Its only the discretionary budget in that chart. That being said the 2010 total budget spends 707 billion on defense and 452 billion on Medicare. Medicare+Medicaid+CHIP costs 732 billion.
I want there to be plenty of defense spending, but not any unnecessary wars. I mean, I'm cool with hunting down Osama, but let's look at why these people are actually pissed off and change that. They don't like U.S. troops in muslim land? Fine, we'll pull our troops out of the middle east as long you leave us and our allies alone.
After the 2008 election,the Tea Party that was founded and grown by LIBERTARIANS (Ron Paul Revolution) died as soon as main stream "conservatives" in media and the GOP permeated it's ranks. It was planned in advance. Therefore,unless we the People unite and demand a restoration in the US by whatever means necessary ,this nation will be utterly dismantled and split among the powers that be. We are witnessing it now.
@USAGymnast I don't think sarah palin speaks spanish, so I would rule that out, but I do know I saw this on the Alex Jones website some time ago..Like I said, it's been a while since I reread the story.
Ahh the PEE Party. Pee for PALIN. Whereas Bush united the pro entitlement christian left with neocons, Palin has united the anti welfare (but pro corporate welfare) christian right with the wilsonian trotskyism of neoconservatism.
And I encourage anyone who watches this to check out the documentary "Why We Fight" about the military budget, etc. If you haven't already seen it. Really fascinating, and you can watch it (posted by the movie's producers, I believe) online for free.
The chart was accurate because it said DISCRETIONARY spending. But wolfv22 is correct that the nondiscretionary spending (social security, medicare, medicaid, etc.) dwarfs the discretionary budget.
I find the chart @4:41 very misleading. Defense is the biggest part of the budget ONLY if you remove the entitlement programs (SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and Unemployment). If you view the entire budget, defense spending comes to about 20%, and entitlement programs count for 53.48% (2009 numbers). As that chart says, its the discretionary part of the budget not the MANDATORY part of the budget. The mandatory part, which excludes defense, accounts for appx. 2/3rds of the spending.
Haha I can't believe Palin actually misinterpreted Buchanan and thought he was saying the "war card" is a good thing, if it's true that he wasn't. And some people still support her?
Despite what you mentioned in the commentary, Iran is a GREAT threat to the United States. I support Sarah Palin's position on Iran and on most issues. Having said that, it was probably a mistake to go into Iraq back in 2003. Iraq was weakened considerably from the Gulf War. I would have preferred the U.S. leave Iraq alone until their nuclear weapons program became a serious threat again. At that time, eliminate it from the air, w/o sending troops on the ground.
your forgeting one thing most of americas budget is entitlments not discresionary, so even if america spent only enough so that actual amies wouldint attck america ie defence you would still need to do more.
It made me sick when republicans supported Obama's surge in Afghanistan. For some reason Republicans love the idea of war. I go to their meetings and ask " how is my liberty protected in Afghanistan"?
This the discussion both democrats and republicans should be having.
If Democrats wanted out of Iraq, they should have patronized him rther than attack him.
WHen they found Saddam they should have said, " great Job George, now let's go home and watch baseball" But no, they all wanted the excuse to funnel billions through war funding. They all belong in jail, and most should be shot.
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Geeze lets cut taxes start another war and balance the budget, I think the repuds need to take some math classes, How the fuck do you pay off the debt W created by cutting your income (TAXES) when the interest rate on the debt increases? Isn't that what got us in debt, More outgoing than coming in, Wars are expensive,
@gritzschke Its back door shenanigans math. Just say you cut taxes, then give those cuts to big business and bleed the people dry. Then when a Liberal comes in who wants to help the people, shell out propaganda about his immigration status and terrorist involvement. I wish I was a Republican so I could have my cake and eat it too.
@pmfith Explain to me what reality have the Democrats "evaded"? You want to talk about false reality and selling a lie to push an agenda, just turn on fox news. Classic Republican, opens mouth/types with nothing but slander and nothing to back it up. Thank you for being a stereotype.
It is time to speak out against every war profiteer. oil, anti-labor, exporting jobs, tax breaks for such, tariffs, war tax on windfall profits, graduated tax on fuel, incentives for green energy and engineering. Jobs through infrastructure.20% of US savings has been stolen, taking it back is not socialism, it is just. If you want promote innovation, tax these MF till their eyes bleed. Give up the patents SOB's.
it's a done deal! the neo-cons have co-opted the tea party right out from under the libertarian base that rallied behind the statesman doctor ron paul.
are these same rational people standing by as the coup you describe unfolds?
sadly, i think the herd mentality has been ingrained to well for a significant portion of the electorate to escape the group think promoted by the two parties in control of the majority
It is time for the republicans to stop destroying the tea party movement and ONLY take part if they abandon their old big government, liberty prohibiting ways. Palin needs to scram.
That's abut the depth of it for Sarah Palin, a card game played at home by regular people. She's not smart enough to be president. I'm voting for Obama again. I would NEVER vote for her. I think she's fun, but I don't want her running around playing president.
Palin's and Tancredo's speeches at the convention were clearly designed to bring the TPM members into the GOP fold. It's heartening to see that the attempted hijacking of the movement is being recognized and resisted; I may not be totally on board with the TPM, but we surely didn't need more cats and mice.
World Peace: If you defend war, then you are wrong. This isn't an opinion, it's a fact. Peace isn't a political concept...it's a moral concept. Those who search for peace, through peaceful means, WILL find it. Those who search for peace, through acts of war, WILL only find war. LASTING peace can not be achieved through war. The brief period between the end of one war and beginning of another war is not peace. When the fear of war is vanquished, then and only then will there be PEACE.
Exactly what I said in a previous post about Sarah Palin.....She is there to mislead and misdirect the momentum of the Conservative movement. It's an attempt at a co-opt.
With defense eating up 50% of the budget, and spending having increased over 33% in the last 9 years, we are paying for the war on terrorism with a national debt that will entirely consume our GDP. At this rate of debt growth we won't have to worry about an attack from Iran because the on-going financial attack from within is destroying America. You soon will not have enough money, or debt available, to pay for any more weapons for our defense, or new wars to raise the popularity of Presidents.
No matter what our defense spending is, it has many variables. The costs for it can go up in war time, and down in times of peace.
Entitlements on the other hand are growing at a pace that will dwarf the defense spending within the next 30 years.
Its is growing so fast that we will have will have to cut our defense spending to fully fund entitlements. Or we borrow more money, to pay for the increasing costs for entitlements as well as other discretionary and mandatory spendings'.
Sarah Palin has NO connection to the Tea Parties. The "National Tea Party Convention" is a creation of the National Republican Pary, and has NO connection to the Tea Parties around the nation.
Sarah Palin's problem is that she's wedded to AIPAC, which is a foreign entity devoted to channeling American resources towards Israel. She should be wedded to American interests instead and adopt every plank that Ron Paul promotes.
SA, your problem with the pie chart that you use is that it doesn't show how much of the National Defence slice is devoted to foreign wars. For all we know from your pie, 99% of the National Defense portion might just be costs associated with having a military in the first place. If so, then ending foreign wars wouldn't help all that much as far as the national budget goes.
Conservatives are a joke; Constitution-tards wailing about liberals voting for Bush Republicans are nearly always FOX news idiot-boxers. 100% correlation.
SA has some good commentary, but just that he has to even bother with Sarah Barbie Doll proves how pathetic and servile the "conservative" and "libertarian" faction of white southerners are.
Face it - your precious white conservatives in Dixie are deluded morons watching the tee-vee and thinking it's real. Dixie is a JOKE lulz.
@CarryANationIII, Many of us in Dixie are not conservatives at all. There is nothing I want to conservate about the USA - I want to see it abolished or secede from it as soon as possible before it kills more people around the world with the money it steals from me. I think the greatest force of evil on this planet is the NY-DC power structure and it's time it was shattered.
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RedShirtArmy, get to it, let me know. When I look at Dixie all I see are fat fag Zionist preachers like Hagee jiggling around telling us how we have to attack of "Israel's" enemies or his Jew neo-con partners. Oops, am I allowed to say that - I might have offended some fat Dixie-fag Zionist so-called "Christian" who likes killing sand niggers - sorry, niggaz - for Jews.
SA should censor this comment, you know, to maintain "respectability."
I didn't say "racist" because your comments aren't; try NOT putting words in my mouth, since your own words present problems aplenty for your own. "Ignorance" refers to your reliance on vague generalizations, insults, racial stereotypes, etc. I could not care less whether you agree with me or not. Logic: Learn it! Or spare yourself the trouble: Just go die. You'll do the world a favor by ending your own life, garbage-upon-sticks that you are.
Great idea, Rebel! Let's get into a THIRD war since the first two have gone so well. "Conservatives" like you will bankrupt us almost as fast as liberals will.
Neo-Cons want to take over the Tea Party just as they took over the Republican Party and any other 3rd party. We need to take back the Republican Party or we will loose a 3rd 4th 5th party.
Wow--seeing that pie chart of defense spending vs. all other budgetary spending, it gives me pause. Everybody says that bringing home the troops would mean more job losses (troops do get paid for their work), but with so much imperial overreaching, we could probably cut that defense budget down by 30% or more by simply paying our troops to stay home and do nothing. At least then we wouldn't have to build bases, exacerbate insurgencies, or encounter the traumas that lead to PTSD. It's simple!
Congratulations.. I have a question though. Why reduce it just by 30%? It could be done more... It takes a few hundred dollars per citizen to arm him enough to make the "America" impossible to takeover by any power around the world..EVER! Those few hundred dollars per person are spent every year on the "defense" expenditure.. year after year.. and without the same kind of safety.
Yeah, but our military-industrial complex will never be stopped until the US is bankrupt; however, since neither Bush nor Obama got congressional consent for their wars, it would be perfectly within a president's right to bench his own military. Congress can't order the military to disobey its superiors without impeaching him, so at the very least we'd have an immediate withdrawal until his eventual replacement by a military-congressional-industrial complex-approved puppet.
In the long run, Obama is doing the people living in the US a big favor. Thank God Ron Paul did not win.. He might have postponed the decline of the American empire. Allowing rebuilding of the economic base - which would mean the rest of the world will actually have no chance to even resist when the MIC takes control back after RP's time is over.
It would have been like healing a dying sociopath. You want to cure the sociopathy first...
Unfortunately, it will be the general population that suffers, and unlike the Great Depression we will not be able to go to war to get out of our economic morass; indeed, since warfare/welfare IS the morass, it seems more likely that the US will suffer in silence until the great debt default. I'm with the forecasters who name 2012 as the default date--the year the dollar bubble pops and a run on US Treasury debt decimates the buying power of our useless greenbacks.
"we will not be able to go to war to get out of our economic morass"
What is that supposed to mean?
Yes, the greenback will loose its buying power. Its not really a concern though. People who know this will arm themselves and work in a no-dollar time.
Where will they get the resources to do this work? If the dollar has no buying power, like the Zimbabwean currency did just a year ago when it defaulted, the state becomes an economic dead zone--no business will be willing to trade raw materials (oil, steel, foodstuffs) for worthless paper; no government will buy bonds whose value lessens by the minute. State-run war will not help us this time; only competitive currencies backed by gold, silver, and other precious metals.
"the state becomes an economic dead zone--no business will be willing to trade raw materials (oil, steel, foodstuffs) for worthless paper;"
I know it might sound hard to believe - but failure of the state (or its currency) does not mean failure of business, trade or commerce. If anything this will be a golden opportunity to actually dump the fiat currency and move to competing currencies based on various commodities. The war will go away on its own.
I'm not so optimistic--it's not a stretch to say that if the American government defaults, the global economy will be shattered beyond repair. Look at how much damage was done internationally in 2008--and that was just one sector of the US market! No, the US will be a nation of nationalized zombie-businesses before they default on their currency; like so many before them, US politicians will prolong past mistakes for decades, if they can. Expect a 50 year war, at least! (only 41 to go...)
I am not saying people will not feel the brunt of the US currency collapse.. In a sense I am not being optimistic or pessimistic on this one. I just know economic functioning enough to realize that this is not as bad as many people claim it will be. Try to abandon nationalistic thought.. Try not to think of businesses as "US businesses" - businesses are just businesses.
Whenever the govt buys up controlling interest in a business, there effectively isn't any difference between them and the govt. Already most major domestic businesses have sweetheart contracts with the govt without which they would be bankrupt: big oil, big pharma, big agro, etc. If the US govt loses control of the currency value, we'll be lost--businesses can't sell and we can't buy, a perfect storm of govt intervention. Ironically, small businesses may survive and even thrive!
There is evidence of this in the newly-restructuring Zimbabwe--racially motivated land grants ruined the country's economy and hyperinflation made it impossible to buy goods. The country defaulted and the currency was tossed out (fortunately, Zimbabwe is not too developed so many folk could still practice barter), and now businesses are coming back because new deregulated markets and open land purchasing structures have turned the country around. A best-case scenario, one the US may not see.
Possible.. Also Zimbabwe did not hold the world reserve currency in their grip. which means the US will collapse from a farther height. Still, the fall will be hard, and how much people suffer depends on how fast they resort to bartering.
@utubehayter The worst part will be how the rest of the world reacts if the currency devalues rapidly--ObamaCo and the Left has been wanting us all to be part of an international community for decades now, but they don't realize we're already intimately connected to our many economic partners across the globe. American currency devaluation could change the political fates of half the countries on the globe, if not the whole damn thing. The African Union as the next world power??
There have been a lot of promising things happening in africa. African union is a UN like farce, it wont last without US foreign aid. there is a good chance that somalia and botswana will be two major powers in the future owing to largely accidentally liberal policies. Although, there are many events, decisions etc. between then and now.. so uncertainty is large.
China and Japan might go thru major upheveal.. but could still remain a major power.
@utubehayter I dunno--China already drank the Dollar Kool-Aid, so if the dollar devalues they'll have to transfer their holdings at a loss and face US loan defaults at the same time. Japan's had over a decade of zombie businesses, even in the tech industry, while newcomers like India, Malaysia, and even Saudi Arabia are making economic inroads on their territory. Somalia, Zimbabwe, Botswana and others are promising investment areas, so let's hope they capitalize on it and save all our asses!
@milesbennettdyson The trick is .. how many people do not trust their governments. People in China will say what the govts want them to - but internally they know the govt is stupid and evil. Ironically the same stupid evil govt is asking them to save partly in commodities. To be sure they already are. There is also hope in Malaysia.. and Indonesia where people are switching over to islamic gold and silver currency already. Somalia is a corruption free country ...hehe no govt to bribe!
And how come Palin's supporters don't question why she's endorsing Texas Governor Rick Perry (who proposed the Trans-Texas Corridor, a $145+ billion-dollar project and would be built by Cintra, a Spanish-owned company) instead of endorsing the Tea Party Candidate for Texas Governor....DEBRA MEDINA?! I guess the answer is because Sarah Palin's supporters are as brainless as she is.
Defense is the majority of "discretionary spending," but Social Security and Medicare cost about twice as much as National Defense. They are killing us! Still, this video makes a good point. I don't think Sarah's as dumb as some make her out to be, but there's very little substance to what she says. She just spouts Republican talking points about God, guns, and the Constitution. Nonetheless, I was happy to see Sarah offered her support to Rand Paul, but I am suspicious of her motives.
It's not about smarts. Hell, even 'W' was smart enough to fly a plane.
Palin has a team of "groomers" to make sure she is well-rehearsed in talking points designed to steer Conservatives over to the non-Conservative, NeoCon, Israel-First war agenda. Remember, she was a bobblehead for the corporate media, so presumably she has lots of "smarts" when it comes to reading scripts.
Check the web for:
"How a Top U.S. Zionist Picked Sarah Palin for Vice President"
Palin and her ideology is more of the same old disastrous neo-con / religious right group think that has been every bit as destructive to this nation as the big government socialism.
And you will notice that both of those are fundamentally at odds with the constitution.
So really this all comes back to the constitution. Neo-con's and neo-liberals both don't care about it at all.
The pie chart you show in the video is of discretionary spending of federal budget. Please find the overall federal budget pie chart to be intellectually honest.
Excellent video! When will the Tea Party people realize that Sarah Palin is just another big government, big spending neo-Con. Although I must say I enjoyed watching her kiss Rand Paul's ass by endorsing him and donating him money. But hopefully my fellow Ron Paul supporters are intelligent enough not to give her any support in return. She's just trying to win us over, and that's NOT going to happen. We're not for sale, neither are our Libertarian/Conservative principles!
Indeed. I like Sarah Palin - she's a good person. However...
Who is advising her on foreign policy??! How on Earth can anyone think that all this warfare is sustainable? America is 12 TRILLION in debt!
Maybe they all know something the rest of us don't know, but one thing is for sure - all this military adventurism in Iraq and Afghanistan didn't stop the underwear bomber or Fort Hood.
Why does one party believe in warfare and the other welfare? Couldn't one party get it right...
It's kind of funny though, because the Reichstag fire -- commonly regarded as the archtypical "false flag" event -- actually has no evidence linking Adolf or the Nazis to it.
The myth relies solely on "confessions" made by characters with names such as Heines and Ernst; along with allegations made by Communists.
None of these can be taken seriously enough to implicate anyone. In fact, Heines was proved to have been somewhere else when it happened.
Sarah Palin is a thinly disguised Trojan Horse. Her mission is to subvert the Tea Party movement and shepherd its supporters back into the big government and all-war-all-the-time Republican camp.
Sarah Palin is a neocon. If the folks who are paying around $500 to attend the Republican love fest in Nashville cannot see this, they are about as clueless as Sarah who would be a babe lost in the woods without her Republican and neocon handlers and speech writers (and Facebook scribblers).
One of the most worrisome results of a nationalized, centralized tea party movement is indeed the emergence of lightweights like Palin as de facto leaders.
A serious cost-benefit analysis of our endless wars is exactly what the nation needs. Excellent as always, Jack.
I gave up on the Tea Party a while back. The convention only underscored why the GOP has learned NOTHING from the previous administration's fiscal disaster; most "conservatives" *are* neocons, pure and simple. The Democrats are hopeless, of course. Both parties LOVE big government. As health care expenses continue to grow exponentially and our imperial delusions multiply along with those, we will go completely broke, no matter what "reform" gets trotted out. It was a not-so-long-time coming.
I think it up to us to educate the conservatives of there neocon ways. I think a great deal of them, have never heard of Russell Kirk, Robert Taft or understand a humble foreign policy.
By the way I gave up on the tea party movement when Sean "The Hack" Hannity attached himself to it like a leech.
Good points, golong. I think you're right: It's on us to educate. I think the SA does a great job of that. I try to do so gently when I encounter the typical Republican, too. But many just want war and don't seem to think it costs us anything to invade the world.
It's a shame the tea party movement is for the most part not against the wars and our huge military budget. If they were to somehow change that and field a good candidate who represented those views they would bring a new paradigm to american politics, one that would be a step forward.
people in Iran must laugh when they hear someone like Palin describe their country as a threat to the US, it's laughable to think Iran could ever be a threat to the US . I
When you hear Palin talk about foreign policy you can literally see the cogs moving in her head as she tries to remember what she's been told to say by the weekly standard's crowd of trotskyite neo-cons .
LOL, she is a dummy, but the Iranian politicians know the game. Just get the owned media to hype a popular politician so the power elite can keep control. It explains all the ignoramuses Americans elect, and the phonies elected in all countries.
I was once standing near Palin when she brushed her hair back from her ear. There, barely visible from the depths of her ear canal, were the cogs. I didn't see them literally moving but she didn't appear to be thinking at the time.
I guess the only thing an American who believes in the Constitution and its Bill of Rights can do at the present time is prepare for the collapse of the dollar, and watch other Americans who disregarded the sacred document be swept away.
isnt it interesting how these so called "conservatives" who are staunch pro-lifers yet seem to have no respect for people who are already out of the womb. as far as defending our nation, it seems pretty difficult to do that well when most of our soldiers are spread out all around the world. go SA go
Palin flew straight from her Tea Party address to Texas, to spit in the face of Tea Party candidate Debra Medina, and to support big-government governor Rick Perry.
@PressForFreedom I know it's kinda sad. Because now everyone is just happy to congregate with fellow Obama/Liberal Haters that they don't even realize that they are being used to promote neo conservatism.
It pisses me off that the RINO's/neocon repubs have hijacked the tea party movement! PLEASE SPREAD THE MESSAGE IT WAS RON PAUL'S TEA PARTY; PERHAPS SOME CREDIT CAN ALSO BE GIVEN TO THE TRADER RICK SANTELLI FOR HELPING IT ALONG; BUT NO WHERE WAS "PALIN" OR MCCAIN SUPPORTERS EVER PART OF THE REAL TEA PARTY MOVEMENT!
Hey NeoCons (The Same NeoCons who Bashed Ron Paul the Real Reason for the Modern Tea Party) we did NOT expect to see the former "Republican" VP Candidate of 2008 (who "LOST"), or the former "Republican" Alaskan Governor (who "QUIT"), or the "Republican" politician who can see Russia from her house (Hee, hee)... Hmmm, wait a minute. These three people are ALL the same one person and that's Sarah Palin.
The Tea Party movement wasn't started by or belongs to neo-cons. It belongs to those that fight for it and keep themselves invested in what's going on.
@conspiracy777 And what Obama doesn't realize is that the hate for him will not go away. If he dropped Nuclear war heads on Iran and Pakistan it woudn't improve his ratings with those who hammer him the most.
'Defense' around the world should be a responsibility shared among all decent Nations in a region so as to reduce the 'defense spending' costs to each Nation.
Effective military defensive action against aggression should be organized in each region. Sort of an 'Aegis Group' in each region. Not to serve interests of Predatory Corporations and money-lending organizations.
U.S. Defense spending can be significantly reduced. We need a good, detailed Budget Analysis & Reduction Recommendations.
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A powerful military is a MUST, money well spent.
Governments have always had militaries, government hand outs to individuals and Big companies undermines what America is all about. Freedom is tough but for those of us willing to fight and work for it, it's worth it.
@Doggorunning No one here is saying that the US shouldn't have a military, juts that our government officials should cease with the foreign wars and bombings (of innocent civilians), it is too expensive. Spending on a strong military for defensive purposes is a fine thing, spending far more for a powerful offensive military is not.
You know, I seem to recall the Australians and the US beginning a scram jet program at one point. The Australians spent one million dollars. We spent twenty one million dollars. We eventually scraped ours and
@1:17
Notice the PROTESTER holding a sign that reads "Protester = Terrorist" at a PROTEST! How thick headed can you be??
bigfilmhat 3 months ago
remind me which party is about raising the average American family's standard of living. What year were they successful at it?
rucktup 8 months ago
It's important to note that the chart at 1:40 is just plain wrong.
Defence is 20% of the budget. The US spends more on Medicare than defence.
LibertyDownUnder 9 months ago
@LibertyDownUnder
Its only the discretionary budget in that chart. That being said the 2010 total budget spends 707 billion on defense and 452 billion on Medicare. Medicare+Medicaid+CHIP costs 732 billion.
RonDukeSilverSwanson 8 months ago
I want there to be plenty of defense spending, but not any unnecessary wars. I mean, I'm cool with hunting down Osama, but let's look at why these people are actually pissed off and change that. They don't like U.S. troops in muslim land? Fine, we'll pull our troops out of the middle east as long you leave us and our allies alone.
xtremejohnny69 9 months ago
1:07 Tea Partiers denounced Medicare growth? LOL
therealaj123 9 months ago
After the 2008 election,the Tea Party that was founded and grown by LIBERTARIANS (Ron Paul Revolution) died as soon as main stream "conservatives" in media and the GOP permeated it's ranks. It was planned in advance. Therefore,unless we the People unite and demand a restoration in the US by whatever means necessary ,this nation will be utterly dismantled and split among the powers that be. We are witnessing it now.
ModernPatriotsUnited 10 months ago
@USAGymnast I'll keep looking for that clip..Just get back to me a little later, and I should have it by then.
TheFeralFury 1 year ago
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@USAGymnast I have a video on my page showing the quote in it if you are interested in viewing it.
TheFeralFury 1 year ago
@USAGymnast I don't think sarah palin speaks spanish, so I would rule that out, but I do know I saw this on the Alex Jones website some time ago..Like I said, it's been a while since I reread the story.
TheFeralFury 1 year ago
@USAGymnast On univision..I forget the name of the program she was on.
TheFeralFury 1 year ago
At least a voice I can agree with. We have been Teo-O-Conned
MrMotihips 1 year ago 3
Ahh the PEE Party. Pee for PALIN. Whereas Bush united the pro entitlement christian left with neocons, Palin has united the anti welfare (but pro corporate welfare) christian right with the wilsonian trotskyism of neoconservatism.
mongoose704 1 year ago 3
Palin really is an idiot. Who invited her to the party?
rtgoodson 1 year ago
Sarah Palin's idiocy is doing more to damage conservatism than Obama ever could.
MrRayumali 1 year ago
OMFG! This guy is the bomb!!!!! I have been waiting for someone like this for years!!
kingofmilwaukee 1 year ago
@kingofmilwaukee
Welcome to the "listenership"! I have been hearing him for 3 years now. And he is moving up the curve as time passes by.
utubehayter 1 year ago
Amen brother! Testify!
And I encourage anyone who watches this to check out the documentary "Why We Fight" about the military budget, etc. If you haven't already seen it. Really fascinating, and you can watch it (posted by the movie's producers, I believe) online for free.
composerdoh 1 year ago
omg you are my new hero - I'm so happy REAL conservatives can see through this woman.
maximuslaurius 1 year ago
The chart was accurate because it said DISCRETIONARY spending. But wolfv22 is correct that the nondiscretionary spending (social security, medicare, medicaid, etc.) dwarfs the discretionary budget.
rwilb2 1 year ago
I find the chart @4:41 very misleading. Defense is the biggest part of the budget ONLY if you remove the entitlement programs (SS, Medicare, Medicaid, and Unemployment). If you view the entire budget, defense spending comes to about 20%, and entitlement programs count for 53.48% (2009 numbers). As that chart says, its the discretionary part of the budget not the MANDATORY part of the budget. The mandatory part, which excludes defense, accounts for appx. 2/3rds of the spending.
thej762000 1 year ago
These AIPAC slaves like Palin make me sick. Leave Iran alone and bring the troops home--NOW.
evergreenpotato 2 years ago 28
I have only one question i have yet to see a good answer to. Who Invited Palin?
wolfv22 2 years ago 23
@wolfv22 Why, Fox News, of course! Who else?
composerdoh 1 year ago
Haha I can't believe Palin actually misinterpreted Buchanan and thought he was saying the "war card" is a good thing, if it's true that he wasn't. And some people still support her?
TheNavigateur 2 years ago
lol Sarah is a trojan horse.
valmorgan 2 years ago 6
TEA Party is nothing more than Republican shitbag Dick Armey's wet dream from FREEDOM Works and manipulation of retards.
robertmike57 2 years ago
Despite what you mentioned in the commentary, Iran is a GREAT threat to the United States. I support Sarah Palin's position on Iran and on most issues. Having said that, it was probably a mistake to go into Iraq back in 2003. Iraq was weakened considerably from the Gulf War. I would have preferred the U.S. leave Iraq alone until their nuclear weapons program became a serious threat again. At that time, eliminate it from the air, w/o sending troops on the ground.
ptp44444 2 years ago
your forgeting one thing most of americas budget is entitlments not discresionary, so even if america spent only enough so that actual amies wouldint attck america ie defence you would still need to do more.
zxcvbnmjhgfdsa1 2 years ago
Thanks SA! I had been patiently waiting for your video in regards to Palin wanting to start WW3 and you delivered :P
mlawson84 2 years ago
One of the best videos I seen on youtube on politics
ephor 2 years ago
HOLY COW DUDE THAT WAS GREAT
skullgymequipment 2 years ago
SHE IS A MO-RO-ON
skullgymequipment 2 years ago
It made me sick when republicans supported Obama's surge in Afghanistan. For some reason Republicans love the idea of war. I go to their meetings and ask " how is my liberty protected in Afghanistan"?
hamace 2 years ago 2
It isn't!
Marsharks 2 years ago
This the discussion both democrats and republicans should be having.
If Democrats wanted out of Iraq, they should have patronized him rther than attack him.
WHen they found Saddam they should have said, " great Job George, now let's go home and watch baseball" But no, they all wanted the excuse to funnel billions through war funding. They all belong in jail, and most should be shot.
hamace 2 years ago
Genius!
funtala 2 years ago
Palin is using the tea party for her own agenda. Bottom line: don't vote for anyone who's a republican or democrat....they all SUCK
in5d 2 years ago 4
Agreed, She is as dumb as a box of hammers and is probably being propped up by the liberals to be our leader. so we can look as bad as her.
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barquedust 2 years ago
Sarah is a NeoCon, albeit an attractive one!
AmericanAvenger1 2 years ago
Geeze lets cut taxes start another war and balance the budget, I think the repuds need to take some math classes, How the fuck do you pay off the debt W created by cutting your income (TAXES) when the interest rate on the debt increases? Isn't that what got us in debt, More outgoing than coming in, Wars are expensive,
gritzschke 2 years ago 2
@gritzschke Its back door shenanigans math. Just say you cut taxes, then give those cuts to big business and bleed the people dry. Then when a Liberal comes in who wants to help the people, shell out propaganda about his immigration status and terrorist involvement. I wish I was a Republican so I could have my cake and eat it too.
Prototalos 11 months ago
@Prototalos - To hear a Democrat accuse ANYONE of evading reality and responsiblity is absolutely laughable.
pmfith 10 months ago
@pmfith Explain to me what reality have the Democrats "evaded"? You want to talk about false reality and selling a lie to push an agenda, just turn on fox news. Classic Republican, opens mouth/types with nothing but slander and nothing to back it up. Thank you for being a stereotype.
Prototalos 10 months ago
It is time to speak out against every war profiteer. oil, anti-labor, exporting jobs, tax breaks for such, tariffs, war tax on windfall profits, graduated tax on fuel, incentives for green energy and engineering. Jobs through infrastructure.20% of US savings has been stolen, taking it back is not socialism, it is just. If you want promote innovation, tax these MF till their eyes bleed. Give up the patents SOB's.
Roonskii 2 years ago
If you are against the President during a time of war you are aiding and abiding the enemy.
Don't blame me, I didn't say it first.
Roonskii 2 years ago
SAY IT AIN'T SO JOE!
it's a done deal! the neo-cons have co-opted the tea party right out from under the libertarian base that rallied behind the statesman doctor ron paul.
are these same rational people standing by as the coup you describe unfolds?
sadly, i think the herd mentality has been ingrained to well for a significant portion of the electorate to escape the group think promoted by the two parties in control of the majority
god save the republic!
abolof 2 years ago
It is time for the republicans to stop destroying the tea party movement and ONLY take part if they abandon their old big government, liberty prohibiting ways. Palin needs to scram.
Clausfarre 2 years ago 3
But it anin't no fun thinking of her as president. She should get a job on Saturday Night Live. She can be very funny.
aldenbuzz 2 years ago
That's abut the depth of it for Sarah Palin, a card game played at home by regular people. She's not smart enough to be president. I'm voting for Obama again. I would NEVER vote for her. I think she's fun, but I don't want her running around playing president.
aldenbuzz 2 years ago
GOP = GUNS OIL POVERTY
GOP GOAL: Continue to be IRRELEVANT in National Govt, along with suffering from "severe sore chins" due to excess Tea-Bagging!
"The road to hell is paved with RepubliCONs!" ~Single-Digit IQ Scarah Phalin
mavrek47 2 years ago
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LibertyPulse 2 years ago
Palin's and Tancredo's speeches at the convention were clearly designed to bring the TPM members into the GOP fold. It's heartening to see that the attempted hijacking of the movement is being recognized and resisted; I may not be totally on board with the TPM, but we surely didn't need more cats and mice.
wildpeachatl737 2 years ago
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aeon23 2 years ago
Exactly what I said in a previous post about Sarah Palin.....She is there to mislead and misdirect the momentum of the Conservative movement. It's an attempt at a co-opt.
TheFeralFury 2 years ago 2
Sarah Palin= pro amnesty, and the perpetuation of the status quo.
TheFeralFury 2 years ago 2
With defense eating up 50% of the budget, and spending having increased over 33% in the last 9 years, we are paying for the war on terrorism with a national debt that will entirely consume our GDP. At this rate of debt growth we won't have to worry about an attack from Iran because the on-going financial attack from within is destroying America. You soon will not have enough money, or debt available, to pay for any more weapons for our defense, or new wars to raise the popularity of Presidents.
PragmaticStatistic 2 years ago
No matter what our defense spending is, it has many variables. The costs for it can go up in war time, and down in times of peace.
Entitlements on the other hand are growing at a pace that will dwarf the defense spending within the next 30 years.
Its is growing so fast that we will have will have to cut our defense spending to fully fund entitlements. Or we borrow more money, to pay for the increasing costs for entitlements as well as other discretionary and mandatory spendings'.
Stillahills 2 years ago
Sarah Palin has NO connection to the Tea Parties. The "National Tea Party Convention" is a creation of the National Republican Pary, and has NO connection to the Tea Parties around the nation.
abukamoon 2 years ago
Sarah Palin's problem is that she's wedded to AIPAC, which is a foreign entity devoted to channeling American resources towards Israel. She should be wedded to American interests instead and adopt every plank that Ron Paul promotes.
OutlawTomFantastic 2 years ago
why the f*ck is it either WARfare or WELLfare ...
I propose: NEITHER.
Ron Paul 2008
and Beyond !!
thepcguru55 2 years ago 3
The right wing is imploding.
clinelou 2 years ago
SA, your problem with the pie chart that you use is that it doesn't show how much of the National Defence slice is devoted to foreign wars. For all we know from your pie, 99% of the National Defense portion might just be costs associated with having a military in the first place. If so, then ending foreign wars wouldn't help all that much as far as the national budget goes.
laviciousness 2 years ago
A neo-con in high heel shoes is still a neo-con.
RedShirtArmy 2 years ago 3
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I've wanted to Bomb Iran, since 1979.
& Esp. now! Before they get the BOMB.
I Like Sarah & Will Vote for Her, if She Runs in 2012.
Sarah's a Real American Woman!
Daisy Duke, All Grown Up!
GO Patriots!
LONG LIVE THE REBELLION!
DEO VINDICE!
rebelstang 2 years ago
Conservatives are a joke; Constitution-tards wailing about liberals voting for Bush Republicans are nearly always FOX news idiot-boxers. 100% correlation.
SA has some good commentary, but just that he has to even bother with Sarah Barbie Doll proves how pathetic and servile the "conservative" and "libertarian" faction of white southerners are.
Face it - your precious white conservatives in Dixie are deluded morons watching the tee-vee and thinking it's real. Dixie is a JOKE lulz.
CarryANationIII 2 years ago
@CarryANationIII, Many of us in Dixie are not conservatives at all. There is nothing I want to conservate about the USA - I want to see it abolished or secede from it as soon as possible before it kills more people around the world with the money it steals from me. I think the greatest force of evil on this planet is the NY-DC power structure and it's time it was shattered.
RedShirtArmy 2 years ago 2
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RedShirtArmy, get to it, let me know. When I look at Dixie all I see are fat fag Zionist preachers like Hagee jiggling around telling us how we have to attack of "Israel's" enemies or his Jew neo-con partners. Oops, am I allowed to say that - I might have offended some fat Dixie-fag Zionist so-called "Christian" who likes killing sand niggers - sorry, niggaz - for Jews.
SA should censor this comment, you know, to maintain "respectability."
CarryANationIII 2 years ago
Your comments reveal your obvious antisemitism, hatred and ignorance, Carry. Nothing more.
mohairsammy 2 years ago
You forgot to say "racist"! Also, "ignorance" does not mean "doesn't agree with me." English - learn it!
CarryANationIII 2 years ago
I didn't say "racist" because your comments aren't; try NOT putting words in my mouth, since your own words present problems aplenty for your own. "Ignorance" refers to your reliance on vague generalizations, insults, racial stereotypes, etc. I could not care less whether you agree with me or not. Logic: Learn it! Or spare yourself the trouble: Just go die. You'll do the world a favor by ending your own life, garbage-upon-sticks that you are.
mohairsammy 2 years ago
So, you still don't understand what the term "ignorant" means. Try a dictionary.
CarryANationIII 2 years ago
Great idea, Rebel! Let's get into a THIRD war since the first two have gone so well. "Conservatives" like you will bankrupt us almost as fast as liberals will.
mohairsammy 2 years ago 3
Excellent comments as always, rebelstang!
ptp44444 2 years ago 2
As always the Southern Avenger is spot on! Man I love the very end of this video. That last couple lines is perfect.
ryanthomastew 2 years ago
Neo-Cons want to take over the Tea Party just as they took over the Republican Party and any other 3rd party. We need to take back the Republican Party or we will loose a 3rd 4th 5th party.
tomrdee 2 years ago 2
Well said..
agharta788 2 years ago
Wow--seeing that pie chart of defense spending vs. all other budgetary spending, it gives me pause. Everybody says that bringing home the troops would mean more job losses (troops do get paid for their work), but with so much imperial overreaching, we could probably cut that defense budget down by 30% or more by simply paying our troops to stay home and do nothing. At least then we wouldn't have to build bases, exacerbate insurgencies, or encounter the traumas that lead to PTSD. It's simple!
milesbennettdyson 2 years ago
gainful employment is no excuse for imperialism!
803honda 2 years ago
Congratulations.. I have a question though. Why reduce it just by 30%? It could be done more... It takes a few hundred dollars per citizen to arm him enough to make the "America" impossible to takeover by any power around the world..EVER! Those few hundred dollars per person are spent every year on the "defense" expenditure.. year after year.. and without the same kind of safety.
utubehayter 2 years ago
Yeah, but our military-industrial complex will never be stopped until the US is bankrupt; however, since neither Bush nor Obama got congressional consent for their wars, it would be perfectly within a president's right to bench his own military. Congress can't order the military to disobey its superiors without impeaching him, so at the very least we'd have an immediate withdrawal until his eventual replacement by a military-congressional-industrial complex-approved puppet.
milesbennettdyson 2 years ago
In the long run, Obama is doing the people living in the US a big favor. Thank God Ron Paul did not win.. He might have postponed the decline of the American empire. Allowing rebuilding of the economic base - which would mean the rest of the world will actually have no chance to even resist when the MIC takes control back after RP's time is over.
It would have been like healing a dying sociopath. You want to cure the sociopathy first...
utubehayter 2 years ago
Unfortunately, it will be the general population that suffers, and unlike the Great Depression we will not be able to go to war to get out of our economic morass; indeed, since warfare/welfare IS the morass, it seems more likely that the US will suffer in silence until the great debt default. I'm with the forecasters who name 2012 as the default date--the year the dollar bubble pops and a run on US Treasury debt decimates the buying power of our useless greenbacks.
milesbennettdyson 2 years ago
"we will not be able to go to war to get out of our economic morass"
What is that supposed to mean?
Yes, the greenback will loose its buying power. Its not really a concern though. People who know this will arm themselves and work in a no-dollar time.
utubehayter 2 years ago
Where will they get the resources to do this work? If the dollar has no buying power, like the Zimbabwean currency did just a year ago when it defaulted, the state becomes an economic dead zone--no business will be willing to trade raw materials (oil, steel, foodstuffs) for worthless paper; no government will buy bonds whose value lessens by the minute. State-run war will not help us this time; only competitive currencies backed by gold, silver, and other precious metals.
milesbennettdyson 2 years ago
"the state becomes an economic dead zone--no business will be willing to trade raw materials (oil, steel, foodstuffs) for worthless paper;"
I know it might sound hard to believe - but failure of the state (or its currency) does not mean failure of business, trade or commerce. If anything this will be a golden opportunity to actually dump the fiat currency and move to competing currencies based on various commodities. The war will go away on its own.
utubehayter 2 years ago
I'm not so optimistic--it's not a stretch to say that if the American government defaults, the global economy will be shattered beyond repair. Look at how much damage was done internationally in 2008--and that was just one sector of the US market! No, the US will be a nation of nationalized zombie-businesses before they default on their currency; like so many before them, US politicians will prolong past mistakes for decades, if they can. Expect a 50 year war, at least! (only 41 to go...)
milesbennettdyson 2 years ago
I am not saying people will not feel the brunt of the US currency collapse.. In a sense I am not being optimistic or pessimistic on this one. I just know economic functioning enough to realize that this is not as bad as many people claim it will be. Try to abandon nationalistic thought.. Try not to think of businesses as "US businesses" - businesses are just businesses.
utubehayter 2 years ago
Whenever the govt buys up controlling interest in a business, there effectively isn't any difference between them and the govt. Already most major domestic businesses have sweetheart contracts with the govt without which they would be bankrupt: big oil, big pharma, big agro, etc. If the US govt loses control of the currency value, we'll be lost--businesses can't sell and we can't buy, a perfect storm of govt intervention. Ironically, small businesses may survive and even thrive!
milesbennettdyson 2 years ago
There is evidence of this in the newly-restructuring Zimbabwe--racially motivated land grants ruined the country's economy and hyperinflation made it impossible to buy goods. The country defaulted and the currency was tossed out (fortunately, Zimbabwe is not too developed so many folk could still practice barter), and now businesses are coming back because new deregulated markets and open land purchasing structures have turned the country around. A best-case scenario, one the US may not see.
milesbennettdyson 2 years ago
@milesbennettdyson
Possible.. Also Zimbabwe did not hold the world reserve currency in their grip. which means the US will collapse from a farther height. Still, the fall will be hard, and how much people suffer depends on how fast they resort to bartering.
utubehayter 1 year ago
@utubehayter The worst part will be how the rest of the world reacts if the currency devalues rapidly--ObamaCo and the Left has been wanting us all to be part of an international community for decades now, but they don't realize we're already intimately connected to our many economic partners across the globe. American currency devaluation could change the political fates of half the countries on the globe, if not the whole damn thing. The African Union as the next world power??
milesbennettdyson 1 year ago
@milesbennettdyson
There have been a lot of promising things happening in africa. African union is a UN like farce, it wont last without US foreign aid. there is a good chance that somalia and botswana will be two major powers in the future owing to largely accidentally liberal policies. Although, there are many events, decisions etc. between then and now.. so uncertainty is large.
China and Japan might go thru major upheveal.. but could still remain a major power.
utubehayter 1 year ago
@utubehayter I dunno--China already drank the Dollar Kool-Aid, so if the dollar devalues they'll have to transfer their holdings at a loss and face US loan defaults at the same time. Japan's had over a decade of zombie businesses, even in the tech industry, while newcomers like India, Malaysia, and even Saudi Arabia are making economic inroads on their territory. Somalia, Zimbabwe, Botswana and others are promising investment areas, so let's hope they capitalize on it and save all our asses!
milesbennettdyson 1 year ago
@milesbennettdyson The trick is .. how many people do not trust their governments. People in China will say what the govts want them to - but internally they know the govt is stupid and evil. Ironically the same stupid evil govt is asking them to save partly in commodities. To be sure they already are. There is also hope in Malaysia.. and Indonesia where people are switching over to islamic gold and silver currency already. Somalia is a corruption free country ...hehe no govt to bribe!
utubehayter 1 year ago
@utubehayter LOL! What?
rtgoodson 1 year ago
@rtgoodson
If you had been a bit more descriptive, I could answer your question. But it is too vague to really see what you are wondering about.
utubehayter 1 year ago
Controlled opposition, controlled opposition, controlled opposition What America needs is not a third political party but a second.
MrHappy702 2 years ago 3
And how come Palin's supporters don't question why she's endorsing Texas Governor Rick Perry (who proposed the Trans-Texas Corridor, a $145+ billion-dollar project and would be built by Cintra, a Spanish-owned company) instead of endorsing the Tea Party Candidate for Texas Governor....DEBRA MEDINA?! I guess the answer is because Sarah Palin's supporters are as brainless as she is.
Kras3169 2 years ago 2
Defense is the majority of "discretionary spending," but Social Security and Medicare cost about twice as much as National Defense. They are killing us! Still, this video makes a good point. I don't think Sarah's as dumb as some make her out to be, but there's very little substance to what she says. She just spouts Republican talking points about God, guns, and the Constitution. Nonetheless, I was happy to see Sarah offered her support to Rand Paul, but I am suspicious of her motives.
muridsilat 2 years ago
It's not about smarts. Hell, even 'W' was smart enough to fly a plane.
Palin has a team of "groomers" to make sure she is well-rehearsed in talking points designed to steer Conservatives over to the non-Conservative, NeoCon, Israel-First war agenda. Remember, she was a bobblehead for the corporate media, so presumably she has lots of "smarts" when it comes to reading scripts.
Check the web for:
"How a Top U.S. Zionist Picked Sarah Palin for Vice President"
LibertaerUeberAlles 2 years ago 4
Real constitutional hope and change? What does that even mean? Please explain.
JohnVAce 2 years ago
Palin and her ideology is more of the same old disastrous neo-con / religious right group think that has been every bit as destructive to this nation as the big government socialism.
And you will notice that both of those are fundamentally at odds with the constitution.
So really this all comes back to the constitution. Neo-con's and neo-liberals both don't care about it at all.
kmg501 2 years ago 5
Fuck, I about passed out reading that run on sentence!
da324 2 years ago
Jack,
The pie chart you show in the video is of discretionary spending of federal budget. Please find the overall federal budget pie chart to be intellectually honest.
Sincerely,
Michael
golong87 2 years ago
I did.. and it still looks pretty much the same.
utubehayter 2 years ago
@driftalotapus
The debt Obama has wrought thusfar is LARGER than all debt incurred from 1776-2008.
......I did a video on it.
VonHelton 2 years ago
Excellent video! When will the Tea Party people realize that Sarah Palin is just another big government, big spending neo-Con. Although I must say I enjoyed watching her kiss Rand Paul's ass by endorsing him and donating him money. But hopefully my fellow Ron Paul supporters are intelligent enough not to give her any support in return. She's just trying to win us over, and that's NOT going to happen. We're not for sale, neither are our Libertarian/Conservative principles!
Kras3169 2 years ago 2
Indeed. I like Sarah Palin - she's a good person. However...
Who is advising her on foreign policy??! How on Earth can anyone think that all this warfare is sustainable? America is 12 TRILLION in debt!
Maybe they all know something the rest of us don't know, but one thing is for sure - all this military adventurism in Iraq and Afghanistan didn't stop the underwear bomber or Fort Hood.
Why does one party believe in warfare and the other welfare? Couldn't one party get it right...
perezDeSanFernando 2 years ago
RON PAUL 2012!
GeertAkbar 2 years ago 3
dead on with your analysis
Travinyle1 2 years ago
daniel (on the) pipes is certifiable. palin the co-opting infiltrator of the tea party isn't far behind.
dwayne0t 2 years ago
Police State
Neocon Nazi
Strange Brew
Reichstag 9/11
Bebe le Strange
Homeland Gestapo
Flag on a match head
Celebration Of The Lizard
ryanshaunkelly 2 years ago
It's kind of funny though, because the Reichstag fire -- commonly regarded as the archtypical "false flag" event -- actually has no evidence linking Adolf or the Nazis to it.
The myth relies solely on "confessions" made by characters with names such as Heines and Ernst; along with allegations made by Communists.
None of these can be taken seriously enough to implicate anyone. In fact, Heines was proved to have been somewhere else when it happened.
Regardless, the myth prevailed.
LibertaerUeberAlles 2 years ago
Agree.
(never proven)
ryanshaunkelly 2 years ago
Sarah Palin is a thinly disguised Trojan Horse. Her mission is to subvert the Tea Party movement and shepherd its supporters back into the big government and all-war-all-the-time Republican camp.
Sarah Palin is a neocon. If the folks who are paying around $500 to attend the Republican love fest in Nashville cannot see this, they are about as clueless as Sarah who would be a babe lost in the woods without her Republican and neocon handlers and speech writers (and Facebook scribblers).
yakyakyak69 2 years ago 7
There's not enough Sweet N' Low in the world to make the tea parties amicable.
Ron Paul 2012
whoo689 2 years ago
Once I heard that Palin was speaking at a Tea Party Convention, my thought was "Fuuuuuuuck!"
MagnusIan 2 years ago 4
holy crap what a great video 5/5
collapseofthedollar 2 years ago 2
There's a new word now: TEAOCON
As in Sarah Palin is such a TEACON, a new breed of neo-con.
phchartrand 2 years ago 5
That's *great*! I'm going to have to "borrow" that term, ph! Nicely done! (:=}
mohairsammy 2 years ago
Sara Palin is an establishment politician, nothing more.
In the end regardless of where she gets to if anywhere, she will do as told to do, just like any other puppet. It would.
werebear1 2 years ago 2
If you talked like that on my video I'd block you to, But wait your ignorant post is here.Guess SA didn't remove it. Your point was................
jsh78mang 2 years ago
@driftalotapus sarah palin will fuck you up, retard!
TheEbonicslover 2 years ago
Try to stay on topic.
badtown88 2 years ago
One of the most worrisome results of a nationalized, centralized tea party movement is indeed the emergence of lightweights like Palin as de facto leaders.
A serious cost-benefit analysis of our endless wars is exactly what the nation needs. Excellent as always, Jack.
TulliusVII 2 years ago
I gave up on the Tea Party a while back. The convention only underscored why the GOP has learned NOTHING from the previous administration's fiscal disaster; most "conservatives" *are* neocons, pure and simple. The Democrats are hopeless, of course. Both parties LOVE big government. As health care expenses continue to grow exponentially and our imperial delusions multiply along with those, we will go completely broke, no matter what "reform" gets trotted out. It was a not-so-long-time coming.
mohairsammy 2 years ago 3
I think it up to us to educate the conservatives of there neocon ways. I think a great deal of them, have never heard of Russell Kirk, Robert Taft or understand a humble foreign policy.
By the way I gave up on the tea party movement when Sean "The Hack" Hannity attached himself to it like a leech.
golong87 2 years ago 3
Good points, golong. I think you're right: It's on us to educate. I think the SA does a great job of that. I try to do so gently when I encounter the typical Republican, too. But many just want war and don't seem to think it costs us anything to invade the world.
mohairsammy 2 years ago
Patrick Henry made his famous stand for liberty on March 23 1775, now it's Rand's turn with his next moneybomb !
Pledge at winrandwin(.)com
phchartrand 2 years ago
It's a shame the tea party movement is for the most part not against the wars and our huge military budget. If they were to somehow change that and field a good candidate who represented those views they would bring a new paradigm to american politics, one that would be a step forward.
jackson32 2 years ago
Ron Paul DUH!!
jsh78mang 2 years ago 2
agreed!
jackson32 2 years ago
Same old stuff. I can't say I'm surprised.
chewbaca1989 2 years ago
people in Iran must laugh when they hear someone like Palin describe their country as a threat to the US, it's laughable to think Iran could ever be a threat to the US . I
When you hear Palin talk about foreign policy you can literally see the cogs moving in her head as she tries to remember what she's been told to say by the weekly standard's crowd of trotskyite neo-cons .
HuxleyWasRight 2 years ago 7
LOL, she is a dummy, but the Iranian politicians know the game. Just get the owned media to hype a popular politician so the power elite can keep control. It explains all the ignoramuses Americans elect, and the phonies elected in all countries.
leafwatch 2 years ago 2
"When you hear Palin talk about foreign policy you can literally see the cogs moving in her head"
You know what 'literally' means right?
jackson32 2 years ago
@jackson32
I was once standing near Palin when she brushed her hair back from her ear. There, barely visible from the depths of her ear canal, were the cogs. I didn't see them literally moving but she didn't appear to be thinking at the time.
RCinPAWA 2 years ago 2
Thanks S.A. - keep telling the truth!
wortguy 2 years ago
I guess the only thing an American who believes in the Constitution and its Bill of Rights can do at the present time is prepare for the collapse of the dollar, and watch other Americans who disregarded the sacred document be swept away.
Tasadaru 2 years ago 2
Palin is crazier than a bed bug and dumber than a fence post. She is an Israel firster.
ucjb2 2 years ago 8
isnt it interesting how these so called "conservatives" who are staunch pro-lifers yet seem to have no respect for people who are already out of the womb. as far as defending our nation, it seems pretty difficult to do that well when most of our soldiers are spread out all around the world. go SA go
Palin is a setup of the worst kind
lezlitaz 2 years ago 4
Palin is a neocon without a clue. If she didn't have a pretty face and a great ass she would still be in obscurity.
ctfam 2 years ago 5
bullets cost money why dont republicans understand thAT
calexrose 2 years ago 2
At least their made in the USA...lol
Doggorunning 2 years ago
Palin flew straight from her Tea Party address to Texas, to spit in the face of Tea Party candidate Debra Medina, and to support big-government governor Rick Perry.
So much for any credibility Palin might have had.
Bound4NH 2 years ago 9
I'm still trying to figure out where she attained any credibility at all.
badtown88 2 years ago 2
@badtown88 She didn't.
arcanekrusader 2 years ago 2
Palin doesn't even know that a president doesn't have the power to declare war. She is a clown.
TheAerialbomb 2 years ago 5
@PressForFreedom I know it's kinda sad. Because now everyone is just happy to congregate with fellow Obama/Liberal Haters that they don't even realize that they are being used to promote neo conservatism.
PoliticalSkeptic 2 years ago 2
It pisses me off that the RINO's/neocon repubs have hijacked the tea party movement! PLEASE SPREAD THE MESSAGE IT WAS RON PAUL'S TEA PARTY; PERHAPS SOME CREDIT CAN ALSO BE GIVEN TO THE TRADER RICK SANTELLI FOR HELPING IT ALONG; BUT NO WHERE WAS "PALIN" OR MCCAIN SUPPORTERS EVER PART OF THE REAL TEA PARTY MOVEMENT!
END the WARS!
the war on terror,
the war on drugs,
the economic war on the middle class!
STOP IT Dammit I want my kid to have a country!
Ron Paul 2012!
s35wf 2 years ago 7
i'm all for bombing iran......just as long as we take the warheads off and replace them with real, live neocons!!!!
strapt313 2 years ago 4
Iran may prefer we just use the wareheads rather than peppering them with neocons.
pfarabee 2 years ago 3
Hey NeoCons (The Same NeoCons who Bashed Ron Paul the Real Reason for the Modern Tea Party) we did NOT expect to see the former "Republican" VP Candidate of 2008 (who "LOST"), or the former "Republican" Alaskan Governor (who "QUIT"), or the "Republican" politician who can see Russia from her house (Hee, hee)... Hmmm, wait a minute. These three people are ALL the same one person and that's Sarah Palin.
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@PressForFreedom
The Tea Party movement wasn't started by or belongs to neo-cons. It belongs to those that fight for it and keep themselves invested in what's going on.
kmg501 2 years ago
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kmg501 2 years ago
We Ron Paul supporters were running **agents** Palin. She and them have always been trying to "get rid" of us.
wcarlpdrysdale 2 years ago
It's annoying because Ron Paul held the first tea party and some war drum beating neocons are trying to steal it.
n66178 2 years ago 6
Gates just made a speech yesterday about getting a coalition against Iran to "negotiate" their nuclear program.
The war machine keeps on rolling and Obama is realizing that the PERCEPTION of being tough is something that will win him points with the voters.
I think people are starting to wise up to this constant beating of the war drums.
conspiracy777 2 years ago 3
@conspiracy777 And what Obama doesn't realize is that the hate for him will not go away. If he dropped Nuclear war heads on Iran and Pakistan it woudn't improve his ratings with those who hammer him the most.
PoliticalSkeptic 2 years ago 2
'Defense' around the world should be a responsibility shared among all decent Nations in a region so as to reduce the 'defense spending' costs to each Nation.
Effective military defensive action against aggression should be organized in each region. Sort of an 'Aegis Group' in each region. Not to serve interests of Predatory Corporations and money-lending organizations.
U.S. Defense spending can be significantly reduced. We need a good, detailed Budget Analysis & Reduction Recommendations.
ProNorden 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
A powerful military is a MUST, money well spent.
Governments have always had militaries, government hand outs to individuals and Big companies undermines what America is all about. Freedom is tough but for those of us willing to fight and work for it, it's worth it.
Doggorunning 2 years ago
@Doggorunning No one here is saying that the US shouldn't have a military, juts that our government officials should cease with the foreign wars and bombings (of innocent civilians), it is too expensive. Spending on a strong military for defensive purposes is a fine thing, spending far more for a powerful offensive military is not.
tfboyle 2 years ago 3
You know, I seem to recall the Australians and the US beginning a scram jet program at one point. The Australians spent one million dollars. We spent twenty one million dollars. We eventually scraped ours and