Was anyone else uncomfortable with that scene towards the end..? I don't want to spoil it for anyone that hasn't seen it but man that seemed inappropriate.
Prece buena, pero, con riesgo de parecer racista, Heathcliff no es negro, era trigueno, con apariencia de gitano; sino no hubiera sido recibido por los Linton cuando regresa, ni sería adoptado por los Earnshaw ni Cathy se hubiera enamorado de él, los negros eran recontra despeciados por esa época, y en Inglaterra no había muchos que yo sepa, ellos eran vendidos en América más que todo.
I'm a big fan of the classics but Wuthering Heights was never one of my favorites. Heathcliffe and all of the hurt he caused was just wrong despite being for the love of Cathy, if you could call it that... still, this movie looks pretty good
wow, WHAT A WONDERFUL TRAILER. IT GAVE ME SO MUCH DETAIL. IT ALMOST SPOILED THE MOVIE!! ^.^ i JUST HATE WHEN MOVIE TRAILERS GIVE SO MUCH DETAIL TO THE POINT WHERE YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN WATCH THE MOVIE. xD-sarcasm
I see that it's not just Hollywood that's running out of ideas. How many times is this damn story going to be recycled! I didn't even think the book was such a riot -_-
Eh, it doesn't look or feel like the Wuthering Heights I read. I agree with the poster down below; WH has been done too much, as has Jane Eyre. Let them rest. None of the movies have even come close to the novel.
Its been done to death this story, time to move on folks make way for a new genaration of story writers, mabe they were great writers in their day but its all covered in't mud as far as I'm concerned !!
We need some refreshing stories with a bit more shabang ...
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@Veeham1 I don't mean to be disrespectful but that won't be difficult to do. The version you're referring to is one of the worse version of "wuthering heights" ever made. At all levels. Even the best actor in the world could not have saved this production and he didn't
I imagined heathcliff more muscular and taller but ill give it a shot and heathcliff was supposed to black not white so they did picked the right actor but i thought cathy was blond :s
@omni1115 supposed to look like that!" I was just saying that heathcliff in this version did not match the heathcliff i had imagined in mind. (who looked more middle eastern in my mind)
@omni1115 I understand that gypsies can be described as anyone, but I am not saying just skin color, I am saying that 1) it's not politically correct to place a black person as a gypsy, when gypsies are typically middle eastern. just like when people were complaining how the older versions were whitewashed and that was racist and 2) this guy playing heathcliff did not match how I saw him in my mind. just like when I read a boom, and then they make a movie about it, you think "oh that girl's not
@SocialAndPolitical that's true, but as I said before, it really depends on the screenwriter/director. there ARE people out there who don't mind interracial couples, and there are many people who would make a small budget movie with interracial couples. it might not make the big screen, but it's still a movie.
Jesus!!!!All you talk about is the color of H. skin!!!And to hear this from poeple who actually read Wuthering Heights! Where were you when H. was done by white actor? Hey, morons, Jesus was black for your information. Idiots.
This seems aweful! I read the book, I saw the movie with Ralph Fiennes and I liked it. But this looks poor and why is Heathcliff black? He's supposed to be a gypsy! I'm not racist or anything, but I hate when directors take too much liberties in a book adaptation! This is not the Wuthering Heights for me.
While I don't believe Heathcliff as conceived and written by Brontë was a black man, I get the strong feeling the fan-girls with Doctor Who Tumblrs and every Biffy Clyro song on their iPod wouldn't be upset at all if an actor just as "wrong" for the part in the opposite direction (say, Jamie Campbell Bower) was playing the role. Know what I mean? The way no one much cares when incredibly handsome movie stars are cast as Rochester, who wasn't written as being incredibly handsome...
People can make as many adaptations of Wuthering Heights as they want but the 1998 TV movie starring Robert Cavanah is irreplaceable. The movie was 90% true to the novel and the dialogues were retained of the book.
Why are people so fussy over Heathcliff being portrayed by a black man? The point is that he is different, an outsider. All it does is give the story a more contemporary edge. I think it's interesting. And furthermore, I don't think that Andrea Arnold was trying to tell the tale as much as make this an artistic film, with a message. The story is only a premise.
O, my God!!! Heathcliff - the Black! Poor Emili Bronte! She, probably, turns over in a coffin! To what we have come with fucking political correctness!
Бог мой!!! Хитклифф - негр!!! Такой кошмар не приснится и во сне! До чего мы докатились с этой долбаной политкорректностью! Бедная Эмили Бронте, вероятно, переворачивается в гробу! (((((
@rambosolocmucho yo lo lei en ingles y dice claramente que heatcliff tiene "dark skin" piel oscura y el cabello largo era comun en esa epoca pero tmabien lo usaban corto. No creas que todo es como en las peliculas
If people dislike that Andrea Arnold cast a black actor as Heathcliff then maybe they should finance, produce and direct their own film version - or easier yet - watch one of the other dozen or so adaptations that have a white Heathcliff.
I saw this film last week, and it was good. It was very dark, there was a lot of animals killed which made the film raw, and the characters, animalistic. You hated all the characters, Catherine and Heathcliff were both horrible. I agree with @heyitsmethatkid though, Heathcliff should not have been black. Also, the actor playing him was only 13 or 14, which made me feel horrendously odd, because he is a good looking boy, and looks older. Also, Nelly wasn't featured hardly at all, which was sad!
@shahoney I didn't actually! but middle eastern people are more commonly described as gypsies, if Emily Brontë had wanted to say someone black, the word "moor" had been more appropriate. (she might have used this word, but gypsy stood out more to me.)
@heyitsmethatkid but Mr earnshaw was being very criptic about the "gypsy" I don't think it would have been impossible that a very dark skinned boy had been traveling along with the gypsies of that Mr. Earnshaw didn't want to give to many specifics. I found a black heathcliff as believable and real as a caucasian one.
not to offend but i think as well that heathcliff should have been darker, but not black. nothing against Africans but it just doesn't fit. and for the people going crazy here about the US confusion here, i didn't think the person implied that the movies should have been produced in America, but really just that its not airing there. i live right now in Germany and when i say, sadly its not in Germany i don't mean it being made here.
Heathcliff was white... The whole gypsie-like reference was to give him a harsher and spiritually darker tone that didn't abide to the whole English high class society... His charachter debth and his complicated mindset make it impossible for him to be non-white
Perhaps you spell English words correctly to demonstrate that you have the capability to assert a point. Nonetheless, you're viewpoint is questionable and racist.
@rangels001 maybe cause I am racist (at least that's the term brainwashed racial marxists like you would use)... and I apologize for spelling words correctly I will try to avoid doing so in the future
@TheJugernaut94 I wasn't saying that the movie should have been MADE in the US, I was just saying that it's a shame that the movie isn't IN US THEATERS. And even if the movie HAD been made in the US, the quality of the movie really depends on the director and screenwriter. If a great director was directing, they would know better than to choose a complete American to portray the part of heathcliff and Catherine. the place of origin of the movie would not have any or little effect on the movie i
looks cool but making him black on purpose was just stupid. UNLESS it wasnt on purpose, it was bc hes the best. like, make cathy mexican, so accurate. i love me some accuracy u know? IM HAPPY they are teens like theyre supposed to be. 13 when seperated my lintons
I never interpreted Heathcliff as black in the books, but I have no problem with him being black in a film adaption. Its just as valid as Ralph Fiennes playing him.
@saintjimmyandtity heathcliff was described as someone with dark skin Kaya is very pale and the cast looks young for a change since Catherine died being a teen, so for me this is the ONLY version in which the actors look close to the book descriptions.
@myraU2 do you even know what "dark" meant back then? i'd be dark, and im half arab. they were whiiiiiite. and the darkest was a gypsy, looked like modern gypsy. not a black or half black person. still most villages have like 100% whites.
but if they didnt pick him just bc hes black and they wanted to be different n fuck with accuracy im ok with it.
Why wasn't this movie out in america. I'm dying to see this movie. I read this book seven years ago and since then, I've been waiting for a movie. Well there was already a movie but I couldn't sit and watch it......It was too old. Anyways back to what i was saying. I didn't even know this was out until one of my friends told me and what's worse is that, it only came out in the UK. Not that there's anything wrong with uk but why not worldwide lol.........ugh never mind :(
@101paramoreluver they have already like 2 or three movies i think you can find them on net flix 2 are really old and one is only like 2 years old or something like that
I never imagined Heathcliff as being either white or really English when I read the book. A black Heathcliff is probably truer to the novel and its spirit than the vedy vedy English Olivier version
Ugh my favorite book of all time and every single movie is ruined by awkward casting. I guess it's just me because i was never a fan of the miss scodelario. I actually do like the casting of Heathcliffe as black though. Old wuthering heights movies with white heathcliffe is just simply absurd lol. Still, casting is a bit of a disappointment ...well..because heathcliffe looks too damn nice!!!
this movie seems awesome, but like a lot of people here, I don't think someone of african descent really "suits" heathcliff. he's described as a "gypsy" which would mean that he would look more Spanish or middle easten, rather than a black man. I am NOT being racist here, I also think the "white washed" versions are incorrect too; I just think that this guy doesn't describe the character well. of course, I haven't seen it, so I cannot judge his acting, but too bad it's not in the U.S.
@heyitsmethatkid if it was in us, the corelation betwen movie and book would be totaly destroyed,dont take me wrong, but if americans have money, that doesnt mean theyre good at movies, what you want? a wethering heights movie with Captain America as Heatcliff???Seriously, we need good actors for such a movie made upon a great book.Hope you understand, peace!And about heatchliff being black, yep its kinda weird, "gipsy mean more like a indian , or like you said , midle eastern kind.
@heyitsmethatkid i totally agree with you because i have read the book and heathcliff is described as you said..but maybe it's good even though i believe the one with ralph fiennes and juliette binoche is more representative of the characters and one of my favourite movies as well:)
@heyitsmethatkid I agree. I saw this film last week, and I think that by making him black in the film was a bit gimmicky. He was just a gypsy, it didn't say he was black. It seems offensive for the director to make the gypsy boy black in my opinion.
@heyitsmethatkid gypsies roam the world.... they can be anything.. its about the mind right? in turn body soul etc. never color ... i know you're not being racist but when should that ever even have to be an issue ..... more than skin deep no?
i agree i wish i was in england so i can watch the movie. Y don't they sent it to U.S. i mean is the director shy or what i mean from what i read from trailer she's a award winning director there nothing to be afraid plz sent it US we lov <3 KAYA SHE"S COOL BITCH, BITCH!
Is this film actually shot in a 4:3 ratio? No one does that anymore but Robbie Ryan is a cracking cinematographer so I'm sure he knows what he's doing. Brilliant book, looking forward to seeing what they've done with it.
@lucyinthesky165 Actually, as I said, they are called "gypsies" now, Trust me. And btw, I am Romanian, I know what all this stuff (the diff. between "Romani" and "Gypsies") is, awright? ;)
haha, oh no. i was trying to be sarcastic, in response to some other commenters who were talking about her "going too far". i completely agree with what you say, and i also know that heathcliff wasn't even supposed to be white in the book. i'm sorry it didn't come across too well in my comment , but i hope this clears up the misunderstanding :)
yes, andrea arnold has truly gone too far. how dare she cast a black actor to play the part of a character traditionally portrayed by a white actor (even though his ethnicity was really ambiguous in the book)? him being white was, like, the most important part of his character, and she just up and ruined it. THE AUDACITY.
Seriously, who cares about the skin colour? (Which btw doesn't seem to be disturbing at all to me...) I am just pleased to see, that a Keira Kneightly isn't ruining a wonderful piece of classic world literature again! I am so going to watch this when it is premiering in Germany!
I really don't understand the controversy. Heathcliffe was described as a dark skinned gypsy and of low birth. The character has to be someone who is stigmatised by society. Someone who everyone he meets is suspicious of and prejudiced against. Casting a black actor brings the Heathcliffe right up to date.
Such a shame everyone has to focus on the actor's colour, rather than the quite incredible mood of the film. Utter genius.
@lebroisky I completely agree with you. The basic concept is about a love that was not only "forbidden" but shunned by society at that time. In the BOOK he is described as you mentioned. The fact he is black is irrelevant to the basic principle of the story. Let's face it interracial let alone couples of opposite "classes" having relationships has been something of a taboo for a long time. I don't understand the uproar considering 95% of other adaptations are not true to the book.
i have other point of view about this "new" version , because Heathcliff was a ICON into this famous book , we all grow up (i`m not old) with a poor white boy , who after looks like a old English man knight (sorry but it is`nt racism) but all can imagine who was a real english knight (like a "lord") ok , ( like Laurence Olivier!!!!!) but this new heathcliff looks like a slave , i know the people can judge me , but is my opinion and this is for all movies who likes add "new" ideas , bpffff !
@MetallicCeltic He's (Heathcliff) described as having dark skin, his her is black and curly, and he is referred to as a gypsy. Nelly speculates he could have been of Spanish origin. He wouldn't have been white-white. In fact, Heathcliff is found in Liverpool, which, only a few decades earlier than the book is set, was a major port for slavery. So i don't think the film has stretched the "truth" that far by making Heathcliff black.
@massiveants look, we all KNOW gypsies arent black. and that heathcliff wasnt black. ok? ppl dont even realize that "dark" back then was just tan. im lebanese, im light light olive. when i went to denmark they said im "colored" bc they r so white. ppl in 1700s uk were white white white!! n some gypsies r tan. so that would be called dark/colored then. maybe they wanted to be different by having a black hc idk. maybe he was best actor. IDK. but we all know hc wasnt black, so stop that right there
@massiveants I agree with you there. Also it is possible that they, living far out on the countryside, didn't know how an african person looked like, and spanish was the closest they had seen before. I don't think Gypsy or african is the main point, the main point in that aspect was that he looked different from them... But the colour of the actors skin is not very important at all. What is important is how he acts the part and portrays Heatcliffs personality.
@MetallicCeltic Look up Olaudah Equiano. He lived before Emily Bronte who wrote the story, in Britain, was black, and was a functioning member of society who made his own living. He had been a slave in America, but purchased his freedom and set up his own life in England. It may not have been common but it did happen. Slavery had been abolished in England by the book's time so the actor doesn't "look like a slave" and he fits the physical description of Heathcliff in the book.
@789hjc This debate is just terrific – I'm learning so much Victorian history I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT KNOW! (And that's supposed to be one of my specialties), but as I commented to @redcorpse above (a little heatedly at first), Arnold has simply gone too far. Would prefer to see her take than the very staid, emotionless and banal Hardy/Riley/Lincoln version, though.
@Dodikind Thank you: that's an excellent point and further demonstrates that Andrea Arnold has gone too far with her cinema verite-meets-the classics approach. Please see my comments to redcorpse above. And as I read further I see this debate gets juicier still – teaching me lots of history I absolutely did not know!
@MegaZoeyBird Yeah, y'know, as multicultural a person as I am – how far do we have to push the classics these days, really? At a certain point directors go BEYOND what was intended by the authors at that point they've properly gone too far. Rereading the novel right now, and it's truly remarkable how like day and night Emily and Charlotte were. Personally I got hooked on Jane Eyre at 14 and never looked back. Found it sexy and prophetic beyond all redemption: a perfect personality fit.
@eglantinelass even if Bronte didn't intend for Heathcliff to be black, why does it matter so much that he is in this movie? Characters in movies are portrayed differently from how they are described in the books all the time so why is his skin color such a big deal? And this movie is just one interpretation. Isn't it good that there are a variety of adaptions that you can choose from?
@LucieSweet Yes :) And Heathcliff is described as a dark, gypsy boy in the book. So the actor is actually quite well-chosen :) Nowhere in the book does it say that he is caucasian, so.. :D
@LucieSweet Yeah that's right. Heathcliff was a very dark skinned person according to the book as well. Whether he is black or is of gipsy origin - as the book implies - is not very relevant.
@Rosalindxxxxxx Because he's described as being dark skinned gypsy in the book? Maybe also because Liverpool, where Mr Earnshaw found Heathcliff, was also known for being a slave trade port during the time the novel takes place making it not be a completely erroneous decision? Poor you. Must be hard having a non white washed version, more textually accurate version out there.
ROOTS (2012 film) - CAST= All white guys with black slave owners....OMG Instant masterpiece and very creative LOL
rampeal 3 days ago
Was anyone else uncomfortable with that scene towards the end..? I don't want to spoil it for anyone that hasn't seen it but man that seemed inappropriate.
intricate08 4 days ago
I don't feel anything.. the movie from 1992 has the best actors for the characters. No doubt about it.
HEJLIZZIEHEJ 1 week ago
Prece buena, pero, con riesgo de parecer racista, Heathcliff no es negro, era trigueno, con apariencia de gitano; sino no hubiera sido recibido por los Linton cuando regresa, ni sería adoptado por los Earnshaw ni Cathy se hubiera enamorado de él, los negros eran recontra despeciados por esa época, y en Inglaterra no había muchos que yo sepa, ellos eran vendidos en América más que todo.
kittyac47 1 week ago
I keep hearing Kate Bush singing in my head for some reason.
waynebrasler 1 week ago
I'm a big fan of the classics but Wuthering Heights was never one of my favorites. Heathcliffe and all of the hurt he caused was just wrong despite being for the love of Cathy, if you could call it that... still, this movie looks pretty good
Cynof08 1 week ago
SORRY GUYS BUT HEATH CLIFF WAS A GYPSY
annetekoul 1 week ago 2
@annetekoul Oh my god, there is not even a level of stupid to classify you!!!!
dozerification 4 days ago
desde cuando heathcliff es un negro?..............
cesar25944 1 week ago
wow, WHAT A WONDERFUL TRAILER. IT GAVE ME SO MUCH DETAIL. IT ALMOST SPOILED THE MOVIE!! ^.^ i JUST HATE WHEN MOVIE TRAILERS GIVE SO MUCH DETAIL TO THE POINT WHERE YOU SHOULDN'T EVEN WATCH THE MOVIE. xD-sarcasm
taytayswaggaify 2 weeks ago
are there this film in spanish or with subtitles?
Colichi25 2 weeks ago
I wished more people would know about the story of Wuthering Heighs. Just wachin it because of Kaya is ridiculous.
MrsCicatrix 2 weeks ago
nigga Heathcliff, omfg...
anuszkin 3 weeks ago
I see that it's not just Hollywood that's running out of ideas. How many times is this damn story going to be recycled! I didn't even think the book was such a riot -_-
HyperAmygdala 1 month ago
I think they should stop creating wuthering heights movies, it started being ridiculous.
marshmallowyeeah 1 month ago
Eh, it doesn't look or feel like the Wuthering Heights I read. I agree with the poster down below; WH has been done too much, as has Jane Eyre. Let them rest. None of the movies have even come close to the novel.
FaithIsAnnoyed 1 month ago
sh1t trailer passssssssssss
lslinger 1 month ago 2
Sorry, but I didn't like it at all, couldn't even continue watching it till the end.. Wuthering Heights (2009) is much much better to me ..
KhadidjaBT 1 month ago 3
This is one of those movies that make you want to commit suicide in Starbucks.
freebird4481 1 month ago 2
@freebird4481 LOOOOOOLLL
crtshpdtng 1 month ago
Artsy Fartsy Sundance Film Festival Starbuck sucking Trash.
freebird4481 1 month ago
i watched the trailer but i still have absolutely no idea what this film is about... mind enlightening me?
sjonak1 1 month ago 2
I've never even heard of this! Is it any good?
EyesofGeisha 1 month ago
Yawn... another shitty movie promoting miscegenation.
KiloSierraAlpha 1 month ago
Its been done to death this story, time to move on folks make way for a new genaration of story writers, mabe they were great writers in their day but its all covered in't mud as far as I'm concerned !!
We need some refreshing stories with a bit more shabang ...
kmostudios 1 month ago
Heathcliff looks to nice and meek. :( but it still looks good
babykittyfay 1 month ago
This looks gorgeous and i want to see it. But... another "Wuthering Heights" movie? Already? Again?
xnewtime 1 month ago
I love Adolf Hitler
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VermontConnection 1 month ago
Good Luck with surpassing Tom Hardy's Heathcliff......
Veeham1 1 month ago 26
@Veeham1 He might have been a good actor, but that is the worst portrayal of Wuthering Heights I've ever seen.
NessaFrank94 1 month ago 2
@Veeham1 I don't mean to be disrespectful but that won't be difficult to do. The version you're referring to is one of the worse version of "wuthering heights" ever made. At all levels. Even the best actor in the world could not have saved this production and he didn't
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DafniElissa 3 days ago
that's a really rubbish trailer.
MsJuules 1 month ago 2
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sofi3028 1 month ago
I went to film school with Andrea and am thrilled for her well-deserved success. She's so talented and an amazing person and mom! CONGRATS !!
wogese 1 month ago
where can I watch this movie? I really wanna see it
ohmistymanic 1 month ago
i prefer the 1939 Wuthering Heights
ladyyuna2000 1 month ago
Somehow this trailer does nothing for me.
ohsnapiam59 1 month ago 12
Awww an interracial relationship, how lovely. :)
VanillaTMFashion 1 month ago 2
0:48 i swear heathcliff bears no resemblance to harry potter... but i love kaya scodelario in this :)
thelittleewelamb 1 month ago
Is that EFFY?
xCarlinee 1 month ago
I imagined heathcliff more muscular and taller but ill give it a shot and heathcliff was supposed to black not white so they did picked the right actor but i thought cathy was blond :s
Lovely5646 1 month ago
@Lovely5646 he was a romany gypsy actually in the book
themadam298 1 month ago
@Lovely5646 Сathy wasn't blonde, her daughter was.
mephistolove 1 month ago
i am sorry, but this doesn't impress me at all.
rajatmugdha4eva001 1 month ago 5
KAYA SCODELARIO AS CATHY?! Okay, didn't see that one coming. Not that I'm complaining.
HaleyJarvis 2 months ago
the 2009 version still remains the best one, this looks like a piece of shit,
hehehaha502 2 months ago 2
@omni1115 supposed to look like that!" I was just saying that heathcliff in this version did not match the heathcliff i had imagined in mind. (who looked more middle eastern in my mind)
heyitsmethatkid 2 months ago
@omni1115 I understand that gypsies can be described as anyone, but I am not saying just skin color, I am saying that 1) it's not politically correct to place a black person as a gypsy, when gypsies are typically middle eastern. just like when people were complaining how the older versions were whitewashed and that was racist and 2) this guy playing heathcliff did not match how I saw him in my mind. just like when I read a boom, and then they make a movie about it, you think "oh that girl's not
heyitsmethatkid 2 months ago 2
@SocialAndPolitical that's true, but as I said before, it really depends on the screenwriter/director. there ARE people out there who don't mind interracial couples, and there are many people who would make a small budget movie with interracial couples. it might not make the big screen, but it's still a movie.
heyitsmethatkid 2 months ago
Good looking shots, I'll take a punt on this. I love her 'Red Road'. Good director.
DrThorpeLee 2 months ago
Wuthering Wuthering Wuthering HEIGHTS
HEATHCLIFF!
IT'S ME
CATHY
SocialAndPolitical 2 months ago
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tokyonobara 2 months ago
@SocialAndPolitical got to love Kate Bush <3
MsJuules 1 month ago
Wher can I watch this online?
Vlatka211 2 months ago
@Vlatka211 Download it using uTorrent and find the torrent link on Pirate Bay
DrThorpeLee 2 months ago
@DrThorpeLee thnx
Vlatka211 2 months ago
Jesus!!!!All you talk about is the color of H. skin!!!And to hear this from poeple who actually read Wuthering Heights! Where were you when H. was done by white actor? Hey, morons, Jesus was black for your information. Idiots.
Vlatka211 2 months ago
i love so much the book ,and i watch all movies ..none did i like ... hope this one would be a good one ....
xristina910 2 months ago
4:3 ratio? ARE YOU MAD> WTF HAPPENED TO GOOD OL' WIDESCREEN
MrJoelhoneywell 2 months ago
@MrJoelhoneywell too mainstream :trollface:
tutuyin 2 months ago
dont like this novel n selfish characters jane eyre is the best
Bt2027 2 months ago
What's this movie about?
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This seems aweful! I read the book, I saw the movie with Ralph Fiennes and I liked it. But this looks poor and why is Heathcliff black? He's supposed to be a gypsy! I'm not racist or anything, but I hate when directors take too much liberties in a book adaptation! This is not the Wuthering Heights for me.
BadMoonRising0202 2 months ago
@MyiaSweetIcyCupcake pretty much.. yeah
BornToDie90 2 months ago
This couldn be better. Its exactly how i imagined wuthering heights... The book is one of my favourites ever, so im definitely gonna watch it.
florelipas 2 months ago
This looks poor! :(
madeinthevalleys23 2 months ago
While I don't believe Heathcliff as conceived and written by Brontë was a black man, I get the strong feeling the fan-girls with Doctor Who Tumblrs and every Biffy Clyro song on their iPod wouldn't be upset at all if an actor just as "wrong" for the part in the opposite direction (say, Jamie Campbell Bower) was playing the role. Know what I mean? The way no one much cares when incredibly handsome movie stars are cast as Rochester, who wasn't written as being incredibly handsome...
GunslingerXYZ 2 months ago
People can make as many adaptations of Wuthering Heights as they want but the 1998 TV movie starring Robert Cavanah is irreplaceable. The movie was 90% true to the novel and the dialogues were retained of the book.
TheSerenityangel 2 months ago
Why are people so fussy over Heathcliff being portrayed by a black man? The point is that he is different, an outsider. All it does is give the story a more contemporary edge. I think it's interesting. And furthermore, I don't think that Andrea Arnold was trying to tell the tale as much as make this an artistic film, with a message. The story is only a premise.
heyprettyboy88 2 months ago 2
Does anyone know the song of the ending of this movie?
perfume3v 2 months ago
I will watch this movie only for Kaya Scodelario cause this girl is so talented and beautiful.
Littleflower176 2 months ago 95
O, my God!!! Heathcliff - the Black! Poor Emili Bronte! She, probably, turns over in a coffin! To what we have come with fucking political correctness!
Бог мой!!! Хитклифф - негр!!! Такой кошмар не приснится и во сне! До чего мы докатились с этой долбаной политкорректностью! Бедная Эмили Бронте, вероятно, переворачивается в гробу! (((((
SSStrelka 2 months ago
pero Heatcliffs no es negroo tiene el cabello largo eso es lo q entendi en el libro
rambosolocmucho 2 months ago
@rambosolocmucho y ademas decia en el liibro q el era lindo despues de todo o no?
rambosolocmucho 2 months ago
@rambosolocmucho yo lo lei en ingles y dice claramente que heatcliff tiene "dark skin" piel oscura y el cabello largo era comun en esa epoca pero tmabien lo usaban corto. No creas que todo es como en las peliculas
myraU2 2 months ago
@myraU2 a bueno graxis x corregirme tienes razon
rambosolocmucho 2 months ago
I wish I lived in the UK as this version looks like it has a lot of potential. Here is to hoping it will appear on Netflix.
WolfenRose 2 months ago 42
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WolfenRose 2 months ago
If people dislike that Andrea Arnold cast a black actor as Heathcliff then maybe they should finance, produce and direct their own film version - or easier yet - watch one of the other dozen or so adaptations that have a white Heathcliff.
villagepauper 2 months ago
I saw this film last week, and it was good. It was very dark, there was a lot of animals killed which made the film raw, and the characters, animalistic. You hated all the characters, Catherine and Heathcliff were both horrible. I agree with @heyitsmethatkid though, Heathcliff should not have been black. Also, the actor playing him was only 13 or 14, which made me feel horrendously odd, because he is a good looking boy, and looks older. Also, Nelly wasn't featured hardly at all, which was sad!
Nixinana81 2 months ago
@shahoney I didn't actually! but middle eastern people are more commonly described as gypsies, if Emily Brontë had wanted to say someone black, the word "moor" had been more appropriate. (she might have used this word, but gypsy stood out more to me.)
heyitsmethatkid 2 months ago
@heyitsmethatkid but Mr earnshaw was being very criptic about the "gypsy" I don't think it would have been impossible that a very dark skinned boy had been traveling along with the gypsies of that Mr. Earnshaw didn't want to give to many specifics. I found a black heathcliff as believable and real as a caucasian one.
myraU2 2 months ago
@BornToDie90 are you saying that blacks and other "non-whites" are NOT capable of creating character depth and thoughts?
heyitsmethatkid 2 months ago 2
not to offend but i think as well that heathcliff should have been darker, but not black. nothing against Africans but it just doesn't fit. and for the people going crazy here about the US confusion here, i didn't think the person implied that the movies should have been produced in America, but really just that its not airing there. i live right now in Germany and when i say, sadly its not in Germany i don't mean it being made here.
123iwetta 2 months ago
Heathcliff was white... The whole gypsie-like reference was to give him a harsher and spiritually darker tone that didn't abide to the whole English high class society... His charachter debth and his complicated mindset make it impossible for him to be non-white
BornToDie90 2 months ago
@BornToDie90
Perhaps you spell English words correctly to demonstrate that you have the capability to assert a point. Nonetheless, you're viewpoint is questionable and racist.
rangels001 2 months ago
@rangels001 maybe cause I am racist (at least that's the term brainwashed racial marxists like you would use)... and I apologize for spelling words correctly I will try to avoid doing so in the future
BornToDie90 2 months ago
isn't that the girl from Skins?
JoHeartsArt 2 months ago
@JoHeartsArt yep, she is the girl from skins.. kaya
agasshiNEE 2 months ago
@agasshiNEE i knew she would go far! an actress that can show emotions without saying one single word is a natural :)
JoHeartsArt 2 months ago
@TheJugernaut94 I wasn't saying that the movie should have been MADE in the US, I was just saying that it's a shame that the movie isn't IN US THEATERS. And even if the movie HAD been made in the US, the quality of the movie really depends on the director and screenwriter. If a great director was directing, they would know better than to choose a complete American to portray the part of heathcliff and Catherine. the place of origin of the movie would not have any or little effect on the movie i
heyitsmethatkid 2 months ago
Nooooooooooo why did they do this? They can't leave a classic alone, can they? No way will I spend any money on this
PinkAngel360 2 months ago
looks cool but making him black on purpose was just stupid. UNLESS it wasnt on purpose, it was bc hes the best. like, make cathy mexican, so accurate. i love me some accuracy u know? IM HAPPY they are teens like theyre supposed to be. 13 when seperated my lintons
Rachulie 2 months ago
i was looking t marchlands clips, how did i get here?
bella14xx 2 months ago
Not enough Kate Bush.
ladiesman2048 2 months ago
I never interpreted Heathcliff as black in the books, but I have no problem with him being black in a film adaption. Its just as valid as Ralph Fiennes playing him.
vonhaig 2 months ago
I can't wait for this, it looks amazing. And it is coming to the US btw, I think in April of 2012. No worries, kids!
I've only watched one other movie version of the novel - the Masterpiece Classic one on PBS - I highly suggest it. It's very true to the story.
heyprettyboy88 2 months ago
Heathcliff is gipsy... Catherine has brown eyes and pale skin... WHY U NO MAKE CHARACTERS FIT DESCRIPTIONS?
saintjimmyandtity 2 months ago
@saintjimmyandtity heathcliff was described as someone with dark skin Kaya is very pale and the cast looks young for a change since Catherine died being a teen, so for me this is the ONLY version in which the actors look close to the book descriptions.
myraU2 2 months ago
@myraU2 do you even know what "dark" meant back then? i'd be dark, and im half arab. they were whiiiiiite. and the darkest was a gypsy, looked like modern gypsy. not a black or half black person. still most villages have like 100% whites.
but if they didnt pick him just bc hes black and they wanted to be different n fuck with accuracy im ok with it.
Rachulie 2 months ago
yy :/
Nefertiti1901 3 months ago
Why wasn't this movie out in america. I'm dying to see this movie. I read this book seven years ago and since then, I've been waiting for a movie. Well there was already a movie but I couldn't sit and watch it......It was too old. Anyways back to what i was saying. I didn't even know this was out until one of my friends told me and what's worse is that, it only came out in the UK. Not that there's anything wrong with uk but why not worldwide lol.........ugh never mind :(
101paramoreluver 3 months ago 3
@101paramoreluver they have already like 2 or three movies i think you can find them on net flix 2 are really old and one is only like 2 years old or something like that
mcdancinqueen14 3 months ago
@mcdancinqueen14 oh ok thanks for telling me, I think I'll watch the one that came out 2 years ago instead
101paramoreluver 3 months ago
I never imagined Heathcliff as being either white or really English when I read the book. A black Heathcliff is probably truer to the novel and its spirit than the vedy vedy English Olivier version
Cybele1986 3 months ago 11
im sorry, i nodded off during this trailer...did i miss anything?
greygalah 3 months ago
I had to read this book in college...worst semester of my life!
snakedoc1306 3 months ago
Effy ♥ :D
MellyMisfits 3 months ago 5
Ugh my favorite book of all time and every single movie is ruined by awkward casting. I guess it's just me because i was never a fan of the miss scodelario. I actually do like the casting of Heathcliffe as black though. Old wuthering heights movies with white heathcliffe is just simply absurd lol. Still, casting is a bit of a disappointment ...well..because heathcliffe looks too damn nice!!!
333pinkelephant333 3 months ago
this movie seems awesome, but like a lot of people here, I don't think someone of african descent really "suits" heathcliff. he's described as a "gypsy" which would mean that he would look more Spanish or middle easten, rather than a black man. I am NOT being racist here, I also think the "white washed" versions are incorrect too; I just think that this guy doesn't describe the character well. of course, I haven't seen it, so I cannot judge his acting, but too bad it's not in the U.S.
heyitsmethatkid 3 months ago 68
@heyitsmethatkid A real shame that 'mainstream' audiences have to have everything spelled out for them
ika2 2 months ago
@heyitsmethatkid if it was in us, the corelation betwen movie and book would be totaly destroyed,dont take me wrong, but if americans have money, that doesnt mean theyre good at movies, what you want? a wethering heights movie with Captain America as Heatcliff???Seriously, we need good actors for such a movie made upon a great book.Hope you understand, peace!And about heatchliff being black, yep its kinda weird, "gipsy mean more like a indian , or like you said , midle eastern kind.
TheJugernaut94 2 months ago
@heyitsmethatkid i totally agree with you because i have read the book and heathcliff is described as you said..but maybe it's good even though i believe the one with ralph fiennes and juliette binoche is more representative of the characters and one of my favourite movies as well:)
accus21 2 months ago
@heyitsmethatkid - you do know that there ARE black gypsies, right?
shahoney 2 months ago
@heyitsmethatkid
You are being incredibly stupid and narrow minded though.
colourcry 2 months ago
@heyitsmethatkid I agree. I saw this film last week, and I think that by making him black in the film was a bit gimmicky. He was just a gypsy, it didn't say he was black. It seems offensive for the director to make the gypsy boy black in my opinion.
Nixinana81 2 months ago
@heyitsmethatkid If it was in the US, knowing HOLLYWOOD, they would whitewash this entire story.
Remember. In the US, people still don't like our interracial couples being put on screen, especially non-white men with white women.
SocialAndPolitical 2 months ago
@heyitsmethatkid gypsies roam the world.... they can be anything.. its about the mind right? in turn body soul etc. never color ... i know you're not being racist but when should that ever even have to be an issue ..... more than skin deep no?
0mni1115 2 months ago
i agree i wish i was in england so i can watch the movie. Y don't they sent it to U.S. i mean is the director shy or what i mean from what i read from trailer she's a award winning director there nothing to be afraid plz sent it US we lov <3 KAYA SHE"S COOL BITCH, BITCH!
Justicepowerflower 3 months ago
oh my god i wish i was in England! WE DON'T HAVE THIS IN STATES!
acciostargirl 3 months ago
the girl who play Catherine is the one who plays Effy on Skins UK right???
acciostargirl 3 months ago
@acciostargirl obviously
Justicepowerflower 3 months ago
@acciostargirl yup.
DSQueenie 3 months ago
Is this film actually shot in a 4:3 ratio? No one does that anymore but Robbie Ryan is a cracking cinematographer so I'm sure he knows what he's doing. Brilliant book, looking forward to seeing what they've done with it.
BedeFilms 3 months ago
love this movie. just love it.
natmj93 3 months ago
I wish I was in England so I could go watch this in the cinemas... Ohh Kaya I love you<3
vikigirl14997 3 months ago 2
Well, regardless of the plot, I believe we all know how this ends?
... Probably gonna watch it anyway
ZoeBubuRoccoJoe 3 months ago
holy mother of god ANDREA ARNOLD YOU LIFE RUINER
this looks so incredible
culturevulture123 3 months ago
The house seems to be a little off, but other than that... I do love this actress :)
Black Heathcliff is a little off putting but I agree that it makes sense...
Oh how I can't wait to find this and watch it!
mar1na1993 3 months ago
@lucyinthesky165 Actually, as I said, they are called "gypsies" now, Trust me. And btw, I am Romanian, I know what all this stuff (the diff. between "Romani" and "Gypsies") is, awright? ;)
TheNastification 3 months ago
lingonbarn, cinema is made for breaking the rules. what audacity, you sound truley ignorant, its 2011, do you know that.
brittagina 3 months ago
@brittagina
haha, oh no. i was trying to be sarcastic, in response to some other commenters who were talking about her "going too far". i completely agree with what you say, and i also know that heathcliff wasn't even supposed to be white in the book. i'm sorry it didn't come across too well in my comment , but i hope this clears up the misunderstanding :)
lingonbarn 3 months ago
does anybody know when wuthring heights arrive in italy?? i love the book but a lot of people said me that films were horrible... thanks
JanePearse 3 months ago in playlist Trailer
yes, andrea arnold has truly gone too far. how dare she cast a black actor to play the part of a character traditionally portrayed by a white actor (even though his ethnicity was really ambiguous in the book)? him being white was, like, the most important part of his character, and she just up and ruined it. THE AUDACITY.
lingonbarn 3 months ago
@lingonbarn Heathcliff is a dark skinned Gypsy in the book, he easily have been moorish so this fits well
strayebyrd 3 months ago
Seriously, who cares about the skin colour? (Which btw doesn't seem to be disturbing at all to me...) I am just pleased to see, that a Keira Kneightly isn't ruining a wonderful piece of classic world literature again! I am so going to watch this when it is premiering in Germany!
OMworldsBgk 3 months ago
I really don't understand the controversy. Heathcliffe was described as a dark skinned gypsy and of low birth. The character has to be someone who is stigmatised by society. Someone who everyone he meets is suspicious of and prejudiced against. Casting a black actor brings the Heathcliffe right up to date.
Such a shame everyone has to focus on the actor's colour, rather than the quite incredible mood of the film. Utter genius.
lebroisky 3 months ago 5
@lebroisky I completely agree with you. The basic concept is about a love that was not only "forbidden" but shunned by society at that time. In the BOOK he is described as you mentioned. The fact he is black is irrelevant to the basic principle of the story. Let's face it interracial let alone couples of opposite "classes" having relationships has been something of a taboo for a long time. I don't understand the uproar considering 95% of other adaptations are not true to the book.
ThisGirlConnie 3 months ago
so hard to compete after Timothy Dalton's performance.
inannarising1 3 months ago
mumford and sons!
milanoforeva 3 months ago
:O kaya scodelerio is SUCH a good choice for Cathy... Pumped. For. This.
gkbabyy 3 months ago
hmmmmmmm
taverlisk 3 months ago
I've heard this isn't very good!
ButtHaver1993 3 months ago
@ButtHaver1993 I don't know who your source is, but rottentomatoes scores it as 83% fresh so....
sarees 3 months ago
i have other point of view about this "new" version , because Heathcliff was a ICON into this famous book , we all grow up (i`m not old) with a poor white boy , who after looks like a old English man knight (sorry but it is`nt racism) but all can imagine who was a real english knight (like a "lord") ok , ( like Laurence Olivier!!!!!) but this new heathcliff looks like a slave , i know the people can judge me , but is my opinion and this is for all movies who likes add "new" ideas , bpffff !
MetallicCeltic 3 months ago
@MetallicCeltic He's (Heathcliff) described as having dark skin, his her is black and curly, and he is referred to as a gypsy. Nelly speculates he could have been of Spanish origin. He wouldn't have been white-white. In fact, Heathcliff is found in Liverpool, which, only a few decades earlier than the book is set, was a major port for slavery. So i don't think the film has stretched the "truth" that far by making Heathcliff black.
massiveants 3 months ago 16
@massiveants look, we all KNOW gypsies arent black. and that heathcliff wasnt black. ok? ppl dont even realize that "dark" back then was just tan. im lebanese, im light light olive. when i went to denmark they said im "colored" bc they r so white. ppl in 1700s uk were white white white!! n some gypsies r tan. so that would be called dark/colored then. maybe they wanted to be different by having a black hc idk. maybe he was best actor. IDK. but we all know hc wasnt black, so stop that right there
Rachulie 2 months ago
@massiveants I agree with you there. Also it is possible that they, living far out on the countryside, didn't know how an african person looked like, and spanish was the closest they had seen before. I don't think Gypsy or african is the main point, the main point in that aspect was that he looked different from them... But the colour of the actors skin is not very important at all. What is important is how he acts the part and portrays Heatcliffs personality.
DPheart 2 months ago 2
@MetallicCeltic Look up Olaudah Equiano. He lived before Emily Bronte who wrote the story, in Britain, was black, and was a functioning member of society who made his own living. He had been a slave in America, but purchased his freedom and set up his own life in England. It may not have been common but it did happen. Slavery had been abolished in England by the book's time so the actor doesn't "look like a slave" and he fits the physical description of Heathcliff in the book.
magicalmissmagic 3 months ago 2
It's effy from skins!
katrina3759 3 months ago
wats up with all of you? its a film.calm down.
cellfonezilla 3 months ago
@789hjc This debate is just terrific – I'm learning so much Victorian history I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT KNOW! (And that's supposed to be one of my specialties), but as I commented to @redcorpse above (a little heatedly at first), Arnold has simply gone too far. Would prefer to see her take than the very staid, emotionless and banal Hardy/Riley/Lincoln version, though.
eglantinelass 3 months ago
@Dodikind Thank you: that's an excellent point and further demonstrates that Andrea Arnold has gone too far with her cinema verite-meets-the classics approach. Please see my comments to redcorpse above. And as I read further I see this debate gets juicier still – teaching me lots of history I absolutely did not know!
eglantinelass 3 months ago
WOW He is Black!!? YAY finally!! is this out yet? cus i wanna see how it goes!!
beegirlsable 3 months ago
KAYA SCODELARIO!
xMSxHNx 3 months ago
Effy!
yakobemil 3 months ago
He's a Roma not African... Roma are gypsies with golden or olive skin!
MegaZoeyBird 3 months ago 4
@MegaZoeyBird well his skin color is of african descent or?
beegirlsable 3 months ago
@MegaZoeyBird Yeah, y'know, as multicultural a person as I am – how far do we have to push the classics these days, really? At a certain point directors go BEYOND what was intended by the authors at that point they've properly gone too far. Rereading the novel right now, and it's truly remarkable how like day and night Emily and Charlotte were. Personally I got hooked on Jane Eyre at 14 and never looked back. Found it sexy and prophetic beyond all redemption: a perfect personality fit.
eglantinelass 3 months ago
@eglantinelass even if Bronte didn't intend for Heathcliff to be black, why does it matter so much that he is in this movie? Characters in movies are portrayed differently from how they are described in the books all the time so why is his skin color such a big deal? And this movie is just one interpretation. Isn't it good that there are a variety of adaptions that you can choose from?
musicisdivinity 3 months ago
What the fuck have they done to Wuthering Heights? O.o
LisaMackXx 3 months ago
perhaps the actor playing Heathcliff was simply the best actor for the part? regardless of his skin colour?
LucieSweet 3 months ago 42
@LucieSweet Yes :) And Heathcliff is described as a dark, gypsy boy in the book. So the actor is actually quite well-chosen :) Nowhere in the book does it say that he is caucasian, so.. :D
L0wrey 3 months ago
@LucieSweet Yeah that's right. Heathcliff was a very dark skinned person according to the book as well. Whether he is black or is of gipsy origin - as the book implies - is not very relevant.
tektakin 3 months ago 4
why the hell did they make Heathcliff african?!
Rosalindxxxxxx 3 months ago
@Rosalindxxxxxx Because he's described as being dark skinned gypsy in the book? Maybe also because Liverpool, where Mr Earnshaw found Heathcliff, was also known for being a slave trade port during the time the novel takes place making it not be a completely erroneous decision? Poor you. Must be hard having a non white washed version, more textually accurate version out there.
redcorpse 3 months ago 5
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