Web 2.0...We Respond To We/sch

[WackoBobby]

Nice, but flawed, interpretation of the original video.

Kudos given to actually having put some thought into your reply.

Alas, in Wesch's original video, the focus was not on the contrast of digital and physical mediums, but rather, the hypertext nature of digital mediums.

With a book, you are literally limited to whats on the paper. You can go forward, or backwards. Up, and down (while reading). No more, no less.

It is no more multilinear than a choose your own adventure book.

[bunkmag]

I find it interesting that viewers of this film feel compelled to police the meanings that the film generates.(not meant as a flame, just an observation.) But on your point about multilinearity - haven't you had the experience when you are browsing a web site and can't get to a page you'd like to get to within the site because there is just no link? If it had been a book, you could flip to it. I just don't think Wesch is overlooking the affordances of varying media forms.See his other videos.

[Crackferret]

Furthermore as previously stated, the video was not hinging on that argument, but goes on to talk about the evolution of WEB 2.0 and not on the difference between written text and digital text.

[bunkmag]

It strikes me again that such a reading seeks to limit Wesch's video to one meaning, something we might do with a straight-forward essay. What my video attempts to tease out are the layers of Wesch's piece, which by its use of special editing techniques, montage, and play in general opens itself up to multiple readings.

[Crackferret]

The only reason his text on paper seems to be Multilinear is the fact that its sped up and edited, if it was not, it would take so much more time, and not be as clear, and eventually would not even exist (the paper would get cluttered and the text wouldnt be clear) Digital text however is Multilinear not due to where you can type but due to its flexibility.

[bunkmag]

There are multiple ways that text can be multilinear. As I type my response, I wish I could move the cursor the words to places on the screen that this "text box" will not permit. All the arguments about using light pens or input tablets do not change the limitations of the particular interface he choose for this segment.

[cdoep]

What you are picking on is true but, the original video isn't so much about where you can write but rather the way people can make connections between data. Almost as if us humans are more and more taking up the part of a brain cell.Connected to each other by the web. Thus possibly creating a new form conciousness. So not really about where he writes on a bit of paper.

[thelegendarypaki]

yea what you are picking on has really nothing to do with the purpose of the orignal video. And as for flexibility with pen and paper. we have already accomplished that with tablet platform. And I can comment on your video thanks to web 2.0!

[Swimace]

I understand your response but what you are picking up on is not the point of the original video?

[AZNman1111]

o no hes limited by the cursor.

[No0BsTel]

okay... a bit odd... but thats ok

[allaboutpheak123]

He's limiting his own possibilities to show the public the effiency of digital text. As it says: Digital text is more flexible, moveable, above all.

The Internet, the Web 2.0, the digital text, the computer is simplicity. Castitatis simplex.

[bunkmag]

I am glad you are a supporter of technological progress; however, your response seems to stress "progress" over media-specific differences. Arguing which is "better" is a trap. For example, I could not receive your message without computers, yet the paper I write on has never crashed, erasing all my markings.

[007Outlaw007]

Yes, paper can at many times crash and have all markings erased. Writing letters can get lost throughout the process of mailing them at the post office, and it takes much longer for delivery when compared to electronic mail nowadays refered to as email. Moreover, post office mail is more susceptible to inspection, interseption, and theft.

[007Outlaw007]

Yes, paper can at many times crash and have all markings erased. Writing letters can get lost throughout the process of mailing them at the post office, and it takes much longer for delivery when compared to electronic mail nowadays refered to as email. Moreover, post office mail is more susceptible to inspection, interseption, and theft.

[007Outlaw007]

oops...!LOL!

[Feldoln666]

I am sorry, but the original point remains valid. this video is not entirely correct. The text can actually be anywhere on the screen. But msword/notepad etc is supposed to be linear. computers do almost everything a human can do, but better. this is fact.

The point you made about the pencil is wrong. digital text is still implemented as better in many ways. Yes, the pencil is very flexible. so is digital text.

[ngjimmy]

I love the twist at the end... the big point of the pencil

[Solar257]

Microsoft OneNote + Tablet PC = Your pencil as a stylus + digital text

[Dulcinea1982]

interesting. i liked it

[bunkmag]

The point is: there are multiple points. From what I see, he's not just celebrating new technologies. He's exploring change. What do you think the point is?

[RawRockJustin]

This commment is very intriguing to me. You have to admit, though. That video was a bit thought provoking. Come to think of it, so is this one. haha. :D

[pipervix]

Doesn't this rather miss the point?

[bunkmag]

Thanks, Hannibalector, my comments reflect my sense of the possibilities for meaning within this rich video. Cory, I agree. Wesch's piece expresses a sense of development but also various moments of ambivalence at the limitations and what is lost in the new media. It's hardly the total endorsement that his music "There's Nothing Impossible" might suggest. "Possibility" grows from having many media options, many ways of using them, and many perspectives on their value.

[CoryTheRaven]

Nice call on the flexibility of pencil and paper over computers... That's why I still do my illustrations that way rather than on computer. I couldn't draw with a mouse to save my life, and a light pen defeats the purpose of using the computer in the first place ^_^

[Hannibalector]

Although "Web 2.0 The machine is us/ing us" is a great video, your absolutely right! nice video