cool that you "found" yourself and this "non-theistic" god, but if God is everything and isnt something we see, touch, talk to, test, or verify outside of the actual thing we are viewing then whats the difference of him being there at all. I mean if God is love why not cross out God and say that Love is Love. or if a plant is god why not just say plant is a plant?
seems like your just adding a step and calling it God if you ask me.
@Evid3nc3 FFS yo, your story played out like a final fantasy...(Mebbe it was just the music doing it though.) Seriously deep stuff. It seems like the reality of illusion hit you square in the face like Omega Dragon. I suggest, if you have not already, gone into more historical research in mythology with special concern to those known as the 'Annunaki', to see how all the stories inter-correlate.
although i still like the series very much, i am beginning to doubt how much of it is true.
maybe there was no insanity following your deconvrsion. maybe there were no thoughts that christianity is the opposite of what it claims to be. maybe there was no professor at all to begin with.
but damn me this is still a very good, very thought-provoking AND well made series.
PanEnTheism = Diesm + Pantheism..... Wisdom = Truth + Beauty
Wow, I really love your appearance! You also have an amazing voice! You should consider a career in this! ...Science or philosophy videos! I could listen to you lecture all day. Your voice is like smooth honey! Dudecrush...Thank you for sharing.....
Kind of makes me wish I had a tale as animated as this. I never went through such an internal struggle. For me as a kid, the Bible stories always just kind of felt like fairy tales. I never questioned my Sunday school teacher, yet I still subconsciously put Moses, Noah, and Adam & Eve in their own box in my mind separate from reality. As I grew up, I dismissed them entirely without even knowing it. Today, I don't think I was ever even a Christian to begin with.
@borissman Yes, though atheism is the eventuality. Pantheism is just a neat metaphorical security blanket for some of us until we can kick those training wheels off and accept things as they just are.
@alphaenemy Brother i thank you for helping me discover a new concept, the concept of Pantheism after googling it and watching some videos on youtube seems to be what i have been searching for, it best explains the viewpoint i am beginning to reach
@MrJeffFort Well, I don't endorse Pantheism, but I can appreciate it a hell of a lot more than Christianity. To me, it works as a metaphor, as in reality and everything is an expression of the "divine", but then again, the "divine" still needs to be explained. Einstein was kind of a Pantheist, I think. It discards the need for ancient scripture to mold a worldview, and allows the individual to think for himself, at least, so it relates to free thought much better.
Holy crap, pantheism is EXACTLY what I went to after my time as a Christian was over. I didn't beleive in Christianity nearly as heavily as you did, since my parents weren't very religious (though still believed in God), but man, I was really stuck at that pantheist stage. I thought there was this one God, and we all interpreted him differently, which is why we have all these religions. I'm really interested to see the next parts of this series. Thank you so much for sharing this journey.
@ChaoticReverie1 I still believe in pantheism, The Atheist view of the world does not require conscious beings but since the universe does have conscious beings its safe to say there are higher advance beings and lower and we might be on the lower variety so Pantheism it is
@MrJeffFort Woah, your username is the exact same as one of my professor's, lol. Anyway, yeah I don't believe in pantheism anymore, for me it was like a residual belief I clung to after giving up Christianity. It's cool if you do though. Personally I tend to agree with alphaenemy.
@MrJeffFort What on earth are you talking about? The atheistic view of the world doesn't require rocks either. Does that mean it's safe to say that if the universe was composed of a single rock, then there would still exist bigger rocks and smaller rocks? Your logic seems to be horribly flawed. Conscious beings is evidence of those conscious beings, not of entirely different beings, higher or lower.
@MrJeffFort It's also worth mentioning that human agents possessing the property consciousness is not evidence of the universe as a whole possessing the property consciousness any more than a ball possessing the property roundness is evidence that the universe as a whole is round. Such faulty reasoning is called a part/whole fallacy.
hahaha, nice use of one winged angel! Love the series. I too was once a christian, but I was never as thoughtful as you. This series only makes me feel better and happier with my decision to see the truth.
I'm not gonna lie bro, that was pretty funny when you said you thought you were Jesus. I get how that happens, having spoken to Christians pretty extensively, and how their minds might think strange things if things went downhill. But damn man, thats funny.
This segment made me burst into tears. I hadn't found a more succinct, eloquent way of explaining my "spiritual" views. I ran into nearly identical struggles (minus the whole messiah complex following), particularly that of finding horror in the eyes of my neighbors. I felt very alone, but in a way it also helped me discover that when it comes to my own spirit... I'm on my own. I had to make my own decisions and forge new meaning on the corpse of my old worldview.
The most relevant part of this section of this excellent video series is that "it is impossible for truth not to exist" . . . and truth becomes master and ultimate judge of gods. Christianity does not think along those lines. It DARE not, in fact, because it is dangerous to their bottom line, . . . bodies in the seats.
OMG I really laughed out loud when you said you were Jesus. My roommate is looking at me weirdly. I've been and gone through this a few time with minimal drama because I myself was never really religious. The time parents did take me to church I had really great naps. I use to believe in God the way magic fascinates most kids.
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im a satanist who found the truth lol this is very awesome it has some truth but hides the rest if your like me and you need scientific proof ill send you a link if you need historic proof ill send you a link you seeking a god i have everything you need to find the truth the real truth humans have..... facebook tyler joshua seto
@Whattchamacallit There are two types of Satanists: the one you talk of, and the other uses Satan as a symbol of the individual's power... er, a type of mentality, not sure I'm explaining that right...
i'm not hatin on your deconversion but if you were I true Christian like you said you were in the first episode then you would not have come to the conclusion that God might not exist. this is what true faith is. Also, if one absolutely believes that God exists, then one believes that God determines the truth. Therefore, God would be truth's master. Just a thought.
@laz0rer What created god? nothing? how convenient...... Did god create himself? if that was possible why couldnt the universe have created itself?.... try and open your mind past the falicy of faith...
continued. My ethics background from years ago, seems to indicate Christian conversionists come from an argument of ignorance. Very few Christians that try to convert me know the Bible at all, yet believe none the less. I try to be kind, but what concerns me is the Theist necessity to be a politician. Either they believe they believe, or they are liars trying to get the religious vote, which is the majority. Know you are not alone, as contrary to Bush's statement, there are many caring Atheists
fantastic series, I deeply appreciated the brutal honesty. the confusion between god/jesus and the self is not so far fetched....apparently brain imaging of theists relating what god is telling them he wants of them, lights up in the same brain centres as when they are stating their own wants/desires. this is very revealing when we consider the conviction that non believers go to hell..
Don't you understand What god did for you? Of course you Will say that you are the son. Because the son is in the background. Ge died so he could give you his spirit. You are the temple of Jesus.
Ok through this hole thing you have had me intersted and thought profound. WIth your deconversion. But really Jesus? The mind is a terrible thing to waste. haha Naw that's a joke. Crazy the tricks we can play within are own minds, when the frontlines of loigical is charging at it.
@outoftimeonpandora I actually had a very similar experience. It was very unique feeling. I didn't think I was literally Jesus, but I thought that I could serve as a Jesus-like role in this world. I would go out and show the world the kind of love that can be had. I would generate followers (aka disciples) and hopefully not get killed in the process. I don't remember if I thought this way in the name of God or if it was after I had determined that a god didn't exist though.
@outoftimeonpandora Ah ha ha ha, same here - Evid3nc3, kudos for not shying away from telling us about this part of your journey. I hope we get to hear about those 4 interesting days some time!
How dare you, You who are evil. Who are you to say this lie. You need to stop deceiving people; you devil. This is not the truth, God who is my father is truth unless you repent and give your life to Christ. God's wrath and judgement still abides on you. My wife says The blood of Jesus is against you. You father of Lies thats all you know how to do is lie. Repent! for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand. You still to live. Live or die make your choice!
So I want to ask you, although you stopped believing that you were the second coming of Christ, do you still believe the other points you made in the video? As far as what you were saying about the theistic god being a dark force/Satan? Or did those ideas leave you when the idea of being the second coming left you as well.
You thought you were Jesus! We're very much alike, in that I sometimes feel like I'm a powerless god. Knowing of the ills of society but unable to fix them.
I find it interesting that you thought you were Jesus. Before watching this video, i believed that I was the anti-Christ since I believe that God is the universe. I still go to a Christian church, but that is only to spend time with my uncle and grandmother. After I get baptized, i'm putting an end to my Christian self and pursuing Pantheism.
@MrVirtualCoder Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is not a belief system, as atheism is the rejection of belief. Atheism has no beliefs, no doctrines, and no world views. Atheism has no cultural or historical foundation. It is merely a rejection of the idea that a supernatural being exists, which is the foundation of all religions.
Theism is the belief that a god exists. Atheism is the non-belief of a god. Neither is a religion.
You made Yahweh look like an extremely scary dark circular Eldritch abomination with all the music and the black text. And the new interpretation of Revelation.
@2gointruth That is where you are wrong. Christ did not utter much truths. he was just as ignorant as his fellow men. There is more truth is the words of philosophers then in the words of mad preacher.
THIS... was heavy! You thought you were the reincarnation of jesus? when i realized i was no longer a christian what bother me was hell. I knew that if god did not exist neither would hell but i was irrationally afraid of it for some time. This let me realize of the harms of religion. I told ProfMTH about it and he told me that it was normal for some people. It eventually disappear. I think that was as irrational as i got. Never thought i was jesus, but thanks for sharing.It shows your honesty.
@vision4DaY as Evid3nc3 says in the video, truth is more important. for me to become an atheist it took realizing that even if I am sent to hell for being honest, that would be infinitely noble. it's more likely though that the universe is not run by such a cruel sadistic vengeful maniac.
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Actually, it already is. Quantum fluctuations explain the origin of the universe, and Stanley Miller showed how abiogenesis (life coming from non-life) can happen.
True may seem relative on times. Two opposite concepts could be logically true, and still contradict each other.
The bible teaches that all the adults who exited Egipt died in the desert, except Joshua and Caleb. So, they were right! But, the true is that they did not have to die. Their children, the most likely to die, survived and inherited the land.
Now I think that I got it. Your atheist friend gave you a bunch of books to read, all written by atheists, and you read them. And you became an atheist! Wow. That is George W Bush's law to a T. Now, will your atheist world crumble if you found out that several of those books actually had five authors and the author on the publication page was not the author? So you can toss out their arguments?
This guy is an idiot. People are stupid. Who are you? You're a mere human being who thinks you know science. Tell me this knowitall...how did humans form? How did Earth form? Why do humans feel emotions? How is it that Earth is perfectly made? The air is right, the water sustains life. Explosion? Yeah right? Mere chance? If you read the Bible, Jesus came along and changed the world forever. God is loving and cares for you. God saves people. We aren't worthy but he saves
@houshmenzadeh15 You can answer these questions,If you really wanted to.But you prefer the simple and meaningless explanation "god","I dont know how it happened so it must be god,because this book says so"
I have to admit that for a while I also thought maybe I could be Jesus, too. OK, I was only 7 or 8 at the time, but there were weird moments where I either felt special, or that I felt rotten and needed an out, but either way, I felt that later in life it would become clear that I was special and I would find out I was Jesus, and then I would die before the age of 32. Where do kids get such crazy ideas, and why do they need them, even for a little while?
Your path follows a VERY similar one to my own. I remember when I discovered the word "pantheist" my heart leapt with joy, as THAT was exactly what felt right after the lie that was xianity. I, too, valued truth over god. I now identify as atheist, too. I'm thoroughly enjoying this series, thanks for taking the time to make it.
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions tons of Earth soil)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that undirected natural laws can bring about an airplane or a living cell. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all its is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless
my journey to atheism was a much smoother path , yet something in the back of my mind keeps me wondering if there is some kind of supreme being, or if this universe itself is a being of its own . but then i start to think that this god concept has been integrated into our dna somehow through the generations
@1robon I apostated from Islam in the summer, I understand what you mean. Mind control is insidious, and I guess growing up and being taken to sunday school and church from a young age didn't help. One of my earliest and deeply imprinted memories is of the preacher shouting at the congregation about the terrible wrath of almighty God, emotionally it was a very deep imprint. I'm still interested in near death experiences, Graham Hancock and Rick Strassman, but I'm an atheist.
I do wonder, and i might have asked this on another video, but what do people think when they hear of science of say... global warming? if you believe in it or not, my question is, have you seen the reports? have you personally ever looked at the facts and figured, read the scientific journals on it? if not, then what evidence do you have? you have only what you heard, and that is nothing more than what evidence there is for God. So logically, why one but not the other?
@bluefootedpig Your answer to ignorance is further ignorance, taking advantage of the fact that nobody can know every detail of everything they accept as truth. The answer is to think logically. I believe the science of global warming despite my rudimentary knowledge of it because I know that thousands of independent, qualified scientists around the world study and come to the same general conclusions, and despite many interested parties no one can come forward to disprove it.
@MrG0dbar See, you proved my point. There is a large body that debates this, that does not believe it. Many of those in said group are also listed on the global warming side. The head body of research, keeps their names on it because they "once" believe it. But now that they actively reject it, they cannot get their names removed. But you prove the point, there is a huge debate on it, and yet you believe it is happening. So you are taking knowledge at face value instead of looking into it.
@bluefootedpig Good point. In many areas in life we have to rely on other people who have taken the time to look at and interpret the evidence, be that your personal physician or a climate scientist, and that is the bigger point, that there is evidence to look at and interpret.
@Prelude610 So now, could it be said that if you trust a person in a book to conduct a study or experiment honestly, that perhaps a pastor or religious person would relate experiences that they have had, and believe (even if wrong) that their truth is just as much truth as a scientist (who may also be wrong)? I guess it comes down to what is evidence. So the question is how do you define evidence. A farmer, while not knowing the science, will see crop failure and the reason why before science.
@bluefootedpig Good question, standards of evidence. In some fields of science the standards are tighter than others, because they can be, or must be. Those with lower standards understand what that means. But to clarify, a testimonial is not evidence. A testimonial is something a person can say. Evidence is something someone can show.
@Prelude610 "evidence is something someone can show" very true, but how many people ask for the evidence? How many people who believe in global warming (regardless if it is true or not) have asked to look at the actual numbers? Most tend to just listen to their news that they choose and believe it. So even if you are saying "global warming is happening!" that is just a testimony of what they have seen and believe. For all most believers know, the data doesn't exist, for they never have looked.
@Prelude610 "evidence is something someone can show" very true, but how many people ask for the evidence? How many people who believe in global warming (regardless if it is true or not) have asked to look at the actual numbers? Most tend to just listen to their news that they choose and believe it. So even if you are saying "global warming is happening!" that is just a testimony of what they have seen and believe. For all most believers know, the data doesn't exist, for they never have looked.
@bluefootedpig - We can't all go to the evidence on everything. At some point we have to go with what people who have evaluated the evidence have to say, be that a climate scientist of your doctor. But, these are evidence-based positions these people take. They aren't faith-based, although provisional trust, not faith, has been given to these experts. Religion, on the other hand, and in the best cases, is an attempt to deal with the big questions. At one time it may have been ...
@Prelude610 "at some point we have to go with what people who have evaluated the evidence say"... but that is the question. How far removed is it. My professor learned from his professors, who most likely got most of his ideas from a book, or other professor. How many times removed can someone be and have it still be correct? I know no climent experts personally, and if I get my info from school, odds are they don't know anyone personally either.
@bluefootedpig How do you know how to verify your knowledge? Repeat the experiments that were the basis of the claim which is elevated to knowledge after critically examining the underpinning of logic behind making that claim. If it still doesn't add up try to come up with a better explanation and test for the evidence that would make it true. Afterwords present it to the scientific community for review. That's how science grows more accurate not a limiting factor.
@hockeater yeah, but how many people perform the tests. Tell me, how many experiments have you personally done on plate tetonics and how many on vacines? odds are you haven't done both. So at that point, you are relying on society, which we have seen many times over corruption. DTD ring a bell? did you know it cures polio, or so all the research said at the time. Turns out it causes problems, yes we have advanced beyond that, but what makes you think what we do now is any better?
@bluefootedpig The plates are moving. I've visited the grand canyon twice and performed the measurements on the known uplift event twice and both results came up as expected. As for volcanoes what do you want verified? There's a wide variety of experiments you can do from the comforts of your house to confirm the basic principles of physics as they apply to volcanoes.
@hockeater I said vacines. Not volacanoes. The point of the two fairly unrelated topics is while someone like yourself might be interested in plate tetonics, would unlikely be willing to also test medicine. So one area of your life is governed by professionals and not yourself, and thus your mind must make judgements on how trustworthy it is.
@hockeater Thanks for proving my point. Since the age of about 10, i stopped getting the flu vacine. I have never gotten the flu since then. a flu to me is a very distant memory. My wife, whom I personally know has not gotten the flu vacine for 10 years, also never got it, even when our little town got hit by a flu virus (by town, i mean a very small town). So you just pointed out how without vaccines, you still don't get the flu.
@bluefootedpig Actually the vaccine is to prevent you from getting certain strands as they appear rather than every disease strain ever. This would be why new shots are needed. Maybe your town simply got hit by an older strain or one you'd already built a strong immunity from with past case of the flu. All a vaccine is is the declawed version of a virus. It stimulates your immune system and builds immunity without bringing in symptoms.
@hockeater Maybe you missed the several comments, but unless you have specifically ran the tests, you are trust that what they are producing as a flu vaccine does its job. Like for emergencies, the US has millions worth of flu pills, which have only been shown about 60% of the lab work done, the other 40% has been hidden. But unless you specifically are doing the testing, then you really don't know. I am not trying to say plate tetonics or vaccines don't work, only you don't know.
@bluefootedpig I get vaccinated regularly and I don't get flu. This proves the test in itself. If I were vaccinated and did get the flu you'd have a point. In your case the fact that you don't get flu is merely a testament to small town living where you aren't jam packed into tight crowds where disease spreads easily or possibly the other factors I mentioned. The fact that other things can do what x does doesn't invalidate that x regularly does those things.
@hockeater I am not even sure how to address this... that logic is horrible flawed. Are you saying that because I eat an orange every day, terrorist aren't attacking america? Since 9/11, i have eatten an orange every day to ward off the terrorist, and since then they haven't attack! That is about your logic. You get vaccinated, and don't get the disease, but who says you would get it anyway? It actually doesn't prove anything, even remotely. Nor does it even address the original argument.
@bluefootedpig Are you joking? Terrorists named fox news attack everything America was originally built to stand for with threats and polarizing stories almost constantly. Clearly your oranges are ineffective! Maybe try bananas. You wanna get silly we can get silly while still logically disproving every point you try to make.
@hockeater No, you haven't, not even in the least. You said you do X and it prevents Y, and therefore that is evidence. I never claimed my oranges stopped fox news, I said the 9/11 terrorists. Al-quada has yet to attack another skyscrapper. You claimed you took a vaccine and didn't get sick, therefore it worked. That is just as valid evidence as my eating an orange prevented terrorism from happening again.
@bluefootedpig More specific terrorism? Someone didn't follow the mail bombings that while less serious still claimed lives. Again try bananas! Oh wait their leader is dead so this is a moot point before you even test never mind.
@bluefootedpig - ... mankind's best effort, but actual evidence has invalidated the claims of most of all religions.
BTW, there is no reason to "believe in" global warming, or "believe in" evolution, or "believe in" gravity. Your use of the "believe in" phrase seems to be saying something important about how you approach such things. Same goes for your use of the word "truth" in the earlier post. Not flaming, just noting.
@Prelude610 My use of believe in, and truth is all realitive, that might be what you are picking up on. I use them as it is a term that most people often feel. It is difficult, at least from my position. It is amazing how many atheists for instance will say that relgion has been proven wrong. It is a sub culture and I often try to communicate on that level. I believe in very little, and my faith in the system is lacking, namely due to the immature nature of the scientific method.
@bluefootedpig Another problem here, declaring something a "truth". Science does not deal in truth. It is all about providing the best possible explanation of the facts, per the evidence. But science is ruthless when it comes to errors and particularly lies, which is why you see so many science-oriented folks going after religion and similar nonsense. Not that such nonsense does not have value in people's lives. But keep in mind, Santa Clause is fictional.
@bluefootedpig Another problem here, declaring something a "truth". Science does not deal in truth. It is all about providing the best possible explanation of the facts, per the evidence. But science is ruthless when it comes to errors and particularly lies, which is why you see so many science-oriented folks going after religion and similar nonsense. Not that such nonsense does not have value in people's lives. But keep in mind, Santa Clause is fictional.
@bluefootedpig - I think the "truth" you are referring to is a person's take on a situation, declaring it a "truth", not because they can prove it, but because that's how they have decided to interpret something.
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cool that you "found" yourself and this "non-theistic" god, but if God is everything and isnt something we see, touch, talk to, test, or verify outside of the actual thing we are viewing then whats the difference of him being there at all. I mean if God is love why not cross out God and say that Love is Love. or if a plant is god why not just say plant is a plant?
seems like your just adding a step and calling it God if you ask me.
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1987RyanJ 4 days ago
@Evid3nc3 FFS yo, your story played out like a final fantasy...(Mebbe it was just the music doing it though.) Seriously deep stuff. It seems like the reality of illusion hit you square in the face like Omega Dragon. I suggest, if you have not already, gone into more historical research in mythology with special concern to those known as the 'Annunaki', to see how all the stories inter-correlate.
LazyOtaku 6 days ago
Wow you really went on a wild trip mine wasn't like that maybe because i was way less religious than you were
freestinje 6 days ago
although i still like the series very much, i am beginning to doubt how much of it is true.
maybe there was no insanity following your deconvrsion. maybe there were no thoughts that christianity is the opposite of what it claims to be. maybe there was no professor at all to begin with.
but damn me this is still a very good, very thought-provoking AND well made series.
cheers :)
bozaki87 1 week ago
"Then that made me...Jesus". Damn, I wish I made that trip.
vjott 1 week ago
I must admire your honesty. My own deconversion was a much more gradual process and so that's probably how I avoided any insanity.
JapaneseStudentSan 2 weeks ago
Does losing faith really cause temporary insanity? I'm glad I never really had faith, then!
Inflatonable 2 weeks ago
@Inflatonable It is very frightening, and saddening. I'll admit I was scared.
Wanted797 1 week ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
P^n= D + P.... or
PanEnTheism = Diesm + Pantheism..... Wisdom = Truth + Beauty
Wow, I really love your appearance! You also have an amazing voice! You should consider a career in this! ...Science or philosophy videos! I could listen to you lecture all day. Your voice is like smooth honey! Dudecrush...Thank you for sharing.....
adamrocketblack 2 weeks ago
Hmm...Truly, to sum this up. Deception=logic, reason, and confusion...Truth=God, wisdom, and peace....End of the story.
Speakwisely1st 3 weeks ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
I can't say that my struggle was this intense, but this video expresses my feelings very well.
abbienarutogirl 4 weeks ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
Damn, you really went on a trip!
Kind of makes me wish I had a tale as animated as this. I never went through such an internal struggle. For me as a kid, the Bible stories always just kind of felt like fairy tales. I never questioned my Sunday school teacher, yet I still subconsciously put Moses, Noah, and Adam & Eve in their own box in my mind separate from reality. As I grew up, I dismissed them entirely without even knowing it. Today, I don't think I was ever even a Christian to begin with.
FrankLightheart 1 month ago
pantheism looks better than theism... i'm happy for you ^^
borissman 1 month ago
@borissman Yes, though atheism is the eventuality. Pantheism is just a neat metaphorical security blanket for some of us until we can kick those training wheels off and accept things as they just are.
alphaenemy 1 week ago
@alphaenemy Brother i thank you for helping me discover a new concept, the concept of Pantheism after googling it and watching some videos on youtube seems to be what i have been searching for, it best explains the viewpoint i am beginning to reach
MrJeffFort 1 week ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
@MrJeffFort Well, I don't endorse Pantheism, but I can appreciate it a hell of a lot more than Christianity. To me, it works as a metaphor, as in reality and everything is an expression of the "divine", but then again, the "divine" still needs to be explained. Einstein was kind of a Pantheist, I think. It discards the need for ancient scripture to mold a worldview, and allows the individual to think for himself, at least, so it relates to free thought much better.
alphaenemy 1 week ago
@MrJeffFort I also think you were trying to address the guy that made the video, maybe. I'm definitely an agnostic/atheist/humanist.
alphaenemy 1 week ago
Beautiful and amazing video.
CommanderFey 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
What university and which professor are you referring to in this video? I wish I had met him/her. He/she seems very wise.
MeanKno 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
Lmao...you thought you was Jesus? Niiiiiiiice
MeanKno 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
Holy crap, pantheism is EXACTLY what I went to after my time as a Christian was over. I didn't beleive in Christianity nearly as heavily as you did, since my parents weren't very religious (though still believed in God), but man, I was really stuck at that pantheist stage. I thought there was this one God, and we all interpreted him differently, which is why we have all these religions. I'm really interested to see the next parts of this series. Thank you so much for sharing this journey.
ChaoticReverie1 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
@ChaoticReverie1 I still believe in pantheism, The Atheist view of the world does not require conscious beings but since the universe does have conscious beings its safe to say there are higher advance beings and lower and we might be on the lower variety so Pantheism it is
MrJeffFort 1 week ago
@MrJeffFort Woah, your username is the exact same as one of my professor's, lol. Anyway, yeah I don't believe in pantheism anymore, for me it was like a residual belief I clung to after giving up Christianity. It's cool if you do though. Personally I tend to agree with alphaenemy.
ChaoticReverie1 1 week ago
@MrJeffFort What on earth are you talking about? The atheistic view of the world doesn't require rocks either. Does that mean it's safe to say that if the universe was composed of a single rock, then there would still exist bigger rocks and smaller rocks? Your logic seems to be horribly flawed. Conscious beings is evidence of those conscious beings, not of entirely different beings, higher or lower.
Gnomefro 6 days ago
@MrJeffFort It's also worth mentioning that human agents possessing the property consciousness is not evidence of the universe as a whole possessing the property consciousness any more than a ball possessing the property roundness is evidence that the universe as a whole is round. Such faulty reasoning is called a part/whole fallacy.
Gnomefro 6 days ago
nice choice of music.
zsefvgyjmk0 1 month ago
OH MY GOD The music is from the assassination of Jessie James! I love that movie!! I thought I was the only one who bought the soundtrack. Lol
paraplegicgiraffe 1 month ago
hahaha, nice use of one winged angel! Love the series. I too was once a christian, but I was never as thoughtful as you. This series only makes me feel better and happier with my decision to see the truth.
solidsnakeliquidgas 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
Pretty arrogant to project yourself to be Jesus considering your own context of this video.
Don't try to raise yourself above your own followers; that's the same mistake religious figures are making today.
Instead, I would have gone with Lucifer as Jesus, the Morning Star of the Natural World (i.e. - the real God), and the theistic god as The Devil.
FrozenSpector 1 month ago
I'm not gonna lie bro, that was pretty funny when you said you thought you were Jesus. I get how that happens, having spoken to Christians pretty extensively, and how their minds might think strange things if things went downhill. But damn man, thats funny.
Lanparth 1 month ago
This segment made me burst into tears. I hadn't found a more succinct, eloquent way of explaining my "spiritual" views. I ran into nearly identical struggles (minus the whole messiah complex following), particularly that of finding horror in the eyes of my neighbors. I felt very alone, but in a way it also helped me discover that when it comes to my own spirit... I'm on my own. I had to make my own decisions and forge new meaning on the corpse of my old worldview.
beautiful writing. congrats!
ZOMGHALP 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
I am LOVING one winged angel as the song of choice....Viva la FFVII
Nshelton5683 1 month ago
This is one of the most amazing stories I have yet heard!
It has been really helpful to me.
I actually laughed out loud at the "I'm Jesus" part. Hehehe.
Thekentuckyrebel 1 month ago
The most relevant part of this section of this excellent video series is that "it is impossible for truth not to exist" . . . and truth becomes master and ultimate judge of gods. Christianity does not think along those lines. It DARE not, in fact, because it is dangerous to their bottom line, . . . bodies in the seats.
DeavonReye 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
I said HOLY FUCKING SHIT! when you said you were jesus! AND YOU ARE AN ATHEIST NOW!
TacticalSerenity17 1 month ago
At the "Jesus" part, I laughed my ass off thinking of drugs trips and Lil B, the Based God.
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OMG I really laughed out loud when you said you were Jesus. My roommate is looking at me weirdly. I've been and gone through this a few time with minimal drama because I myself was never really religious. The time parents did take me to church I had really great naps. I use to believe in God the way magic fascinates most kids.
MelloDees 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian 3
the music is from the matrix right? It's when neo is undergoing repairs and sleep after his first moments after waking up in the real world, right?
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 month ago
Man, I wish I had an epic proffessor :/
slythoughts 1 month ago
FF7 one winged angel......AWESOME
melikeit23 1 month ago 4
"...I am Jesus." Love it xD
DrMahlek 1 month ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
Love these series!!! Thank you for your honesty and clarity. I recently went through a very similar journey with Islam!
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I love how you used "One Winged Angel" from Final Fantasy. It fit perfectly and I just couldn't help but laugh a bit.
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JezusSlave 2 months ago
I was born an atheist and in my country that's a normal thing.
After hearing your story I understand so much more how some one can wrestle with his faith and not letting go.
Thank you for sharing this.
Respect for you and how you came to where you are now.
TheEricthunder 2 months ago 13
im a satanist who found the truth lol this is very awesome it has some truth but hides the rest if your like me and you need scientific proof ill send you a link if you need historic proof ill send you a link you seeking a god i have everything you need to find the truth the real truth humans have..... facebook tyler joshua seto
satan2metal 2 months ago
@satan2metal believing in satan is just like believing in any other god, illogical
Whattchamacallit 2 months ago
@Whattchamacallit lol yeah and who says i am worshiping a satan of any kind? i hate people who assume shit
satan2metal 2 months ago
@Whattchamacallit look if you want to know more facebook me my oppinion is more logical then anything you know lol
satan2metal 2 months ago
@Whattchamacallit There are two types of Satanists: the one you talk of, and the other uses Satan as a symbol of the individual's power... er, a type of mentality, not sure I'm explaining that right...
slythoughts 1 month ago
@slythoughts Levey is the guy to look up for more info on that one.
slythoughts 1 month ago
Professors response to him thinking he was Jesus:"Cocaine is a hell of a drug"
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What about Jesus ?
MsLya2013 2 months ago
i'm not hatin on your deconversion but if you were I true Christian like you said you were in the first episode then you would not have come to the conclusion that God might not exist. this is what true faith is. Also, if one absolutely believes that God exists, then one believes that God determines the truth. Therefore, God would be truth's master. Just a thought.
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@laz0rer nice 'No True Scotsman' logical fallacy you made there.
mrfishgun 2 months ago
@laz0rer What created god? nothing? how convenient...... Did god create himself? if that was possible why couldnt the universe have created itself?.... try and open your mind past the falicy of faith...
TheRacketBoss 2 months ago
@laz0rer So a true Christian will not question God's existence?
Your definition of a true Christian perhaps is one of a person with an unquestioning faith.
But how can we attempt to find truth without questioning?
Inherent with this questioning would include whether God determines the truth or not.
The video's creator came to the same conclusion I have.
Uberlaser 2 months ago
continued. My ethics background from years ago, seems to indicate Christian conversionists come from an argument of ignorance. Very few Christians that try to convert me know the Bible at all, yet believe none the less. I try to be kind, but what concerns me is the Theist necessity to be a politician. Either they believe they believe, or they are liars trying to get the religious vote, which is the majority. Know you are not alone, as contrary to Bush's statement, there are many caring Atheists
gyrperegrine 2 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
fantastic series, I deeply appreciated the brutal honesty. the confusion between god/jesus and the self is not so far fetched....apparently brain imaging of theists relating what god is telling them he wants of them, lights up in the same brain centres as when they are stating their own wants/desires. this is very revealing when we consider the conviction that non believers go to hell..
michiko38 2 months ago
You made me laugh out loud when you said "I'm Jesus". I love your series.
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Don't you understand What god did for you? Of course you Will say that you are the son. Because the son is in the background. Ge died so he could give you his spirit. You are the temple of Jesus.
Aramean87 2 months ago
Ok through this hole thing you have had me intersted and thought profound. WIth your deconversion. But really Jesus? The mind is a terrible thing to waste. haha Naw that's a joke. Crazy the tricks we can play within are own minds, when the frontlines of loigical is charging at it.
Dustin212112 2 months ago
Great series, very thought provoking, but I LOL'd when you said "I'm Jesus"!
outoftimeonpandora 3 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian 59
@outoftimeonpandora I actually had a very similar experience. It was very unique feeling. I didn't think I was literally Jesus, but I thought that I could serve as a Jesus-like role in this world. I would go out and show the world the kind of love that can be had. I would generate followers (aka disciples) and hopefully not get killed in the process. I don't remember if I thought this way in the name of God or if it was after I had determined that a god didn't exist though.
Kowzorz 2 months ago
@outoftimeonpandora Ah ha ha ha, same here - Evid3nc3, kudos for not shying away from telling us about this part of your journey. I hope we get to hear about those 4 interesting days some time!
kookaburra1701 2 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
Wow! Brilliant!
NotReligioNut 3 months ago
...and I mean that litterally.
NotReligioNut 3 months ago
I realized after this that I am much more of a pantheist than an atheist, thanks!
Also, nice Final Fantasy Tactics music in the background; that's my favorite video game, lol.
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@MyVirtualCoder. Just like not smoking is a habit I suppose....being an atheist is rejecting religion so it is not a religion.
maxounet35 3 months ago
@terryman322 : BOO
Wordoffakes 3 months ago
You probably already knew this, but you're "I'm Jesus" phase is reminiscent of Gnosticism.
Great series, btw.
bowlsallbroken 3 months ago
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How dare you, You who are evil. Who are you to say this lie. You need to stop deceiving people; you devil. This is not the truth, God who is my father is truth unless you repent and give your life to Christ. God's wrath and judgement still abides on you. My wife says The blood of Jesus is against you. You father of Lies thats all you know how to do is lie. Repent! for the Kingdom of heaven is at hand. You still to live. Live or die make your choice!
terryman322 3 months ago
So I want to ask you, although you stopped believing that you were the second coming of Christ, do you still believe the other points you made in the video? As far as what you were saying about the theistic god being a dark force/Satan? Or did those ideas leave you when the idea of being the second coming left you as well.
OhLookItsSarge 3 months ago
Thank you, for articulating our painful birth from darkness to the enlightenment and truth. You have my vote for sainthood!.
AtollSurfer 3 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
I must say i love you for using one winged angel on this....
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi!
Estuans interius
Ira vehementi!
Yaweh!
Yaweh!
Terryracoon 3 months ago 22
@Terryracoon Sephiroth is the one true god ALL SHALL FEAR HIM !!!
kappa8koin 2 months ago
You thought you were Jesus! We're very much alike, in that I sometimes feel like I'm a powerless god. Knowing of the ills of society but unable to fix them.
Stay strong on your mission good sir!
OnlySoaa 3 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
I find it interesting that you thought you were Jesus. Before watching this video, i believed that I was the anti-Christ since I believe that God is the universe. I still go to a Christian church, but that is only to spend time with my uncle and grandmother. After I get baptized, i'm putting an end to my Christian self and pursuing Pantheism.
WarLordX 3 months ago
lol you thought you were jesus. this extimony is epic.
thekatiejones9 3 months ago
One wing angel, black mages song is amazing :D
7ri3dge 3 months ago
Your musical choices are incredible. I got chills when I heard "Welcome to the Real World" - and now "Canis Lupus."
Also love how you manage to make deconversion sound like Silent Hill. :)
jadegecko 3 months ago
@MrVirtualCoder Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is not a belief system, as atheism is the rejection of belief. Atheism has no beliefs, no doctrines, and no world views. Atheism has no cultural or historical foundation. It is merely a rejection of the idea that a supernatural being exists, which is the foundation of all religions.
Theism is the belief that a god exists. Atheism is the non-belief of a god. Neither is a religion.
gdehms 4 months ago
@gdehms They'll never get it.
TheBiAtheist 3 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
You made Yahweh look like an extremely scary dark circular Eldritch abomination with all the music and the black text. And the new interpretation of Revelation.
And then, professor smacked you back to sense.
vytah 4 months ago 2
If Truth is a Deity, then I am a Theist, for Truth is my God, and the Spirit of truth is in every word that Christ utters.
2gointruth 4 months ago
@2gointruth That is where you are wrong. Christ did not utter much truths. he was just as ignorant as his fellow men. There is more truth is the words of philosophers then in the words of mad preacher.
gethsoftware 4 months ago
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"Ignorant" is your word - In truth: If Christ is mad, then I pray that I, too, could be so.
2gointruth 4 months ago
@2gointruth seach for thruth. truth and god are not at ods. and truth and christ are definetly not at ods.
gethsoftware 4 months ago
@2gointruth Enugh with the rabbelings of anchent fools. You never know truth that way. one must remain open and not jump to conclusion.
gethsoftware 4 months ago
"...for four very interesting days....I thought I was literally the second coming of Jesus Christ" ROFLMAO! hahahahahahaha that totally made my day
joelrichardsmith 4 months ago
THIS... was heavy! You thought you were the reincarnation of jesus? when i realized i was no longer a christian what bother me was hell. I knew that if god did not exist neither would hell but i was irrationally afraid of it for some time. This let me realize of the harms of religion. I told ProfMTH about it and he told me that it was normal for some people. It eventually disappear. I think that was as irrational as i got. Never thought i was jesus, but thanks for sharing.It shows your honesty.
vision4DaY 4 months ago 2
@vision4DaY as Evid3nc3 says in the video, truth is more important. for me to become an atheist it took realizing that even if I am sent to hell for being honest, that would be infinitely noble. it's more likely though that the universe is not run by such a cruel sadistic vengeful maniac.
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2:24
"Big Bang and Origin of Life
Likely yet another pair of natural causes"
Actually, it already is. Quantum fluctuations explain the origin of the universe, and Stanley Miller showed how abiogenesis (life coming from non-life) can happen.
AtheismIsCorrect 4 months ago
holy shit
samcarr6 4 months ago
Jesus is the true.
True may seem relative on times. Two opposite concepts could be logically true, and still contradict each other.
The bible teaches that all the adults who exited Egipt died in the desert, except Joshua and Caleb. So, they were right! But, the true is that they did not have to die. Their children, the most likely to die, survived and inherited the land.
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Jesus is the true.
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Now I think that I got it. Your atheist friend gave you a bunch of books to read, all written by atheists, and you read them. And you became an atheist! Wow. That is George W Bush's law to a T. Now, will your atheist world crumble if you found out that several of those books actually had five authors and the author on the publication page was not the author? So you can toss out their arguments?
909pleasantville 5 months ago in playlist More videos from Evid3nc3
For another cool version of one winged angel look up "ssh last battle festival!"
spook79 5 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian
This guy is an idiot. People are stupid. Who are you? You're a mere human being who thinks you know science. Tell me this knowitall...how did humans form? How did Earth form? Why do humans feel emotions? How is it that Earth is perfectly made? The air is right, the water sustains life. Explosion? Yeah right? Mere chance? If you read the Bible, Jesus came along and changed the world forever. God is loving and cares for you. God saves people. We aren't worthy but he saves
houshmenzadeh15 5 months ago
@houshmenzadeh15 Science has already explained all that.
"how did humans form?"
through evolution
"How did Earth form?"
star dust from when our solar system formed
"Why do humans feel emotions?"
It is beneficial for life and a part of evolution
"How is it that Earth is perfectly made?"
Physical laws and there are sextillions of planets out there- well enough for one to suit life.
The big bang was not that much of a "space explosion". You should do research.
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@houshmenzadeh15 Also, please don't call people idiots just because they don't agree with your philosphy. People have opinions, you know.
AtheismIsCorrect 4 months ago
@houshmenzadeh15 You can answer these questions,If you really wanted to.But you prefer the simple and meaningless explanation "god","I dont know how it happened so it must be god,because this book says so"
GTXMAN 4 months ago
For four days I lost my mind, and on the fifth day I was pimp slapped by my professor.
revelationtek3 5 months ago
I have to admit that for a while I also thought maybe I could be Jesus, too. OK, I was only 7 or 8 at the time, but there were weird moments where I either felt special, or that I felt rotten and needed an out, but either way, I felt that later in life it would become clear that I was special and I would find out I was Jesus, and then I would die before the age of 32. Where do kids get such crazy ideas, and why do they need them, even for a little while?
Prelude610 5 months ago
Your path follows a VERY similar one to my own. I remember when I discovered the word "pantheist" my heart leapt with joy, as THAT was exactly what felt right after the lie that was xianity. I, too, valued truth over god. I now identify as atheist, too. I'm thoroughly enjoying this series, thanks for taking the time to make it.
montyollie 5 months ago
Did he just defeat Sephiroth?
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 5 months ago
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ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
Mogley52 5 months ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 months ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 5 months ago
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GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 5 months ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 5 months ago
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DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless
Mogley52 5 months ago
my journey to atheism was a much smoother path , yet something in the back of my mind keeps me wondering if there is some kind of supreme being, or if this universe itself is a being of its own . but then i start to think that this god concept has been integrated into our dna somehow through the generations
1robon 5 months ago
@1robon I apostated from Islam in the summer, I understand what you mean. Mind control is insidious, and I guess growing up and being taken to sunday school and church from a young age didn't help. One of my earliest and deeply imprinted memories is of the preacher shouting at the congregation about the terrible wrath of almighty God, emotionally it was a very deep imprint. I'm still interested in near death experiences, Graham Hancock and Rick Strassman, but I'm an atheist.
LuqmanNaq 5 months ago in playlist More videos from Evid3nc3
I find it wonderful that you played a track form the Omen to describe the dogma of Christ, so major kudos to you.
sociallogie 5 months ago
I wish you were the second coming of Jesus and I hope you, by this video series, banish the monotheistic God from existence.
Born and raised atheist, but this series is brilliant. I always thought I had it all figured out, but if I had... why do I find this so rewarding?
Kaminix 5 months ago
Fucking major props for using one winged angel. So badass. Lol! Also...I love you?
Timsalcove 6 months ago 17
Most effective use of "one winged angel" i have yet encountered.
FattyMcFox 6 months ago
Chris, I can see why you won the 2010 Project Reason Prize from Sam Harris and earned a $10,000 check for your video.
jamielynnfox 6 months ago
I like that you associate reverence with humility in relation to the enormity and beauty beyond.
cadeere74 6 months ago
Thumbs up for One Winged Angel! FF7!
Okysho 6 months ago in playlist Why I am no longer a Christian 13
I do wonder, and i might have asked this on another video, but what do people think when they hear of science of say... global warming? if you believe in it or not, my question is, have you seen the reports? have you personally ever looked at the facts and figured, read the scientific journals on it? if not, then what evidence do you have? you have only what you heard, and that is nothing more than what evidence there is for God. So logically, why one but not the other?
bluefootedpig 6 months ago
@bluefootedpig Your answer to ignorance is further ignorance, taking advantage of the fact that nobody can know every detail of everything they accept as truth. The answer is to think logically. I believe the science of global warming despite my rudimentary knowledge of it because I know that thousands of independent, qualified scientists around the world study and come to the same general conclusions, and despite many interested parties no one can come forward to disprove it.
MrG0dbar 6 months ago
@MrG0dbar See, you proved my point. There is a large body that debates this, that does not believe it. Many of those in said group are also listed on the global warming side. The head body of research, keeps their names on it because they "once" believe it. But now that they actively reject it, they cannot get their names removed. But you prove the point, there is a huge debate on it, and yet you believe it is happening. So you are taking knowledge at face value instead of looking into it.
bluefootedpig 6 months ago
@bluefootedpig Good point. In many areas in life we have to rely on other people who have taken the time to look at and interpret the evidence, be that your personal physician or a climate scientist, and that is the bigger point, that there is evidence to look at and interpret.
Prelude610 5 months ago
@Prelude610 So now, could it be said that if you trust a person in a book to conduct a study or experiment honestly, that perhaps a pastor or religious person would relate experiences that they have had, and believe (even if wrong) that their truth is just as much truth as a scientist (who may also be wrong)? I guess it comes down to what is evidence. So the question is how do you define evidence. A farmer, while not knowing the science, will see crop failure and the reason why before science.
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig Good question, standards of evidence. In some fields of science the standards are tighter than others, because they can be, or must be. Those with lower standards understand what that means. But to clarify, a testimonial is not evidence. A testimonial is something a person can say. Evidence is something someone can show.
Prelude610 5 months ago
@Prelude610 "evidence is something someone can show" very true, but how many people ask for the evidence? How many people who believe in global warming (regardless if it is true or not) have asked to look at the actual numbers? Most tend to just listen to their news that they choose and believe it. So even if you are saying "global warming is happening!" that is just a testimony of what they have seen and believe. For all most believers know, the data doesn't exist, for they never have looked.
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@Prelude610 "evidence is something someone can show" very true, but how many people ask for the evidence? How many people who believe in global warming (regardless if it is true or not) have asked to look at the actual numbers? Most tend to just listen to their news that they choose and believe it. So even if you are saying "global warming is happening!" that is just a testimony of what they have seen and believe. For all most believers know, the data doesn't exist, for they never have looked.
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig - We can't all go to the evidence on everything. At some point we have to go with what people who have evaluated the evidence have to say, be that a climate scientist of your doctor. But, these are evidence-based positions these people take. They aren't faith-based, although provisional trust, not faith, has been given to these experts. Religion, on the other hand, and in the best cases, is an attempt to deal with the big questions. At one time it may have been ...
Prelude610 5 months ago
@Prelude610 "at some point we have to go with what people who have evaluated the evidence say"... but that is the question. How far removed is it. My professor learned from his professors, who most likely got most of his ideas from a book, or other professor. How many times removed can someone be and have it still be correct? I know no climent experts personally, and if I get my info from school, odds are they don't know anyone personally either.
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig How do you know how to verify your knowledge? Repeat the experiments that were the basis of the claim which is elevated to knowledge after critically examining the underpinning of logic behind making that claim. If it still doesn't add up try to come up with a better explanation and test for the evidence that would make it true. Afterwords present it to the scientific community for review. That's how science grows more accurate not a limiting factor.
hockeater 5 months ago
@hockeater yeah, but how many people perform the tests. Tell me, how many experiments have you personally done on plate tetonics and how many on vacines? odds are you haven't done both. So at that point, you are relying on society, which we have seen many times over corruption. DTD ring a bell? did you know it cures polio, or so all the research said at the time. Turns out it causes problems, yes we have advanced beyond that, but what makes you think what we do now is any better?
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig The plates are moving. I've visited the grand canyon twice and performed the measurements on the known uplift event twice and both results came up as expected. As for volcanoes what do you want verified? There's a wide variety of experiments you can do from the comforts of your house to confirm the basic principles of physics as they apply to volcanoes.
hockeater 5 months ago
@hockeater I said vacines. Not volacanoes. The point of the two fairly unrelated topics is while someone like yourself might be interested in plate tetonics, would unlikely be willing to also test medicine. So one area of your life is governed by professionals and not yourself, and thus your mind must make judgements on how trustworthy it is.
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig Oh for vaccines that's easy. You know all those new strands of flu you're not getting thanks to the shots? Vaccine baby!
hockeater 5 months ago
@hockeater Thanks for proving my point. Since the age of about 10, i stopped getting the flu vacine. I have never gotten the flu since then. a flu to me is a very distant memory. My wife, whom I personally know has not gotten the flu vacine for 10 years, also never got it, even when our little town got hit by a flu virus (by town, i mean a very small town). So you just pointed out how without vaccines, you still don't get the flu.
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig Actually the vaccine is to prevent you from getting certain strands as they appear rather than every disease strain ever. This would be why new shots are needed. Maybe your town simply got hit by an older strain or one you'd already built a strong immunity from with past case of the flu. All a vaccine is is the declawed version of a virus. It stimulates your immune system and builds immunity without bringing in symptoms.
hockeater 5 months ago
@hockeater Maybe you missed the several comments, but unless you have specifically ran the tests, you are trust that what they are producing as a flu vaccine does its job. Like for emergencies, the US has millions worth of flu pills, which have only been shown about 60% of the lab work done, the other 40% has been hidden. But unless you specifically are doing the testing, then you really don't know. I am not trying to say plate tetonics or vaccines don't work, only you don't know.
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig I get vaccinated regularly and I don't get flu. This proves the test in itself. If I were vaccinated and did get the flu you'd have a point. In your case the fact that you don't get flu is merely a testament to small town living where you aren't jam packed into tight crowds where disease spreads easily or possibly the other factors I mentioned. The fact that other things can do what x does doesn't invalidate that x regularly does those things.
hockeater 5 months ago
@hockeater I am not even sure how to address this... that logic is horrible flawed. Are you saying that because I eat an orange every day, terrorist aren't attacking america? Since 9/11, i have eatten an orange every day to ward off the terrorist, and since then they haven't attack! That is about your logic. You get vaccinated, and don't get the disease, but who says you would get it anyway? It actually doesn't prove anything, even remotely. Nor does it even address the original argument.
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig Are you joking? Terrorists named fox news attack everything America was originally built to stand for with threats and polarizing stories almost constantly. Clearly your oranges are ineffective! Maybe try bananas. You wanna get silly we can get silly while still logically disproving every point you try to make.
hockeater 5 months ago
@hockeater No, you haven't, not even in the least. You said you do X and it prevents Y, and therefore that is evidence. I never claimed my oranges stopped fox news, I said the 9/11 terrorists. Al-quada has yet to attack another skyscrapper. You claimed you took a vaccine and didn't get sick, therefore it worked. That is just as valid evidence as my eating an orange prevented terrorism from happening again.
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig More specific terrorism? Someone didn't follow the mail bombings that while less serious still claimed lives. Again try bananas! Oh wait their leader is dead so this is a moot point before you even test never mind.
hockeater 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig - ... mankind's best effort, but actual evidence has invalidated the claims of most of all religions.
BTW, there is no reason to "believe in" global warming, or "believe in" evolution, or "believe in" gravity. Your use of the "believe in" phrase seems to be saying something important about how you approach such things. Same goes for your use of the word "truth" in the earlier post. Not flaming, just noting.
Prelude610 5 months ago
@Prelude610 My use of believe in, and truth is all realitive, that might be what you are picking up on. I use them as it is a term that most people often feel. It is difficult, at least from my position. It is amazing how many atheists for instance will say that relgion has been proven wrong. It is a sub culture and I often try to communicate on that level. I believe in very little, and my faith in the system is lacking, namely due to the immature nature of the scientific method.
bluefootedpig 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig Another problem here, declaring something a "truth". Science does not deal in truth. It is all about providing the best possible explanation of the facts, per the evidence. But science is ruthless when it comes to errors and particularly lies, which is why you see so many science-oriented folks going after religion and similar nonsense. Not that such nonsense does not have value in people's lives. But keep in mind, Santa Clause is fictional.
Prelude610 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig Another problem here, declaring something a "truth". Science does not deal in truth. It is all about providing the best possible explanation of the facts, per the evidence. But science is ruthless when it comes to errors and particularly lies, which is why you see so many science-oriented folks going after religion and similar nonsense. Not that such nonsense does not have value in people's lives. But keep in mind, Santa Clause is fictional.
Prelude610 5 months ago
@bluefootedpig - I think the "truth" you are referring to is a person's take on a situation, declaring it a "truth", not because they can prove it, but because that's how they have decided to interpret something.
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