Tucker Carlson vs David Brock

[dowder6]

David Brock is a little weasel and his organization is filth

[Sonicisbadazz]

I don't believe, as Tucker says, that President Clinton "not taking terrorism seriously" is something undisputed. There are people close to the situation that have said things that suggest he was going after Bin Laden at points. That said, Brock isn't doing a good job justifying this. Arguing because some people were not at a meeting depicted in a docudrama or that someone didn't slam down a phone is way too nitpicky. As for Madeline Albright calling Pakistan...yeah, that IS defamation.

[thefireplaceofpd]

this brock idiot needs to take his whiney little vagina back to his mommys basement where he belongs...Media matters disses on Glenn Beck and FOX trying to make them look bad but they cant because FOX reports on facts. This moron is a living example of the worst in America. brock...if you hate America so much, move to France....dillhole

[EeeScape]

@thefireplaceofpd

We don't hate America. We hate ignorant US citizens with 3rd grade educations who are gullible enough to believe Fox's half-truths.

Fox's lies are being exposed every month and Beck has been discredited time and time again. So much so even Rupert Murdoch let his contract expire because Beck's loony BS is making Fox lose credibility. Of couse since Murdoch only cares about money, he'll cut his loses with Beck. So he's out!

[phillskiss]

@EeeScape name one...

[EeeScape]

@phillskiss

The depth and analysis required to go through each and everyone of Foxs' distortions since 1996 would be exhaustive. It would require a knowledge of framing a storyline, leaving out other possibilities, never clamming absolute certainty (plausible deniability), in order to plant doubt in the viewers mind. The linguistics and origin must be known prior to viewing any particular programing since you will be ill-equipped to decipher what is said, and what is left out.

[phillskiss]

@EeeScape not sure about you, but I have a masters degree in business and have owned 6 sucessful businesses throughout my life. so you are basing your "ignorant" opinion on?... and the ironic thing is even those "ignorant , citizens with 3rd grade educations" have common sense. what makes you better than them? also..another PS. Beck was begged to stay on. He moved on to do more than just talk. He is going to clear out all the BS. he went out #3 on the #1 most watched political channel.

[EeeScape]

@phillskiss

First of all, your business degree is what makes you narrow minded. CNBC and Fox business watchers such as yourself, made anointed themselves religious experts after 911. If all you know is business and "making money" then of course you'ld fail to see the rest of the picture since it would be those things that you can't care much about. It would be like going to a monk for advice on mutual funds.

[EeeScape]

@phillskiss

There's also a phenomenon within politics that creates a narrative that if you label something "conservative" or "liberal" it can define the person, place or thing you are referring to. This is the first mistake that business class, such as yourself make. You think: Well, as long as I'm making money we can define that as good or conservatie without taking into account any aspect of fraud or disinformation, which may or may not be used to increase perception of ones company stock.

[LibertyInProgressNOW]

@thefireplaceofpd Fox doesn't know anything about facts... Fox is where facts go to die and rot in hell.

[phillskiss]

@LibertyInProgressNOW and you are basing that on.....? I watch mslsd just as much as if not more than fox and if you choose to believe the propaganda that is msnbc..have at it. I am WAY too smart to be brainwashed. you name 1 fact that they lied about and I will get you documentation to prove you wrong. guarantee it. Media matters is the biggest brainwashing anti American format you can find. all they do is trash talk fox and beck. Thats fair and balanced...

[EeeScape]

@phillskiss " I am WAY too smart to be brainwashed."

And that's your first mistake. No person is above doing evil or being mislead. That's your first lesson. You might have missed that in your business classes. Might want to read up on ethics and philosophy.

[EeeScape]

@phillskiss Again, it's not anti-American. It's anti-ignorant American. There's a difference between a old disenfranchised homeless person living on the streets vs. a young business exec who goes around bragging how smart and great they are to those less fortunate than he. This is what happen you have mix conservative economics but leave out the conservate moral codes that religion teaches. It was this particular group of Reagan-era movement that created this type of thinking.

[naburba]

Tucker Carlson. What a jackass.

[ScotchTreat]

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[IntelligentCreature]

if the film says that iraq attack was the root of 9/11, that is rewriting history.

Defamation yes if it is passed as truth, based on true events.

ps...Osama is dead former Pakistan Prime Minister Bhutto died because she was letting the people know that...

no Osama...they need someone new to blame...

...ABC is very well known to have misinformation...its common knowledge by now...

i still need to do more research on this Brock guy though....

[TejanoChimbo]

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► Fictional roles should be assigned to fictional characters, with the customary disclaimer

[klrdotorg]

There sure is alot of whining and name calling about Tucker and Brock, but the debate was about the movie/docu-drama. I don't blame Clinton for 911, but I thought the movie was worth watching and I hope people don't forget what our enemies would do to hurt this country or our allies. I'm glad that those who wanted to prevent the movie from being aired - failed.

[thunderflash82]

oh no, he didn't slam down the phone! censor the movie. it's blasphemy!

[crazytvfan815]

Tucker lies SO many times in this thing, it's sick. The Sudanese government DIDN'T try and give up Osama, some guy from Sudan did, and he was a liar. Clinton had a HUGE plan to take out Osama, he gave it to Bush, and Bush ignored it.

[GstateBALLER925]

very true. unfortunately people get the wrong story from the right wingers who make shit up and they blame it all on the clintons. very cowardly on the bush administrations part (no surprise)

[phillskiss]

@GstateBALLER925 make shit up?..ya sure bout that?

watch?v=63siCHvuGFg

[Krunch89]

It's crazy how many lies Tucker manages to cram into this interview. Just after this segment the news broke that Scholastic dropped the educational materials because of the inaccuracies that Brock referred to. I love the crazy, knee-jerk arguments Tucker used--we did find WMDs, but not enough to justify a war? Tucker hates Brock personally due to their shared past in the conservative media, and several stories Brock told about Tucker in his book "Blinded by the Right."

[BAYYtalibanGOhard]

ohh wmds were found huh tucker? where are they now? hidden in a bunker at area 51? shut the fuck up.

[seans10]

21, huh? I'd never have guessed.

[BAYYtalibanGOhard]

at least i have the right age on my profile idiot.

[seans10]

I just called you immature and you counter by pointing out that I don't have my actual age on my profile, a point you punctuate with "idiot"? Guess my age.

[BAYYtalibanGOhard]

how is anything i said immature... the obvious point im making is that wmds WERE NOT found... what dont you get about that? or have you been living on another planet to know that what tucker is saying is a bold face lie? but im the immature one for pointing out the obvious and adding a lil joke too. i guess tightwad neocons cant find a sense of humor since their reign of power in office deteriorating. and i dont care how old you are... your obviously not wise beyond your years.

[MarsFalls]

Does David Brock remind anyone of that Will Forte character he used to do on Weekend Update, with the notecards?

[outkid]

David Brock = Censor and historical revisionist.

He makes liberals and Democrats look bad. Most of them are not on board with this this censorship and historical revisionism.

[outkid]

The path to 911 is not only anti-Clinton; it is anti-bush, so I don't see a problem. It is a docudrama but Brock distorts the fact.

We know the Clintons own Brock. Hillary admitted to helping create media matters.

[chamilt6]

So there is nothing wrong with depicting false information which misleads the public.

[outkid]

You can't just tell me it's wrong. You have to tell my why you think it is wrong.

I know the Clintons and Bushes ignored our national security by leaving the borders wide open.

[chamilt6]

I personal don't think its right to misrepresent things in order to get the point across. If its true as I am sure it is that Clinton had a role to play as well, than the facts should speak for themself. No need do to add anything to the story. I personally hate exaggerations.

[outkid]

What was misrepresented the Clinton and Bush administration are certifiably incompetent and they blew it.

[getbonus]

they aren't incompetent, they're evil. they know exactly what they're doing, and they are highly competent in achieving their true aims. likewise, they are quite adept at using incompetence as a cover.

[VVendettaz]

Hold on...doesnt liberalism stand for free speech!! Ye these people wanted to censor a movie

This is just plain wrong, no matter how its rolled. Our liberty which includes free speech is paramount for freedom. Do not buy in to this rubbish.

[DAVIDANDHIM]

david brock is my name

[BAYYtalibanGOhard]

david brock pwns tucker's squared bowtie ass.

all tucker does is attack him and interrupt what hes saying. its also pretty interesting that this douche is an editor for the weekly standard which brit hume is a part of. fuckin neo-cons.

[GeneralOlde]

I wonder how many people on this site who vote Republican actually know who David Brock is or about his history as a right wing hit man prior to becoming a liberal?

Luckily, David Brock can easily identify right wing bullshit.

[outkid]

It is beyond despite that the Clintons and the Buhes dropped the ball on securing our borders from terrorism. They were asleep at the helm and in many ways still are. There is nothing untrue about the core message of the Path to 911.

[seans10]

Michael Scheuer who headed the CIA's Bin Laden Unit during the Clinton years is much harsher on Bill than that movie ever was. I voted for Clinton, and I will vote for his wife, but they need to take a little more responsibility for 9/11 than they have up to now. And how come no one on the left gives a shit about Sandy Berger's theft and destruction of 9/11-related documents?

[Pyrethryn]

Where is Tucker's bowtie?

[centerrightpunk]

"integral to 9/11" and "responded to 9/11", after tucker pointed that out, no rebuttal. so i guess those are basically the same? haha.

[ChampionofLiberty]

""integral to 9/11" and "responded to 9/11", after tucker pointed that out, no rebuttal. so i guess those are basically the same? haha."

Lol, yeah, I noticed that too. Then you have the typical e-democrats who come here flooding this place with how much they despise Tucker...saying he's full of shit without substantiating their claims, etc.. lmao.

[centerrightpunk]

haha, you can beat on tucker all you want, he exposed this guy as a joke.

[kaleidoscopegang]

Tucker whines too much... the thing I hate most when watching interviews is when someone doesnt give THE GUEST a chance to talk. Also, I find it more annoying when the commentator and interruptor is some devil robot child of Bill O'Reilly...

[tman418]

I wish David Brock would be a little more energetic. While liberals should not use the same tactics as conservatives, they need to perform with the same charisma and demogoguery. And the "WMDs" that were found in Iraq were degraded beyond the capabilities of using them.

[kingsbridge77]

Tucker folded when Brock pointed out that when ABC tried to air misinformation about Reagan, it pulled it out but now it's not pulling out false material about Democrats.

Brock won this debate hands down. Tucker also falsely claimed that Bush responded to 9-11 with invading Iraq, but that Iraq had no link to 9-11. LMAO! Then how do you explain the response? What an idiot.

Great job Brock.

[StoogeWatcher]

Wasn't it CBS who tried to smear Reagan?

[azelsyklone]

What are you talking about Febthirteen2006? State sponsored would mean that government tax dollars paid for a commercial free broadcast (like a PBS broadcast). This film was aired WITH COMMERCIALS. The companies that provided the commercials would be the sponsors. How was it state sponsored?

[Febthirteen2006]

I wanted to boycott the sponsors, you know, like Bill Oreilly does, only problem, this movie was State sponsored propaganda, no sponsors to boycott

[StoogeWatcher]

Media Matters is a left-wing site that wants media control similar to Cuba: Completely left-wing. Plus, the fascist DumboKKKrats at MediaMatters apparently can't read disclaimers that say "Some scenes fictionalized for dramatic effect."

[GeneralOlde]

Look who's calling who a fascist.

Republicans despise Media Matters because it actually prints FACTS.

[StoogeWatcher]

Media Matters wouldn't know the first thing about facts. They defend Dan Rather's fake documents and Newsweek's Koran desecration hoax. They supported Crystal Mangum's rape hoax. They hate Rush Limbaugh because he dared mention the fact that Jesse Macbeth is a phony. MediaMatters is founded by a convicted insider trader and funded with illegal Chinese donations.

[outkid]

Media Matters infringes on copy right laws. I'm no Republican, but I know censorship when I see it.

[ErnestAnastasio]

I used to have a little respect for Tucker, but it is now completely gone. What a little stubborn piece of shit. "History is important". If it is so important, why does he defend a "docu-drama" that intentionally and undeniably misleads the viewers on Clinton's actions just like Bush misled us into this war? We all know damn well that there are some idiots that will take this movie as fact.

[Acelib]

I think Tucker Carlson is Zuahilie for "Silly Clown".

[HerzogD]

It is amazing how Tucker can talk out of both sides of his mouth. How can he with a straight face argue that its important to tell history with this movie and that this movie isn't supposed to be entirely based on facts?

[Morrinn3]

I always get the urge to strangle Tucker when I watch him ramble like the little spoilt cocksucker he is.

[DixonB]

One has to give Tucker an enormous amount of credit - for an individual as pathetic and dislikeable as he to do so well for himself is a real achievement.

[Winston79]

Tucker nailed him! And wasn't Sandy Berger caught with stolen federal documents in his underpants? Too bad it wasn't known soon enough to include in the docudrama.

[kyfriedchicken]

Hard to watch, Tucker gets pretty desperate at the end. Brock really takes him to school. If you know Brock's history, you can understand why Tucker would harbor such a deep resentment for him.

[fukbush21]

i loved him on dancing with the stars!  what moves!! tool

[Darkfranchise]

The only reason Tucker Carlson is on TV is beacuse everyone hates him so much.

[simonesimone2]

tucker go home! get a job!

[hkongfan]

when political debate is diminished into name-calling and yelling at each other it's tragic. the audiences enjoy such sensation while the elites go on to raise another war without others knowing.

[InsideDope]

Tell them the truth and they'll think it's hell

[convolved]

He defends people who lie about 911? He quotes the New York Post? This guy is a huge moron. Now I want to see the video of Jon Stewart handing this bortie moron his ass. Pathetic! Nobody can argue with Media Matters because they post people's own words and print facts.

[coffeescup]

Tucker Carlson is transparent!!! Hack is right.

[Chrispy7]

I am so shocked that you can have such a biased presenter on TV. What has happened to Democracy in the US, its very scary.

[clyde1952]

Funny, Tucker was one of the leading cheerleaders to get CBS to censor the Regan film a few years back. Just the usual Repug hypocritical b.s.

[liberalandpiste]

Wow, Tucker squirms when Brock pins him down on the fact that ABC, does in fact claim that their faux documentary stems from the 9/11 commission report.

[vitriolix]

jon steweart was right. tucker is a a complete hack.