This whole boondoggle is the result of property developers who want to build high dollar condos along the water front. And want taxpayers to foot the bill so they can have an unobstructed view. A tunnel will only serve to literally bury traffic congestion without any possibility of expansion choking of the flow of goods making the Port of Seattle even less competitive. The whole thing wreaks of corruption and the real estate lobbyists who bought off our government.
By MrFartmanTv's logic if one building collapses in an earthquake, all buildings would collapse in an earthquake. There is a reason that Pioneer Square was devasted in the Nisqually earthquake, and the skyscrapers were virtually unharmed. We learn as we continue to live on the Ring of Fire and our understanding of what to build things that are earthquake grade. The design of the seawall and viaduct were short sighted to be located on the Ring of Fire.
You are basically telling us that the street is not safe and all bridges are going to collapse including West Seattle Bridge, I-90 Floating bridge, Bridges over Lake Union, and I am willing to admit SR-99 Viaduct, and SR-520 floating bridge are all going to collapse if there is an earthquake. BUT why does it make a particular bridge a safety concern?
the alaskan way viaduct is a national treasure and it should be saved from greedy real estate developers. it would be a lot cheaper just to retrofit the entire thing and placed on a national historic registry. but i guess it's too late for all that now.
What's with the West Coast and their inherent need to build double decked elevated highways? Didn't a city planner just think that was a stupid idea...you know because of earthquakes?
Wow, what a bunch of optimists who ran this simulation. Only 1 minute of shaking, and no tsunami? This was the BEST case scenario! It's going to be more like 4-6 minutes of shaking, with a follow-up tsunami. Like Japan.
@LadyArwyn you're referring to a possible Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake right? Since its off the coast i'm not sure if the tsunami would hit Seattle, but the shaking would be certainly be strong and long lasting, even skyscrapers could collapse, now that's frightening
@LadyArwyn you're referring to a possible Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake right? Since its off the coast i'm not sure if the tsunami would hit Seattle, but the shaking would be certainly be strong and long lasting, even skyscrapers could collapse, now that's frightening
@TehWanderingKind Up in Seattle buildings aren't made to be earthquake safe like they are in California. Many places in California get earthquakes often so they built the buildings to be resistant to them. Seattle on the other hand rarely ever has to deal with earthquakes, so their buildings aren't made with earthquakes in mind. This is why even though the earthquake in Chile was way stronger than the one in Haiti, more people died in Haiti because the buildings were weaker
"The sea wall is going to get replaced at the same time the tunnel is built."
Will it? I find all sorts of information on the tunnel, but nothing on replacing the seawall. I know that was part of the original plan proposed by Nickels (at the very beginning), but I thought it was removed to address separately due to cost.
Seriously? How many of our tax dollars were spent to produce this completely hypothetical, fear-invoking piece of political fluff? Especially like the sidebar comment at the end, "no tsunami expected." Umm. . . yeah, probably NOT in a SOUND, duh. I'd take my odds on the Viaduct rather than being stuck underground in a tunnel if this happened.
@realesteight you know what else is hilarious? Grossly misappropriated tax funds for Gregoire's tunnel project! Boy, that's almost as bad an idea as making 520 a toll road, ha! Oh, wait...
I like how the boats and everything that was actually in the water was untouched. If this video is ONLY for the destruction of Alaskan Way, that's one thing, but I think it should have included everything within a reasonable distance to Alaskan Way as well. From the looks of this video, it seems as if the damage would be bounded to the coast.
I'd like to see this video with the "new" revisions installed and how it will save us all. MmmHmm. I just don't like to see a particular version shown of anything that is full of fear and dread (scare tactics).
More than one factor depend. The soil. If downtown Seattle is under loos sans than there is a greater chance for deaths to occur. The same thing in Frisco and Mexico City. The earthquakes that hit in 1985 and 1989. San Fran is under loose sediment the reason that houses in the Marina District toppled over 100 km from the epicenter and Mexico City stands above the remnants of a drained lake
I live here in Seattle and they have been talking about the Viaduct's instability for years. Walking underneath, you can see why. At one point, right near the Art Institute of Seattle, the drains are so clogged, downpour doesn't drain properly. Does the rain wash off the edge, instead? Nope. It washes straight through the segmenting. If they had had better upkeep, the damage wouldn't have been as bad.
Wonderful - a tunnel to replace the A.W.V. will be bored through Jell-O? There's a waste of a few billion $. Maybe the waterfront should just be given back to the Sound.
@TheTwinTailedFox BECAUSE IT'S A FREAKIN SIMULATION OF A DISASTER THAT WILL DEFINITELY HAPPEN (if the viaduct doesn't get replace) AND WILL KILL HUNDREDS OF LIVES? Do you still wan't a video game of and earthquake that will kill real people?
@TheTwinTailedFox Jesus Christ, thats what i always ask! I wanna some how contact the Grand Theft Auto series, probably Rockstar Games, and say "Make a game in Los Angeles or Alaska and have a giant ass quake everyonce n a while. Make buildings crumble! Banks especially ;D"
Los Angeles quakes are usually fun because we get more small ones than big ones and the little ones are just plain ole funny.
@KHQMaster 6.8? Na. The Northridge quake of 1994 was a 6.9 and no ground liquified here... I think the guy before me was right, 7.0-8.0. Cuz pictures of the friggin Great Alaskan Quake (9.2) shows hills that just slid down with houses almost fully in tact with it.
@TheBassguy1: I lived thru Northridge. There was no liquifaction because the soil under the San Fernando Valley is not fill or sand. Not all ground liquifies. During Loma Prieta, the fill material placed under what is now the Mission District in San Francisco did liquify resulting in the collapse of several structures. The Alaskan Way Viaduct is the same vintage and in similar design to the I-880 structure that collapsed during Loma Prieta and sits on ground that is probably far less stable.
OMFG! Is the city of Seattle doing anything to reinforce this structure or replace it? I'm new to California and haven't experienced anything like this yet.
@hazelhybrid Ive been living in Cali my whole life and havent experienced anything like this yet. Weve had a few water mains break in a couple 5's and a 6 but since ive been here, no crumbling freeways and gigantic fires.
The animation is good but unfortunately people have their atention in the viaduct when the real issue is the soil. I wouldn't be surprised is some of the big buildings in the downtown or going towards cap hill also collapse. There are several other bridges and overpasses that will collapse due to an earthquake in Seattle. The major problem here is the soil. Seattle doesn't have a chance if it is hit by an earthquake as the one that hit Chile a couple of weeks ago
I like the pointers and comments. Very helpful. The damage depicted here is only minimal - what if other buildings fall, or if there is a tsunami. I doubt those sections of the viaduct would just pancake like that. The bridge in Cali fell toppled over on its' side.
@JAScott2008 That earthquake in the simulation was only 1 min. The whole video was 6min because it allowed time to stop the simulation to show the damage and what actually would occure.
Just goes to show how little the public knows in what's best for the city. Sure, let's reject BOTH OPTIONS when brought to a vote. This video shows that SOMETHING has to happen, and another raised viaduct is not the solution.
Back in the 1990's we lived in Federal Way when an earthquake hit. The epicenter was under Vashon. It knocked us to our knees and it sounded like the people in the apartment above us were jumping up and down on their floor. Big booms. We couldn't even stand up while it was happening. Scariest thing I've been through.
haha i live in the south puget sound and we got fuckin owned in the 2001 earthquake haha! it was the craziest thing i have ever felt and seen here! ha
NO TUNNEL NO TUNNEL NO TUNNEL! I'd rather be on top of the ground rather than a stupid pipe underground.... your simulation showed pipes bursting... why wouldn't the tunnel? Idiots.
I was totally against the tunnel idea. What this video needs is less pauses (or none at all would make it look less government-y) and a good soundtrack with great music and a killer voiceover announcer. We want something (or nothing) to replace the viaduct we know bad things will happen if we dont. waste of $?
@KHQMaster well, i would've supported a street-level highway or a new elevated highway instead of a measly 2-lane tunnel that could cause just as catastrphic results (for drivers) in a considerable-mangitude earthquake as the failing viaduct. plus the tunnel has had tons of co$t over-runs.
$80,000 here $500,000 here, pretty soon it all adds up to real money. Government keeps taking a bigger and bigger bite out of the economy and the citizen keeps getting less. Consider that in the Rosselini Era of the late 50's and early 60's the state buil more roads and highways than in the 40+ years since combined, all with a nominal sales tax increase of less than 1% a toll that expired. Now we just pay and pay without any end in site. 10% + effective sales tax is a huge burden.
actually, taxes are good. the people that dont want to pay taxes are bumb. higher taxes for better schools, free health care, better transportation and green technology. just look at sweden! paying 40%+ tax and they're the happiest nation on earth. and while it might not work in the entire nation (300+ million is hard to keep track of), it can work in a state, and it has worked in WA for many years. we shouldnt be worrying about our selfish needs, instead we should worry about a better world.
Unfortunately Seattle has to be one of the stupidest cities as regards to its overall planning. They built this city so poorly as if they never knew it was built on a fualt line. To top if off the underground is completely hollow which will probably collapes during a major quake. You can look at the the way the freeways were built and how they ingored mass transit and not be suprised that they never took into account making Seattle Earthquake ready. It's going to be bad when the big one hits.
@mymindisweird heh, I bought a t-shirt for my (structural engineer) brother for his birthday once that says "A city built on Rock and Roll would be structurally unsound!"
put more fear out there, this would have happend the day after it was built i know where this is going its propaganda , the people most worried about it are the the one's that dont use it ,they should get a life .
Great work on the computer simulations. Seems it would make the point that the structures either need retrofitting,rebuilding and/or relocating.Engineers learned so much from San Fran last time. Not a question of if it will happen,just when...
Spent all that money on retro-fitting years ago and look what would happen; wasted the tax payers dollars. Is it true or a scare tactic to get people on board with the project to spend more tax payers money? Just never know who to believe when it comes to government and spending your money. How much did they spend on this great movie?
Yeah and how much water cooler money to show it around? This is more than twice what the average person makes in Seattle. I am guessing that they have at least $500,000 or more budgeted for this animation. Just to sell the public something they are going to do anyway whether they like it or not. That is my point! I am guessing you work for the city and that is why you probably may like this animation.
I do not work for the city. I think the animation is pointless and a waste of tax dollars. But I do agree that the vaiduct needs to be replaced with a tunnel. It will bring jobs to seattle and lets face it, its not going to make much of an impact on your individual taxes you pay.
Amen the animation is pointless and is just being used to sell the public on something they plan on doing anyway. Yes it is probably something that needs to be done but as usual just as you can see the way they use the tax dollars is my point. To say its not going to make much of an impact on your individual taxes you pay is my concern as to how they spend it impacts your individual taxes we all pay.
How do you figure it will bring jobs to Seattle? Once the construction is done, the tunnel will carry far fewer vehicles than the viaduct does now, and leave Washington with yet another economy crushing debt.
An entire new bridge would cost a fraction of the Big Dig, carry MORE THAN BEFORE, be built in a fraction of the time, and be infinately safer.
The DOT already has plans for it, but a short list of swells (elites) want a better view of Elliott Bay, while WE THE PEOPLE PAY FOR IT!
If the bridge falls down, you'll still have to pay for it. In fact, it'll cost more because the state will have to pay for the clean up costs and property damage. A land bridge in the city has to fall onto something. Plus there will be loss of life and limb. Hospitals tabs would run for months. With that kind of damage, insurance companies couldn't handle it alone. We're talking tens of billions of dollars in damage vs. a fraction of that to build a tunnel.
This whole boondoggle is the result of property developers who want to build high dollar condos along the water front. And want taxpayers to foot the bill so they can have an unobstructed view. A tunnel will only serve to literally bury traffic congestion without any possibility of expansion choking of the flow of goods making the Port of Seattle even less competitive. The whole thing wreaks of corruption and the real estate lobbyists who bought off our government.
MrMousekillaz 2 months ago
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I refuse to believe this is an accurate representation of the Seattle viaduct. Because there is no such thing as earth quakes.
oldsven01 2 months ago
By MrFartmanTv's logic if one building collapses in an earthquake, all buildings would collapse in an earthquake. There is a reason that Pioneer Square was devasted in the Nisqually earthquake, and the skyscrapers were virtually unharmed. We learn as we continue to live on the Ring of Fire and our understanding of what to build things that are earthquake grade. The design of the seawall and viaduct were short sighted to be located on the Ring of Fire.
supasta8301 2 months ago
You are basically telling us that the street is not safe and all bridges are going to collapse including West Seattle Bridge, I-90 Floating bridge, Bridges over Lake Union, and I am willing to admit SR-99 Viaduct, and SR-520 floating bridge are all going to collapse if there is an earthquake. BUT why does it make a particular bridge a safety concern?
MrFartmanTv 2 months ago
the alaskan way viaduct is a national treasure and it should be saved from greedy real estate developers. it would be a lot cheaper just to retrofit the entire thing and placed on a national historic registry. but i guess it's too late for all that now.
jste77 3 months ago
this video is filed under news and politics?.......wonder which one has more influence on it.
darrengvw 3 months ago
What's with the West Coast and their inherent need to build double decked elevated highways? Didn't a city planner just think that was a stupid idea...you know because of earthquakes?
commanderkai 4 months ago 2
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JLoveBomb 4 months ago
NOOOOO, NOT IVAR'S!
t3hfuhr3r 4 months ago 5
@t3hfuhr3r :'(
merlock101 4 months ago
I thought you were crazy Seattle, but from here I can see you're CRACKED
DrkBlueXG 4 months ago 9
I'd rather be in an earthquake than watch this video more than once.
OzPublic 4 months ago
Wow, what a bunch of optimists who ran this simulation. Only 1 minute of shaking, and no tsunami? This was the BEST case scenario! It's going to be more like 4-6 minutes of shaking, with a follow-up tsunami. Like Japan.
LadyArwyn 4 months ago
@LadyArwyn Um you know we are in a SOUND right???
r1ckn0rr15 4 months ago
@LadyArwyn you're referring to a possible Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake right? Since its off the coast i'm not sure if the tsunami would hit Seattle, but the shaking would be certainly be strong and long lasting, even skyscrapers could collapse, now that's frightening
Liezei 4 months ago
@LadyArwyn you're referring to a possible Cascadia Subduction Zone earthquake right? Since its off the coast i'm not sure if the tsunami would hit Seattle, but the shaking would be certainly be strong and long lasting, even skyscrapers could collapse, now that's frightening
Liezei 4 months ago
Damn, Seattle is going to be Cracked.
buffer545 4 months ago 15
This can't be real. There wasn't a single Starbucks visible in that entire video.
foodiedave 4 months ago 3
@Possumtrapper25 Jeez, I'm glad you're okay. It was just like... my windows and the bed shook. It wasn't really anything where I live.
It's scary that something like this can do so much damage. It's just shaking, you know? You wouldn't think it could harm anything.
TehWanderingKind 4 months ago
DAMN NATURE U SCAREH!
sp00kynek0 4 months ago
;_; i won't be sleeping tonight
oh wait i don't live there :D
sp00kynek0 4 months ago
@xchickenmanx I know. That's how I found this video, too. The difference is I don't act like a retard about it.
SillyLitleGirl 4 months ago
according to the simulation Ivars is safe
ofoosy 4 months ago
+1 to living in the woods.
AnotherSchmoe 4 months ago
HELLO FROM CRACKED.
Uhm. I've experienced a 7.0 before. It was nothing like this.
I may be from California, but I'm sure that earthquake ratings aren't different, and certainly not THAT different. No one died.
TehWanderingKind 4 months ago
@TehWanderingKind
I lived in Guam for a couple of years and we had something like a 7.6 (don't remember the exact decimal), and it wasn't really that big of a deal.
AnotherSchmoe 4 months ago
@TehWanderingKind I lived through a 6.0 that killed 181 people. You were lucky, I was not. anything from a 5.2 upwards has the potential to kill.
Possumtrapper25 4 months ago
@TehWanderingKind Up in Seattle buildings aren't made to be earthquake safe like they are in California. Many places in California get earthquakes often so they built the buildings to be resistant to them. Seattle on the other hand rarely ever has to deal with earthquakes, so their buildings aren't made with earthquakes in mind. This is why even though the earthquake in Chile was way stronger than the one in Haiti, more people died in Haiti because the buildings were weaker
EvenHefewy 4 months ago
Well fuck. I need to move.
CombedPanther 4 months ago
I don't even live in America, let alone Seattle, but that was scary O_O
caturday456 4 months ago
:areyoufuckingkiddingme:
IMMAMANNYPENG 4 months ago
Did anyone not come here through cracked
ohsomecustard 4 months ago
@ohsomecustard Cracked reader here
Valkod23 4 months ago
So you better give a fuck, Seattle.
gnrcr 4 months ago
And Pat Robertson will blame it all on the gays.
SirRobertDole2 4 months ago
I live in Vancouver BC, and I'm pretty terrified for when this is going to happen. :|
Kyoruakaio 4 months ago
So, your whole seawall is gonna be broken apart, your city will be without power, random fires will spurt up.
But hey, look on the bright side, you aren't going to experience any tsunamis!
jzime 4 months ago
Wow the new Sim City game looks badass!
JamboloMebedir 4 months ago 6
No tsunami? I am disappoint.
UberScienceNerd 4 months ago
Also, I'll never understand "cracked" spammers. They're just as bad as Firsters.
SillyLitleGirl 4 months ago 11
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@SillyLitleGirl Luckily no one gives a fuck what you think.
iClassiqaL 4 months ago
I refuse to believe this is an accurate representation of the Seattle viaduct. It's sunny in the background.
SillyLitleGirl 4 months ago 70
@SillyLitleGirl I was thinking the exact same thing!
StickManJr 4 months ago
CRACKED
chinbin234 4 months ago
cracked
MrBlueBrewer 4 months ago
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"The sea wall is going to get replaced at the same time the tunnel is built."
Will it? I find all sorts of information on the tunnel, but nothing on replacing the seawall. I know that was part of the original plan proposed by Nickels (at the very beginning), but I thought it was removed to address separately due to cost.
rainycity1video 4 months ago
Seriously? How many of our tax dollars were spent to produce this completely hypothetical, fear-invoking piece of political fluff? Especially like the sidebar comment at the end, "no tsunami expected." Umm. . . yeah, probably NOT in a SOUND, duh. I'd take my odds on the Viaduct rather than being stuck underground in a tunnel if this happened.
realesteight 5 months ago
@realesteight you know what else is hilarious? Grossly misappropriated tax funds for Gregoire's tunnel project! Boy, that's almost as bad an idea as making 520 a toll road, ha! Oh, wait...
SillyLitleGirl 4 months ago
Thumbs up if you think people from the east coast should watch some Japan earthquake footage.
droptopsixfo 5 months ago
thumbs up if your watching this only becuase of the earthquake on the east coast
AlienToast456 5 months ago
So, next question is, what does the simulation say will happen to the tunnel when the sea wall collapses and the ground soil liquifies?
rainycity1video 5 months ago 4
The sea wall is going to get replaced at the same time the tunnel is built.
btspman 4 months ago
The good news, Ivar's is still standing. Who wants Fish 'n Chips?
holjesus 6 months ago 2
I like how the boats and everything that was actually in the water was untouched. If this video is ONLY for the destruction of Alaskan Way, that's one thing, but I think it should have included everything within a reasonable distance to Alaskan Way as well. From the looks of this video, it seems as if the damage would be bounded to the coast.
danes477 8 months ago
I'd like to see this video with the "new" revisions installed and how it will save us all. MmmHmm. I just don't like to see a particular version shown of anything that is full of fear and dread (scare tactics).
parfaitlesens 8 months ago
More than one factor depend. The soil. If downtown Seattle is under loos sans than there is a greater chance for deaths to occur. The same thing in Frisco and Mexico City. The earthquakes that hit in 1985 and 1989. San Fran is under loose sediment the reason that houses in the Marina District toppled over 100 km from the epicenter and Mexico City stands above the remnants of a drained lake
seth5220 8 months ago
tsunami was the next event...
DjGisME 9 months ago
ikr im dumb
LoverOfGT 9 months ago
i like how the pier is completely destroyed while all of the sky scrapers are perfectly un-touched.
vlad781 9 months ago
noob spinning out @ 1:09
jnr1989 9 months ago
And when the 9.0 Cascadia earthquake happens, it'll be this, and much much worse. With a tsunami on top of the earthquake damage.
hebneh 10 months ago
2012 happened... early.
Cookie07730 10 months ago
@Cookie07730,,,,nah you wish it was only that bad
DjGisME 9 months ago
"Sections of viaduct collapse"... no duh!!!
aroze14 10 months ago
Damn...
GodlyGraphics 10 months ago
this is why i avoid the vaiduct anytime im in seattle
NickBigsmoke 10 months ago
@NickBigsmoke Wuss!
darrengvw 3 months ago
Is this the new Michael Bay movie?
scitzofrenik 10 months ago
And the new tunnel under the viaduct is supposed to be safer - HOW?
SoozKooz 10 months ago
this is an amazing simulation!!!
Abdurahman1234567890 10 months ago
Fake
LoverOfGT 10 months ago
@LoverOfGT you, my good sir, are the wisest man i have ever met.
BeakerOfBlood 10 months ago
Moral of the story: If there is an earthquake, don't seek shelter under the viaduct.
JoshuaH688 10 months ago
I live here in Seattle and they have been talking about the Viaduct's instability for years. Walking underneath, you can see why. At one point, right near the Art Institute of Seattle, the drains are so clogged, downpour doesn't drain properly. Does the rain wash off the edge, instead? Nope. It washes straight through the segmenting. If they had had better upkeep, the damage wouldn't have been as bad.
1987GamerGirl 11 months ago
Wonderful - a tunnel to replace the A.W.V. will be bored through Jell-O? There's a waste of a few billion $. Maybe the waterfront should just be given back to the Sound.
AstoriaMichelle99 11 months ago
that would suck being under the highway
CocoWhy 11 months ago
Questions:
1. Can the A.W.V. be reinforced for a few million dollars instead of the hundreds of millions to build a tunnel?
2. How would the tunnel react to a 7.0?
HVYMETL 11 months ago
magnitude??
beetlecarfan1 1 year ago
@beetlecarfan1 Magnitude 7.0
saber58 1 year ago
was this after lynch's beast mode run against the saints last saturday?
calvin1392 1 year ago 34
I just hope we don't have any earthquakes here in Los Angeles....
Murcielago247 1 year ago
What can't there be video games like this!?
TheTwinTailedFox 1 year ago
@TheTwinTailedFox BECAUSE IT'S A FREAKIN SIMULATION OF A DISASTER THAT WILL DEFINITELY HAPPEN (if the viaduct doesn't get replace) AND WILL KILL HUNDREDS OF LIVES? Do you still wan't a video game of and earthquake that will kill real people?
KHQMaster 1 year ago
@TheTwinTailedFox Jesus Christ, thats what i always ask! I wanna some how contact the Grand Theft Auto series, probably Rockstar Games, and say "Make a game in Los Angeles or Alaska and have a giant ass quake everyonce n a while. Make buildings crumble! Banks especially ;D"
Los Angeles quakes are usually fun because we get more small ones than big ones and the little ones are just plain ole funny.
TheBassguy1 1 year ago
So wild.
IceyLava108 1 year ago
Overdue for replacement - is it done yet?
omegapoint444 1 year ago
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omegapoint444 1 year ago
im loving how shit just randomly bursts into flames
mrdipallins 1 year ago
@mrdipallins If you read it, it wasn't random. There are gas pipes under the road. I'm loving how they're finally gonna replace this viaduct.
KHQMaster 1 year ago
No tsunami? You hope!
geonerd 1 year ago
@geonerd So you wan't a tsunami to cover up the state of Washington?
KHQMaster 1 year ago
@KHQMaster And halfway inland to California too?
TheBassguy1 1 year ago
Now how big is the magnitude of this simulation? Liquified soil? That means a lot of frictional heat...a lot of frictional heat means a big quake.
TheBassguy1 1 year ago
@TheBassguy1 i've actually seen this in the NGC and it was from 7-8mg
KillerDbz45 1 year ago
@KillerDbz45 Oh crap. 7-8? So then this was intensified however many times during the Great Alaskan Quake? Damn.
TheBassguy1 1 year ago
@TheBassguy1 6.8. And it's liquefied soil because it's a waterfront.
KHQMaster 1 year ago
@KHQMaster 6.8? Na. The Northridge quake of 1994 was a 6.9 and no ground liquified here... I think the guy before me was right, 7.0-8.0. Cuz pictures of the friggin Great Alaskan Quake (9.2) shows hills that just slid down with houses almost fully in tact with it.
TheBassguy1 1 year ago
@TheBassguy1: I lived thru Northridge. There was no liquifaction because the soil under the San Fernando Valley is not fill or sand. Not all ground liquifies. During Loma Prieta, the fill material placed under what is now the Mission District in San Francisco did liquify resulting in the collapse of several structures. The Alaskan Way Viaduct is the same vintage and in similar design to the I-880 structure that collapsed during Loma Prieta and sits on ground that is probably far less stable.
saber58 1 year ago 6
OMFG! Is the city of Seattle doing anything to reinforce this structure or replace it? I'm new to California and haven't experienced anything like this yet.
hazelhybrid 1 year ago
@hazelhybrid Ive been living in Cali my whole life and havent experienced anything like this yet. Weve had a few water mains break in a couple 5's and a 6 but since ive been here, no crumbling freeways and gigantic fires.
TheBassguy1 1 year ago
@TheBassguy1 No crumbling freeways? What about the Loma Prieta earthquake that took down the Cyprus Freeway and the Bay Bridge in 1989?
artsylovelylady 1 year ago
@artsylovelylady Im in Southern Cali, and i havent been alive that long. I was born a year after the Northridge.
TheBassguy1 1 year ago
Well hey, at least no tsunami is expected. A silver lining to every cloud, right?
jezebeljade 1 year ago
Damn I drive on this Viaduct almost everyday
Jasonxx420xx 1 year ago
3ds max rules !
ADPDirty 1 year ago
can you download this from the web?
callofdutywawcj1 1 year ago
fake
YourBiggestFan123100 1 year ago
@YourBiggestFan123100 Kid, please take the time to READ THE TITLE. kthxbai.
Ryoukun16 1 year ago
ANNOYING NOTES ARE ANNOYING.
xrelates 1 year ago
@xrelates ANNOYING CAPS LOCK IS ANNOYING
Ryoukun16 1 year ago
All ya'll need to see this!
MichaelLP33 1 year ago
wow. Thats was really scary. I can't even imagine whats gonna happen in a tunnel with an eartqueake :S
MaLuPe82 1 year ago
The animation is good but unfortunately people have their atention in the viaduct when the real issue is the soil. I wouldn't be surprised is some of the big buildings in the downtown or going towards cap hill also collapse. There are several other bridges and overpasses that will collapse due to an earthquake in Seattle. The major problem here is the soil. Seattle doesn't have a chance if it is hit by an earthquake as the one that hit Chile a couple of weeks ago
cubkcster 1 year ago
wow nice animation! maybe this is how future city simulation games will look like..with realistic disasters whatsoever.
olegario39 1 year ago
wow...................................coke
cokeacola300 1 year ago
@eboneetigress: in Oakland, the structure that is identical to the viaduct PANCAKED just as shone in this video. Check the video archive.
goddessgoodjuju 1 year ago
It's cheaper to wait tll the viaduct collapses.
Our Government is just like any other.
Wait until it's necessary to fix.
tdlobib 1 year ago
@tdlobib It's better for avoiding to kill hundreds of lives. Choose, money, or a person's life?
KHQMaster 1 year ago
i wonder how those tall towers didnt take even a crack
MojtabaParsa2000 1 year ago
does the land really move like that??
horrible
mkron99 1 year ago
@mkron99
It can :l.
CrossingAssociation 1 year ago
OMG yur animation is amazing!
BrianFetcher 1 year ago
Akward shaking in the beginning there...
pendejadafcc 1 year ago
It shouldn't be torn down. It should be shipped to Alaska for their bridge to nowhere.
pigenital 1 year ago
I like the pointers and comments. Very helpful. The damage depicted here is only minimal - what if other buildings fall, or if there is a tsunami. I doubt those sections of the viaduct would just pancake like that. The bridge in Cali fell toppled over on its' side.
eboneetigress 2 years ago
i love this video. would be cooler with some voice over.
platypusrex256 2 years ago
that city remind me sanandress
Roadmaster619 2 years ago
this would be cool to watch without the stupid pointers and notes on the right.
mechwarreir2 2 years ago 58
@mechwarreir2 except it's meant to be informative, not "cool"
mastercko 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@mechwarreir2
because your mother.
DKM101 1 year ago
@mechwarreir2 Uh, this was made to POINT out what will happen if Seattle does NOT replace the viaduct. It will be more cool if this doesn't happen.
KHQMaster 1 year ago
That was the longest earthquake ever. Plus, after the road collapse in Cali, I don't have faith in any double-decker road in an earthquake hot zone.
JAScott2008 2 years ago 2
then I suggest you dont use the bay bridge in san fran...
newchihuahua 2 years ago 3
@JAScott2008 That earthquake in the simulation was only 1 min. The whole video was 6min because it allowed time to stop the simulation to show the damage and what actually would occure.
bubblez545yahoo 2 years ago
I think they say at the beginning that the earthquake itself was 40 secs. Either way, it's a really long one.
And to newchihuahua, my mother has forbidden me from ever taking that bridge :D
JAScott2008 2 years ago
wow, but those tall buildings survived.
rax7 2 years ago 4
They'd better survive. The tallest buildings should have been built with the consideration of earthquakes.
tudorjason 2 years ago 3
Just goes to show how little the public knows in what's best for the city. Sure, let's reject BOTH OPTIONS when brought to a vote. This video shows that SOMETHING has to happen, and another raised viaduct is not the solution.
eskercurve 2 years ago
You'll never see me on that side of the city, not until they fix it. No way, Jose.
artsylovelylady 2 years ago
Back in the 1990's we lived in Federal Way when an earthquake hit. The epicenter was under Vashon. It knocked us to our knees and it sounded like the people in the apartment above us were jumping up and down on their floor. Big booms. We couldn't even stand up while it was happening. Scariest thing I've been through.
PinkLederhosen 2 years ago
haha i live in the south puget sound and we got fuckin owned in the 2001 earthquake haha! it was the craziest thing i have ever felt and seen here! ha
jake040604 2 years ago
hahaha it would have been funny if when u zoom out, a nuke kills the hole city
Replay54321 2 years ago
@Replay54321 HAHA! It's so funny when thousands of lives are killed in a city right? HAHA (sarcasm)
KHQMaster 1 year ago
@KHQMaster so you decided to reply to somthing that was 11 months old ... that wasnt the smatrest idea
Replay54321 1 year ago
What? No tsunami to follow up?
Lunariouse 2 years ago 3
this kind of looked like the Earthquake in the 2012 movie
K3vinDS 2 years ago 3
NO TUNNEL NO TUNNEL NO TUNNEL! I'd rather be on top of the ground rather than a stupid pipe underground.... your simulation showed pipes bursting... why wouldn't the tunnel? Idiots.
oneawkwardgirl 2 years ago 2
I was totally against the tunnel idea. What this video needs is less pauses (or none at all would make it look less government-y) and a good soundtrack with great music and a killer voiceover announcer. We want something (or nothing) to replace the viaduct we know bad things will happen if we dont. waste of $?
Interst890 2 years ago 2
@Interst890 Oh so you would rather let people die than "waste" money on something that will save lives.
KHQMaster 1 year ago
@KHQMaster well, i would've supported a street-level highway or a new elevated highway instead of a measly 2-lane tunnel that could cause just as catastrphic results (for drivers) in a considerable-mangitude earthquake as the failing viaduct. plus the tunnel has had tons of co$t over-runs.
Interst890 1 year ago
@Interst890 oh sorry bout. that :D
Yeah. It'll be pointless to make a bore tunnel.
KHQMaster 1 year ago
$80,000 here $500,000 here, pretty soon it all adds up to real money. Government keeps taking a bigger and bigger bite out of the economy and the citizen keeps getting less. Consider that in the Rosselini Era of the late 50's and early 60's the state buil more roads and highways than in the 40+ years since combined, all with a nominal sales tax increase of less than 1% a toll that expired. Now we just pay and pay without any end in site. 10% + effective sales tax is a huge burden.
syrnix1976 2 years ago 2
actually, taxes are good. the people that dont want to pay taxes are bumb. higher taxes for better schools, free health care, better transportation and green technology. just look at sweden! paying 40%+ tax and they're the happiest nation on earth. and while it might not work in the entire nation (300+ million is hard to keep track of), it can work in a state, and it has worked in WA for many years. we shouldnt be worrying about our selfish needs, instead we should worry about a better world.
Aleks0o01 2 years ago
Unfortunately Seattle has to be one of the stupidest cities as regards to its overall planning. They built this city so poorly as if they never knew it was built on a fualt line. To top if off the underground is completely hollow which will probably collapes during a major quake. You can look at the the way the freeways were built and how they ingored mass transit and not be suprised that they never took into account making Seattle Earthquake ready. It's going to be bad when the big one hits.
wazzuhell 2 years ago
this is what happens when you build a city on ROCK AND ROLL!
mymindisweird 2 years ago 32
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But I thought Seattle was built on crappy new age start up music and Chinese slave labor...
ShotgunAFlyboy 2 years ago
Nah, actually Seattle used to be Las Vegas before before Las Vegas was ever really... Las Vegas. HELL YEAH, WA STATE HISTORY WAS USEFUL FOR ONCE!
mymindisweird 2 years ago
@mymindisweird heh, I bought a t-shirt for my (structural engineer) brother for his birthday once that says "A city built on Rock and Roll would be structurally unsound!"
mastercko 1 year ago
put more fear out there, this would have happend the day after it was built i know where this is going its propaganda , the people most worried about it are the the one's that dont use it ,they should get a life .
67ventura 2 years ago
Great work on the computer simulations. Seems it would make the point that the structures either need retrofitting,rebuilding and/or relocating.Engineers learned so much from San Fran last time. Not a question of if it will happen,just when...
MagoosShoes 2 years ago
so story of the day is...when an earthquake is inbound...everything is fucked no matter what you do
setarcos4131 2 years ago
I have a sudden urge to play SimCity.
ProJanitor 2 years ago 2
Wait a min, Seattle washington has earthquakes?
Im not sure of this, can someone enlighten me?
XxXWAKEXxX 2 years ago
I was in Federal Way, and yes it has earthquakes.
lowellriggsiam 2 years ago
Are you serious? Do you know what techtonic plates are? We live on the edge of one!
jdspunkd 2 years ago 3
That is a good one, haha.
AgentHog 2 years ago
The lucky blue car....
srayjohn 2 years ago
Should have named it "The Economy Way Viaduct". Sub-Contracted to AIG.
I think Alaskans should force them to change the name.
akracer1 2 years ago
This is a way to open your eyes to what COULD happen, not definately WOULD happen. It is IMPOSSIBLE to know for sure.
jdspunkd 2 years ago
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tybeefyboy 2 years ago
Spent all that money on retro-fitting years ago and look what would happen; wasted the tax payers dollars. Is it true or a scare tactic to get people on board with the project to spend more tax payers money? Just never know who to believe when it comes to government and spending your money. How much did they spend on this great movie?
utubewatcher100 2 years ago
It took $80,000 to make that movie.
jdspunkd 2 years ago
Yeah and how much water cooler money to show it around? This is more than twice what the average person makes in Seattle. I am guessing that they have at least $500,000 or more budgeted for this animation. Just to sell the public something they are going to do anyway whether they like it or not. That is my point! I am guessing you work for the city and that is why you probably may like this animation.
utubewatcher100 2 years ago
I do not work for the city. I think the animation is pointless and a waste of tax dollars. But I do agree that the vaiduct needs to be replaced with a tunnel. It will bring jobs to seattle and lets face it, its not going to make much of an impact on your individual taxes you pay.
jdspunkd 2 years ago
Amen the animation is pointless and is just being used to sell the public on something they plan on doing anyway. Yes it is probably something that needs to be done but as usual just as you can see the way they use the tax dollars is my point. To say its not going to make much of an impact on your individual taxes you pay is my concern as to how they spend it impacts your individual taxes we all pay.
utubewatcher100 2 years ago
How do you figure it will bring jobs to Seattle? Once the construction is done, the tunnel will carry far fewer vehicles than the viaduct does now, and leave Washington with yet another economy crushing debt.
An entire new bridge would cost a fraction of the Big Dig, carry MORE THAN BEFORE, be built in a fraction of the time, and be infinately safer.
The DOT already has plans for it, but a short list of swells (elites) want a better view of Elliott Bay, while WE THE PEOPLE PAY FOR IT!
4woodenboats 2 years ago
If the bridge falls down, you'll still have to pay for it. In fact, it'll cost more because the state will have to pay for the clean up costs and property damage. A land bridge in the city has to fall onto something. Plus there will be loss of life and limb. Hospitals tabs would run for months. With that kind of damage, insurance companies couldn't handle it alone. We're talking tens of billions of dollars in damage vs. a fraction of that to build a tunnel.
artsylovelylady 2 years ago
@4woodenboats Choose, money or a person's life?
KHQMaster 1 year ago