i would just grabbed a seat by my truck and let the people who guided me there pull out my truck then once out discharge the concrete then send em the bill for repairs in the mail.
Concrete was still usable? There's no time limit on that mix? Most contracts I deal with have specific time limits. I'll bet that crap was starting to set unless it was a 3 bag mix...lol
If the driver of the stuck truck had put down the Bridgemaster rear axle at full hydraulic power two loaded trucks could have pulled him out easily. I have been stuck much worse than that and was pulled out by two loaded mixers. These trucks have extremely low gear ratios in the off road gears. With a lot of throttle they only pull about one to two MPH in Lo-Lo gear. We don't need no stinkin' wreckers we got trucks!!!
These trucks haul 10.4 cubic metres. The tandem drive axles have 37,000 kilos on them with the booster up, or 81,000 lb. for you yanks. The hole is actually a deep trench that had a steel plate incorrectly place over it. The weight of the truck is wedged on the trench. They did a great job getting it out safely. Pulling with loaded trucks would have caused more damage with out a doubt. Broken axles or rerar ends for sure.
Smart thing to do is unload thetruck into a dumster and pull it out with another loaded truck I would have never ordered a tow truck as long as the mixer had power. The load of concrete cost a lot less than a pair of tires rims and all the tow trucks.
Good point, except that it never could have been pulled out without the boom holding the weight on the left side of the truck. What the camera did not show was that the left rear wheels were essentially wedged against the side of the trench, without any real support under them. They would have snagged on coming forward, and probably would have been torn off on just a straight pull from another truck.
They were going to dump the concrete out; I don't know whey they didn't.
@kimchiman1000 We use to back our trucks as far as we could we would bury the axles then unload the truck after unloaded we would use 2 loaded trucks to pull out the stuck truck. The stuck truck would not just sit there there was a driver in the truck with transmission in lowest gear doing his best to walk it out. Sure that axle was buried but it would have walked out in its lowest gear being yanked out by another loaded truck. In the south they would do this to avoid paying for a pump truck.
Yeah, I got that. But this one didn't have anything UNDER the left wheels; they were wedged tight against the side of the trench (and the asphalt), not just sunk into dirt or muck.
Maybe your way would have worked, but it sure didn't look that way at the time.
@kimchiman1000 Best way to prevent further damage to the truck is just to let the professionals handle it. If you watch after the video there are some still photos. It looks like they did unload the truck via a loader. Our company has there own wench trucks and will use loaded dump trucks to pull us out. We do not use outside tow trucks or allow machinery on the job to pull us out.
@lhr1701 I was a ready mix driver the load would have come out. We have gotten trucks stuck up to their axles we unload them get a loaded truck to pull them out. We never used a pump truck in Ms. We would back the trucks up as fast as we could till we got stuck they would then build ramps from where the trucks were stuck or wheelbarrow the load to the site we did this umpteen times. Started trucking in 87 been around a few trucks. In Ca they use a pump truck to place concrete for sidewalks.
@cdltpx Here in NYC they use pumps of all kinds . From massive ones that can place cement over 200 feet , to tow behind pumps that you can use to pump into basements . Anyway This guy had nothing underneath him . And I think they did the right thing . He could have fallen deeper into that hole . If they would have tried to unload then cowboy it out .
I no how this guy feels ,do everthing you can for the customer , they they write you up for it . I did push the envelope when i use to drive . Anybody no if ( DRIVERCAM ) got this on tape
Y'know, I didn't actually look at what was on that truck, but I seem to remember Holmes 440s being a lot smaller, and mounted on one ton trucks. Haven't seen one in many years, mind you.
But then again, it's not my line of work, so what do I know...
@kimchiman1000 at 3:52 the v100 heavy is hooked in and starts to load the suspetion but he still doesnt have the outriggers down. is that wrecker such a beast it doesnt need them or is the crowd gathering around Al have him nervous enough to forget. i cant tell....maybe he puts them down after the camera moves away.
96,000 lbs? a yard weighs 4400 lbs and a normal truck holds 10 yards thats 24 tons plus the truck which i dont know. id guess around 10 tons? so that comes out to around 64,000 lbs totall weight here
Wrong! That truck easily weighs 50,000lbs. My Oshkosh had an empty weight of 41,000lbs with a CLEAN drum, and had less axels, and only 2 tires/wheels on the tag trailer.
What year oshkosh brother that s the ? You probabalyy have a live front end booster I'm assuming being an Oshkosh so I guess thats gonna be some extra weight. I drive 2006 Kenworth Stetter mixer with a dead front end and with a clean barrel and empty water tank I come out to about 29,500 to 30,000 empty so you must have a pretty heavy truck I guess...Wow
I wouldn't want to haul concrete where you are '08scionFM', because it sounds like you have some stupid drivers around there. It's not brain surgery!!!
Looks like a pump truck boom in the back ground maybe only way to get mixer to pump drove a mack booster 4 20 years asked 2 put that pig in some unbelievable spots labourers dont like wheelborrows im a finisher now better $
Even if there was a sign that sated that no concrete truck to drive over these road plates they would anyways because they dont want to actually try and do their job correctly. I dont know how many times ive told a driver not to go through an area on site because theyll get stuck, they do anyways and then ive got to reject the load because it had been in the drum for over 90 mins. Those guys kill me!
Ok why would he try to stadle that ditch in the first place, even with the plate metal there i would have told them to pack sand. still it funny as hell
I am a lafarge employee in arizona, and I was just wondering about are ZERO accident policy right about now?Are there any other plants on layoff beside's all az.,n.m.?
Yeah uh 96,000 lbs is WAYYYY off. I dont care if he has a tag axle and two steers. that truck chassis could not weigh more than 36,000 lbs empty. That would mean he had 15 yards of concrete in the drum. (4,000 lbs per yard) Drum is not that big. Besides that would violate ANY states weight regs. Id say more like 70 to 80,000lbs. Still a lot.
Ok 104 gross, ill even up my estimate of truck weight to 40,000 still makes 14 yards of concrete. Maybe the camera angles, but really does not look like a 15 yard drum. Looks like a regular 12 yarder which would mean with the drum stopped it would be pouring out on its own unless it was 11 yards or less. or really stiff mud.... 84-88,000 lbs max. Sorry im a little bit anal. lol
Sounds about right. I drove for another company Lafarge owned.....these trucks haul 10 cubic metres (1.308 yds per meter. A 10 M3 truck is in fact a 13 yd truck. Not sure of tare weight, but a smaller tandem truck with single steer and no booster back axle commonly wigh in at 12T plus. I would guess at least 16-20 tonnes empty.
My freind Al is the driver/owner of the green tow truck.
How could it weigh 96000 lbs? It has 4 axles each holding 20,000. Thats only 80000. Unless the rear axles are 46000 for the tandems and 40,000 for both front axles. Than thats only 86000.
youd think the driver would know what he was hauling cuz that looks like a 10 yard drum to me and if it was then i think his weight woulda been around 80,000 pounds
It was lucky underneath the steel plates were some steel scaffolding frames. Otherwise the truck might have been completely sunken in. Thanks for sharing.
I used to work for Lafarge, in the states. I still drive a mixer though. I know they use those type of mixers, with two front axles, in Canada, they have a lot stricter road weight requirements. 96000 pounds? That is a lot of weight on a mixer, lol.
I'd be SUPER PISSED at the guy who placed the metal plate if I were the driver! And embarrassed if I were the guy who put it in! I don't know if I've ever seen Westerns with two axles on the front! Just a good thing it wasn't wrecked more than what it was!
I'm very happy to report that I wasn't the guy ;-)
We had a similar scenario over a month back, and it took some doing to get the boss to understand that he couldn't have trucks driving over the plates all day delivering to a concrete pour. Some people just don't get it.
In Europe, dual tire tags are often called "nordic boogie", since it's mostly used in Scandinavia. I think down south, a single tag is "conventional", but up here it's referred to as a "poor mans boogie", since they couldn't afford enough tires...
We have Lafarge in the UK too. That looks quite a large truck with the hood at the front. We have eight leggers over here too, but cab over engine. How much concrete will that truck carry? Maybe those road plates should've been across ways on the trench and not length ways lol. Did the truck do any damage to the work in the trench?
I believe he was lucky to go with all wheels on the plate - I'd imagine the truck tipping if only one side fell in. On the other hand, one side of the truck might be light enough to stay over ground?
By the way, it's first time I ever saw a hood truck with 2 front axles. I'd love more pics and vids of those :-)
i would just grabbed a seat by my truck and let the people who guided me there pull out my truck then once out discharge the concrete then send em the bill for repairs in the mail.
ChoonDSW 3 months ago
@ChoonDSW
I think that's probably pretty close to what happened here.
kimchiman1000 3 months ago
Concrete was still usable? There's no time limit on that mix? Most contracts I deal with have specific time limits. I'll bet that crap was starting to set unless it was a 3 bag mix...lol
davetherocketguy 5 months ago
dip shit ..
aaronbaker38 7 months ago
"Hello Boss?" I have to report an, uh, AWW SHIT!
bluecollarboiler 9 months ago
If the driver of the stuck truck had put down the Bridgemaster rear axle at full hydraulic power two loaded trucks could have pulled him out easily. I have been stuck much worse than that and was pulled out by two loaded mixers. These trucks have extremely low gear ratios in the off road gears. With a lot of throttle they only pull about one to two MPH in Lo-Lo gear. We don't need no stinkin' wreckers we got trucks!!!
gunslinger5854 1 year ago
@gunslinger5854
These trucks haul 10.4 cubic metres. The tandem drive axles have 37,000 kilos on them with the booster up, or 81,000 lb. for you yanks. The hole is actually a deep trench that had a steel plate incorrectly place over it. The weight of the truck is wedged on the trench. They did a great job getting it out safely. Pulling with loaded trucks would have caused more damage with out a doubt. Broken axles or rerar ends for sure.
laf2410156 7 months ago
a Holmes 1801 would have pulled it out by itself
truckerjay1 1 year ago
it is the road plate layers problem at this point... What were they thinking???
gregbails4 1 year ago
Smart thing to do is unload thetruck into a dumster and pull it out with another loaded truck I would have never ordered a tow truck as long as the mixer had power. The load of concrete cost a lot less than a pair of tires rims and all the tow trucks.
cdltpx 1 year ago
@cdltpx
Good point, except that it never could have been pulled out without the boom holding the weight on the left side of the truck. What the camera did not show was that the left rear wheels were essentially wedged against the side of the trench, without any real support under them. They would have snagged on coming forward, and probably would have been torn off on just a straight pull from another truck.
They were going to dump the concrete out; I don't know whey they didn't.
kimchiman1000 1 year ago
@kimchiman1000 We use to back our trucks as far as we could we would bury the axles then unload the truck after unloaded we would use 2 loaded trucks to pull out the stuck truck. The stuck truck would not just sit there there was a driver in the truck with transmission in lowest gear doing his best to walk it out. Sure that axle was buried but it would have walked out in its lowest gear being yanked out by another loaded truck. In the south they would do this to avoid paying for a pump truck.
cdltpx 1 year ago
@cdltpx
Yeah, I got that. But this one didn't have anything UNDER the left wheels; they were wedged tight against the side of the trench (and the asphalt), not just sunk into dirt or muck.
Maybe your way would have worked, but it sure didn't look that way at the time.
Peace, out.
kimchiman1000 1 year ago
@kimchiman1000 Best way to prevent further damage to the truck is just to let the professionals handle it. If you watch after the video there are some still photos. It looks like they did unload the truck via a loader. Our company has there own wench trucks and will use loaded dump trucks to pull us out. We do not use outside tow trucks or allow machinery on the job to pull us out.
EyeinTeaJay 1 year ago
@cdltpx He can't unload the truck .When the drum starts to turn to unload it might shake to much and make a bad day worse .
lhr1701 7 months ago
@lhr1701 I was a ready mix driver the load would have come out. We have gotten trucks stuck up to their axles we unload them get a loaded truck to pull them out. We never used a pump truck in Ms. We would back the trucks up as fast as we could till we got stuck they would then build ramps from where the trucks were stuck or wheelbarrow the load to the site we did this umpteen times. Started trucking in 87 been around a few trucks. In Ca they use a pump truck to place concrete for sidewalks.
cdltpx 7 months ago
@cdltpx Here in NYC they use pumps of all kinds . From massive ones that can place cement over 200 feet , to tow behind pumps that you can use to pump into basements . Anyway This guy had nothing underneath him . And I think they did the right thing . He could have fallen deeper into that hole . If they would have tried to unload then cowboy it out .
lhr1701 7 months ago
holy twin steer loaded???? lafarge dont exist here anymore. got bought out by dexters construction
1984IT200 1 year ago
theres no way that truck weights that much
TheSteelrunner26 1 year ago
I no how this guy feels ,do everthing you can for the customer , they they write you up for it . I did push the envelope when i use to drive . Anybody no if ( DRIVERCAM ) got this on tape
MrBigglurtch 1 year ago
omg the foden 6x6 im learning to drive for the army will pull that out straight away
bmxking2008 1 year ago
whoever put the roadplates down "SACKED"
ssimsharp 1 year ago
i dirve a 10 yard mixer and loaded its 71,000......96,000 seems hard to believe.....
Blk05titan26 1 year ago
There was a scary 'pop' sound and the tow truck jumped a little bit at about 4:00. Wild stuff to do this for a living. Cool vid.
PirateSygnal 1 year ago
woulda took o'hare 7 hrs....
wilatemodel 2 years ago 2
Nice Job Al ,, kep up the great work ,cause wimpy wouldnt be handling that one lol ...one day il drive a real Wrecker lol
banamine 2 years ago
holmes 440 to the rescue????????yeeehaaaa
WYZAGUY 2 years ago
Y'know, I didn't actually look at what was on that truck, but I seem to remember Holmes 440s being a lot smaller, and mounted on one ton trucks. Haven't seen one in many years, mind you.
But then again, it's not my line of work, so what do I know...
kimchiman1000 2 years ago
@kimchiman1000 at 3:52 the v100 heavy is hooked in and starts to load the suspetion but he still doesnt have the outriggers down. is that wrecker such a beast it doesnt need them or is the crowd gathering around Al have him nervous enough to forget. i cant tell....maybe he puts them down after the camera moves away.
imjoe423 11 months ago
@WYZAGUY The tri axle is a Vulcan v100 the other is a Century something something....
hundanth 2 years ago
if i was the driver of that truck, i would've been pissed.
silerjd 2 years ago
Nice bit of film. Real life footage. The real thing! Nobody hurt. J.
vinylseat 2 years ago
Was that the only access in? I see that they have the boom pump set up, how long did it take to retrieve the truck? (I have many questions lol)
SavannahR8 2 years ago
Wow, they were lucky! That is a deep hole.
mikenw255 2 years ago
They say in the video it weighs 96k#, which means it's gotta be over 10 yards. And the drum's not turning! So when he gets out the fun REALLY starts!
sterlingab 2 years ago
Good footage - what are those wheels mounted high on the rear of the truck for?
jix177 2 years ago
xtra support when the truck is fully loaded, you can lower them down hydraulically
jamesrichardson63 2 years ago
Wheelie bar.
gliderp 2 years ago
9 m3
jamiehass 2 years ago
That Drums a bit longer guys...13...14 cy
razoredge45 2 years ago
That truck weights way more than 10 tons and see the 2 front axles alot more weight and this truck holds more than 10 yards
ltr450quadracer 2 years ago
why men works on raining day,,,
better wait until dry nice sunny day then working on it
bestamerica 2 years ago
96,000 lbs? a yard weighs 4400 lbs and a normal truck holds 10 yards thats 24 tons plus the truck which i dont know. id guess around 10 tons? so that comes out to around 64,000 lbs totall weight here
Skankpronger 2 years ago
Wrong! That truck easily weighs 50,000lbs. My Oshkosh had an empty weight of 41,000lbs with a CLEAN drum, and had less axels, and only 2 tires/wheels on the tag trailer.
Any drivers wish to comment?
daimajinbuu 2 years ago
really? the truck itself weighs that much!? i had no idea what a empty truck weighed
Skankpronger 2 years ago
What year oshkosh brother that s the ? You probabalyy have a live front end booster I'm assuming being an Oshkosh so I guess thats gonna be some extra weight. I drive 2006 Kenworth Stetter mixer with a dead front end and with a clean barrel and empty water tank I come out to about 29,500 to 30,000 empty so you must have a pretty heavy truck I guess...Wow
snowman0636 2 years ago
The description says 96,000 lbs
rjman159 2 years ago
I wouldn't want to haul concrete where you are '08scionFM', because it sounds like you have some stupid drivers around there. It's not brain surgery!!!
kjellifritt 2 years ago
Just the same for us in the UK they would ask you to put the truck up your ouw arm ?????
rallyingtcp 2 years ago
Looks like a pump truck boom in the back ground maybe only way to get mixer to pump drove a mack booster 4 20 years asked 2 put that pig in some unbelievable spots labourers dont like wheelborrows im a finisher now better $
chilsam 2 years ago
Hooked up my harbor freight 8000k winch and yanked that sucker out!
CRDLIBERTY 2 years ago
Even if there was a sign that sated that no concrete truck to drive over these road plates they would anyways because they dont want to actually try and do their job correctly. I dont know how many times ive told a driver not to go through an area on site because theyll get stuck, they do anyways and then ive got to reject the load because it had been in the drum for over 90 mins. Those guys kill me!
08scionFM 2 years ago
fckn lafarge... good for em'
llp38664 3 years ago
dey must be in canada eh!
badaztrike 3 years ago
That we is, eh!
Or 'Canuckistan' as I usually call it.
kimchiman1000 3 years ago
lower the trailer! pour the load out! stupervisors.
x5a1 3 years ago
damnn i got a change my job to a tow truck driver , they are making the money for only a few hours
FELIPELORA05 3 years ago
Ok why would he try to stadle that ditch in the first place, even with the plate metal there i would have told them to pack sand. still it funny as hell
wolvie33 3 years ago
I am a lafarge employee in arizona, and I was just wondering about are ZERO accident policy right about now?Are there any other plants on layoff beside's all az.,n.m.?
19565250 3 years ago
THATS WHAT I CALL A HOT LOAD
seedwards98 3 years ago
get a big machine and pull it out
joelow2129 3 years ago
Yeah uh 96,000 lbs is WAYYYY off. I dont care if he has a tag axle and two steers. that truck chassis could not weigh more than 36,000 lbs empty. That would mean he had 15 yards of concrete in the drum. (4,000 lbs per yard) Drum is not that big. Besides that would violate ANY states weight regs. Id say more like 70 to 80,000lbs. Still a lot.
Mixitup2007 3 years ago
Okay then.
kimchiman1000 3 years ago
In Canada....twin steer= 20,000/axel=40,000lbs
tandem=44,000 (with that spread)
tag=20,000
total available gross=104,000lbs
karebehr 3 years ago
Ok 104 gross, ill even up my estimate of truck weight to 40,000 still makes 14 yards of concrete. Maybe the camera angles, but really does not look like a 15 yard drum. Looks like a regular 12 yarder which would mean with the drum stopped it would be pouring out on its own unless it was 11 yards or less. or really stiff mud.... 84-88,000 lbs max. Sorry im a little bit anal. lol
Mixitup2007 3 years ago
Maybe the driver was just REEEAAALLLYY overweight?
(just a thought...)
kimchiman1000 3 years ago
4,000 lbs. per yard!
tone4624 2 years ago
yeah i was tired that day, it would mean 16 yards not 14 even more unbelievable. or a 12 yard load with a 56000 pound truck (haha no way)
Mixitup2007 2 years ago
@Mixitup2007 yo bro the truck has a 11 metre drum on it, thats Y it has tandem steering and a booster
2woody56 1 year ago
@karebehr
Sounds about right. I drove for another company Lafarge owned.....these trucks haul 10 cubic metres (1.308 yds per meter. A 10 M3 truck is in fact a 13 yd truck. Not sure of tare weight, but a smaller tandem truck with single steer and no booster back axle commonly wigh in at 12T plus. I would guess at least 16-20 tonnes empty.
My freind Al is the driver/owner of the green tow truck.
clickmonster 2 years ago
How could it weigh 96000 lbs? It has 4 axles each holding 20,000. Thats only 80000. Unless the rear axles are 46000 for the tandems and 40,000 for both front axles. Than thats only 86000.
kingmike40 3 years ago
Then there's the tag axle hanging off the rear end. It only comes up when the truck arrives at the job site, or when the truck is not fully loaded.
My guess is that it would account for the extra weight. All I really know about it is what the driver told me.
kimchiman1000 3 years ago
youd think the driver would know what he was hauling cuz that looks like a 10 yard drum to me and if it was then i think his weight woulda been around 80,000 pounds
Skankpronger 2 years ago
wow.. never seen a dual wheeled booster axle
Gant84 3 years ago
It was lucky underneath the steel plates were some steel scaffolding frames. Otherwise the truck might have been completely sunken in. Thanks for sharing.
spitgalore 3 years ago
nice sling shot no big deal on the rim nice work.
normstowing 3 years ago
I work in Denver for LaFarge, and I don't remember having a safety message about this one. I bet that was a fun ride!
kenfrench2005 3 years ago
Lets hops they did a risk assessment on getting that truck out of there !!!
stuchill001 3 years ago
I used to work for Lafarge, in the states. I still drive a mixer though. I know they use those type of mixers, with two front axles, in Canada, they have a lot stricter road weight requirements. 96000 pounds? That is a lot of weight on a mixer, lol.
Dman442 3 years ago
i drove one too, we called them twin steers, but they were only 79,000 gross , never seen a bridgemaster with 4 wheels on it
Trinity627 3 years ago
THEY SHOULD HAVE FILLED THE HOLE
INSANEREPTILES 3 years ago
I hope the contractor signed the ticket.lol
bobbyb1979 3 years ago 2
I bet Hans Trained this guy
snazz 3 years ago
Hans trained him haha poor sean
bushwackerluke01 3 years ago
go get the dozer
maplemanz 3 years ago
just drive that bitch rite out ahha
jake309109 3 years ago
who got fired that day? :d
tippmannallstar 3 years ago
now that sucks
56wb56a 4 years ago
Indeed it did.
kimchiman1000 4 years ago
..ring ring, Hey boss, uhh I'm gonna be late.
or..
..ring ring Hey boss, uhh I quit and BTW the truck is stuck, later!
Reverseflush 4 years ago
Those wreckers are too cool! Talk about some serious horsepower.
1066D 4 years ago 2
Got to admit american trucks are cool. ;)
Nonamed22 4 years ago 2
Never seen tandems on the front end of a conventional cab like that before. Glad the guy didnt lose the concrete because of that.
jeepman65 4 years ago
How unfortunate...
MitchellM15 4 years ago
I'd be SUPER PISSED at the guy who placed the metal plate if I were the driver! And embarrassed if I were the guy who put it in! I don't know if I've ever seen Westerns with two axles on the front! Just a good thing it wasn't wrecked more than what it was!
Trashman242 4 years ago
I'm very happy to report that I wasn't the guy ;-)
We had a similar scenario over a month back, and it took some doing to get the boss to understand that he couldn't have trucks driving over the plates all day delivering to a concrete pour. Some people just don't get it.
kimchiman1000 4 years ago
wow, so many comments! I'm not going to top this. how does the old saying go? "Be quick to listen, not quick to comment"
gangesex 4 years ago
shouldnt drive over those metal plates lol
iseehaters 4 years ago
wow thats crazy AL its not a total loss either able to use the load and fix a truck and those tow trucks WOW those are nice
gtpmike2000 4 years ago
WOW thats a lucky break alright only a lil dent and a rim and tire looks much worse by thw qay those tow trucks were monsters !
gtpmike2000 4 years ago
I'd like to know what the axle hanging in the air at the rear of the truck is for too Al.
solar140 4 years ago
1. You can bet that those road plates are crossways now, bro! LOL. Should've been from the start.
2. The axle you see is called a 'tag axle'. It is lowered when the truck is driving en route to a job.
3. No damage was done to the work in the trench. We were lucky - this time.
4. I think the truck holds about 11 cubic meters of mix.
kimchiman1000 4 years ago
Funny how it has dual tags! Ours have a single wheel on each end of the tag axle.
Trashman242 4 years ago
Never seen a tag axle lift that high before...
In Europe, dual tire tags are often called "nordic boogie", since it's mostly used in Scandinavia. I think down south, a single tag is "conventional", but up here it's referred to as a "poor mans boogie", since they couldn't afford enough tires...
Griffencph 4 years ago
We have Lafarge in the UK too. That looks quite a large truck with the hood at the front. We have eight leggers over here too, but cab over engine. How much concrete will that truck carry? Maybe those road plates should've been across ways on the trench and not length ways lol. Did the truck do any damage to the work in the trench?
solar140 4 years ago
I believe he was lucky to go with all wheels on the plate - I'd imagine the truck tipping if only one side fell in. On the other hand, one side of the truck might be light enough to stay over ground?
By the way, it's first time I ever saw a hood truck with 2 front axles. I'd love more pics and vids of those :-)
Griffencph 4 years ago
What's the purpose of the axle hanging in the air at the rear of the truck?
Griffencph 4 years ago