Okay I may be stupid but i don't understand why they call John F. Kennedy "Jack", when his name was John? Was it a nickmane? Sorry I'm not an Englishman.
Anyway I love John F.K. he was America's best president ever, why did they have to kill him and his brother, I don't understand they were both great men.
In the U.S., it is often customary for nicknames to used in place of a given name. Some common names and nicknames are: John (Jack), Robert (Rob/Robbie/Bob/Bobby), James (Jim/Jimmy), Richard (Richie/Dick), Henry (Hank), Margaret (Margie/Peggy), Elizabeth (Betty/Eliza/Beth), Martha (Mattie), etc., etc.
What if Rosemary was creative & sensitive but became frustrated, angry & trapped by the limitations/conventions imposed by family and religion? Remember what happened to Francis Farmer? Today women who do not 'fit in' in ignorant sexist parts of the world are treated abominably by those in charge and may be killed unless they 'choose' to disappear into the accepted roles of their immediate society. But you're OK in the free world, just stay botoxed & airbrushed with 36DDcup. So it goes....
@cosmoguru1988 she wasnt born like special needs aka like full on retard. she was born probably autistic but after joe sr tried the lobotomy behind rose's back she was pretty much gone in the head. and remember rose was born def b4 1880ish. they didnt even have a vaccine for polio yet, u could buy heroin in pharmacies and so on. i really dont think its a lie like some scientology cult thing
She had never heard of a retarded child? And this is supposed to be an educated, enlightened woman? It was barbaric and inexcusable what Rose and Joe, Sr. had done to that girl.
Let's see, Rose Marie was not interested in sports, not interested in politics, not interested in backbiting and competition, not interested in religion. Ah Ha - she must need a lobotomy and live happily ever after. This broad is a monster.
I think the basic explanation of her lobotomy is not that Joe was a saint and wanted to spare her trauma. People knew at the time it was a drastic step to calm an uncontrollable person, and it was to prevent her continuing down a road of being increasingly frustrated, acting-out, and probably pregnant. It was his way of removing a potentially damaging player from the family stage. I don't believe Rose Kennedy ever got over it, and I don't believe Joe Kennedy did not know what he was doing.
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I think you are being too charitable. Rose admits herself that Rose Marie was defective and should be killed. The church approved after getting a payoff. What I can't figure out is why someone like Joe Kennedy - who could afford whores by the busload - would settle for this piece of trash.
Joe wanted to marry Rose as a matter of conquest. He had been made to feel worthless by the well-to-do protestants in the area. Rose came from a wealthy family.
@sisalrug ive heard rose was mad about that the rest of her life, and where shit with joe jr jfk and bobby were acts of god, rose mary was preventable. lets be honest tho, no the kennedys arent saints but ppl saying bad stuff here dont realize this world and country would be much better had they lived. instead we have the bush family who lies about WMDs, pat tillman, foreknowledge of 911, lying to get us into iraq, tax cuts for billionaires, the FEMA/ New Orl. disaster, bailouts, economy and on
It seems Joe and Rosemary wanted all of their children to be cerebral and athletic, with little emotion. What if one of them had been more artistic - is that why Rosemary was lobotomised? I pity anyone born into that family.
No, Rosemary was not lobotomized because she was artistic. By the beginning of WWII she was becoming violent and wandering out at night. Joe wanted to spare her the emotional trama that she was going through. The doctors told him that she could live without the violence and mental lapses and Joe went ahead with the surgery before really investigating it. They had not really ever done it on mentally challenged people like Rosemary, and it went bad. She was placed in St. Coletta's in Wisconsin.
She is a bitch
lorileeky 7 months ago
How do you drill into someone's head, change them forever, lock them up forever and never visit them because you "heartbroken"
Heartbroken people don't hurt their children like that
MartinezFreddie 9 months ago
How does someone live untill 105 years old is amazing.
v19d 1 year ago
I WANT THAT BUICK REGAL... @1:03
TheBruT4L1ty 1 year ago 2
FU!!!!!!!!!!!
rs216016 1 year ago
drop dead
rs216016 1 year ago
@rs216016
You must have a miserable life.
UofLCardFan08 1 year ago
@rs216016 she already did =P
Ryanxclarke 1 year ago
Rosenary had to go because she wasn't a "winner"! I wouldn't have lasted five minutes in that family.
louisa1832 1 year ago
Okay I may be stupid but i don't understand why they call John F. Kennedy "Jack", when his name was John? Was it a nickmane? Sorry I'm not an Englishman.
Anyway I love John F.K. he was America's best president ever, why did they have to kill him and his brother, I don't understand they were both great men.
boegh86 1 year ago
In the U.S., it is often customary for nicknames to used in place of a given name. Some common names and nicknames are: John (Jack), Robert (Rob/Robbie/Bob/Bobby), James (Jim/Jimmy), Richard (Richie/Dick), Henry (Hank), Margaret (Margie/Peggy), Elizabeth (Betty/Eliza/Beth), Martha (Mattie), etc., etc.
IslandWx 1 year ago
@IslandWx
ahaaa, well thanks that was really helpful:)
boegh86 1 year ago
Hey you old crusty bitch all you did was raise a bunch of whores and whore masters.
Rose was the lucky one she didn't have to grow up with such pigs.
I hope you and your rotten cheating husbund are burning in HELL.
rs216016 1 year ago
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@rs216016
You have an agenda...
UofLCardFan08 1 year ago
@rs216016 What a stupid, un empathic comment. Look at all the suffering.
If it were you, or your family. I wonder how you would feel if some kid wrote that about you.
Jeannenyc57 1 year ago
What if Rosemary was creative & sensitive but became frustrated, angry & trapped by the limitations/conventions imposed by family and religion? Remember what happened to Francis Farmer? Today women who do not 'fit in' in ignorant sexist parts of the world are treated abominably by those in charge and may be killed unless they 'choose' to disappear into the accepted roles of their immediate society. But you're OK in the free world, just stay botoxed & airbrushed with 36DDcup. So it goes....
Weenybean 1 year ago
monster family
rs216016 1 year ago
you old bitch. I hope you and your husband?? are rotting in HELL
rs216016 1 year ago
rose is lying about rosie
cosmoguru1988 2 years ago 10
@cosmoguru1988 she wasnt born like special needs aka like full on retard. she was born probably autistic but after joe sr tried the lobotomy behind rose's back she was pretty much gone in the head. and remember rose was born def b4 1880ish. they didnt even have a vaccine for polio yet, u could buy heroin in pharmacies and so on. i really dont think its a lie like some scientology cult thing
pat442389 1 year ago
She had never heard of a retarded child? And this is supposed to be an educated, enlightened woman? It was barbaric and inexcusable what Rose and Joe, Sr. had done to that girl.
BamaChris 2 years ago 14
@BamaChris You forgot ignorant and stupid for people so high up in power. Then again, power doesn't mean intelligence.
MartinezFreddie 9 months ago
@BamaChris I truly understand your anger, but at that time disability was not seen or understood as we do today
MrsFreshMorning 7 months ago
@BamaChris Keep in mind that that was back in the 1930's or 40's when mental retardation wasn't that understood yet.
Madizzle90 2 months ago
Let's see, Rose Marie was not interested in sports, not interested in politics, not interested in backbiting and competition, not interested in religion. Ah Ha - she must need a lobotomy and live happily ever after. This broad is a monster.
txmcxlx 2 years ago
I think the basic explanation of her lobotomy is not that Joe was a saint and wanted to spare her trauma. People knew at the time it was a drastic step to calm an uncontrollable person, and it was to prevent her continuing down a road of being increasingly frustrated, acting-out, and probably pregnant. It was his way of removing a potentially damaging player from the family stage. I don't believe Rose Kennedy ever got over it, and I don't believe Joe Kennedy did not know what he was doing.
sisalrug 2 years ago 3
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I think you are being too charitable. Rose admits herself that Rose Marie was defective and should be killed. The church approved after getting a payoff. What I can't figure out is why someone like Joe Kennedy - who could afford whores by the busload - would settle for this piece of trash.
txmcxlx 2 years ago
Joe wanted to marry Rose as a matter of conquest. He had been made to feel worthless by the well-to-do protestants in the area. Rose came from a wealthy family.
BamaChris 2 years ago
Well, she was a whore. That I will concede.
txmcxlx 2 years ago
@sisalrug ive heard rose was mad about that the rest of her life, and where shit with joe jr jfk and bobby were acts of god, rose mary was preventable. lets be honest tho, no the kennedys arent saints but ppl saying bad stuff here dont realize this world and country would be much better had they lived. instead we have the bush family who lies about WMDs, pat tillman, foreknowledge of 911, lying to get us into iraq, tax cuts for billionaires, the FEMA/ New Orl. disaster, bailouts, economy and on
pat442389 1 year ago
@pat442389 Thanks for your commentary Oliver Stone...
mulder1021 1 year ago
where is part 4?
shillabarquet 2 years ago
It seems Joe and Rosemary wanted all of their children to be cerebral and athletic, with little emotion. What if one of them had been more artistic - is that why Rosemary was lobotomised? I pity anyone born into that family.
AdArmand 3 years ago 3
No, Rosemary was not lobotomized because she was artistic. By the beginning of WWII she was becoming violent and wandering out at night. Joe wanted to spare her the emotional trama that she was going through. The doctors told him that she could live without the violence and mental lapses and Joe went ahead with the surgery before really investigating it. They had not really ever done it on mentally challenged people like Rosemary, and it went bad. She was placed in St. Coletta's in Wisconsin.
Ivegotjoy74 2 years ago
I agree
laurenhopesheba 2 years ago