@metallica9100 thats how its supposed to be but unfortunately ranged hasn't had high level updates for a very long time and magic has been getting them quite frequently now which means magic is better than range at the moment, no questioning it. but maybe if he used d bolts and swift gloves he might have a chance of knocking the mage out
its not fair beacuse the blood spell regenerates life soo it means that the virtus guy has his inv of pots + the enemy inv and y think chaotic cross with d bolts can make a difference with a eagle eye shield but now with storm of armadyl i cant tell :/
I'm fairly certain CCB/divine is better than handcannon, even if not in dps. Not that it matters, because storm of armadyl would definitely win it back for mage, even if the difference did put range on top. Miasmic barrage is also a somewhat unfair disadvantage if the ranger wasn't using super restores to get rid of the effect. Still, i'm sure virtus would still win now because of Storm of Armadyl.
i didnt say very excited i said excited lol like i said open your eyes! and if you mean dps as in damage per second then that isnt the best gear lol hc is slow, i guess since you dont have a ccb you wouldnt know you probably have like 67 range or something and you seem pretty inexperienced
@MegaBradden Hand cannons and crossbows have the same attack speed on rapid. They both have an attack speed of one attack per five game ticks. Oh, and I have 27 million range xp. I'm pretty sure I know how combat works.
@MegaBradden Last time I checked, Miasmic Barrage is still considered to be a mage spell, therefore, if I have the money to use it, why shouldn't it? If it gives me an edge over rangers, then I WILL use it.
Hand cannons offer the best DPS out of any range weapon because of they're massive range strength bonus. Do you really think that if he used a spectral spirit shield, he would make me use 6 3/4 more saradomin brews? No, he wouldn't. I would still win. With ease.
@Latin1917 just cause its a mage spell doesnt mean its "fair" you guys should both be attacking at your max speed otherwise the fight shouldnt count for anything. and i guarentee you if he had ccb, since your using a chaotic weapon, and ccb is better to begin with with like dbolts(e) he would rock your ass and probably would have used like 1 brew. you are retarded if you cant see the fight was unfair
@MegaBradden You're retarted if you seriously think he would end up using only one brew. Here's the answer: antifire potion.
What exactly makes it unfair? The spell exists for a reason, which is to be used to increase your chance of winning. And what exactly does attack speed have to do with me using Blood Barrage and Miasmic Barrage? You're not making any sense.
@Latin1917 miasmic barrage makes the other person attack at half their normal speed incase you didnt know that since you might be new to the game i guess.
@MegaBradden There is a difference between simply wanting to share a video and getting very exited over something. The fight isn't unfair, we're both in the best DPS equipment for the respective class.
But by any means, if you think you can do any better than my friend, then we can duel :) It won't change a thing.
@MegaBradden Please quote me where I'm "all exited" over winning the duel. I knew I would win. Range sucks too much to beat a maxed mage.
Lastly, I wasn't using Blood Burst. It's called Blood Barrage. Get your facts right. And again, Blood Barrage is a mage spell, so I will use it. If it increases my chances of winning, then I will use it. derp
@Latin1917 lol you were excited enough to post a video.. obviously it is a mage spell idiot ass if you could open your fuckin eyes you will see i said it is an unfair fight because he isnt able to heal as well, your ass was too excited about winning to see what was really going on+ ccb is way better than hc
Yo since your over here callin jumpjumpnow an idiot lemme tell you that your an idiot. 1, you were using zuriels which made him attack at halfspeed, 2 his ass was using a hc and not a ccb or even a rune cb which wouldve made a huge difference. so YOUR the idiot getting all excited over winning
Fine, supply my friend with enough javelins for a whole fight (they're 100k ish each I think) and we'll redo the fight. You must me a complete idiot if you think the javelins would make a lot of difference. They can be farcasted, and the special attack is pretty useless when I use the leech special attack curse. I still had 6 3/4 brews left after my friend died. Two special attacks won't make use that many more brews. I'll still win. Magic wins, range loses.
@Latin1917 If he leeches spec to it does nothing i think? I know mage would still win. But farcasting is as usefull as far ranging with sighted bow(Not usefull att all) Especially if using sagiage
By the way, it still shows that magic is the dominant combat style. But it's just way too expensive to be taken as a serious style to fight with all time. Melee/range does fine in rune/black d'hide, but mage pretty much needs a sol, arcane stream, ahrims at the very least, not to mention the rune costs. A zuriels staff is a MUST when fighting a ranger, or you're simply getting raped. Not your average welfare gear, considering it's going against black dhide :)
@Religu Magic is dirt cheap these days. Fire surge is less than 500 GP per. Ice barrage is around 1,400 per. SoL cuts those further. As for PvP risk, mages do NOT need that. We have tested standard "welfare" PKing equipment many times. Black d'hide with rapier easily loses to mystic and ancient staff, without farcasting. ASN would be protected item. Zuriel staff is NOT a must when fighting a ranger, we have done it without it, but it does make it significantly harder without miasmic.
I agree with you that the farcasting "might" work, but a handcannon just isn't the best ranged weapon. Have you thought of a zaryte bow? Dunno really. The mage is defo in max gear, but the ranger isn't imo...
Also the crossbow beats the cannon in speed, and I'd expect to see at LEAST specs with morr javs. It's just not fair if the mage is in max gear while the ranger is it, you get that?
@Religu Of course we have considered the zaryte bow. I think it's a good option because the consistency of it would be tough for the mage, but the fact remains that the cannon has a slightly higher DPS average. Crossbow does NOT beat cannon in speed. They are both 3 seconds. As is clearly seen in this video, the mage has loads of healing left at the end. 2 or maybe 4 morrrigan javelin specials do NOT equal 7 more brews used in any way at all.
The divine cuts off the mage's attack, but not the rangers. You say you want to make it realistic. Ok, pvp weps are indeed expensive. But what mage is going to farcast and stand exactly 10 squares away? Seems like a hard job. The ranger would simply switch to sagaie and there you go, on the long range ;)
It just doesn't sound right that the mage uses pvp while the ranger does. In a real situation you wouldn't run around with such gear either ;)
@Religu Doesn't change that the divine is still a better benefit for the mage than ranger. Farcasting is not that difficult once you get used to it, I might make a video on how to do it easily sometime. Sagaies are weak, they could never force a mage to eat. Blood barrage and SS would be plenty against those. (Yes, we have tested it.) All that PvP equipment is, is more money. How is the staff different from more runes? It's ALL just money. Difference is ranger would have to spend 10x more.
He simply misses pvp weapons. If he'd use javelins he'd have range and power of the cannon (with a much better spec) and the speed and the shield of the chaotic crossbow. It just makes no sense that you use pvp gear and he doesn't ;)
@Religu Like I already said to another guy, using morrigan weapons is insanely expensive. An entire fight of throwing javelins is 45k per 3.6 seconds and axes are 33k per 3 seconds. 520 second fight, is 6.5m with javelins or 5.7m with axes. Have fun with that. I seriously doubt it would make range win, but even if it did, with that kind of insane cost per fight, range isn't REALLY winning. He's getting screwed either way.
So the mage uses pvp weapons and the ranger does not. Not to mention the ranger misses a divine/ccb/dbolts.. Offcourse you win. If he had pvp weapons too with a divine or maybe even spectral you wouldn't win :P
@Religu Yeah, the ranger could have used a divine with a one handed weapon. As any idiot should be able to see, the mage can too though. In fact, the usage of divines benefits magic MORE. Each having 30% reduction, means a much longer fight, meaning much more time for the mage's blood barrage to come into play. If the ranger uses CCB, the mage will simply farcast him, seriously cutting his DPS. At this point the ranger could either sit and take it, or switch weapons, and lose divine effect.
@JumpJumpnow And you seriously think a sighted longbow is going to do any damage at all? It's slow, it's weak and even worse when under the effect of Miasmic and the curse Leech Ranged. Not to mention it's 2 handed, lowering your mage defence.
Hand cannon is terrible because you are missing out on 30 Mage defence and range has other methods of hitting from far away. Plus if I'm ranging with such high Mage def I'd love for you to try to be trying to cath a freeze the whole time cuz whenever u cast an ice spell u aren't casting zuriel barrage or blood and the whole time his range be merkin u
@FackingV Hand cannon has the highest DPS of all range weapons when you consider farcasting. Remember even if you did break out the oh-so-scary morrigan weapons, I'd farcast them. Those have a very short distance. As you can see in this video, despite my insanely high magic defence, he had VERY good accuracy. 160 something to 190 something is NOT going to make the difference from pretty accurate to splash every time. Use common sense, please. And it isn't "zuriel barrage"...
The only way to farcast longbow is if you stand EXACTLY 10 away cuz 9 means he can att and 11 means he can move again. Plus if ur trying to farcast his cbow then youll be crying when he pulls sagaies. If he bring bolas ur screwed too cuz he can hide under you like a Mage but u can't spam click with mage
@FackingV Farcasting range isn't all that difficult. You get used to going exactly to 10 squares away. And remember, the CROSSBOW (not longbow, those are shit) only can do 9 squares on longrange, which is slower by .6 seconds. In a fight this long, that is 173 shots versus 144. That's a pretty significant difference in total damage, so even if you don't get the perfect 10 square farcast, you still seriously impair the ranger. Oh and sagaies are shit, we have tested them. Hand cannon is better.
@FackingV 33k per 3 seconds with an 8 minutes 40 second fight, comes out to 5.7 million lost. If you want to spend that for one fight to beat a mage, be my guest. I'm very skeptical that it would even make range win, but I'm not blowing nearly 6 million on one fight. No one would.
@kosesnop "Note: I'm aware my friend could have a used a chaotic crossbow and spectral spirit shield, but keep in mind that I can farcast that. My accuracy would be lower, yes, but my friend wouldn't be able to attack back for a large part of the fight. Besides, the hand cannon does more DPS than a chaotic crossbow."
@kosesnop I didn't use Ice Barrage because I knew he was using a hand cannon. I would bring Ice Barrage for other fights, which means a ranger using a crossbow wouldn't be able to attack half of the time. He wouldn't win when he's under the effect of Miasmic and unable to attack back while I use Blood Barrage to heal myself from any damage.
I probably wouldn't win without Miasmic, no. But here's the thing: I can use it, and so I will. It's a mage spell and I will use it if it makes me win.
@charlesandjulien Ava's alerter only gives 5 range attack bonus. His range attack is already 202 in this video. A mere 5 points extra is around 2,47% extra accuracy. So no, I wouldn't say it's worth it. The fire cape offers more magic defence, which you really need against a mage wearing virtus.
"Note: I'm aware my friend could have a used a chaotic crossbow and spectral spirit shield, but keep in mind that I can farcast that. My accuracy would be lower, yes, but my friend wouldn't be able to attack back for a large part of the fight. Besides, the hand cannon does more DPS than a chaotic crossbow."
Omfg, he could far-range you with Sighted mage long bow, it hits from 13 squares!!!!!
Might be a bit boring, but atleast people can see it for themselves now. People are so damn stubborn that it doesn't really matter though. They will continue to insist that it's somehow inefficient, underpowered, etc. About this vid for example-they'd cry about you using Pvp gear (miasmic) while Pip didn't-even though it wouldn't have made any difference at all.
Wow, that is boring. Is there any point to me uploading the other duels? I mean, if I get my ass kicked ranging in pernix, is anyone really going to doubt that I also got owned meleeing in pernix? I say screw it.
Oh and by the way, only reason you won was because you had imbued rings and I didn't. Unfair advantage.
@Pip6465 You can't expect everyone to use their common sense like we do. I'm pretty sure there's still a lot of people who think you would win if you used a chaotic rapier, spectral spirit shield and dragon claws.
This did prove this for me, but you shouldn't use miasmic unless he is using morrigans, and i think spectral and ccbow with onyx bolts would have done better than cannon. + he did not venge. Im pretty sure outcome would not have changed but do not say he was using best gear when he was not using it.
@JumpJumpnow You have to stay realitstic. No one is going to attack with Morrigan's weapons for eight minutes straight, especially not now they're so expensive.
Spectral spirit shield and onyx bolts (e) wouldn't do better. I could farcast the crossbow, which would affect my friend's DPS by A LOT. The special effect of the bolts activates rarely and it only heals for 25% of what you hit. It won't really help my friend, since he's missing out on a lot of attack turns if he would use a crossbow.
@Latin1917 And thus miss out on a lot of healing from Soul Split, because he wouldn't be able to attack me! The loss of healing from Soul Split is greater the small amount of healing onyx bolts (e) give you, thus it wouldn't be a great option to use. It's best to use a weapon that can attack a mage from far away, and out of the few weapons that can do this, the hand cannon does the most DPS.
And yeah, he forgot Vengeance. Oh well. I doubt it would've made me eat anything more.
Yeah, but this is cinda misleading "We're both wearing the best possible equipment for our respective class" Yes venge would have made you eat more, but not by much. Farcasting with mage takes to much setting up to be useful against ranger, you could say that ranger can far(range?) mage with Mage long bow sighted? It hits from 13 squares more usefull?.
Overall im pretty sure mage would have won any way but Saying you were both using best gear is false.
imagine with storm of armadyl.......
gman88ice 1 week ago
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xXweebakeebaXx 2 weeks ago
use ccb withd bolts, you will rape that mager.
metallica9100 3 weeks ago
@metallica9100 If "That mager" would have been using storm of armadyl, he would have penatrated his anus until it bled.
ddisgdiertt1029 3 weeks ago
@ddisgdiertt1029 nah range>mage melee>range mage>melee u dum bro? lol
also pernix helps with mage defence & robes have no defence against range or melee
metallica9100 2 weeks ago
@metallica9100 thats how its supposed to be but unfortunately ranged hasn't had high level updates for a very long time and magic has been getting them quite frequently now which means magic is better than range at the moment, no questioning it. but maybe if he used d bolts and swift gloves he might have a chance of knocking the mage out
omenakookos 1 week ago
@omenakookos i dont think so rigour and ccb is quite op
metallica9100 1 week ago
@metallica9100 its powerful yes but mages are even better...
omenakookos 1 week ago
Amg people stop complaining that it is unfair -.-
runescaperangerpwns 1 month ago
its not fair beacuse the blood spell regenerates life soo it means that the virtus guy has his inv of pots + the enemy inv and y think chaotic cross with d bolts can make a difference with a eagle eye shield but now with storm of armadyl i cant tell :/
sasasa966 1 month ago
I'm fairly certain CCB/divine is better than handcannon, even if not in dps. Not that it matters, because storm of armadyl would definitely win it back for mage, even if the difference did put range on top. Miasmic barrage is also a somewhat unfair disadvantage if the ranger wasn't using super restores to get rid of the effect. Still, i'm sure virtus would still win now because of Storm of Armadyl.
RhiehnD 1 month ago
Lol@ all of these people thinking cbow/divine/spec would've made a significant difference.
BladefulArt 1 month ago
@BladefulArt Thank you!
Latin1917 1 month ago
i didnt say very excited i said excited lol like i said open your eyes! and if you mean dps as in damage per second then that isnt the best gear lol hc is slow, i guess since you dont have a ccb you wouldnt know you probably have like 67 range or something and you seem pretty inexperienced
MegaBradden 1 month ago
@MegaBradden Hand cannons and crossbows have the same attack speed on rapid. They both have an attack speed of one attack per five game ticks. Oh, and I have 27 million range xp. I'm pretty sure I know how combat works.
Latin1917 1 month ago
shit AND you were using blood burst to heal even more so that isnt an even fight.
MegaBradden 1 month ago
@MegaBradden Last time I checked, Miasmic Barrage is still considered to be a mage spell, therefore, if I have the money to use it, why shouldn't it? If it gives me an edge over rangers, then I WILL use it.
Hand cannons offer the best DPS out of any range weapon because of they're massive range strength bonus. Do you really think that if he used a spectral spirit shield, he would make me use 6 3/4 more saradomin brews? No, he wouldn't. I would still win. With ease.
Latin1917 1 month ago
@Latin1917 just cause its a mage spell doesnt mean its "fair" you guys should both be attacking at your max speed otherwise the fight shouldnt count for anything. and i guarentee you if he had ccb, since your using a chaotic weapon, and ccb is better to begin with with like dbolts(e) he would rock your ass and probably would have used like 1 brew. you are retarded if you cant see the fight was unfair
MegaBradden 1 month ago
@MegaBradden You're retarted if you seriously think he would end up using only one brew. Here's the answer: antifire potion.
What exactly makes it unfair? The spell exists for a reason, which is to be used to increase your chance of winning. And what exactly does attack speed have to do with me using Blood Barrage and Miasmic Barrage? You're not making any sense.
Latin1917 1 month ago
@Latin1917 miasmic barrage makes the other person attack at half their normal speed incase you didnt know that since you might be new to the game i guess.
MegaBradden 1 month ago
@MegaBradden There is a difference between simply wanting to share a video and getting very exited over something. The fight isn't unfair, we're both in the best DPS equipment for the respective class.
But by any means, if you think you can do any better than my friend, then we can duel :) It won't change a thing.
Latin1917 1 month ago
@MegaBradden Please quote me where I'm "all exited" over winning the duel. I knew I would win. Range sucks too much to beat a maxed mage.
Lastly, I wasn't using Blood Burst. It's called Blood Barrage. Get your facts right. And again, Blood Barrage is a mage spell, so I will use it. If it increases my chances of winning, then I will use it. derp
Latin1917 1 month ago
@Latin1917 lol you were excited enough to post a video.. obviously it is a mage spell idiot ass if you could open your fuckin eyes you will see i said it is an unfair fight because he isnt able to heal as well, your ass was too excited about winning to see what was really going on+ ccb is way better than hc
MegaBradden 1 month ago
Yo since your over here callin jumpjumpnow an idiot lemme tell you that your an idiot. 1, you were using zuriels which made him attack at halfspeed, 2 his ass was using a hc and not a ccb or even a rune cb which wouldve made a huge difference. so YOUR the idiot getting all excited over winning
MegaBradden 1 month ago
If he used eek and ccb with d bolts mager would've been rapped.
testfungshaw 3 months ago
different story if he was using a cb/ccb instead of handcannon >.>
wagwanfatty 3 months ago
y didnt he have a spectral + ccb, would of made it fair
LuisAiPh 3 months ago
Vengeance?
baz00mmmmmmm 3 months ago
And also, you can't use zuriels if he isn't using morrigans or its rigged test
JumpJumpnow 4 months ago
Fine, supply my friend with enough javelins for a whole fight (they're 100k ish each I think) and we'll redo the fight. You must me a complete idiot if you think the javelins would make a lot of difference. They can be farcasted, and the special attack is pretty useless when I use the leech special attack curse. I still had 6 3/4 brews left after my friend died. Two special attacks won't make use that many more brews. I'll still win. Magic wins, range loses.
Latin1917 4 months ago
@Latin1917 If he leeches spec to it does nothing i think? I know mage would still win. But farcasting is as usefull as far ranging with sighted bow(Not usefull att all) Especially if using sagiage
JumpJumpnow 4 months ago
if u had a zaryte bow you would attacked faster and i think it hits more than handcannon, but it the handcannon has a spec soo idk :/
sasasa966 4 months ago
@sasasa966 Hand cannon is the same speed, and has a higher damage rate. Its only downside is that it explodes, which is annoying.
Pip6465 4 months ago
By the way, it still shows that magic is the dominant combat style. But it's just way too expensive to be taken as a serious style to fight with all time. Melee/range does fine in rune/black d'hide, but mage pretty much needs a sol, arcane stream, ahrims at the very least, not to mention the rune costs. A zuriels staff is a MUST when fighting a ranger, or you're simply getting raped. Not your average welfare gear, considering it's going against black dhide :)
Religu 5 months ago
@Religu Magic is dirt cheap these days. Fire surge is less than 500 GP per. Ice barrage is around 1,400 per. SoL cuts those further. As for PvP risk, mages do NOT need that. We have tested standard "welfare" PKing equipment many times. Black d'hide with rapier easily loses to mystic and ancient staff, without farcasting. ASN would be protected item. Zuriel staff is NOT a must when fighting a ranger, we have done it without it, but it does make it significantly harder without miasmic.
pip646 5 months ago
I agree with you that the farcasting "might" work, but a handcannon just isn't the best ranged weapon. Have you thought of a zaryte bow? Dunno really. The mage is defo in max gear, but the ranger isn't imo...
Also the crossbow beats the cannon in speed, and I'd expect to see at LEAST specs with morr javs. It's just not fair if the mage is in max gear while the ranger is it, you get that?
Religu 5 months ago
@Religu Of course we have considered the zaryte bow. I think it's a good option because the consistency of it would be tough for the mage, but the fact remains that the cannon has a slightly higher DPS average. Crossbow does NOT beat cannon in speed. They are both 3 seconds. As is clearly seen in this video, the mage has loads of healing left at the end. 2 or maybe 4 morrrigan javelin specials do NOT equal 7 more brews used in any way at all.
pip646 5 months ago
The divine cuts off the mage's attack, but not the rangers. You say you want to make it realistic. Ok, pvp weps are indeed expensive. But what mage is going to farcast and stand exactly 10 squares away? Seems like a hard job. The ranger would simply switch to sagaie and there you go, on the long range ;)
It just doesn't sound right that the mage uses pvp while the ranger does. In a real situation you wouldn't run around with such gear either ;)
Religu 5 months ago
@Religu Doesn't change that the divine is still a better benefit for the mage than ranger. Farcasting is not that difficult once you get used to it, I might make a video on how to do it easily sometime. Sagaies are weak, they could never force a mage to eat. Blood barrage and SS would be plenty against those. (Yes, we have tested it.) All that PvP equipment is, is more money. How is the staff different from more runes? It's ALL just money. Difference is ranger would have to spend 10x more.
pip646 5 months ago
He simply misses pvp weapons. If he'd use javelins he'd have range and power of the cannon (with a much better spec) and the speed and the shield of the chaotic crossbow. It just makes no sense that you use pvp gear and he doesn't ;)
Religu 6 months ago
@Religu Like I already said to another guy, using morrigan weapons is insanely expensive. An entire fight of throwing javelins is 45k per 3.6 seconds and axes are 33k per 3 seconds. 520 second fight, is 6.5m with javelins or 5.7m with axes. Have fun with that. I seriously doubt it would make range win, but even if it did, with that kind of insane cost per fight, range isn't REALLY winning. He's getting screwed either way.
pip646 5 months ago
So the mage uses pvp weapons and the ranger does not. Not to mention the ranger misses a divine/ccb/dbolts.. Offcourse you win. If he had pvp weapons too with a divine or maybe even spectral you wouldn't win :P
Religu 6 months ago
@Religu Yeah, the ranger could have used a divine with a one handed weapon. As any idiot should be able to see, the mage can too though. In fact, the usage of divines benefits magic MORE. Each having 30% reduction, means a much longer fight, meaning much more time for the mage's blood barrage to come into play. If the ranger uses CCB, the mage will simply farcast him, seriously cutting his DPS. At this point the ranger could either sit and take it, or switch weapons, and lose divine effect.
pip646 5 months ago
@pip646
Loool at mage farcasting, range can far range mage with sighted bow lawl
JumpJumpnow 4 months ago
@JumpJumpnow And you seriously think a sighted longbow is going to do any damage at all? It's slow, it's weak and even worse when under the effect of Miasmic and the curse Leech Ranged. Not to mention it's 2 handed, lowering your mage defence.
Latin1917 4 months ago
@Latin1917 Thats about as usefull as farcasting a ranger is
JumpJumpnow 4 months ago
Hand cannon is terrible because you are missing out on 30 Mage defence and range has other methods of hitting from far away. Plus if I'm ranging with such high Mage def I'd love for you to try to be trying to cath a freeze the whole time cuz whenever u cast an ice spell u aren't casting zuriel barrage or blood and the whole time his range be merkin u
FackingV 6 months ago
@FackingV Hand cannon has the highest DPS of all range weapons when you consider farcasting. Remember even if you did break out the oh-so-scary morrigan weapons, I'd farcast them. Those have a very short distance. As you can see in this video, despite my insanely high magic defence, he had VERY good accuracy. 160 something to 190 something is NOT going to make the difference from pretty accurate to splash every time. Use common sense, please. And it isn't "zuriel barrage"...
pip646 5 months ago
The only way to farcast longbow is if you stand EXACTLY 10 away cuz 9 means he can att and 11 means he can move again. Plus if ur trying to farcast his cbow then youll be crying when he pulls sagaies. If he bring bolas ur screwed too cuz he can hide under you like a Mage but u can't spam click with mage
FackingV 6 months ago
@FackingV Farcasting range isn't all that difficult. You get used to going exactly to 10 squares away. And remember, the CROSSBOW (not longbow, those are shit) only can do 9 squares on longrange, which is slower by .6 seconds. In a fight this long, that is 173 shots versus 144. That's a pretty significant difference in total damage, so even if you don't get the perfect 10 square farcast, you still seriously impair the ranger. Oh and sagaies are shit, we have tested them. Hand cannon is better.
pip646 5 months ago
Oh yea and no u won't ve able to farcast vs cbow, once you step out of crossbow's range he can move again duh
FackingV 6 months ago
Rofl now try that Vs Morrigan axes and u will get dropped by the way extra insane damage plus the 30 more Mage def from spectral
FackingV 6 months ago
@FackingV 33k per 3 seconds with an 8 minutes 40 second fight, comes out to 5.7 million lost. If you want to spend that for one fight to beat a mage, be my guest. I'm very skeptical that it would even make range win, but I'm not blowing nearly 6 million on one fight. No one would.
pip646 5 months ago
he would have had a better chance using eek and ccb
kosesnop 6 months ago
@kosesnop "Note: I'm aware my friend could have a used a chaotic crossbow and spectral spirit shield, but keep in mind that I can farcast that. My accuracy would be lower, yes, but my friend wouldn't be able to attack back for a large part of the fight. Besides, the hand cannon does more DPS than a chaotic crossbow."
Latin1917 6 months ago
@Latin1917 you didn't ice barrage, spectral and ccb would be better and u would never win if you didnt use zuriels. just sayen m8
kosesnop 6 months ago
@kosesnop I didn't use Ice Barrage because I knew he was using a hand cannon. I would bring Ice Barrage for other fights, which means a ranger using a crossbow wouldn't be able to attack half of the time. He wouldn't win when he's under the effect of Miasmic and unable to attack back while I use Blood Barrage to heal myself from any damage.
I probably wouldn't win without Miasmic, no. But here's the thing: I can use it, and so I will. It's a mage spell and I will use it if it makes me win.
Latin1917 6 months ago
Im just saying correct me if im wrong but shouldnt he have used avas device to make his range attack alot better?
charlesandjulien 6 months ago
@charlesandjulien Ava's alerter only gives 5 range attack bonus. His range attack is already 202 in this video. A mere 5 points extra is around 2,47% extra accuracy. So no, I wouldn't say it's worth it. The fire cape offers more magic defence, which you really need against a mage wearing virtus.
Latin1917 6 months ago
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gullfunn 7 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Pip should have used a Chaotic Crossbow, Dragon/Diamond bolts (e), and a HC as a spec weapon/anti-farcasting method.
It really does show how underpowered Range is though.
SkylerHanks 7 months ago
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SkylerHanks 7 months ago
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"Note: I'm aware my friend could have a used a chaotic crossbow and spectral spirit shield, but keep in mind that I can farcast that. My accuracy would be lower, yes, but my friend wouldn't be able to attack back for a large part of the fight. Besides, the hand cannon does more DPS than a chaotic crossbow."
Omfg, he could far-range you with Sighted mage long bow, it hits from 13 squares!!!!!
JumpJumpnow 7 months ago
Might be a bit boring, but atleast people can see it for themselves now. People are so damn stubborn that it doesn't really matter though. They will continue to insist that it's somehow inefficient, underpowered, etc. About this vid for example-they'd cry about you using Pvp gear (miasmic) while Pip didn't-even though it wouldn't have made any difference at all.
BladefulArt 7 months ago
Wow, that is boring. Is there any point to me uploading the other duels? I mean, if I get my ass kicked ranging in pernix, is anyone really going to doubt that I also got owned meleeing in pernix? I say screw it.
Oh and by the way, only reason you won was because you had imbued rings and I didn't. Unfair advantage.
Pip6465 7 months ago
@Pip6465 You can't expect everyone to use their common sense like we do. I'm pretty sure there's still a lot of people who think you would win if you used a chaotic rapier, spectral spirit shield and dragon claws.
Please do upload the video. I'm curious.
Latin1917 7 months ago
@Latin1917
This did prove this for me, but you shouldn't use miasmic unless he is using morrigans, and i think spectral and ccbow with onyx bolts would have done better than cannon. + he did not venge. Im pretty sure outcome would not have changed but do not say he was using best gear when he was not using it.
It has lower dps but it would have healed himself
JumpJumpnow 7 months ago
@JumpJumpnow You have to stay realitstic. No one is going to attack with Morrigan's weapons for eight minutes straight, especially not now they're so expensive.
Spectral spirit shield and onyx bolts (e) wouldn't do better. I could farcast the crossbow, which would affect my friend's DPS by A LOT. The special effect of the bolts activates rarely and it only heals for 25% of what you hit. It won't really help my friend, since he's missing out on a lot of attack turns if he would use a crossbow.
Latin1917 7 months ago
@Latin1917 And thus miss out on a lot of healing from Soul Split, because he wouldn't be able to attack me! The loss of healing from Soul Split is greater the small amount of healing onyx bolts (e) give you, thus it wouldn't be a great option to use. It's best to use a weapon that can attack a mage from far away, and out of the few weapons that can do this, the hand cannon does the most DPS.
And yeah, he forgot Vengeance. Oh well. I doubt it would've made me eat anything more.
Latin1917 7 months ago
@Latin1917
Yeah, but this is cinda misleading "We're both wearing the best possible equipment for our respective class" Yes venge would have made you eat more, but not by much. Farcasting with mage takes to much setting up to be useful against ranger, you could say that ranger can far(range?) mage with Mage long bow sighted? It hits from 13 squares more usefull?.
Overall im pretty sure mage would have won any way but Saying you were both using best gear is false.
JumpJumpnow 7 months ago
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