i like to use the republican term "leftist" to discribe people who go beyond individual rights and centre-left politics and advocate a form of socialism; those are the democrats that advocate censorship of games.
Hey, Bob? This (and all your other old videos, apparently) is gone from Screw Attack.
Also, how long does the whole thing at Screw Attack last? Any chance of bringing TGO over to The Escapist with Escape to the Movies and The Big Picture?
i think Wertham gets the short side of the stick. He does fairly get blamed for Seduction of the Innocent, but he later regretted the harm it had caused. he felt it went too far. His main concern, unlike everyone elses, was actually always the children.
He also was one of the earliest campaigners for civil rights; his work was cited in the Brown vs The Board of Education trial, and is considered seminal in the verdict. Lawful Good if there ever was one.
Best Game Over Thinker ever! I wish Bob would do his videos like he use to with out the whole story line stuff.Though I can understand that it is what he wants to do if he must I really hope he makes it a secondary priority! But still thanks for the videos Bob!
he says we need more casual gamers so none gamers who are with games that are violent see the good side in games such as being with families,getting healthy. But that's a bad a lie as the whole video game violence thing then|!
@kingbooforums how is it a lie when games such as Wii Sports/Carnival games clearly have less violence in then than 20 minutes of any football game? Yes it is a small portion of all the games there are out there and no it does not define every game in the market, but its the diversity of games that he's trying to point out.
Eariler today at my school a cop came in, and while talking about the effects of bullying brought up columbine, After which she said that it was games like Doom that "prepared" Harris and Klebold. I found it hard to take anything she said seriously after that.
Think about this ppl. eventually we will get older and some of us gamers (hopefully the smart ones) will be able to get to power and be able to speack for us and make things better. But before that we must behave and not to give them assholes more "ammo" against us. So Xbox live, grow up! And whach the gameoverthinker!
fuck that man is right, i have stoped what ever bad words online that i used, hope u all do to. we dont lisen to them, how dont even can prenounce the name of the games there judgeing
dam i just finished a paper on this same thing i wish i watched this sooner
well its basically everything i said and alittle more but wat people dont think about is if some of this bill pass can u picture all the recall that will cast the companies millions and people would loses there jobs but isnt that wat are goverment is agianest job lose
I really like your style and for being the voice of us gamers sticking it to the douche bags who hate violent video games and also who wouldn’t know the first thing about video games you got my sub for sure. Great work.
moviebob im suprised you didnt pull a karl marx, i mean the ending was powerful for sure, but i was expecting a sort of "the proletarians (gamers) have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Gamers of all countries, UNITE!" :) regardless great episode, long time fan, big up the academic side of gaming :D
You know, in issues like this, I'm so happy our Congress is so incompetent so they can't pass anything. Also, that when they do pass something, it doesn't do do shit.
I agree with many thing Bob has said, but he was slightly contradictory. He said there are no facts that link violent games and real life violence, but then tells us to use the facts, when we use our "facts" we become "believers". Don;t confuse this with disagreeing, but I was just pointing it out.
@zephyr2096 I think he's talking about people who believe without thinking their half of the argument all the way. We can believe, but that doesn't necessarily put us in the believer category as long as we still make factual choices and think about it in it's entirety first. (not trying to start an argument. just a thought)
@dragonwarrior321 Yea, I actually thought of that after I posed the comment, and I didn't feel like correcting myself, but at the least people should think about defending the medium instead of defending it because that's what the Game Overthinker or whoever else told them to. That was the main point of my comment.
@wlrugby Phoenix Wright. Very famous Japanese 'anime' lawer game.
And the drama is necessary. This could destroy games as we know and love them all because of old farts in Congress who don't have any idea what's going on. Drama is how you get people off their butts and doing something.
Why this should even be a problem is beyond me. There's no way any subject matter is going to corrupt them to the point of school shootings or domestic abuse if they're raised right. If the voice of the parents is the central voice of authority in their kid's lives, nothing on TV or the internet would alter that. Video game developers should be taken with the same credence as filmakers. They're artist of one sort or another, not goddamn interlopers threatening your child's sanity.
I don't really beleive the same thing that happened to comics can happen to video games. Why? Well,comics have always been,and still are,a largely geeky medium,exclusive to us---err,them(stealin' jokes from the overthinker ftw!),whilst games have gotten to the point at which gaming is for everyone-from douchebags,to old people. We just got lost somewhere in the middle. And you know what? You're right about Wii bashing. I personally don't a Wii,but i beleive that it can get us out of this mess!
I just saw the Penn & Teller episode about video games. They tested the "anyone who plays violent video games is a serial-killer waiting to happen" hypothesis. They let a kid fire an actual gun, after shooting the gun, he was asked to fire some more, but turned it down. He also started crying minutes later. This should prove that the video games are not the problem here, the mental health of each person is. And the mental health of a person can most often be traced back to the PARENT!
bob, you are a genius! All this time we have had to defend ourself's because we didn't have any other strategy, a one trick dog so to speak. ( i think that"s the med-afore at least). I wouldn't be surprised if your one of the people who historians remember as the Saviour of our great pastime. in short you just taught a one trick dog a new trick!
I had to write a persuasive essay on why video games are harmful to people, and it KILLED me on the inside to have to do that to my hobby. Everything was $#!+; no real facts, no statstics that made sense, and bull claims
Funny story: Youth pastors that I've met, (3, to be exact,) use HALO to hang out with high school kids. How many times have you heard of a violent act by a youth group kid that was close to his pastor?
I find it both funny and sad that people will make Jack Thompson characters in Oblivion and Mortal Kombat to use as punching bag-voodoo dolls. It only gives Jack more ammo, so to speak, against us.
This was one of the most powerful videos I have ever seen. Not just on Youtube, and not just on the Internet. I mean ever. You are absolutely correct, and thanks to our giant network, we can easily defend our wonderful hobby, and, eventually, they WILL lose.
I don't generally like violent video games if they're just all about the violence. I do like some violent video games, such as No More Heroes and House of the Dead Overkill, but not just because of their violence. I also find these games to be absolutely hilarious and clever. I love the creative and weird boss designs and the retro references of No More Heroes, and I love the 1970s exploitation movie theme of House of the Dead Overkill.
The video game industry is never going to get shut down. It's just too big.
I mean, we have the technology to make cars that don't create carbon emissions, but that would be a heavy impact on the oil industry, which has a huge grip on our economy.
So if we're going to treat this thing like a war, you know, us as the freedom fighters and them as the oppressive overlords, then can I break out the guns and strap bombs to the houses of our political enemies?
I mean, it's revolution man! We can't let them destroy our industry! IT'S TIME TO FIGHT FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IN!!!
Or maybe I'm overreacting a bit and that makes me look bad?
Nope, because honestly, talk to any troll on the internet about anything logical and see what response you get. Honestly, that is what all these anti-video game people are doing. They aren't really bringing up anything important. What they are doing is trolling. We really shouldn't give them the time. Do you know why Jack Thompson lasted so long? Because of us. Trolls feed off of negative emotions, but irony is really their finest cuisine.
@supermatx That'd be part of it, anyway. The basic idea is that, if you're able to present yourself as an intelligent, balanced person who is able to put forward a point in a polite and logical manner, you can help represent the gaming culture so much better in the face of society as a whole
In short, strive to be the polar opposite of a typical XBox Live gamer.
This video is just plain brilliant. I have disagreed with a number of your topics in the past but this is completely true. I've posted this on a Facebook group called "Gamer's Voice" set up by a UK MP (MP is like a British congressman) is response to the over zealous anti-game propaganda and it's growing.
Yeah, I hate Joseph Lieberman. He caucuses with the Democrats and even has a big chairmanship on a Senate DHS committee because of them. In other words, he's pretty powerful. However, he's a traitor to those he caucuses with, threatening to filibuster health care reform legislation. Essentially, he's a right-winger. Why Democrats don't kick him out, I will never know. Oh yes, and he voted for the Communications Decency Act of 1996, which, if it was passed, would censor the internet.
I wonder what Jack Thompson is up to now. We haven't really heard from him since he got disbarred. I'm surprised he hasn't been up in arms about No More Heroes and Madworld, the latter actually gaining a lot of controversy, for instance, not being released in Germany and also upsetting the National Institute on Media and the Family. I assume a lot of it has to do with Nintendo's traditionally family-friendly image.
To paraphrase a famous saying all All that is necessary for the triumph of idiot believers need is for smart thinkers to do nothing. We have to fight them other wise you have McCarthyism part 2.
The problem with the anti-gaming side of the argument is that they see correlation as causation. Someone should ask these people, what do they think is worse? Realist violence (where you see all the blood and gore) or unrealistic violence (where you shoot someone in the face 12 times and they just fall over with no blood or sign of pain)?
In GTA4, when you drunk drive, the cops will come after you and it's impossible to drive straight. If anything, it's a message to NOT drink and drive!
@Lunarvx22 But as bob said, it doesn't have to senda ny message to not do this and that because the game designed with all the weapons and killing, rockstar knew what they were doing.
What exactly can we do about this, however? Send this video to our friends and families and possibly email or call our representatives about the details concerning this debate and what's going on today?
no, never start any type of discussion or debate. Wait for the ''anti-gamers'' to attack, then you can defend your side by letting them know how wrong they are about everything.
You know during this kind of reminds me of the the Mohammed cartoon controversy a while back ago. Some people in the middle east decided to throw Molotov cocktails at Danish embassies to protest that the portrayal of Muslims as being violent.
They probably had a point. In fact few people would say otherwise. Cartoon for the most part was really really bad as in unfunny aside from being outright racist. But the moment Molotov cocktails started flinging around like a cricket infestation, they lost their key advantage. They were trying to prove that Muslims are in fact not any more violent than any other religion.
South Park did an episode about it, as I recall, a two-parter actually. It was a message-heavy episode, but I think it was great.
As they said, it's not enough to just believe in free speech, it needs to be defended in the worst of times as well as the best of times, or we allow the opposition to believe we can and will shy from our beliefs at the first sign of controversy. Either we can say anything, or we should say nothing. There can be no compromise when freedom is at stake.
@LuckySharm Family Guy trying to show Muhammad in one of their non-sequitur scenes and getting censored. It was South Park criticizing what had happened to their show in an episode where something similar happened after that Danish cartoonist riled up Al Queida. The argument in the episode was that it was wrong and un-American to censor, especially under threats of violence, because doing so ALLOWS terrorism to work. And if we don't defend free speech, we're forfeiting our human rights.
A perfect example of how to fight back by being smart is the fox news debate on Mass Effect. The way Gieoff Keighly responds to the accusations was amazing. Also, this guys right about fanboys. We should be supporting each other as gamers as a whole.
@coolgeek35 well if u have played bioshock, which u probably have, u already know it is the sweetest game ever! :) thats y it is the answer to everything. Q.what would u like to play A. bioshock Q, what is the best game A Bioshock Q,what is the capital of sweeden A, BIOSHCOK!..........o wait soz
Overthinker, you are awesome! Because of what you said, you made me even proud to be a gamer than I ever was. I agree that we should separate ourselves from those who cuss at Xbox Live and show them politcians what we really are.
Bob, Overthinker, whatever you wish to be called. Where have you been all my life? I guess it really does take us old gamers to be able to see and think of things this way, but more so to try and galvanize those after us.
I hadn't seen you until maybe a few weeks ago for the first time, but that "subscribe" button couldn't have been hit any faster. I studied censorship in school and couldn't have been more horrified at how it keeps repeating on everything. Race, sexuality and media.
you TOTALLY interrupted your live action self! That was very rude, Moviebob, you should apologize to LiveActionBob. He finally makes an appearance in your videos and you treat him like a non-right wing pundit on Fox News! That is bad form sir!
Could you (or anyone) please tell me where you got the information in regards to the facts that you stated. I would like it to help in a paper I'm writing that mentions violence in video games.
You know what's weird? You mentioned "violent" games like Grand Theft Auto, BioShock, Assassin's Creed, and No More Heroes, but what about Manhunt, which not only depicts gruesome acts of violence, but shows exactly how to do so to get the best results. I mean, the Wii version even have you use the Wii Remote as a a knife and use it in a stabbing motion. How do I fight against that?
'd say screw em. Yes there are inexcusably gratuitous games, but THAT is their entire point. They exist to rile up controversies and we don't owe them any favors for it, but to say video games are somehow the ONE genre where this is unsound you are placing it above a pedestal higher than any religious text.
IF you're going to punish Manhunt for it you have to do so to Sin City and James Bond. Heck why not start at the source? Disband the military as its the prime candidate for the glorification of violence and has certainly trained more killers than video games. By their logic everyone who grew up in the 90s is already a ferocious psychopath so what do we need them for anyway?
well there's always one or two exceptions to the rule, like that game designed to recreate the Kennedy assassination. But we must remember that games like Manhunt are the exception and not the rule. Also, it's controversy and it really is Rockstar's bread and butter at the end of the day
Granted the WAY JFK: Reloaded was done was in extremely bad taste but the game could have worked if instead of playing the gunman you the role of one of the witnesses or better yet the role of an investigator limited to 1963 technology with a random element to deal with the Grassy Knoll and other ideas.
Woohoo, thanks for listening to us, Mister Bob, and posting your new videos on YouTube. As always, fantastic and hilarious video. However, you should look up the "Bobo the Clown experiment", since you said that no study has come CLOSE. I do agree with you for the most part, but you made a fairly outrageous claim, and you should probably look it up if you haven't seen it already.
I'm kind of sad, actually. It's the first time I've ever disagreed with you, even a little bit. :<
This is a bad day indeed for the USA. Videogames do not cause violence. However videogames do cause frustration on some levels and this could be used as basis by some people for violence. Oddly far off but a lawyer can do amazing things with it.
To be honest, this whole governorship is more political than psychological. Some political guy would want to use videogames as his selling point for the next election for I see.
ever thought about trying to be a speaker on one of these news show?
I know they are very bised but in the usa you guys have spike t.v right? I do think that will be the best stepping stone, as its a "dude" channel but its the nearest thing you guys have.
I feel that it more of "kids" upbringing who are violent you speak of history but its only a resent thing, videogame players from the bit era are more the target of violence rather then the one who its about.
Gamers who game for long peridos of time every day are likey to be the outcasts and I find the more sporty ones who start on the slope of fighting, robbery and bullying.
Video games should be judged on the same level as movies, TV shows, and music. They are a scapegoat for causing children to be violent. Video games are not the cause of violent children. That is caused by bad parenting
I have watched all of your vids(minus the 2 or 3 the age restriction is up on), and I HONESTLY agree with all of your opinions(except for Fat Buu being the best in DBZ. XD(Bardock=epic)). And I ALSO agree that we all should do what we can. If things heat up even more, I might just be tempted to send them emails. Seriously.
good point
MegaPopo1 3 weeks ago
Vote movie bob for President
lotro4ever4000 4 months ago 4
@lotro4ever4000 Hold on there, let Ron Paul have a go first. ;)
neongecko06 1 month ago
i like to use the republican term "leftist" to discribe people who go beyond individual rights and centre-left politics and advocate a form of socialism; those are the democrats that advocate censorship of games.
Personmr 4 months ago
@Personmr I agree.
We don't need to have any of the Chinese Governments issues happening in the US, anyway.
AUGundam 3 months ago
haha, we saved.... the mall ! haha that was awesome
hairyhobo1214 4 months ago
Hey, Bob? This (and all your other old videos, apparently) is gone from Screw Attack.
Also, how long does the whole thing at Screw Attack last? Any chance of bringing TGO over to The Escapist with Escape to the Movies and The Big Picture?
lolubentrold 4 months ago
It just makes me smile watching this and thinking about the Supreme Court ruling.
WE DID IT.
FlamingCamera 4 months ago
i think Wertham gets the short side of the stick. He does fairly get blamed for Seduction of the Innocent, but he later regretted the harm it had caused. he felt it went too far. His main concern, unlike everyone elses, was actually always the children.
He also was one of the earliest campaigners for civil rights; his work was cited in the Brown vs The Board of Education trial, and is considered seminal in the verdict. Lawful Good if there ever was one.
BrutticusForce 5 months ago
lol... When I played Madworld, I didn't feel the need to massacre people with a chainsaw, that's just god damn common sense.
carnyzzle 5 months ago
Best Game Over Thinker ever! I wish Bob would do his videos like he use to with out the whole story line stuff.Though I can understand that it is what he wants to do if he must I really hope he makes it a secondary priority! But still thanks for the videos Bob!
Gamer15511 6 months ago
Speed up voice reminds me of Foamy the Squirrel xD
clankbot9 6 months ago
its true my mom constantly blames me that video games are bad but then i ask what games are bad and whats bad about them?
and she just go sillent. she have no awnser. Bob is right
Vote for Bob
void735 8 months ago 5
was that the intro to contra 3 at 7:38 or so? Looks super familiar...definitely something from the snes
jigaboon 8 months ago
Wow, that was actually pretty inspiring. Well done Bob
weofparadigm 8 months ago
IM WITH YOU MAN
alexxthechosen 8 months ago
he says we need more casual gamers so none gamers who are with games that are violent see the good side in games such as being with families,getting healthy. But that's a bad a lie as the whole video game violence thing then|!
kingbooforums 9 months ago
@kingbooforums how is it a lie when games such as Wii Sports/Carnival games clearly have less violence in then than 20 minutes of any football game? Yes it is a small portion of all the games there are out there and no it does not define every game in the market, but its the diversity of games that he's trying to point out.
krym0re 8 months ago
Oh, violent video games do make me violent. the point is if I care or not
kingbooforums 9 months ago
Eariler today at my school a cop came in, and while talking about the effects of bullying brought up columbine, After which she said that it was games like Doom that "prepared" Harris and Klebold. I found it hard to take anything she said seriously after that.
Wesker10000 9 months ago
Am I the only one getting MASSIVE goosebumps at 10:00 onward?
UNITE!!!!!
ZephyrFiction 10 months ago
God Bless the Guys that dedicate thier lives to Videogames!!!
KungFuWolfB1tch 10 months ago
beautifully said.. *sniff*
sonofodin1987 10 months ago
Amen reverend overthinker! (j/k)
alexcastellanosleon 10 months ago
LOL @ The Rock
AllieRX87 11 months ago
Miyamoto=God.
1 thumb short of 666.
xxdunkalixx 11 months ago
thumb up if you want that bowser shirt.
great job bob as usual.
insau 1 year ago
Well said. As per usual. This series is great!
BluishGreenPro 1 year ago
Think about this ppl. eventually we will get older and some of us gamers (hopefully the smart ones) will be able to get to power and be able to speack for us and make things better. But before that we must behave and not to give them assholes more "ammo" against us. So Xbox live, grow up! And whach the gameoverthinker!
resembz 1 year ago
fuck that man is right, i have stoped what ever bad words online that i used, hope u all do to. we dont lisen to them, how dont even can prenounce the name of the games there judgeing
void735 1 year ago
just link to this video.
send it to your congressman.
this is GOOD.
HaploidCell 1 year ago
dam i just finished a paper on this same thing i wish i watched this sooner
well its basically everything i said and alittle more but wat people dont think about is if some of this bill pass can u picture all the recall that will cast the companies millions and people would loses there jobs but isnt that wat are goverment is agianest job lose
ticknoros 1 year ago
dam i just finished a paper on this same thing i wish i watched this sooner
ticknoros 1 year ago
watching them all. best video yet
AlkalineDyl 1 year ago
I really like your style and for being the voice of us gamers sticking it to the douche bags who hate violent video games and also who wouldn’t know the first thing about video games you got my sub for sure. Great work.
MegaGEEK2o 1 year ago
moviebob im suprised you didnt pull a karl marx, i mean the ending was powerful for sure, but i was expecting a sort of "the proletarians (gamers) have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win. Gamers of all countries, UNITE!" :) regardless great episode, long time fan, big up the academic side of gaming :D
DiaSol 1 year ago
I WANT THAT BOWSER SHIRT!!
RidingAShoppingCart 1 year ago 2
Thank God for Jon Stewart!
dragondancer123 1 year ago
MADD
Mothers Against Drunk Driving
DDAMM
Drunk Drivers Against Mad Mothers
Raffix394 1 year ago
You know, in issues like this, I'm so happy our Congress is so incompetent so they can't pass anything. Also, that when they do pass something, it doesn't do do shit.
JuilliardOrBust 1 year ago
I agree with many thing Bob has said, but he was slightly contradictory. He said there are no facts that link violent games and real life violence, but then tells us to use the facts, when we use our "facts" we become "believers". Don;t confuse this with disagreeing, but I was just pointing it out.
zephyr2096 1 year ago
@zephyr2096 I think he's talking about people who believe without thinking their half of the argument all the way. We can believe, but that doesn't necessarily put us in the believer category as long as we still make factual choices and think about it in it's entirety first. (not trying to start an argument. just a thought)
dragonwarrior321 1 year ago
@dragonwarrior321 Yea, I actually thought of that after I posed the comment, and I didn't feel like correcting myself, but at the least people should think about defending the medium instead of defending it because that's what the Game Overthinker or whoever else told them to. That was the main point of my comment.
zephyr2096 1 year ago
Never drink a drive, you might spill your beer
Tenkagethewise 1 year ago
oh good god that end part there was hilarious to me. i agree totally but it seems a bit too dramatic.
also i've noticed that lawyer " objection " picture in a lot of gamer videos, but can never tell where it's from. what is it?
wlrugby 1 year ago
@wlrugby Phoenix Wright. Very famous Japanese 'anime' lawer game.
And the drama is necessary. This could destroy games as we know and love them all because of old farts in Congress who don't have any idea what's going on. Drama is how you get people off their butts and doing something.
dragondancer123 1 year ago
BECOUSE KNOWLEGE IS POWER!
nintendozonezzzz 1 year ago
@nintendozonezzzz and knowing is half the battle
G.I. JOOOOOOOE!!!
jackedsamurai772 1 year ago
Bravo, man. This actually inspired me to write a paper about video game violence for English class.
onewheeled999 1 year ago 3
Nice speech at the end there
GrandLegacy195 1 year ago
I was literally in tears at the end of this video. You are a ray of hope for me, thank you.
SpecterVonBaren 1 year ago 25
@SpecterVonBaren Believer
Hayaishin 8 months ago
;W; Th-that… can I hug you?
Uruya6 1 year ago
Too bad i cant find the whole video on screwattack annymore. Because i really love this video!
WonderfulNoise 1 year ago
holy crap man that is the most insperational speech i have ever heard I tip my hat to you
CamoNinja54 1 year ago
Thumbs up for Wonder woman bondage. : D
copycatscreenname 1 year ago
Jack Thompson, Joe Lieberman, Hillary Clinton, and 14 members of MADD watched this video
tehQED 1 year ago
Why this should even be a problem is beyond me. There's no way any subject matter is going to corrupt them to the point of school shootings or domestic abuse if they're raised right. If the voice of the parents is the central voice of authority in their kid's lives, nothing on TV or the internet would alter that. Video game developers should be taken with the same credence as filmakers. They're artist of one sort or another, not goddamn interlopers threatening your child's sanity.
wickerspin1119 1 year ago 2
Who was the character and what was the cartoon at 2:59? I have a figure of that character and have never known who that was.
Bowserfett08 1 year ago
Best pep talk ever!
DarthFennec 1 year ago
I don't really beleive the same thing that happened to comics can happen to video games. Why? Well,comics have always been,and still are,a largely geeky medium,exclusive to us---err,them(stealin' jokes from the overthinker ftw!),whilst games have gotten to the point at which gaming is for everyone-from douchebags,to old people. We just got lost somewhere in the middle. And you know what? You're right about Wii bashing. I personally don't a Wii,but i beleive that it can get us out of this mess!
HoldOnToYourAsses 1 year ago
Everyone should watch your videos.
JackOfSpades93 1 year ago 2
I just saw the Penn & Teller episode about video games. They tested the "anyone who plays violent video games is a serial-killer waiting to happen" hypothesis. They let a kid fire an actual gun, after shooting the gun, he was asked to fire some more, but turned it down. He also started crying minutes later. This should prove that the video games are not the problem here, the mental health of each person is. And the mental health of a person can most often be traced back to the PARENT!
YWC08uploader 1 year ago 54
@YWC08uploader thank you
skugglerthrash 1 year ago
bob, you are a genius! All this time we have had to defend ourself's because we didn't have any other strategy, a one trick dog so to speak. ( i think that"s the med-afore at least). I wouldn't be surprised if your one of the people who historians remember as the Saviour of our great pastime. in short you just taught a one trick dog a new trick!
mushy2626 1 year ago
The Overthinker, Master Chief, Solid Snake, CJ Johnson and Niko want YOU...
To fight censorship!
mst3k4evur 1 year ago
I sense a small cult starting... *blinks* not sure what that really means, though it poped into my head.
KernsNoel 1 year ago
wow u sure reference 2pac a lot... I LIKE IT
jordancook1992 1 year ago
I had to write a persuasive essay on why video games are harmful to people, and it KILLED me on the inside to have to do that to my hobby. Everything was $#!+; no real facts, no statstics that made sense, and bull claims
tubeview96 1 year ago
This video has inspired me for a year or so now. It's a damn good video.
Cinnaminnamin 1 year ago
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sleepybrownbear 1 year ago
This video instilled in me a deep sense of pride that I can no longer ignore.
I'm too damned tired of the abuse, and I'm too damned sick of the idiots; the naysayers; the soccer moms; Glen fucking Beck.
I'm sick and tired of being pushed around and made out to be an ignorant child.
The time for action has come. Gone are the days of apathy in which I've so blissfully dwelt.
You have inspired me. You have convinced me. This is the last straw.
I'm registering as a Socialist.
DERP.
lumburgapalooza 1 year ago
Parents why was the rating system invented just to say we have it ?
MrBabyD7 1 year ago
Gaines looks exactly like rms
Invisibrah 1 year ago
Funny story: Youth pastors that I've met, (3, to be exact,) use HALO to hang out with high school kids. How many times have you heard of a violent act by a youth group kid that was close to his pastor?
unknowncubicle 1 year ago
You sound EXACTLY like soapy the squirrel around 3:40. Seriously, exact same voice, exact same tone, exact same demeanor.
moongoboom 1 year ago
I find it both funny and sad that people will make Jack Thompson characters in Oblivion and Mortal Kombat to use as punching bag-voodoo dolls. It only gives Jack more ammo, so to speak, against us.
moongoboom 1 year ago
Such a brilliant rant. Subscribed.
brt5470 1 year ago
This was one of the most powerful videos I have ever seen. Not just on Youtube, and not just on the Internet. I mean ever. You are absolutely correct, and thanks to our giant network, we can easily defend our wonderful hobby, and, eventually, they WILL lose.
Calcos323 1 year ago 3
I don't generally like violent video games if they're just all about the violence. I do like some violent video games, such as No More Heroes and House of the Dead Overkill, but not just because of their violence. I also find these games to be absolutely hilarious and clever. I love the creative and weird boss designs and the retro references of No More Heroes, and I love the 1970s exploitation movie theme of House of the Dead Overkill.
CrazyCheeseMagee 1 year ago
The video game industry is never going to get shut down. It's just too big.
I mean, we have the technology to make cars that don't create carbon emissions, but that would be a heavy impact on the oil industry, which has a huge grip on our economy.
unusuallynormal231 1 year ago
I made a title card for this video.
TheDavoo 1 year ago
THANK YOU FOR THE BANDICOOT REFERENCE. That Franchise deserves RESPECT.
TheKevinWalker 1 year ago
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Gang3rs 1 year ago
WE BLEW UP HITLER'S HEAD
dragonfabletomhack 1 year ago
Grand Theft Auto 4 sucked in my opinion, but whatever. Yeah, actions are applied through human thought, not through video games and art.
Siberianhusky89 1 year ago
So if we're going to treat this thing like a war, you know, us as the freedom fighters and them as the oppressive overlords, then can I break out the guns and strap bombs to the houses of our political enemies?
I mean, it's revolution man! We can't let them destroy our industry! IT'S TIME TO FIGHT FOR WHAT WE BELIEVE IN!!!
Or maybe I'm overreacting a bit and that makes me look bad?
joebthegreat 1 year ago 2
@joebthegreat you are absolutly right we need to make a stand and fight for what we belive in and dont let the idiots take it away from us
Gang3rs 1 year ago
So, what the Game overthinker means by 'fighting smart' is to start discussing the moral value of Video games to all the douches?
supermatx 1 year ago
Nope, because honestly, talk to any troll on the internet about anything logical and see what response you get. Honestly, that is what all these anti-video game people are doing. They aren't really bringing up anything important. What they are doing is trolling. We really shouldn't give them the time. Do you know why Jack Thompson lasted so long? Because of us. Trolls feed off of negative emotions, but irony is really their finest cuisine.
edzoologist2 1 year ago
I'd prefer the crowbar to an alien's face, Gordon Freeman meaning, but that's just me. :)
NavesRegg 1 year ago
@supermatx That'd be part of it, anyway. The basic idea is that, if you're able to present yourself as an intelligent, balanced person who is able to put forward a point in a polite and logical manner, you can help represent the gaming culture so much better in the face of society as a whole
In short, strive to be the polar opposite of a typical XBox Live gamer.
TheHeroHartmut 1 year ago
Is there any proof that connects violent games and actual violence?
Well n-
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THERE'S ANY PROOF
weggles 1 year ago
wher is the uncut versin the link isnt workin
animekidbleachnaruto 1 year ago
This video is just plain brilliant. I have disagreed with a number of your topics in the past but this is completely true. I've posted this on a Facebook group called "Gamer's Voice" set up by a UK MP (MP is like a British congressman) is response to the over zealous anti-game propaganda and it's growing.
ThinGuyJoe 1 year ago
Sound the Horn of Gaming!
Prepare to fight a war with FACTS that blow the foundation of weak Clinton, Lieberman, and Thompson arguments.
Accept the Casual Gamers as our allies, like the French were with the Colonists during the American Revolution.
NUMQUAM NON PARATUS!
ninjawraith17 1 year ago
Yeah, I hate Joseph Lieberman. He caucuses with the Democrats and even has a big chairmanship on a Senate DHS committee because of them. In other words, he's pretty powerful. However, he's a traitor to those he caucuses with, threatening to filibuster health care reform legislation. Essentially, he's a right-winger. Why Democrats don't kick him out, I will never know. Oh yes, and he voted for the Communications Decency Act of 1996, which, if it was passed, would censor the internet.
CrazyCheeseMagee 1 year ago
@CrazyCheeseMagee
What does Joseph Lieberman's supposed "evil right winger" status have to do with gaming?
joebthegreat 1 year ago
I wonder what Jack Thompson is up to now. We haven't really heard from him since he got disbarred. I'm surprised he hasn't been up in arms about No More Heroes and Madworld, the latter actually gaining a lot of controversy, for instance, not being released in Germany and also upsetting the National Institute on Media and the Family. I assume a lot of it has to do with Nintendo's traditionally family-friendly image.
CrazyCheeseMagee 1 year ago
I think this has been deleted from ScrewAttack.
lolubentrold 1 year ago
@lolubentrold I've noticed that too. Why would that be?
CrazyCheeseMagee 1 year ago
To paraphrase a famous saying all All that is necessary for the triumph of idiot believers need is for smart thinkers to do nothing. We have to fight them other wise you have McCarthyism part 2.
Maximara 1 year ago
now we know. and knowing is half the battle. G.I. JOE!
zeong542 1 year ago 2
@zeong542 A real American Hero, G.I. JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEE!!!
Couldn't resist :P
hobbit2245 1 year ago
this is more or less true, but the last half resembled propaganda a little bit. just saying.
bonfire300 2 years ago
should have mentioned silent hill 2 and indie game devs
kikeb0y 2 years ago
i learned alot
satsugekibukouken 2 years ago
The problem with the anti-gaming side of the argument is that they see correlation as causation. Someone should ask these people, what do they think is worse? Realist violence (where you see all the blood and gore) or unrealistic violence (where you shoot someone in the face 12 times and they just fall over with no blood or sign of pain)?
Tatorman09 2 years ago
GORDON FREEMAN=FIGHTING SMART.
h3adcrabbio 2 years ago 51
doctor mario any one?
ninjamario412 2 years ago
In GTA4, when you drunk drive, the cops will come after you and it's impossible to drive straight. If anything, it's a message to NOT drink and drive!
Lunarvx22 2 years ago 55
@Lunarvx22 or else you lose your guns and have to put the cheats back in
falconpunch10 1 year ago
@Lunarvx22 But as bob said, it doesn't have to senda ny message to not do this and that because the game designed with all the weapons and killing, rockstar knew what they were doing.
WobblyBoy1031 9 months ago
Logic "is" the best weapon.
WhyteSpectre 2 years ago 4
i used this video as a reference in my anthro essay about censorship. thank you game overthinker
lookkop 2 years ago 3
What exactly can we do about this, however? Send this video to our friends and families and possibly email or call our representatives about the details concerning this debate and what's going on today?
Ghaleonh41 2 years ago
no, never start any type of discussion or debate. Wait for the ''anti-gamers'' to attack, then you can defend your side by letting them know how wrong they are about everything.
pablofmc 2 years ago 3
You know during this kind of reminds me of the the Mohammed cartoon controversy a while back ago. Some people in the middle east decided to throw Molotov cocktails at Danish embassies to protest that the portrayal of Muslims as being violent.
ToAruShiroiNeko 2 years ago 2
They probably had a point. In fact few people would say otherwise. Cartoon for the most part was really really bad as in unfunny aside from being outright racist. But the moment Molotov cocktails started flinging around like a cricket infestation, they lost their key advantage. They were trying to prove that Muslims are in fact not any more violent than any other religion.
ToAruShiroiNeko 2 years ago
South Park did an episode about it, as I recall, a two-parter actually. It was a message-heavy episode, but I think it was great.
As they said, it's not enough to just believe in free speech, it needs to be defended in the worst of times as well as the best of times, or we allow the opposition to believe we can and will shy from our beliefs at the first sign of controversy. Either we can say anything, or we should say nothing. There can be no compromise when freedom is at stake.
JJMDude 1 year ago
@JJMDude What was the episode about, exactly?
LuckySharm 1 year ago
@LuckySharm Family Guy trying to show Muhammad in one of their non-sequitur scenes and getting censored. It was South Park criticizing what had happened to their show in an episode where something similar happened after that Danish cartoonist riled up Al Queida. The argument in the episode was that it was wrong and un-American to censor, especially under threats of violence, because doing so ALLOWS terrorism to work. And if we don't defend free speech, we're forfeiting our human rights.
JJMDude 1 year ago
@ToAruShiroiNeko 6:35 I don't mean to pick nits or anything, but a little over a century ago we were in the 1800's not 1950's! MUCH respect Bob!
Mapleholic 1 year ago
Actually In my oppinion answer is yes/
DBZmaster0123 2 years ago
god yes finally some one gets it! finally!!!!
KenshiImmortalWolf 2 years ago
A perfect example of how to fight back by being smart is the fox news debate on Mass Effect. The way Gieoff Keighly responds to the accusations was amazing. Also, this guys right about fanboys. We should be supporting each other as gamers as a whole.
PimblyCharles 2 years ago 3
yes, we should
VORARATH200 2 years ago
bioshock is a steam punk version of system shock 2
crustymethaddict 2 years ago
and you cribbed that from Yahtzee. Don't play off other people's work and pass it off as yours own. That's called plagiarism douchebag.
sinisterhunter 2 years ago
this video is great!
grantkerr94 2 years ago
I would love to send this video to my congres smen or senators
coolgeek35 2 years ago
@coolgeek35 Whats stopping you?
Drega001 2 years ago
it's only me, but I'm getting annyed on how he keeps on mentioning BioShock and obectivism it's like that's his answer for everything
coolgeek35 2 years ago
@coolgeek35 well if u have played bioshock, which u probably have, u already know it is the sweetest game ever! :) thats y it is the answer to everything. Q.what would u like to play A. bioshock Q, what is the best game A Bioshock Q,what is the capital of sweeden A, BIOSHCOK!..........o wait soz
gstev19 2 years ago
@coolgeek35 If you answered 2+2 with 4 would you get annoyed. If its such a problem then give him another example to use.
Drega001 2 years ago
Overthinker, you are awesome! Because of what you said, you made me even proud to be a gamer than I ever was. I agree that we should separate ourselves from those who cuss at Xbox Live and show them politcians what we really are.
nemesis274 2 years ago
you look like fucking john goodman in tbl
GHoooSTS 2 years ago
Bob, Overthinker, whatever you wish to be called. Where have you been all my life? I guess it really does take us old gamers to be able to see and think of things this way, but more so to try and galvanize those after us.
I hadn't seen you until maybe a few weeks ago for the first time, but that "subscribe" button couldn't have been hit any faster. I studied censorship in school and couldn't have been more horrified at how it keeps repeating on everything. Race, sexuality and media.
ShinobiPhoenix 2 years ago
9:53
you TOTALLY interrupted your live action self! That was very rude, Moviebob, you should apologize to LiveActionBob. He finally makes an appearance in your videos and you treat him like a non-right wing pundit on Fox News! That is bad form sir!
Norvolo 2 years ago
6:36
a little over HALF century ago you nib
lol jay kay jay kay
Mapleholic 2 years ago
I think it's interesting that you compared Jackshit and friends to seduction of the innocent.
madcowyup 2 years ago
Nice vid!!
98765432123456781000 2 years ago
Anybody know what game the screenshot at 4:35 is taken from?
Bergm138 2 years ago
that's pheonix wright MUTHAFUCKAH
PrivateZulen 2 years ago
Amen to that, movie Bob
cpu46 2 years ago
Could you (or anyone) please tell me where you got the information in regards to the facts that you stated. I would like it to help in a paper I'm writing that mentions violence in video games.
metalicandupbeat 2 years ago
what an eloquent argument! well said
larkfeathers 2 years ago 3
I never fought dr. kortex? :(
vfmc77 2 years ago
you never play crash bandicoot?
BonusRoundTube 2 years ago
Not in its prime.
vfmc77 2 years ago
Wow he actually made a halo reference usually he just insults it
Wiiiiiiilliam 2 years ago
You know what's weird? You mentioned "violent" games like Grand Theft Auto, BioShock, Assassin's Creed, and No More Heroes, but what about Manhunt, which not only depicts gruesome acts of violence, but shows exactly how to do so to get the best results. I mean, the Wii version even have you use the Wii Remote as a a knife and use it in a stabbing motion. How do I fight against that?
Rubberman202 2 years ago 3
'd say screw em. Yes there are inexcusably gratuitous games, but THAT is their entire point. They exist to rile up controversies and we don't owe them any favors for it, but to say video games are somehow the ONE genre where this is unsound you are placing it above a pedestal higher than any religious text.
J3n50 2 years ago
Ahh, okay.
Rubberman202 2 years ago
IF you're going to punish Manhunt for it you have to do so to Sin City and James Bond. Heck why not start at the source? Disband the military as its the prime candidate for the glorification of violence and has certainly trained more killers than video games. By their logic everyone who grew up in the 90s is already a ferocious psychopath so what do we need them for anyway?
J3n50 2 years ago
well there's always one or two exceptions to the rule, like that game designed to recreate the Kennedy assassination. But we must remember that games like Manhunt are the exception and not the rule. Also, it's controversy and it really is Rockstar's bread and butter at the end of the day
SDZer0 2 years ago
What game was that?
Rubberman202 2 years ago
Granted the WAY JFK: Reloaded was done was in extremely bad taste but the game could have worked if instead of playing the gunman you the role of one of the witnesses or better yet the role of an investigator limited to 1963 technology with a random element to deal with the Grassy Knoll and other ideas.
Maximara 2 years ago
AHH! A painting of Mona Lisa! It's so violent!!!
ZEROGAME53 2 years ago
I already know who my senators and reps are:
Senators:
Mitch McConnell (R-Ky)
Jim Bunning (R-Ky)
Representative:
John Yarmuth (D-3)
MaverickHunter40245 2 years ago
Woohoo, thanks for listening to us, Mister Bob, and posting your new videos on YouTube. As always, fantastic and hilarious video. However, you should look up the "Bobo the Clown experiment", since you said that no study has come CLOSE. I do agree with you for the most part, but you made a fairly outrageous claim, and you should probably look it up if you haven't seen it already.
I'm kind of sad, actually. It's the first time I've ever disagreed with you, even a little bit. :<
suzywao 2 years ago
Wanted to be clear, I completely agree that the gamers are right and the non gamers are wrong, I'm only taking issue with your word choice. XD
suzywao 2 years ago
the last few lines inspired me "WE BLEW UP
HITLER"S HEAD!!!!!
maceinfaceinc 2 years ago 4
funny, I actually stumbled upon this revelation a couple of years ago, but never was able to articulate it as well as this.
Jimmawww 2 years ago 2
Sorry meant to say censorship not governorship.
brtx692 2 years ago
This is a bad day indeed for the USA. Videogames do not cause violence. However videogames do cause frustration on some levels and this could be used as basis by some people for violence. Oddly far off but a lawyer can do amazing things with it.
To be honest, this whole governorship is more political than psychological. Some political guy would want to use videogames as his selling point for the next election for I see.
brtx692 2 years ago
i now believe in moviebob
gtaivpc 2 years ago 2
ever thought about trying to be a speaker on one of these news show?
I know they are very bised but in the usa you guys have spike t.v right? I do think that will be the best stepping stone, as its a "dude" channel but its the nearest thing you guys have.
gamesdisk 2 years ago
cos its aways been kids who play videogames throughout history who cause most violence....
maggot432 2 years ago
maggot432
I feel that it more of "kids" upbringing who are violent you speak of history but its only a resent thing, videogame players from the bit era are more the target of violence rather then the one who its about.
Gamers who game for long peridos of time every day are likey to be the outcasts and I find the more sporty ones who start on the slope of fighting, robbery and bullying.
Gun crime has been around since guns.
Knife has been around since knifes.
its about the person not the meida
gamesdisk 2 years ago
I was being sarcastic
maggot432 2 years ago
this is the best video i have ever seen
Evoloution1 2 years ago
Video games should be judged on the same level as movies, TV shows, and music. They are a scapegoat for causing children to be violent. Video games are not the cause of violent children. That is caused by bad parenting
theJMBgamer 2 years ago 2
not always bad parenting, some people are just born crazy, thats nature vs nurter
gamesdisk 2 years ago
You've lost weight. Looking good dude. Looking forward to episode 26.
AlkalineLoris 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Yes, We can
Ragnarokstorymaker 2 years ago
I have watched all of your vids(minus the 2 or 3 the age restriction is up on), and I HONESTLY agree with all of your opinions(except for Fat Buu being the best in DBZ. XD(Bardock=epic)). And I ALSO agree that we all should do what we can. If things heat up even more, I might just be tempted to send them emails. Seriously.
You sir, are an inspiration.
XxKidGoku13xX 2 years ago
Thank God, the one on ScrewAttack had messed up audio!
Rubberman202 2 years ago