It would be cool if theyd make a book series about MGS. Yeh, i know it seems lame and stupid but for the real fans it would be awesome if it would be in chronological order and stuff.
There's a reason why MGS rivals The Legend of Zelda series(my fav game series) in my heart, beautiful game series. *salutes*. @Hibofobi tch, the first two Metal Gears aren't even needed to be played, just know the plot from them which isn't that hard, the MGS are the only ones needed to be played and/or experienced.
@DjKreed Yes, but you can also play as other characters such as Zero, Siginit, Para-Medic, EVA, Ocelot, Raikov, Sokolov, Gene, Null, Cunningham, Elisa/Ursula, Python and GA-KO.
In PO+ You can add these on the game and play as Old Snake, Raiden, Roy Campbell and the enemy solders from MGS 1,2 and 3.
Metal Gear Solid was a one-of-a-kind series. Nothing like COD or Splinter Cell, it was not about the "coolness" or "killing sprees" or anything like that. It was about the characters and the way they had shaped the world and the effect they had on war and what that war had done to the world. It was a series that had deeper gameplay that most action games and a far deeper and complex story than anything that has ever come before it. Nothing will ever amount to the beauty of Metal Gear Solid.
@Satansapocalypse It wasn't about coolness or killing sprees, that was just a little extra feature in their eyes. So, just a little extra feature beats COD's whole combat design.
Well, I simply see Big Boss as his own man. He did his own thing, even though not many people liked it. He fought, and he like the baddass soilder he is, he didn't look back.
Screw that good or bad stuff, Big Boss got class :)
When i hear this song i always think of Big Boss when he begins his mission to build Outer Heaven, i will never forget these games even when i am an old man like snake. :D
Kojama did change his own story (and Big Boss' background).
However, he CREATED Big Boss, so he has license to do that. And I love what he did with the character, personally.
And.... hiphop... seriously NES emulators are tiny. The oldest ones can fit on an 1.44 MB diskette (showing my age here). So really, it's up to you whether you want to try the original game or not.
Okay. Looks like this is getting out of hand. We all have our own opinions about Big Boss and his motifs, and we can argue about them forever if we like. I see him as the greatest hero of all time, while some see him as a tyrant and a maniac. "Opposing interpretations" one could say.
So let's not argue about this matter any more. Let's just enjoy Metal Gear Solid.
When I played the first Metal Gear games (1&2 solid 1 & 2) I though he was a Tyrant... and then I played MGS3, portable Ops and MGS4 and I totally changed my mind! I'm expecting a lot of the new MGS comming up with Big Boss :)
People, EVA explains at MGS4 that both Big Boss AND Zero misinterpretated The Boss' will. Zero sought world domination through the Patriots, so that he could unify everyone under the american power, therefore ending the conflits that, according to The Boss, tore apart families and friendships. Big Boss wanted neverending war because, in his mind, that was the only way to create a world where soldiers would always have a place.
He is a hero. He was always fighting for what he believed was right. He wanted to break free from the Patriots grasp and help people, including other soldiers to so. He didn't want them to be pawns in some struggle, that had nothing to do with them. "His goal was to create an army of free citizens, that answer to no government" Ocelot said that, when explaining his motives to Solid Snake. As for Snake, he was being used by Zero and the Patriots, to kill Big Boss, so he had to fight him.
ok then if a physcotitc person wants to kill everyone he meets and thinks its the right thing to do and fights for his right to do so? yes fighting the patriots was a good thing trying to kill innocent civlians is wrong! i recomend you play the oringal Metal Gears and see Big Boss in his element for your self and then rejudge your diagnoises as 'hero'
I already have played them. He never wanted to kill innocent civilians. Eva explained that when major Zero elevated Big Boss into the status of an idol, he also began spreading rumors about him, and so "the truth behind Big Boss became riddled with exaggeration, misrepresentation and outright lies." In my opinion, Zero continued to spread this incorrect information about him, and that's why we see him as a tyrannical despot in the first two Metal Gears.
what the fuck man?1?!?! you played the games you see what happended threw solid snakes perspective does that mean the snake was hyptoised by Zero??? he wanted a never ending war by nukeing innocent civlians sending the world into chaos! and also to destroy the patriots while he was at it!
Yeah... I don't recall him actually saying he wanted to "nuke innocent civilians". I know he did mention war orphans as part of his plan, but nuking innocents?
Besides, Snake was pretty much a psychopath during the first games (Liquid even told him.), and he doesn't even consider himself a hero (in fact, he has a pessimistic view of himself). In reality, there are no "heroes" in the Metal Gear games.
Now that I think about it, that statement in regards to Big Boss sounds more like the AIs.
he tried to unleash nuclear war upon the world, wanted a never ending war, raised child soilders, tried to kill the REAL hero of all time (Solid Snake) who also happend to be his son! you can go on saying that he trying to fight the patriots! yes well that doesnt excuse HOW he did it evil ways! BIG BOSS IS NO HERO he gave up that right when betrayed FOX-HOUND and set up outer-heaven!
Yeah, the funny thing is, I don't recall Big Boss even saying that he was trying to start a nuclear war in the first two (canonical) games. In fact, MGS4:GotP even had EVA saying that he intended to use Metal Gear as a deterrant from the Patriots from interfering with his dream (which basically means that it's meant to be a defense weapon.). Anyways, didn't The Boss also try to kill Big Boss in the ending of MGS3? Also, I believe it was implied a few times in MGS that Solid Snake was psychotic.
huh i well enjoyed your argument... even if its wrong or clashes with my argument as long as someone can give a well infomed and factual argument over something i respect them alot... the fact of Big Boss is that he was evil but Kojima turned his chacter around in MGS3 by making him a hero and then in MGS4 said "oh well he only did that to fight for freedom and stuff" and everyone goes "eh that makes sense YAAAAY BIG BOSS!!!"
personallly when someone brings up Big Boss i always think of the oringal version but i think to decide weather he is in fact evil or not is up to every person to conclude for them selves... i will always keep my impression of a tyrant in mind for Big Boss
He fought for a proper cause unlike that of any government that just uses soldiers then casts them aside when they have no use for them. Big Boss was a true soldier.
heh... good point.. everyone has there own opnion on these subjects... but i always remaing the first memory i had of Big Boss as it is scared into my mind after playing that game so young lol
was annoying do all this crap... reciveing false infomation over the 'reciver' that sends me into big pitfalls then getting to the end of the game and having this bald guy whos my boss run super fast beat the crap outta me and try to kill me XD
@eddielegenduk Really? Big Boss might have done the right thing every now and then, but ultimately, he along with Zero was responsible for screwing the world over, and he'd spent fourty years as nothing but a heartless war-monger who'd adopt orphaned children and raise them to be killers like him. The whole point of his confession to Snake at the end of MGS4 was about his final realisation.
@eddielegenduk Well, until they started messing with his backstory in Portable Ops and Peace Walker, that is. It's a shame that those two are canon, because I loved the simplicity of having MGS3 as a story of tradegy outlining the fall of a hero, as opposed to a Prison Break-esque conspiracy mess which retcons the story to the point where Big Boss was actually the good guy all along or something stupid like that... That's what happens when Kojima isn't involved. (He joined the PW team later on).
I woudn't say Big Boss was a good guy all along. He and Zero had different interpretations of the type of World The Boss wanted. Which lead them to opposing sides.
I like that Portable Ops and Peace Walker are canon. They are filling in the story of Big Boss making him more than a 1 dimensional character that he was in the original 2 games.
@SkullXII Peace Walker's great, it's true it never outright says Big Boss is bad, but he starts acting a lot more iffy in this one. Considering it's the start of Outer Heaven, it makes sense he'd start to act like Big Boss, and less like Naked Snake. Also, I don't see how MGS3, MPO and PW could all be the story of a tragedy outlining the fall of a hero. They basically just made it longer and more detailed, instead of "Naked Snake = good guy AND THEN Bog Boss = bad guy"
i see your point but i disagree with you there bigboss wasnt bad it even explains in mgs4 eva even explains it bigboss just left to create a place for soldiers who werent going to be cast away like trash hence he created outer heaven but major "tom" didnt like what he was trying to do which is why solid was sent as pawn to go stop bigboss from destroying the patriots system that "tom" created it all began because the boss was set up if that never happened bigboss never would have began outer
-_- Big Boss him self sent Snake into Outer Heaven to try and confuse the west and spread false information however he was better than Boss had expected so he failed =P NOT the patriots.... Kojima changed his own story to give into the demmand of noobs who never played the first METAL GEAR games and didnt understand the truth of Big Boss
i never said the patriots sent snake...... i said bigboss's goal was to free soldiers from the patriot system that tom created and did he really send snake to outer heaven> i cant really remember because metal gear 1 and 2 were sooo long ago tbh i never played em fully but i did read about them
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you see this where the problem comes from peopel don't play the orginal games they read about them and the online wikis etc include the new data from recent games as how it was...
hmmm lemme think? errr the consoles for the two metal gears werent even around anymore by the time i first played mgs1 ........ so how can i play them both
Yes, that's right. I was thinking more about the ENTIRE song when dante1234ever asked when it plays in MGS: PO. But as far as when this song starts playing in the game for the first time, it's during the scene where a mortally wounded Elisa predicts Big Boss'/Naked Snake's future.
not only to get up and sing infront of people but the things that must of been running through her head "did i choose the right song", "am i singing well", "will the people be angry at me"
the song is apropriat for such an occasion. but at an event that has people very emotional she must of been nervous about how people would react
Sorry for your loss, but that sounds awesome. Incredible really. Did you get a recording of her, or can you get a video/recording of her singing it. It really is a great song to sing.
Dude re- the fuck lax, lol the games super fuckin confusing so obviously alot of people are going to be confused, do you not realize how much extra stuff is in the games? not only that but alot of them just havent played the previous metal gear solids, its one of the ways the game was ment to be, so relax man
Yes, Ocelot took on Liquid's perosnality completely. And yes, that is impossible with today's technology. It is also impossible for a single man to infiltrate and take down heavily armed fortresses, single handedly defeat walking death mobiles, run on water, get shot in the head and have your wound heal in seconds, etc.
If Ocelot was using Liquid's personality, then why did he destroy Big Boss's body if he worshiped him so much and betrayed the Patriots he helped create?
no he didn't take control. If you payed attention at the end of MGS4 you'd have heard that ocelots nanomachines made him THINK he's liquid. An arm is an arm. It can't take over a body. Only nanomachines.
and if you paid more attention you'd have seen that in the last fight of snake vs ocelot, the nanomachines stopped working and Ocelot slowly remember everything (at the MGS3 part fight, his healthbar says ocelot and not liquid or anything and at the MGS4 fight it says ocelot again)
well, it was more of Ocelot did that on purpose to fool the Patriots and be undercover, though he was concious the whole time and he knew everything he was doing, otherwise, he would've stopped Snake just like he said he could've at the end
Ocelot was never Liquid in anyway, he only adopted his personality, he purposefully acted like he was losing control in MGS2 to fool the Pariots and convince everyone else he was indeed Liquid
Well, if his "possessed behaviour" in MGS2:SoL was indeed an act, he certainly had advanced acting to replicate a British accent (never mind Liquid's exact voice) and yet keep his russian accent.
Honestly, in MGS2, at least, he actually was possessed by Liquid Snake (or rather, the arm that used to belong to Liquid).
yeah, I know what you mean, but that was retconned; however if they stuck with it, it could simply be explained as nanomachines he used to alter his voice and/or just being that good considering his history as an excellent spy
The quote is From PSP
Final Fantasy 7 Crisis Core
Its good story......made me cry in the end
401robert 1 day ago
Men cry not for them selfs.......
But for their comrades.....
401robert 2 weeks ago 3
@401robert some thing spoken truly
SuperJuggalo247 1 day ago
Metal Gear Solid the only game series that has SOUL.
MagnumBullets47 2 weeks ago
Now THIS!!! is what i call "a good homage"
horaciosi 1 month ago
A marvelous beautiful song
AlexisDaftPunk 2 months ago
I MISS THE BOSS. THIS SONG IS SO BEAUTIFUL AS HER BE...:'x
battlefields2mine 3 months ago
I was psych when they put this song in Brawl
Ayumuobsessed 3 months ago
some of these comments seem like a eulogy
amyrosefan926 3 months ago in playlist Liked videos
It would be cool if theyd make a book series about MGS. Yeh, i know it seems lame and stupid but for the real fans it would be awesome if it would be in chronological order and stuff.
Amorr666 3 months ago
@Amorr666 there are some books by raymond benson m8, mgs1 and 2 :)
Lole220 3 months ago
@Amorr666 I think there is a novelization of MGS1. But I saw it on ebay years ago.
Kefka44 3 weeks ago
We need a game about Solidus in Liberia.
louthegiantcookie 5 months ago
this song reminds me of all the mgs games....damn what a good memory
Rash710 5 months ago
I hate people who said
"Thump up for this video."
Thump up if you'd like to
"thump to this video".
battlefields2mine 6 months ago
I know that it's really really too late to say this, but merry christmas to you too alvaroduck lol
AnIndianNamedJones2 7 months ago 6
There's a reason why MGS rivals The Legend of Zelda series(my fav game series) in my heart, beautiful game series. *salutes*. @Hibofobi tch, the first two Metal Gears aren't even needed to be played, just know the plot from them which isn't that hard, the MGS are the only ones needed to be played and/or experienced.
NeoAnimeKnight 7 months ago
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AnIndianNamedJones2 8 months ago 3
Out all the Big Boss songs, this has to be my most favorite one
MrWTFOMFGROFL 8 months ago
colling tu de naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiiiiiighhhhhhhhhhhhhttttt
thenerdscore 8 months ago
When exactly does this play in thg game?
FlashJordan94 8 months ago
@FlashJordan94 it's the ending theme
Nemomain 8 months ago in playlist metal gear soundtrack
"To be or not to be fighting here..." Is that a Hamlet reference?
Ebb1993isgreat 9 months ago
Love theme for XJ-0 and Jessie Winkler.
TheTinman1996 9 months ago
Isn't this song in super smash brothers brawl? Ya know on snakes stage?
metroid308 10 months ago
@metroid308 Yes, it is in brawl.
TheTinman1996 9 months ago
This song needs to be longer...
I'm going to end up breaking the replay button :I
FALUHSEE 10 months ago
I never played MGS:Portable Ops, was Big Boss who you played as?
DjKreed 11 months ago
@DjKreed Yes, but you can also play as other characters such as Zero, Siginit, Para-Medic, EVA, Ocelot, Raikov, Sokolov, Gene, Null, Cunningham, Elisa/Ursula, Python and GA-KO.
In PO+ You can add these on the game and play as Old Snake, Raiden, Roy Campbell and the enemy solders from MGS 1,2 and 3.
SasoriRenji407 10 months ago
5 people did not like the night
CaRcypher 11 months ago
I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with a tuning fork does a raw blink in hara-kiri rock. I need scissors, 61
Tonimon13 1 year ago
Metal Gear Solid was a one-of-a-kind series. Nothing like COD or Splinter Cell, it was not about the "coolness" or "killing sprees" or anything like that. It was about the characters and the way they had shaped the world and the effect they had on war and what that war had done to the world. It was a series that had deeper gameplay that most action games and a far deeper and complex story than anything that has ever come before it. Nothing will ever amount to the beauty of Metal Gear Solid.
Satansapocalypse 1 year ago 42
@Satansapocalypse
Pure truth here.
And why the hell is this very good comment having so few thumbs up?!
AwesomeTwistedness 4 months ago
@Satansapocalypse Splinter cell was not bad it was a cool series not better then MGS but its nothing like COD.
Xxandrew01 3 months ago
@Satansapocalypse Finally, A True Believer.
5209memo 3 months ago
@Satansapocalypse It wasn't about coolness or killing sprees, that was just a little extra feature in their eyes. So, just a little extra feature beats COD's whole combat design.
UncleSpankification 3 months ago
@Satansapocalypse comments like these make me want to cry, or maybe that's just crying wolf...
tdrockass 1 month ago
this reminds me of porn music, lol
mamaweegee1 1 year ago
@mamaweegee1 0_0?
TheTinman1996 9 months ago
Words can't describe what I feel listening to that!
Detsurasu 1 year ago
big boss is the most amazing character in video game history...there is no second opinion about that...i just wont accept it
MrMalf 1 year ago
@MrMalf I think I prefer Solid Snake as I see more of myself in him
GuestOfGregoryHouse 11 months ago
I cried When this song came on :( </3 BY FAR SNAKE WAS MY HERO AND I CANT BELIEVE METAL GEAR SOLID ENDED :(
Lilpaul97 1 year ago
lol
Clonejk741 1 year ago
everyone who listened to this felt like saluting
The1stPistolSniper 1 year ago 5
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Well, I simply see Big Boss as his own man. He did his own thing, even though not many people liked it. He fought, and he like the baddass soilder he is, he didn't look back.
Screw that good or bad stuff, Big Boss got class :)
Demura145 1 year ago
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Demura145 1 year ago
the best song ever i love it soooo great
besnikalbo 1 year ago
One of the saddest PSP deaths in history. Almost on par with Zack Fair.
JudgeTsukihi 1 year ago
@blood95166 listentoyoutube
alucardv2 1 year ago
1:26 the geth ?so big boss also was also a scperte?that awesome
onsholo 1 year ago
i have peac e walker and thers no end to the missons
warriorkingofswords 1 year ago
this song and mgs are so damn epic but sad too ... i love it @xbox360rubbish at my funeral too !
SMOOTHIEproduction 1 year ago
@SMOOTHIEproduction and also funny
onsholo 1 year ago
alvaroduck your a ledge for your commitment to the mgs soundtrack
martincblue 1 year ago
very good
DAReich1231 1 year ago
beauty
mgsocelot1 1 year ago
this is one of those songs when i hear it i gotta look it up xD so calming and beautiful xD
DarkWater546 2 years ago
Great Song, love it. Prepare for Peace Walker, folks. ;>
SleepyWretch 2 years ago 11
it gives me luck when playing surv
EghoPT 2 years ago
i always use this song when i play metal gear solid 4
youngsj08 2 years ago 4
When i hear this song i always think of Big Boss when he begins his mission to build Outer Heaven, i will never forget these games even when i am an old man like snake. :D
valoandlovesaidno666 2 years ago 2
@valoandlovesaidno666 and by old you mean 40 years old XD
Nodfollower 1 year ago
Beautiful
booba77izzy 2 years ago 5
Kojama did change his own story (and Big Boss' background).
However, he CREATED Big Boss, so he has license to do that. And I love what he did with the character, personally.
And.... hiphop... seriously NES emulators are tiny. The oldest ones can fit on an 1.44 MB diskette (showing my age here). So really, it's up to you whether you want to try the original game or not.
Peace ^^
TriniKnight01 2 years ago 4
hold on a minute, youll be needing an MSX2 emulator, thats what the first two metal gears were on..
the NES version of Metal Gear was terrible compared, and the NES sequel 'Snakes Revenge' was made without Kojima and as such is not canon. =]
BlinJe 2 years ago
i luv this song 5 stars ^_^
youngace337 2 years ago 3
MGS Series & Kojima = Win win win !!!
Msaud95 2 years ago 3
MGS music is so awesome beautiful "tear"
Yaoifangirl1990 2 years ago 4
Okay. Looks like this is getting out of hand. We all have our own opinions about Big Boss and his motifs, and we can argue about them forever if we like. I see him as the greatest hero of all time, while some see him as a tyrant and a maniac. "Opposing interpretations" one could say.
So let's not argue about this matter any more. Let's just enjoy Metal Gear Solid.
Xripulipaska 2 years ago 3
When I played the first Metal Gear games (1&2 solid 1 & 2) I though he was a Tyrant... and then I played MGS3, portable Ops and MGS4 and I totally changed my mind! I'm expecting a lot of the new MGS comming up with Big Boss :)
Diorm 2 years ago 2
I agree, it's all about perception. I think Big Boss is just epic, and the new PSP game is with Big Boss :D
GeekyHan714 2 years ago 4
Yes..in MG Saga there aren't true bad guys or true good guys...like in reality...what change are motivations
UomoCheSapevaTroppo 2 years ago
People, EVA explains at MGS4 that both Big Boss AND Zero misinterpretated The Boss' will. Zero sought world domination through the Patriots, so that he could unify everyone under the american power, therefore ending the conflits that, according to The Boss, tore apart families and friendships. Big Boss wanted neverending war because, in his mind, that was the only way to create a world where soldiers would always have a place.
MisterDeeds 2 years ago
Awesome song
MarshDanni21 2 years ago
He is a hero. He was always fighting for what he believed was right. He wanted to break free from the Patriots grasp and help people, including other soldiers to so. He didn't want them to be pawns in some struggle, that had nothing to do with them. "His goal was to create an army of free citizens, that answer to no government" Ocelot said that, when explaining his motives to Solid Snake. As for Snake, he was being used by Zero and the Patriots, to kill Big Boss, so he had to fight him.
Xripulipaska 2 years ago 3
ok then if a physcotitc person wants to kill everyone he meets and thinks its the right thing to do and fights for his right to do so? yes fighting the patriots was a good thing trying to kill innocent civlians is wrong! i recomend you play the oringal Metal Gears and see Big Boss in his element for your self and then rejudge your diagnoises as 'hero'
thebaconboy 2 years ago
I already have played them. He never wanted to kill innocent civilians. Eva explained that when major Zero elevated Big Boss into the status of an idol, he also began spreading rumors about him, and so "the truth behind Big Boss became riddled with exaggeration, misrepresentation and outright lies." In my opinion, Zero continued to spread this incorrect information about him, and that's why we see him as a tyrannical despot in the first two Metal Gears.
Xripulipaska 2 years ago 2
what the fuck man?1?!?! you played the games you see what happended threw solid snakes perspective does that mean the snake was hyptoised by Zero??? he wanted a never ending war by nukeing innocent civlians sending the world into chaos! and also to destroy the patriots while he was at it!
thebaconboy 2 years ago
Yeah... I don't recall him actually saying he wanted to "nuke innocent civilians". I know he did mention war orphans as part of his plan, but nuking innocents?
Besides, Snake was pretty much a psychopath during the first games (Liquid even told him.), and he doesn't even consider himself a hero (in fact, he has a pessimistic view of himself). In reality, there are no "heroes" in the Metal Gear games.
Now that I think about it, that statement in regards to Big Boss sounds more like the AIs.
Pokeria1 2 years ago
damn i love this song..
HaseoTTD 2 years ago
I was wondering when was the first MGS game this song showed up in?
zoso279 2 years ago
Can't you tell!? Look at the title: 'MGS: Portable Ops Soundtrack'.
ohyesbenny 2 years ago
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zoso279 2 years ago
Big Boss; the greatest Hero of all time!
Xripulipaska 2 years ago 2
NO HES NOT FFS!
he tried to unleash nuclear war upon the world, wanted a never ending war, raised child soilders, tried to kill the REAL hero of all time (Solid Snake) who also happend to be his son! you can go on saying that he trying to fight the patriots! yes well that doesnt excuse HOW he did it evil ways! BIG BOSS IS NO HERO he gave up that right when betrayed FOX-HOUND and set up outer-heaven!
thebaconboy 2 years ago
Sorry pal. He is a hero.
Xripulipaska 2 years ago 3
Yeah, the funny thing is, I don't recall Big Boss even saying that he was trying to start a nuclear war in the first two (canonical) games. In fact, MGS4:GotP even had EVA saying that he intended to use Metal Gear as a deterrant from the Patriots from interfering with his dream (which basically means that it's meant to be a defense weapon.). Anyways, didn't The Boss also try to kill Big Boss in the ending of MGS3? Also, I believe it was implied a few times in MGS that Solid Snake was psychotic.
Pokeria1 2 years ago 3
huh i well enjoyed your argument... even if its wrong or clashes with my argument as long as someone can give a well infomed and factual argument over something i respect them alot... the fact of Big Boss is that he was evil but Kojima turned his chacter around in MGS3 by making him a hero and then in MGS4 said "oh well he only did that to fight for freedom and stuff" and everyone goes "eh that makes sense YAAAAY BIG BOSS!!!"
thebaconboy 2 years ago 3
personallly when someone brings up Big Boss i always think of the oringal version but i think to decide weather he is in fact evil or not is up to every person to conclude for them selves... i will always keep my impression of a tyrant in mind for Big Boss
thebaconboy 2 years ago
I see Big Boss as a patriot without a nation.
He fought for a proper cause unlike that of any government that just uses soldiers then casts them aside when they have no use for them. Big Boss was a true soldier.
eddielegenduk 2 years ago 68
Correct!
Xripulipaska 2 years ago
heh... good point.. everyone has there own opnion on these subjects... but i always remaing the first memory i had of Big Boss as it is scared into my mind after playing that game so young lol
was annoying do all this crap... reciveing false infomation over the 'reciver' that sends me into big pitfalls then getting to the end of the game and having this bald guy whos my boss run super fast beat the crap outta me and try to kill me XD
thebaconboy 2 years ago
@eddielegenduk Really? Big Boss might have done the right thing every now and then, but ultimately, he along with Zero was responsible for screwing the world over, and he'd spent fourty years as nothing but a heartless war-monger who'd adopt orphaned children and raise them to be killers like him. The whole point of his confession to Snake at the end of MGS4 was about his final realisation.
SkullXII 1 year ago
@eddielegenduk Well, until they started messing with his backstory in Portable Ops and Peace Walker, that is. It's a shame that those two are canon, because I loved the simplicity of having MGS3 as a story of tradegy outlining the fall of a hero, as opposed to a Prison Break-esque conspiracy mess which retcons the story to the point where Big Boss was actually the good guy all along or something stupid like that... That's what happens when Kojima isn't involved. (He joined the PW team later on).
SkullXII 1 year ago
@SkullXII
I woudn't say Big Boss was a good guy all along. He and Zero had different interpretations of the type of World The Boss wanted. Which lead them to opposing sides.
I like that Portable Ops and Peace Walker are canon. They are filling in the story of Big Boss making him more than a 1 dimensional character that he was in the original 2 games.
snake2006 1 year ago
@SkullXII Peace Walker's great, it's true it never outright says Big Boss is bad, but he starts acting a lot more iffy in this one. Considering it's the start of Outer Heaven, it makes sense he'd start to act like Big Boss, and less like Naked Snake. Also, I don't see how MGS3, MPO and PW could all be the story of a tragedy outlining the fall of a hero. They basically just made it longer and more detailed, instead of "Naked Snake = good guy AND THEN Bog Boss = bad guy"
TheToast7 1 year ago
@eddielegenduk An Old Dog of War.
KrayzieBuddha 9 months ago
i see your point but i disagree with you there bigboss wasnt bad it even explains in mgs4 eva even explains it bigboss just left to create a place for soldiers who werent going to be cast away like trash hence he created outer heaven but major "tom" didnt like what he was trying to do which is why solid was sent as pawn to go stop bigboss from destroying the patriots system that "tom" created it all began because the boss was set up if that never happened bigboss never would have began outer
hiphopsavedmylyfe 2 years ago 2
-_- Big Boss him self sent Snake into Outer Heaven to try and confuse the west and spread false information however he was better than Boss had expected so he failed =P NOT the patriots.... Kojima changed his own story to give into the demmand of noobs who never played the first METAL GEAR games and didnt understand the truth of Big Boss
thebaconboy 2 years ago
i never said the patriots sent snake...... i said bigboss's goal was to free soldiers from the patriot system that tom created and did he really send snake to outer heaven> i cant really remember because metal gear 1 and 2 were sooo long ago tbh i never played em fully but i did read about them
hiphopsavedmylyfe 2 years ago
Yes, Big Boss was Snake's commander and was waiting for him within Out Heaven.
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drewcaine 2 years ago
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you see this where the problem comes from peopel don't play the orginal games they read about them and the online wikis etc include the new data from recent games as how it was...
thebaconboy 2 years ago
well baconboy im fucking sorry i didnt play the original first 2 metal gears because i wasnt FUCKING BORN
hiphopsavedmylyfe 2 years ago 40
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i accept your apology but question why you didnt start playing later in life? ¬_¬
thebaconboy 2 years ago
hmmm lemme think? errr the consoles for the two metal gears werent even around anymore by the time i first played mgs1 ........ so how can i play them both
hiphopsavedmylyfe 2 years ago
MGS:3 Subsistence had both of them!
johnseanson 2 years ago 4
i didnt have subsistence i had the original i never ever bought the extra versions of any metal gear because i didnt feel there was any need
hiphopsavedmylyfe 2 years ago 7
Emulators?
thebaconboy 2 years ago
nah i hate the amount of space emulators take up on my pc i try to keep the data storage as small as possible to avoid my pc from becoming slower
hiphopsavedmylyfe 2 years ago 3
download them on emulator
ryancrows07 2 years ago
Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake? Yea, I really want to play those too but I can't. =( Kojima should remake them for ps3 or ps2
krustyismyname7 2 years ago 5
so you like MGS?
tigera27 2 years ago 4
MSX2 emulator.. MG-2 solid snake is unmissable
BlinJe 2 years ago
@krustyismyname7
They were remade in MGS3: Subsistence
nathan19285 2 years ago
And the first 2 MG games aren't on MGS3: Subsistence either? There ya go, no excuse now :)
DanteForever20XX 1 year ago
@hiphopsavedmylyfe You know you still can play them... I mean you don't have to be born in the start of the big bang... Right? Right! I'm Right!
(But Left handed)
Hibofobi 7 months ago
@hiphopsavedmylyfe Well then it sucks to be you lol
shelta11 6 months ago in playlist Music
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Well I'm happy to be sucker who want to belong with BIG BOSS. LOL
XD
battlefields2mine 6 months ago
@hiphopsavedmylyfe Why don't you use an emulator? =}?
Ultimatevegeta1 4 months ago
@hiphopsavedmylyfe
If you buy MGS3: Subsistance both 'original' metal gear games are packaged on it.
headache42 4 months ago
Amen!
robinpimpin190 2 years ago
this song is stuck in my head i played to much mgo and mgs4 with this song -_-
calling to the night!
chabab 2 years ago
this epic on mgo :'(
grayfox022 2 years ago 2
I always play this song on the iPod in the Middle East in MGS4, with the bullets whizzing past by and the explosions going off right next to Snake.
BiGRiCeD 2 years ago 6
As do I...
Xripulipaska 2 years ago
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zoso279 2 years ago
thanks for posting this. such a beautiful song. :-)
SteinerZi 3 years ago 2
Thank you for posting this; it made me decide to buy the CD for this one song.
I wish they had soundtracks like this for Ye Olde games, it'd make my job a whole lot easier.
ErrorProne 3 years ago
when this song appear in mgspo?? cause when i start the disk it didnt
dante1234ever 3 years ago
Beat the game.
DJSedSo 3 years ago
When Elissa Dies as well.
bigsmoke22 2 years ago
Yes, that's right. I was thinking more about the ENTIRE song when dante1234ever asked when it plays in MGS: PO. But as far as when this song starts playing in the game for the first time, it's during the scene where a mortally wounded Elisa predicts Big Boss'/Naked Snake's future.
DJSedSo 2 years ago 3
who is singing this song?
Dusntman 3 years ago
Natasha Farrow
DJSedSo 3 years ago
Heh, this song describes Big Boss all too well and what he fights for. Not for the nation,but for the ideals.
alpha196gamma1 3 years ago 6
Great song when in a battle
Snake123456987 3 years ago 4
i want this played at my funeral.
xbox360rubbish 3 years ago 40
its funny that you say that because, my sister sang this at my older brothers funeral which was last week
Starwors123456 3 years ago 8
That's too bad, sorry for your loss
drloboto 3 years ago 10
she must be pretty brave to do that.
not only to get up and sing infront of people but the things that must of been running through her head "did i choose the right song", "am i singing well", "will the people be angry at me"
the song is apropriat for such an occasion. but at an event that has people very emotional she must of been nervous about how people would react
bendle34 3 years ago
yeah she was. But it really matched because my older bro was a cop
Starwors123456 3 years ago
Sorry for your loss, but that sounds awesome. Incredible really. Did you get a recording of her, or can you get a video/recording of her singing it. It really is a great song to sing.
Momentum139 2 years ago 2
i love this theme
superAmaster 3 years ago 8
wow, i can get lost in this song!
sm2142 3 years ago 4
Love this osng from iPod in MGS4 :))))
UncleViscera 3 years ago
It's sad, in a way.
Two brothers fighting over Dad.
Guanali01 3 years ago 6
Does anyone know how you get this song in SSBB?
najhoant 3 years ago 2
My fav and the best MGS song
Starwors123456 3 years ago 3
WHo is singing?
sax4paola 3 years ago
Natasha Farrow
oOEmpoleonOo 3 years ago
Just EPIC!!!
nuff said.
Arindom89 3 years ago 4
This is likely supposed to be like Celine Dion's My Heart Will Go On song. Another Titanic reference.
Funktasmic 3 years ago
this song is awesome dude!
i play it all time time on my mgs4 ipod.
DREBIN RULES!
landenundertakerfan 3 years ago
Lol thats exactly what I do =D Yay! *Hi 5*
oOEmpoleonOo 3 years ago
YEAH! Go Drebins Monkey, Whatever its name is! Maybe its just called monkey! =)
Virtual high five dude!
landenundertakerfan 3 years ago
It's name is little gray.
kklol7 3 years ago
To be honest, Solid Snake is my favourite character out of all of them, even if he is a clone of Big Boss, Solid Snake is epic :)
TrueSin12 3 years ago 2
READ THE METAL GEAR SOLID DATABASE.
You guys are making the most stupid comments.
Ocelot was never possesd, never had a mechanical arm or was ever anything but himself.
He used psychotherapy and nanomachines to appears like Liquid.
He did not take on his personality as that is impossible.
aljeeves 3 years ago
Dude re- the fuck lax, lol the games super fuckin confusing so obviously alot of people are going to be confused, do you not realize how much extra stuff is in the games? not only that but alot of them just havent played the previous metal gear solids, its one of the ways the game was ment to be, so relax man
TrueSin12 3 years ago
Yes, Ocelot took on Liquid's perosnality completely. And yes, that is impossible with today's technology. It is also impossible for a single man to infiltrate and take down heavily armed fortresses, single handedly defeat walking death mobiles, run on water, get shot in the head and have your wound heal in seconds, etc.
mhesi 3 years ago 4
**SPOILERS**
If Ocelot was using Liquid's personality, then why did he destroy Big Boss's body if he worshiped him so much and betrayed the Patriots he helped create?
Unitronus 3 years ago 2
liquid actualy took control over oceleot becuz ocelots hand yea i know thats a pretty blunt answer esp for mgs but play mgs4 and you will see
ATFGOONSQUAD08 3 years ago
exactly
CaptainDwight666 3 years ago
no he didn't take control. If you payed attention at the end of MGS4 you'd have heard that ocelots nanomachines made him THINK he's liquid. An arm is an arm. It can't take over a body. Only nanomachines.
and if you paid more attention you'd have seen that in the last fight of snake vs ocelot, the nanomachines stopped working and Ocelot slowly remember everything (at the MGS3 part fight, his healthbar says ocelot and not liquid or anything and at the MGS4 fight it says ocelot again)
End.
stormpikes1 3 years ago 2
this was aimed at
ATFGOONSQUAD08
stormpikes1 3 years ago
well, it was more of Ocelot did that on purpose to fool the Patriots and be undercover, though he was concious the whole time and he knew everything he was doing, otherwise, he would've stopped Snake just like he said he could've at the end
Ocelot was never Liquid in anyway, he only adopted his personality, he purposefully acted like he was losing control in MGS2 to fool the Pariots and convince everyone else he was indeed Liquid
lordraven9 3 years ago
Well, if his "possessed behaviour" in MGS2:SoL was indeed an act, he certainly had advanced acting to replicate a British accent (never mind Liquid's exact voice) and yet keep his russian accent.
Honestly, in MGS2, at least, he actually was possessed by Liquid Snake (or rather, the arm that used to belong to Liquid).
Pokeria1 2 years ago
yeah, I know what you mean, but that was retconned; however if they stuck with it, it could simply be explained as nanomachines he used to alter his voice and/or just being that good considering his history as an excellent spy
lordraven9 2 years ago
WHAT SHE SAID
ATFGOONSQUAD08 3 years ago