In a real fight, is somebody bites you then you are gonna let go of any move they have on on you, a real bite is meant to tear meat off, I don't think Holyfield was feeling like punching much with his ear laying in the ring.
biting works great to make the opponent stop trying to break your arm. but if he breaks it first, there is no biting. you still have to learn how to defend an armbar. after you have prevented your arm from being broken, biting is a great move.
just biting its like saying to stop a boxer you gouge out his eye so he cant see you. but what if he punches you before you can attack his eyes
@shoulung yea. biting is very situational, its naive to think you can just walk up to an olympic wrestler and bite him without problem. but if you can wrestle too, u may end in some positions where biting can be usefull. but really time is much better spend practising some basic striking and grappling
If you really believe that a bite will save your ass in this situation, you never felt the sensation of your arm breaking slowly. It's dificult to bite while you're screaming.
People always say well "the other guy can bite him or he can eye poke the mma guy etc"... the MMA/BJJ guy can ALSO do those things in addition to all the techniques he knows
@MrTrauMMA how so? He's creating a lever by pushing down with his top leg on the elbow and pulling up on the wrist with his hands. Just cause it's applied different than the usual bjj arm bar you see in mma today, doesn't mean it's incorrect.
why the fuck do people base the efficiency of jeet kune doo and Bruce off of bullshit choreographed moves? does anyone beside me see the flaw in that or am i the only person born before 92 on here?
through out the 90's and present i most admit that i've fallen for the MMA combat sports, reasons being they don't claim to be the best/real thing that happening through over done old shit action movies. no, see they actually organize fights and fight. kinda key in both worlds or did you forget?
@snizshizzle are you stupid? if you have a detached achilles tendon not only will you be in so much pain, you wont be able to stand. If i had a broken arm or a detached achilles I would take the arm as long as I can kick and i have one other arm to defend im still fine. If you cant stand YOU ARE FUCKED. Idiot
@snizshizzle Still you because that arm bar wasnt anything. his arm would not have been broken maybe a little sore but not broken. Who's still the idiot?
@BubbleBlast7 matter of fact it is, i got into a fight in the streets, no lie, i beat the shit out of two guys who were messing with me while i was jogging around the park, Jeet Kune Do is mainly to prepare for anything outside the sport, I don't do it to go and beat people up, it's not in my heart, i do it if i have to and i try to make it quick, I practice Jeet Kune Do to help myself physically and emotionally.
Yes, but MMA is a sport. Remember, Bruce Lee's art of Jeet Kune Do was used for self-defense and not sport - amongst other things such as fitness, expression, lifestyle, philosophy etc. Though his movies don't show Jeet Kune Do 100%. He tends to do alot of high kicks in his movies - which are just for show/entertainment. Bruce Lee often trained his students in low kicks or groin kicks.
Yes, but MMA is a sport. Remember, Bruce Lee's art of Jeet Kune Do was used for self-defense and not sport - amongst other things such as fitness, expression, lifestyle, philosophy etc. Though his movies don't show Jeet Kune Do 100%. He tends to do alot of high kicks in his movies - which are just for show/entertainment. Bruce Lee often trained his students in low kicks or groin kicks.
lol at all the comments criticizing the dudes armbar technique, i bet your the same type of people who watch a movie and say "those special effects looks so fake" , enjoy it for what it is an old school cheesy bruce lee movie
@dalhousie44 I think your right but the overall point that he is making here is that in a real fight being on the ground is not a good place to be. The bite changes things very quickly.
@OVERCAPITALIZE it is imposible to make an armbr if yor stomach is facing upward, and the stomach of your opponent is facing down, to make an armbaryou have to place your legs across the opponent’s chest, with one of his arms between your thighs and with the elbow joint against your hips. then you have to grabb the oponnent´s arm and arch your hips. if you do everything right, you can easily break an arm.
@780460020014 - Not impossible. As the guy in the video was doing, he brought his left knee to Bruce's elbow in order to apply downward pressure on the elbow. It would just be difficult to do, because that would't be too hard to slip out of. So not impossible, just probably very hard to do. In my opinion.
For all of you trolls who are bitching about BJJ and MMA... if I put you in an armbar outside of training the last thing on your mind is to bite me. Obviously you've never been put in an armbar - an armbar isn't something you slowly apply, you snap it on and hyper extend at the elbow. You can bite me all you want after that, because you'll only have one arm left to fight with.
@uckushtar All I hear is the clicking of your keys typing up shit all. I've never seen a real streel fight, bar brawl, school yard fight and someone pulls of an armbar. You can get all technical and armbar me, last thing you might remember seeing before going in a coma is my boys kicking your head in while we're on the ground. See, that's a real life fight, life's never fair.
If your double jointed, biting could save your life haha jk. I forgot the guy's name but in UFC Versus i think? He escaped so alot of armbars during this one match cause he was very flexible, it looked grossed. lol
Some of you commenting are stupid shit cause you watch too much MMA ... In a real life streat fight, and the other guys got you in an arm bar like Bruce is in now... Do you honestly think if you tapped he'll let go of the hold? FUCK NO! so based on Bruce's current position, it only makes sense to try and bite off a piece of that guys leg. Don't think getting bit hurts? bite your arm as hard as you can... reply back with how many seconds before you screamed.
@tom8me it takes seconds to snap an arm. if you started biting, you would be 100% sure to get a broken bone before long. then the submission guy would let go and stop the bite, but you now lie on the ground with a broken arm
sure biting can be useful but dont make it sound like a superweapon
@MuayThaiViking Why do you think real mma fighters don't fight outside the ring? cause anything goes fool... try a headlock on me and feel how hard I'll kick you in the balls. Don't assume I'm all for biting but a broken arm can heal, a bitten off finger or other body part doesn't grow back, think about it...
say what? here we got a lightweight beating up a huge black guy who suckerpunched a woman. according to witnesses, roger beat him up brutally, but he wasnt charged of assault by the black guy. cause obviously that would mean the black guy would get charged of assault as well
anyway its nice to shut stupid up with a single link. im glad i teached you something new
@MuayThaiViking You are in the true sense of the word, an idiot. Roger Huerta must be your brother from another mother. In return I'll let GSP teach you the meaning of what being a TRUE mma fighter is about when it goes to street fights.
@tom8me i really cant see your point. i like GSP a lot, he is one of my favorite martial artists in general. that guy could easily defend himself as well, even better than Roger
i simply proved you wrong after you said that MMA fighters cant/dont fight outside the cage. then you called me an idiot. dont worry its a natural reaction. people nowadays have forgotten the point in arguing. if they end up ''losing'', they get mad, instead of being thankful for learning something new. oh well..
@tom8me if you knew GSP you would know he is the nicest guy around. why would he dishonor himself into fighting some random drunks on the street friday night. no doubt he would tear them apart, but its not what he believes in
i think violence and people trying to pick a fight is pathetic as well, but if you have trained basic boxing and wrestling you are a long way ahead, compared to someone who has never trained anything
@MuayThaiViking You should keep replies short and sweet, I'm not getting mad, I just treat you the way I treat my ex girlfriends... shut up, don't waste my time, now go fuck yourself.
@MuayThaiViking wasn't he using Huerta defending someone? That seems pretty just and like the kind of thing a martial artist should do, to me. Protecting the weak and such.
@TheTerrorUforgot yes but now when i read my comment, i can see i expressed myself in a bad way. didnt refer to Roger when i wrote ''fighting some random drunks on the street friday night''
@tom8me On streetfights, GSP just said "I've probably been in more streetfights than he has in his entire life. He has no idea the demon I have inside of me. People don't know how dark my mind can get sometimes." - about Nick Diaz. A few words might get mixed up but meh
The Gracies always say respect the punch, or in this case the bite. You never know what someone will do in a street fight so best be prepared for anything. There are ways to pull off an armbar without leaving yourself open to the bite attack.
Also, Bruce Lee understood the effectiveness of grapplinng and even trained with Judo Gene Lebel. Bruce thought grappling techniques were not exciting enough for the movies so he used them sparingly. Watch the armbar Bruce uses in the begining of E.T.D.
THis worked beleive me I tryed it! I got locked once in a fight if It wern't for the bite and followed by a right cross to the guys jaw I wouln've been choked out! cause i ain't no fool!
if I were pulling off the armbar and had it lock in postion than got bitten, I would just crank the arm even more till it breaks because I would be pissed off as hell
the potential of damage from a bite is they take a chunk out of you, the potential damage of a armbar is they break your arm then twist till they get bored and you wont be using that arm ever again. Unless they have rabies (lol!) or bite somewhere fatal or bite your jibblets off the armbar is going to cause more damage and pain (FYI rabies shots hurt like a porcupine crawling up ur ass, BACKWARDS!)
Keep in mind folks....martial arts has evolved and improved since Bruce was alive. And when folks like Shamrock, Rutten, Silva die we'll look back and laugh at them too. When their successors improve current day techniques.
listen people, its a movie, so dont take it as truth haters and fanboys alike, plus, who the hell would try a armbar on the street? seriously that would be stupid, to me bjj is pure sport, pure, try a flying armbar on the pavement lol or try it with out a wieght class, to me bjj is useless with out an other art to make up what bjj lacks in. P.S try jeet kune do now thats fun stuff.
You bitches saying the biting won't work, your dumbasses or S and M lovers. That shit works everytime, like pulling hair or kicking the nuts. That's why they took that shit out of UFC, PXC, etc. You guys are fucking dumb, if you broke my arm, my teeth would fuck your leg up. Its human nature to let go of a hold, when someone bites you. So shut your dumbasses up!!!
@calinaganking If they bit you, the damage would already be done. You would take damage and let them go instead of getting hurt and really f*#cking them up? It just takes pushing your hips out slightly.
@cheshirepat30 I see what your saying, but as a human I wouldn't wanna get bitten and I've been bitten before and broke my arm. Bites were worse. If I was in a real fight, not sanctioned, I would never consider using an armbar. If i did get bitten, I would probably bite him back. Naturally, I would let go, but then ground and pound his face. Breaking his arm, doesn't seem to be "getting even". You can always heal an arm, but you might need surgery for a bite and a possible rabies shot.
@calinaganking An arm bar breaks the arm backward at the elbow. That is a nasty break. Also, there is no way to know if the opponent will let you go just because you let them go. I recommend getting somebody with training put you in an arm bar so you can see what I mean.
@cheshirepat30 An arm bar breaks the arm backward at the elbow. That is a nasty break. Also, there is no way to know if the opponent will let you go just because you let them go.
its a street fight bite him poke his eyes out. fuck this pussy mma shit. kill each other or dont fight..we are fucking animals. just like a dog. you dont tell a dog not to bite. everything on our body is a weapon that should be used to protect us you dont want to get bit dont fight. that was a pro arm bar escape.
@Algorhythmmm hell yea in a street fight bite him etc and people who watch mma etc get caught up in the technique etc but i think people are talking about the technique because that arm bar wasnt a real armbar it was like something from wrestling, buces arm is the wrong way round, he couldnt break it if he tried
@Algorhythmmm - if I have the arm bar locked in and you try to bite me, punch me in the balls, or gauge my eyes then I will definitely break your arm. No grappler/mma guy worth his salt would let go if the lock was that secure because the arm break would be so easy at that point.
@amenra13 It's sad people actually don't realize this. If anyone puts a shred of thought into the matter, they'd know how stupid it would be to bite someone when he's got you in an armbar. The time it takes the BJJ practicioner to extend his hips is worlds shorter compared to the time it would take someone to bite you into releasing your grip. Really, biting only antagonizes your opponent further so he'll break your arm even quicker then he normally would.
your thick and obviously know shit about fighting,, if i bit you would would let go regardless... cause a bite hurts alot and in your mind you think if i dont let go,, he is going to bite a chunk out of me.. your just a stupid bruce lee hater get the fuck of the video fool
Bruce Lee is not in ring as far as I can see in this scene also he never trained sports, JKD is not a sport nor wingchun. Also in real situation without rules this would be the most effective way, coz there is no time to react in real situation, in the other hand in ring where you go only for that intention but anyone who has something against this cant never be a good martial artist or a figher. Your Body is a weapon if you dont use it all and wisely your weapon can crash.
That's not martial arts.And this is not an armbar.And if the guy holding his arm break his fingers,i bet he wont be able to bite while he is screaming.
You don't have to be bruce lee to use dirty moves.
For street fights,krav maga is the most effective.
And even using bjj,if the guy really get an armbar,breaking Lee's arm will be easier than bruce make him give up just because of the biting pain.
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first of all that is a very bad arm bar technique that is not the way you should do it !! second this video looks like i just took some acid and watched it , it's all blurry and fucked up
If I have you in an armbar, and you can't escape, and start biting my leg, I'm going to straight up give your arm a new way to bend. I'd rather be missing a bigmouth's size chunk of leg than have my elbow move like a noodle, just sayin'. I feel I could probably still roll with a bite out of my leg, but not with an elbow out of my arm. Love Bruce Lee though... he'd probably roll most of us out.
alright enough all of u fighting most of the moves in Bjj come from Kung fu dont beilve me check out shaolin wrestling and chin na and Tiger style grappling and even dog fighting all these are forms ground fighting and top of this do u really think grapling and ground fighting was left out of the picture for that many years man has been fighting since the dawn of time problem is we dont train those martial arts as we use
@tonyvalente "Lee trained with Wally jay and gene Lebell. Trust me, he knew how to do arm bars. His point was that sometimes, you must do whatever to survive."
There are many different ways to get out of an arm bar without having to sacrifice your arm. Arm bar escapes are BJJ 101. If you are actually considering biting to get out of an arm bar (which will not work), then you are not a very skilled grappler.
Wait wait wait hang on. You're ACTUALLY saying that ALL traditional martial arts are shit and the only good grappling art is BJJ? I'm going to respond to this, but please please correct me if I'm wrong. First of all, Jiu Jitsu is what BJJ is based on. It worked pretty fucking well for centuries, and it's not a problem inherent with the system if it gets watered down. Second - Judo, and Sambo are both great when it comes to groundwork, and Judo is more applicable in a real scenario.
@119Elias119 "Wait wait wait hang on. You're ACTUALLY saying that ALL traditional martial arts are shit and the only good grappling art is BJJ?"
No you fucking moron. Please quote exactly which of my words made you think this.
"First of all, Jiu Jitsu is what BJJ is based on."
No it is not. It is based on Judo. JJJ is Judo's roots but JJJ has been proven to be crappy since Kano's time. There's a reason the most popular Jiu-jitsu in Japan is BJJ.
@Ljenkins9000 Wow you really are a fucking idiot, considering that Judo is also based on Jiu Jitsu.
Kano? I don't know who the fuck that is. I've only dabbled with grappling, I'm a striker.
You seem to agree with my second point.
You ought to turn down the nastiness you rude fuck. I didn't insult you even though you've been absolutely cunty to everyone in all your replies. Go get yourself a blowjob man, it seems like you need it.
@119Elias119 "Wow you really are a fucking idiot, considering that Judo is also based on Jiu Jitsu"
Oh gawd. The never-ending "Judo comes from Jujutsu, therefore JJJ isn't completely worthless crap". Sorry, but yes it is. JJJ guys generally have no clue what they're doing on the ground due to no sparring experience. This is pretty common in JJJ everywhere.
Kano took from hundreds of competely different JJJ styles and invented Judo.
"You ought to turn down the nastiness you rude fuck. I didn't insult you"
No, but you did put words in my mouth which I never said and could not possibly be inferred by someone with half a brain from what I did say:
"You're ACTUALLY saying that ALL traditional martial arts are shit and the only good grappling art is BJJ?"
I would never say that. Sambo, Judo and Wrestling are other good grappling arts, and along with those, Sanda, Kyokushin, Boxing and Muay Thai are good TMAs.
@119Elias119 Oh and yes I do disagree with your "if it ain't broke don't fix it" argument about JJJ being used well for centuries. You assume that just because it existed it must have actually been used properly in war. The truth is the whole thing about samurai using JJJ is a myth.
"Go get yourself a blowjob man, it seems like you need it."
@Ljenkins9000 - I can't seem to find it right now (it might have been flagged as spam or deleted, surprise surprise) but you said something along the lines of 'TMA fighters just don't get grappling.' You still maintain that JJJ is useless. Prove it. I'm not asking for links to peer reviewed articles or anything, but prove it.
"You still maintain that JJJ is useless. Prove it. I'm not asking for links to peer reviewed articles or anything, but prove it."
So you want me to prove it but you will not allow me to use the only evidence we have of proving this stuff? JJJ is a relic of the past. Kano proved his Judo would beat any JJJ practitioner about 120 years ago when he had those dojo wars between the JJJ guys who rarely sparred and his Judo guys who sparred all the time. Since then JJJ mostly died off in Japan.
@Ljenkins9000 - Hmmmm you sound like someone trying to prove evolution is false, except you're more convincing.
Link me to an article that says 'JJJ mostly dead in Japan' or something, or a couple of videos of different fights between judo practitioners and jiu jitsu practitioners. Otherwise we'll just have to agree to disagree. Shit I'll even accept statistics that say that BJJ is more popular than JJJ in Japan. I've googled it, but can't find it, I'm assuming you know where to look...
@119Elias119 "Hmmmm you sound like someone trying to prove evolution is false, except you're more convincing."
Wow. Don't know how I missed this, but, the problem with your analogy is that evolution is the side supported by mountains of scientific evidence. Same with my argument (which is supported by mountains of empirical evidence from all style vs style, no-rules fights over the last 120 years). In both cases the other side completely lacks any scientific evidence (yours and creationism).
@Ljenkins9000 - Oh, man, you've totally misinterpreted what I said!! What I'm saying is "You sound like a creationist trying to prove evolution wrong, except you're clearly not full of shit." Anyway, you seem to be a smart bloke who knows his fight science and regular science decently, so mad respect from me, even though we disagree on the Jiu Jitsu thing. Catchya.
@Ljenkins9000 - Oh nah that was a joke. I asked you for a video or an article or something to prove what you said (cause your argument seems solid) and you said that all you had were you've already shown (some statistics) and if I was gonna ignore that then I was ignoring all your evidence.
Sort of how everyone says to creationists "prove creationism, without citing the bible" and they go "can't do it."
The difference being they're full of shit and you don't appear to be.
@Ljenkins9000 I did a google search, a google, map search, and a dojo search, and found more jujutsu dojo's than BJJ schools in Japan. Tokugawa Jujutsu Dojo, KEISATSU JUJUTSU DOJO, TRI-FORCE AOYAMA JIU-JITSU STUDIO (which also teaches BJJ) Jujutsu has been important in Japan, since the samurai. If it saved lives then, do you really think thugs have changed how they punch today?
@Ljenkins9000 By the way, timeline wise it goes Jujutsu>Judo>Aikido>BJJ. Judo isn't a form of jujustu because it goes out of it's way to be non lethal, where as Jujutsu was devised purely to kill and cripple. If judo isn't jujutsu, how can you say that an art derived from judo is a form of jujutsu? Helio and Carlos never studied Jujutsu in their lives, only Judo. So technqiue wise, lineage wise, and parentage wise, BJJ has nothing to do with jujutsu, only judo.
@KurtCobain198666 That may be but TKD also came after Judo. Doesn't mean it has anything to do with it or that it is better or worse. I don't understand why you brought it up I guess.
@Ljenkins9000 Because aikido and judo are closely related. Cousins you could say. Judo came from jujutsu, and aikido came from aikijujutsu which came from jujutsu. I brought it up because BJJ has a misleading name, it has nothing to do with jujutsu. You can't get an effective fighting method is all you've learnt is useless. Gracie learnt Judo then developed BJJ. It's not Jujutsu because jujutsu has never been a combat sport like BJJ.
@KurtCobain198666 "I brought it up because BJJ has a misleading name, it has nothing to do with jujutsu."
The reason it's called Jiu-Jitsu (instead of Brazilian Judo, which would make more sense) is because when Maeda was teaching Judo to the Gracies, the name "Judo" had not caught on. Judo had just distinguished itself from Jujutsu shortly before that. Yes, I agree that they are so different they should have different names, but I don't know why people get so stuck on it.
@Ljenkins9000 And by the way, comparing judo and aikido is like comparing fire and water. They're taught in totally different mind frames, for different reasons. But Jigoro Kano greatly admired Ueshiba, the founder of Aikido, and said of Aikido: Now this is Budo. He wouldn't study Aikido himself because of the age gap between Ueshiba and himself, but he was so greatly taken by it that he sent students to train with Ueshiba. Students like Kenji Tomiki, 8th dan in judo and aikido
Nobody would let go from a bite. They would snap his arm before letting go.
TheTerrorUforgot 3 weeks ago
In a real fight, is somebody bites you then you are gonna let go of any move they have on on you, a real bite is meant to tear meat off, I don't think Holyfield was feeling like punching much with his ear laying in the ring.
MrMastadon3 1 month ago
U guys are retarded down there
GamingCrewX 2 months ago
biting works great to make the opponent stop trying to break your arm. but if he breaks it first, there is no biting. you still have to learn how to defend an armbar. after you have prevented your arm from being broken, biting is a great move.
just biting its like saying to stop a boxer you gouge out his eye so he cant see you. but what if he punches you before you can attack his eyes
shoulung 2 months ago
@shoulung yea. biting is very situational, its naive to think you can just walk up to an olympic wrestler and bite him without problem. but if you can wrestle too, u may end in some positions where biting can be usefull. but really time is much better spend practising some basic striking and grappling
MuayThaiViking 1 month ago
In real life, he would've really bitten a piece of meat off that leg. They need to give human teeth more credit.
tep2005 2 months ago
If you really believe that a bite will save your ass in this situation, you never felt the sensation of your arm breaking slowly. It's dificult to bite while you're screaming.
kinaxzz 3 months ago
coward
nevets7921 3 months ago
@nevets7921 fuck off you idiot how is he a coward? i would like to see you get in a armbar and escape it
1SugarRayRobinson1 3 months ago
People always say well "the other guy can bite him or he can eye poke the mma guy etc"... the MMA/BJJ guy can ALSO do those things in addition to all the techniques he knows
Cantorious 3 months ago
horrible technique on the arm bar...the arm was way too far to really even apply any pressure
MrTrauMMA 3 months ago
@MrTrauMMA how so? He's creating a lever by pushing down with his top leg on the elbow and pulling up on the wrist with his hands. Just cause it's applied different than the usual bjj arm bar you see in mma today, doesn't mean it's incorrect.
syncopoly 3 months ago
why the fuck do people base the efficiency of jeet kune doo and Bruce off of bullshit choreographed moves? does anyone beside me see the flaw in that or am i the only person born before 92 on here?
through out the 90's and present i most admit that i've fallen for the MMA combat sports, reasons being they don't claim to be the best/real thing that happening through over done old shit action movies. no, see they actually organize fights and fight. kinda key in both worlds or did you forget?
supernova92024 4 months ago
@supernova92024 so because you were born in 92, you think youre grown? lol
javensme1 3 months ago
Broken arm vs. detached Achilles tendon? Broken arm wins.
snizshizzle 4 months ago
@snizshizzle arms dont always break from an armbar.
crabbit87 4 months ago
@crabbit87 dislocation and destroyed ligaments and shredded tendon and muscle aren't a fun either
supernova92024 4 months ago
@snizshizzle are you stupid? if you have a detached achilles tendon not only will you be in so much pain, you wont be able to stand. If i had a broken arm or a detached achilles I would take the arm as long as I can kick and i have one other arm to defend im still fine. If you cant stand YOU ARE FUCKED. Idiot
RedRaider8493 2 months ago
@RedRaider8493
Hey fuckface. Learn how to read. I said the person with the broken arm wins. Who's the idiot now.
snizshizzle 2 months ago
@snizshizzle Still you because that arm bar wasnt anything. his arm would not have been broken maybe a little sore but not broken. Who's still the idiot?
RedRaider8493 2 months ago
@RedRaider8493 LOL YOU ARE THE IDIOT!
kaylercj 2 months ago
@kaylercj Took you awhile to comment back....IDIOT
RedRaider8493 2 months ago
@BubbleBlast7 matter of fact it is, i got into a fight in the streets, no lie, i beat the shit out of two guys who were messing with me while i was jogging around the park, Jeet Kune Do is mainly to prepare for anything outside the sport, I don't do it to go and beat people up, it's not in my heart, i do it if i have to and i try to make it quick, I practice Jeet Kune Do to help myself physically and emotionally.
guitarrocker1 4 months ago
lmao
ITTAlfred 4 months ago
Dragon bite to the leg. Ouch.
Yamtendo 4 months ago 10
"But don't make a PLAN of biting...THAT is a very good way to lose your teeth"
darthkahn45 4 months ago
Tiger Bite.
ravennight97 4 months ago
I would be so pissed off that i would probably rip his bloddy arm off (or wouldn't feel his bite- I love my army boots :D)
TurboRatownik 4 months ago
it really works just happend to me!
thrasher1100 4 months ago
if you're fighting on the street bite, pull hair, throw sand on eyes, spit and use everything you have on your hand jajajja
elgemelo000 5 months ago
YOU BITE !
bigfatdick5000 5 months ago
@bigfatdick5000 thats not fair!! im not playing anymore
QofLife69 5 months ago
That would've been a 1 point deduction in MMA.
gotsport 5 months ago
@gotsport
Yes, but MMA is a sport. Remember, Bruce Lee's art of Jeet Kune Do was used for self-defense and not sport - amongst other things such as fitness, expression, lifestyle, philosophy etc. Though his movies don't show Jeet Kune Do 100%. He tends to do alot of high kicks in his movies - which are just for show/entertainment. Bruce Lee often trained his students in low kicks or groin kicks.
TheGlowingKnight 5 months ago
@TheGlowingKnight not to mention that he knows other fighting styles
guyofda90s 5 months ago
@gotsport
Yes, but MMA is a sport. Remember, Bruce Lee's art of Jeet Kune Do was used for self-defense and not sport - amongst other things such as fitness, expression, lifestyle, philosophy etc. Though his movies don't show Jeet Kune Do 100%. He tends to do alot of high kicks in his movies - which are just for show/entertainment. Bruce Lee often trained his students in low kicks or groin kicks.
TheGlowingKnight 5 months ago
@TheGlowingKnight Bruce Lee's art of Jeet Kune Do was used for MOVIES. Useless in a real fight, grow up kid.
780460020014 3 months ago
that was a really bad armbar lol
bhalla8985 5 months ago
LOL. Well it worked out for him. He was a StreetFighter.
zioniory 5 months ago
lol at all the comments criticizing the dudes armbar technique, i bet your the same type of people who watch a movie and say "those special effects looks so fake" , enjoy it for what it is an old school cheesy bruce lee movie
ninjadeathcult 6 months ago
All I'll say is that was a really bad armbar.
thetenthfetter 6 months ago
id say that if he did that against a bjj guy there would be a broken elbow.
dalhousie44 6 months ago
@dalhousie44 I think your right but the overall point that he is making here is that in a real fight being on the ground is not a good place to be. The bite changes things very quickly.
dutch04 5 months ago
This move is called Gyaku Juji Gatame.
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
Tha is not an armbar, go and practice jiujitsu before posting something like this.
780460020014 6 months ago
@780460020014
u serious? This is an unorthodox form. A couple of MMA fighters done this already. They're on youtube.
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE that is a movie armbar.
780460020014 6 months ago
@780460020014 "that is a movie armbar." so you are saying its an armbar.
Anyways, i saw an armbar like this expect the attacker arch his back upwards and the stomach is facing down. So an upside down armbar? lol
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@780460020014
Why did you even comment back if your not gonna talk about the armbar?
I never said anything bout biting legs.
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
@OVERCAPITALIZE it is imposible to make an armbr if yor stomach is facing upward, and the stomach of your opponent is facing down, to make an armbaryou have to place your legs across the opponent’s chest, with one of his arms between your thighs and with the elbow joint against your hips. then you have to grabb the oponnent´s arm and arch your hips. if you do everything right, you can easily break an arm.
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OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
@780460020014
/watch?v=bgGwPWAltiw - Even though he turn his body but it didnt change from the guy pulling it back.
Closes you get with a "movie armbar"
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
@780460020014 - Not impossible. As the guy in the video was doing, he brought his left knee to Bruce's elbow in order to apply downward pressure on the elbow. It would just be difficult to do, because that would't be too hard to slip out of. So not impossible, just probably very hard to do. In my opinion.
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780460020014 6 months ago
LMFAO THATS NOT A REAL ARM BAR FOLKS<<<<<SORRY<<if you think it is you better get back to the dojo!
punishr36 6 months ago
For all of you trolls who are bitching about BJJ and MMA... if I put you in an armbar outside of training the last thing on your mind is to bite me. Obviously you've never been put in an armbar - an armbar isn't something you slowly apply, you snap it on and hyper extend at the elbow. You can bite me all you want after that, because you'll only have one arm left to fight with.
uckushtar 6 months ago
@uckushtar All I hear is the clicking of your keys typing up shit all. I've never seen a real streel fight, bar brawl, school yard fight and someone pulls of an armbar. You can get all technical and armbar me, last thing you might remember seeing before going in a coma is my boys kicking your head in while we're on the ground. See, that's a real life fight, life's never fair.
tom8me 4 weeks ago
"WHAAAAA OOOOWWWW om NOM!!!" *bite*
berner 6 months ago
...Does anyone here honestly believe that biting someone hurts more than having your elbow hyperextended?
LucidFaia 6 months ago
@LucidFaia Doesnt matter if it hurts more, only that it hurts enough to make the guy let go.
deek77 6 months ago
@LucidFaia
If your double jointed, biting could save your life haha jk. I forgot the guy's name but in UFC Versus i think? He escaped so alot of armbars during this one match cause he was very flexible, it looked grossed. lol
OVERCAPITALIZE 6 months ago
that work in real life fighting to the death, you can bite, poke, kick in the nuts, etc.
in MMA, there's rules to follow so Bruce Lee can only beat fighters that stand up against him.
Bruce might loose to a few fighter that love take-down and also submission.
AsurasWrath 6 months ago
Some of you commenting are stupid shit cause you watch too much MMA ... In a real life streat fight, and the other guys got you in an arm bar like Bruce is in now... Do you honestly think if you tapped he'll let go of the hold? FUCK NO! so based on Bruce's current position, it only makes sense to try and bite off a piece of that guys leg. Don't think getting bit hurts? bite your arm as hard as you can... reply back with how many seconds before you screamed.
tom8me 6 months ago 22
@tom8me do you think this clip is a real fight?
DunxMeister 3 months ago
@tom8me i couldn't bite and scream at the same time so i never screamed
zakquack 3 months ago
@tom8me
In a real life fight I'd probably end up ripping out the other guys throat, eyes and balls- in no particular order.
4795623 2 months ago
@4795623 Hahaha... that's why guys shouldn't be applying technical details of how bad ass an arm bar is in a real street fight...
tom8me 4 weeks ago
@tom8me realfight i armbar u im taking ur arm home with me
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tom8me 4 weeks ago
@tom8me if someone i was fighting tapped i would let go! Its just dog to break someones arm.
MIKEISCOOL410 2 months ago
@tom8me An arm bar is once locked as in this video is faster than bruce's bite.
IamVeryFrozen 2 months ago 2
@tom8me it takes seconds to snap an arm. if you started biting, you would be 100% sure to get a broken bone before long. then the submission guy would let go and stop the bite, but you now lie on the ground with a broken arm
sure biting can be useful but dont make it sound like a superweapon
MuayThaiViking 1 month ago
@MuayThaiViking Why do you think real mma fighters don't fight outside the ring? cause anything goes fool... try a headlock on me and feel how hard I'll kick you in the balls. Don't assume I'm all for biting but a broken arm can heal, a bitten off finger or other body part doesn't grow back, think about it...
tom8me 4 weeks ago
@tom8me watch?v=q9JpeKKBScA
say what? here we got a lightweight beating up a huge black guy who suckerpunched a woman. according to witnesses, roger beat him up brutally, but he wasnt charged of assault by the black guy. cause obviously that would mean the black guy would get charged of assault as well
anyway its nice to shut stupid up with a single link. im glad i teached you something new
MuayThaiViking 4 weeks ago
@MuayThaiViking You are in the true sense of the word, an idiot. Roger Huerta must be your brother from another mother. In return I'll let GSP teach you the meaning of what being a TRUE mma fighter is about when it goes to street fights.
watch?v=wbWKG26ebMw
tom8me 4 weeks ago
@tom8me i really cant see your point. i like GSP a lot, he is one of my favorite martial artists in general. that guy could easily defend himself as well, even better than Roger
i simply proved you wrong after you said that MMA fighters cant/dont fight outside the cage. then you called me an idiot. dont worry its a natural reaction. people nowadays have forgotten the point in arguing. if they end up ''losing'', they get mad, instead of being thankful for learning something new. oh well..
MuayThaiViking 4 weeks ago
@tom8me if you knew GSP you would know he is the nicest guy around. why would he dishonor himself into fighting some random drunks on the street friday night. no doubt he would tear them apart, but its not what he believes in
i think violence and people trying to pick a fight is pathetic as well, but if you have trained basic boxing and wrestling you are a long way ahead, compared to someone who has never trained anything
how the hell can we even disagree on this
MuayThaiViking 4 weeks ago
@MuayThaiViking You should keep replies short and sweet, I'm not getting mad, I just treat you the way I treat my ex girlfriends... shut up, don't waste my time, now go fuck yourself.
tom8me 4 weeks ago
@tom8me and this will be my last message, short and sweet:
watch?v=wbWKG26ebMw
you were wrong :)
MuayThaiViking 4 weeks ago
@MuayThaiViking wasn't he using Huerta defending someone? That seems pretty just and like the kind of thing a martial artist should do, to me. Protecting the weak and such.
TheTerrorUforgot 3 weeks ago
@TheTerrorUforgot yes but now when i read my comment, i can see i expressed myself in a bad way. didnt refer to Roger when i wrote ''fighting some random drunks on the street friday night''
i 100% support what roger did :)
MuayThaiViking 3 weeks ago
@tom8me On streetfights, GSP just said "I've probably been in more streetfights than he has in his entire life. He has no idea the demon I have inside of me. People don't know how dark my mind can get sometimes." - about Nick Diaz. A few words might get mixed up but meh
TheTerrorUforgot 3 weeks ago
@tom8me yep...plus it looks like Lee bit the Achilles heel...extra painful!
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tom8me 6 months ago
The Gracies always say respect the punch, or in this case the bite. You never know what someone will do in a street fight so best be prepared for anything. There are ways to pull off an armbar without leaving yourself open to the bite attack.
Also, Bruce Lee understood the effectiveness of grapplinng and even trained with Judo Gene Lebel. Bruce thought grappling techniques were not exciting enough for the movies so he used them sparingly. Watch the armbar Bruce uses in the begining of E.T.D.
BandakaKush 6 months ago
rotfl dirty fighter!!
jond69kr 6 months ago
THis worked beleive me I tryed it! I got locked once in a fight if It wern't for the bite and followed by a right cross to the guys jaw I wouln've been choked out! cause i ain't no fool!
ujayet 6 months ago
if I were pulling off the armbar and had it lock in postion than got bitten, I would just crank the arm even more till it breaks because I would be pissed off as hell
2jzgteSupraJZA80 6 months ago
the potential of damage from a bite is they take a chunk out of you, the potential damage of a armbar is they break your arm then twist till they get bored and you wont be using that arm ever again. Unless they have rabies (lol!) or bite somewhere fatal or bite your jibblets off the armbar is going to cause more damage and pain (FYI rabies shots hurt like a porcupine crawling up ur ass, BACKWARDS!)
gyr0drag0n7 6 months ago
trust me, the armbar hurts a lot more than the biting.
kevluv93 6 months ago
Keep in mind folks....martial arts has evolved and improved since Bruce was alive. And when folks like Shamrock, Rutten, Silva die we'll look back and laugh at them too. When their successors improve current day techniques.
cabrame 7 months ago
listen people, its a movie, so dont take it as truth haters and fanboys alike, plus, who the hell would try a armbar on the street? seriously that would be stupid, to me bjj is pure sport, pure, try a flying armbar on the pavement lol or try it with out a wieght class, to me bjj is useless with out an other art to make up what bjj lacks in. P.S try jeet kune do now thats fun stuff.
ZxMeGaxTrOnNxZ 7 months ago
You bitches saying the biting won't work, your dumbasses or S and M lovers. That shit works everytime, like pulling hair or kicking the nuts. That's why they took that shit out of UFC, PXC, etc. You guys are fucking dumb, if you broke my arm, my teeth would fuck your leg up. Its human nature to let go of a hold, when someone bites you. So shut your dumbasses up!!!
calinaganking 7 months ago
@calinaganking So if you were in a position to break somebody's arm, and they bit you, instead of really doing damage to them you would let them go?
cheshirepat30 7 months ago
@cheshirepat30 Yup, I'm human not a terminating robot. Besides I like my skin. I don't need plastic surgery or rabies...lol
calinaganking 7 months ago
@calinaganking If they bit you, the damage would already be done. You would take damage and let them go instead of getting hurt and really f*#cking them up? It just takes pushing your hips out slightly.
cheshirepat30 7 months ago
@cheshirepat30 I see what your saying, but as a human I wouldn't wanna get bitten and I've been bitten before and broke my arm. Bites were worse. If I was in a real fight, not sanctioned, I would never consider using an armbar. If i did get bitten, I would probably bite him back. Naturally, I would let go, but then ground and pound his face. Breaking his arm, doesn't seem to be "getting even". You can always heal an arm, but you might need surgery for a bite and a possible rabies shot.
calinaganking 7 months ago
@calinaganking An arm bar breaks the arm backward at the elbow. That is a nasty break. Also, there is no way to know if the opponent will let you go just because you let them go. I recommend getting somebody with training put you in an arm bar so you can see what I mean.
cheshirepat30 7 months ago
@cheshirepat30 An arm bar breaks the arm backward at the elbow. That is a nasty break. Also, there is no way to know if the opponent will let you go just because you let them go.
cheshirepat30 7 months ago
what bruce does to break armbar?
rhinekhan 7 months ago
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@rhinekhan "what bruce does to break armbar?"
You can't see it very clear in this clip, but he bites his leg.. HARD.
dalehcw 7 months ago
I read that Lee almost lost his teeth cause baker pulled his leg out his mouth too hard
iceblue4u 8 months ago
its a street fight bite him poke his eyes out. fuck this pussy mma shit. kill each other or dont fight..we are fucking animals. just like a dog. you dont tell a dog not to bite. everything on our body is a weapon that should be used to protect us you dont want to get bit dont fight. that was a pro arm bar escape.
Algorhythmmm 8 months ago
@Algorhythmmm hell yea in a street fight bite him etc and people who watch mma etc get caught up in the technique etc but i think people are talking about the technique because that arm bar wasnt a real armbar it was like something from wrestling, buces arm is the wrong way round, he couldnt break it if he tried
Dizzylittlelord 7 months ago
@Algorhythmmm - if I have the arm bar locked in and you try to bite me, punch me in the balls, or gauge my eyes then I will definitely break your arm. No grappler/mma guy worth his salt would let go if the lock was that secure because the arm break would be so easy at that point.
amenra13 7 months ago
@amenra13 It's sad people actually don't realize this. If anyone puts a shred of thought into the matter, they'd know how stupid it would be to bite someone when he's got you in an armbar. The time it takes the BJJ practicioner to extend his hips is worlds shorter compared to the time it would take someone to bite you into releasing your grip. Really, biting only antagonizes your opponent further so he'll break your arm even quicker then he normally would.
OcelotTheGunslinger 7 months ago
Some people would let go some wouldn't it's a toss of the coin like when U R trying 2 slam your way out of a triangle or guilitine.
LegendoftheAce 8 months ago
everyone is a bitch
biohybridsvt 8 months ago
Whimp let go. I'm sure a broken arm hurts 100x more than a stupid bite. Soooo, breaking his arm and ignoring the bite would suffice.
ts808heaven 8 months ago
@ts808heaven
your thick and obviously know shit about fighting,, if i bit you would would let go regardless... cause a bite hurts alot and in your mind you think if i dont let go,, he is going to bite a chunk out of me.. your just a stupid bruce lee hater get the fuck of the video fool
quickmantan 8 months ago
@quickmantan cmon man dont believe every shit Brucee do in his films :P
SSchreno 8 months ago
Bruce Lee is not in ring as far as I can see in this scene also he never trained sports, JKD is not a sport nor wingchun. Also in real situation without rules this would be the most effective way, coz there is no time to react in real situation, in the other hand in ring where you go only for that intention but anyone who has something against this cant never be a good martial artist or a figher. Your Body is a weapon if you dont use it all and wisely your weapon can crash.
Wolver1nEmkd 8 months ago
@Wolver1nEmkd or, more realistically, he could have rolled out of it. if someone bit me while I was armbaring them I would just break their arm lmao.
BootyBot 8 months ago
@BootyBot I agree.. when being arm barred don't bite the opponent.. for they will break it!
buddyorville 8 months ago
you guys don't understand that this is bruce lee who's biting
that is, his bite could probably chop a sperm whale in half
so, no. it most definitely should be Mr. Sambo over there screaming unless he wants his innards to explode
IlovelouisDTV 9 months ago
That's not martial arts.And this is not an armbar.And if the guy holding his arm break his fingers,i bet he wont be able to bite while he is screaming.
You don't have to be bruce lee to use dirty moves.
For street fights,krav maga is the most effective.
And even using bjj,if the guy really get an armbar,breaking Lee's arm will be easier than bruce make him give up just because of the biting pain.
kinaxzz 9 months ago
and that boys and girls it's how you escape and arm bar .. just biten
juanwaffle1 9 months ago
idc who u r, bruce lee would beat you in a fight considering there were no rules limiting what you were allowed to do.
TheHogger129 9 months ago
Bruce' Message was simple:
Real Life has nothing to do with competition rules and there is no ring or referee. So if you do some fancy stuff - thats the answere.
I saw a video about BJJ some hours ago if it is an effective self defence. Bruce gave us the answere.
qubiq3 9 months ago
if you'r fast enough to break that arm, you would't have to worry about that bite. The guy will be to worried about his arm and panic.
modmaster 9 months ago
well in real street fights. arm bars and triangles wouldnt work. because either a chunk of meat from your leg comes off or your nuts.
MyRahhrahh 9 months ago
he squeezed his nuts! Ha ha
robbierocket22 9 months ago
what did he even do...
Liver13Pool 9 months ago
@Liver13Pool He bit him.
BKKaye 9 months ago
meu ovo esquerdo!!! perdi 0:30 seg da minha vida vendo essa merda...
tiagomflu 9 months ago
Oh the old "Mc Gruff The Crime Dog Move" Yeah thats how u "Take a bite out of crime"! lol
Nitepup 10 months ago
0:06 - 0:08 did he say wazaaaaaaaaap!!?
nevonja 10 months ago
...that's not how it works...
Bonertronica 10 months ago 25
@Bonertronica Yeah and you're one of those guys that stay under a table during a 9.0 earthquake!
ujayet 6 months ago
To Anybody Talking/Arguing About Anything Other Than How Awesome Bruce Lee Is/Was/Forever Will Be... You're Probably Right, But Still.. C'mon, You Have To Respect How Awesome Bruce Lee Is/Was/Forever Will Be. I Love Bruce Lee As A Martial Artist & An Entertainer, Let's Not Bring Up Any Hate, Trolls Win When We Reply. Love & Peace, Hahahahaha.
wK1R8 10 months ago 27
@wK1R8 reference to trigun by any chance, just curious
stonedwheatthins 6 months ago
any real jiu jitsu practitioner would have snapped that shit right off.
graveyard090 10 months ago
@graveyard090 thats what a brazilian fighter thought he would do to me... BOY HE WAS WRONG!
JKD & BRUCE LEE RULES!
joesatva 10 months ago
@joesatva lol you lie, you never fought a brazilian mma fighter
newerest1 10 months ago
@newerest1 OMG!!!! HOW DID U KNOW THAT???!! ur good!!!
joesatva 10 months ago
@graveyard090 of course they would, actually they would go belly down to actually finish it. there's nothing at that angle
newerest1 10 months ago
first of all that is a very bad arm bar technique that is not the way you should do it !! second this video looks like i just took some acid and watched it , it's all blurry and fucked up
kalimanfeoli 10 months ago
Tastes like chicken
saiguy1986 10 months ago
If I have you in an armbar, and you can't escape, and start biting my leg, I'm going to straight up give your arm a new way to bend. I'd rather be missing a bigmouth's size chunk of leg than have my elbow move like a noodle, just sayin'. I feel I could probably still roll with a bite out of my leg, but not with an elbow out of my arm. Love Bruce Lee though... he'd probably roll most of us out.
oaktubs 10 months ago
alright enough all of u fighting most of the moves in Bjj come from Kung fu dont beilve me check out shaolin wrestling and chin na and Tiger style grappling and even dog fighting all these are forms ground fighting and top of this do u really think grapling and ground fighting was left out of the picture for that many years man has been fighting since the dawn of time problem is we dont train those martial arts as we use
SteelClaw 10 months ago
Lee trained with Wally jay and gene Lebell. Trust me, he knew how to do arm bars. His point was that sometimes, you must do whatever to survive.
tonyvalente 10 months ago
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@tonyvalente "Lee trained with Wally jay and gene Lebell. Trust me, he knew how to do arm bars. His point was that sometimes, you must do whatever to survive."
There are many different ways to get out of an arm bar without having to sacrifice your arm. Arm bar escapes are BJJ 101. If you are actually considering biting to get out of an arm bar (which will not work), then you are not a very skilled grappler.
Ljenkins9000 10 months ago
@Ljenkins9000
Wait wait wait hang on. You're ACTUALLY saying that ALL traditional martial arts are shit and the only good grappling art is BJJ? I'm going to respond to this, but please please correct me if I'm wrong. First of all, Jiu Jitsu is what BJJ is based on. It worked pretty fucking well for centuries, and it's not a problem inherent with the system if it gets watered down. Second - Judo, and Sambo are both great when it comes to groundwork, and Judo is more applicable in a real scenario.
119Elias119 10 months ago
@119Elias119 "Wait wait wait hang on. You're ACTUALLY saying that ALL traditional martial arts are shit and the only good grappling art is BJJ?"
No you fucking moron. Please quote exactly which of my words made you think this.
"First of all, Jiu Jitsu is what BJJ is based on."
No it is not. It is based on Judo. JJJ is Judo's roots but JJJ has been proven to be crappy since Kano's time. There's a reason the most popular Jiu-jitsu in Japan is BJJ.
Ljenkins9000 10 months ago
@Ljenkins9000 Wow you really are a fucking idiot, considering that Judo is also based on Jiu Jitsu.
Kano? I don't know who the fuck that is. I've only dabbled with grappling, I'm a striker.
You seem to agree with my second point.
You ought to turn down the nastiness you rude fuck. I didn't insult you even though you've been absolutely cunty to everyone in all your replies. Go get yourself a blowjob man, it seems like you need it.
119Elias119 10 months ago
@119Elias119 "Wow you really are a fucking idiot, considering that Judo is also based on Jiu Jitsu"
Oh gawd. The never-ending "Judo comes from Jujutsu, therefore JJJ isn't completely worthless crap". Sorry, but yes it is. JJJ guys generally have no clue what they're doing on the ground due to no sparring experience. This is pretty common in JJJ everywhere.
Kano took from hundreds of competely different JJJ styles and invented Judo.
Even before him sparring was rare in Jujutsu.
Ljenkins9000 10 months ago
"You ought to turn down the nastiness you rude fuck. I didn't insult you"
No, but you did put words in my mouth which I never said and could not possibly be inferred by someone with half a brain from what I did say:
"You're ACTUALLY saying that ALL traditional martial arts are shit and the only good grappling art is BJJ?"
I would never say that. Sambo, Judo and Wrestling are other good grappling arts, and along with those, Sanda, Kyokushin, Boxing and Muay Thai are good TMAs.
Ljenkins9000 10 months ago
@119Elias119 Oh and yes I do disagree with your "if it ain't broke don't fix it" argument about JJJ being used well for centuries. You assume that just because it existed it must have actually been used properly in war. The truth is the whole thing about samurai using JJJ is a myth.
"Go get yourself a blowjob man, it seems like you need it."
Done. Hey you're right, I do feel better.
Ljenkins9000 10 months ago
@Ljenkins9000 - I can't seem to find it right now (it might have been flagged as spam or deleted, surprise surprise) but you said something along the lines of 'TMA fighters just don't get grappling.' You still maintain that JJJ is useless. Prove it. I'm not asking for links to peer reviewed articles or anything, but prove it.
PS. Props for toning down the bitchiness.
119Elias119 10 months ago
"You still maintain that JJJ is useless. Prove it. I'm not asking for links to peer reviewed articles or anything, but prove it."
So you want me to prove it but you will not allow me to use the only evidence we have of proving this stuff? JJJ is a relic of the past. Kano proved his Judo would beat any JJJ practitioner about 120 years ago when he had those dojo wars between the JJJ guys who rarely sparred and his Judo guys who sparred all the time. Since then JJJ mostly died off in Japan.
Ljenkins9000 10 months ago
@Ljenkins9000 - Hmmmm you sound like someone trying to prove evolution is false, except you're more convincing.
Link me to an article that says 'JJJ mostly dead in Japan' or something, or a couple of videos of different fights between judo practitioners and jiu jitsu practitioners. Otherwise we'll just have to agree to disagree. Shit I'll even accept statistics that say that BJJ is more popular than JJJ in Japan. I've googled it, but can't find it, I'm assuming you know where to look...
119Elias119 10 months ago
@119Elias119 "Hmmmm you sound like someone trying to prove evolution is false, except you're more convincing."
Wow. Don't know how I missed this, but, the problem with your analogy is that evolution is the side supported by mountains of scientific evidence. Same with my argument (which is supported by mountains of empirical evidence from all style vs style, no-rules fights over the last 120 years). In both cases the other side completely lacks any scientific evidence (yours and creationism).
Ljenkins9000 9 months ago
@Ljenkins9000 - Oh, man, you've totally misinterpreted what I said!! What I'm saying is "You sound like a creationist trying to prove evolution wrong, except you're clearly not full of shit." Anyway, you seem to be a smart bloke who knows his fight science and regular science decently, so mad respect from me, even though we disagree on the Jiu Jitsu thing. Catchya.
119Elias119 9 months ago
@119Elias119 Oh ok. Well I don't want to come off sounding like a creationist. Could you explain how I did?
Ljenkins9000 9 months ago
@Ljenkins9000 - Oh nah that was a joke. I asked you for a video or an article or something to prove what you said (cause your argument seems solid) and you said that all you had were you've already shown (some statistics) and if I was gonna ignore that then I was ignoring all your evidence.
Sort of how everyone says to creationists "prove creationism, without citing the bible" and they go "can't do it."
The difference being they're full of shit and you don't appear to be.
Peace.
119Elias119 9 months ago
@119Elias119 There's a reason the most popular Jiu-Jitsu in Japan right now is Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu.
Ljenkins9000 10 months ago
@Ljenkins9000 I did a google search, a google, map search, and a dojo search, and found more jujutsu dojo's than BJJ schools in Japan. Tokugawa Jujutsu Dojo, KEISATSU JUJUTSU DOJO, TRI-FORCE AOYAMA JIU-JITSU STUDIO (which also teaches BJJ) Jujutsu has been important in Japan, since the samurai. If it saved lives then, do you really think thugs have changed how they punch today?
KurtCobain198666 9 months ago
@Ljenkins9000 By the way, timeline wise it goes Jujutsu>Judo>Aikido>BJJ. Judo isn't a form of jujustu because it goes out of it's way to be non lethal, where as Jujutsu was devised purely to kill and cripple. If judo isn't jujutsu, how can you say that an art derived from judo is a form of jujutsu? Helio and Carlos never studied Jujutsu in their lives, only Judo. So technqiue wise, lineage wise, and parentage wise, BJJ has nothing to do with jujutsu, only judo.
KurtCobain198666 9 months ago
@KurtCobain198666 "timeline wise it goes Jujutsu>Judo>Aikido>BJJ."
Lol, no. Aikido did not come from Judo. It came from Jujutsu, except with all of the realism (sparring, etc.) removed.
Ljenkins9000 9 months ago
@Ljenkins9000 TIMELINE wise aikido came after judo, i didn't say it came from judo, learn to read.
KurtCobain198666 9 months ago
@KurtCobain198666 That may be but TKD also came after Judo. Doesn't mean it has anything to do with it or that it is better or worse. I don't understand why you brought it up I guess.
Ljenkins9000 9 months ago
@Ljenkins9000 Because aikido and judo are closely related. Cousins you could say. Judo came from jujutsu, and aikido came from aikijujutsu which came from jujutsu. I brought it up because BJJ has a misleading name, it has nothing to do with jujutsu. You can't get an effective fighting method is all you've learnt is useless. Gracie learnt Judo then developed BJJ. It's not Jujutsu because jujutsu has never been a combat sport like BJJ.
KurtCobain198666 9 months ago
@KurtCobain198666 "I brought it up because BJJ has a misleading name, it has nothing to do with jujutsu."
The reason it's called Jiu-Jitsu (instead of Brazilian Judo, which would make more sense) is because when Maeda was teaching Judo to the Gracies, the name "Judo" had not caught on. Judo had just distinguished itself from Jujutsu shortly before that. Yes, I agree that they are so different they should have different names, but I don't know why people get so stuck on it.
Ljenkins9000 8 months ago
@Ljenkins9000 And by the way, comparing judo and aikido is like comparing fire and water. They're taught in totally different mind frames, for different reasons. But Jigoro Kano greatly admired Ueshiba, the founder of Aikido, and said of Aikido: Now this is Budo. He wouldn't study Aikido himself because of the age gap between Ueshiba and himself, but he was so greatly taken by it that he sent students to train with Ueshiba. Students like Kenji Tomiki, 8th dan in judo and aikido
KurtCobain198666 9 months ago