@newallthestars100 - George would have been a good choice - he was sort of cute. John, not so much (though he is my second favourite Beatle, after George (Paul's my least favourite)).
@LiveBeat713 - I do know Billy was labelled as female as a child. Identity and biology do not always coincide. I'm male, but the existence of people like Mel Gibson, George W. Bush and Perez Hilton make me reluctant to be a man.
@Timmybear I agree with your view on this matter. I was just checking, because thought this is public knowledge now there's still people who are unaware of this. Thank you for not being one of them.
@LiveBeat713 - and thank YOU. The transphobia/gender rigidity in my community (queer community) has always puzzled and disgusted me. There's a trans-cub (young furry gent) in this town (at least one), and I have no issue with it. 'Goodness knows some folks do. :(
@Timmybear Yeah some people only support diversity and acceptance as much as it takes to ensure they are protected, and I think some gay people feel if they hostile to those who are considered "weirder" than them, then that will normalise them to the general heteronormative body politic, it doesn't work, but it doesn't stop people trying.
The again some people are just bigoted, hateful scum :/
I don't think that putting pictures of dead boys is really accurate to the song. I'm beginning to think that this song is about falling in love with a transvestite. I watched a video where Antony was singing this song to a room of transvestites. So.. I'm thinking that's what it's about. The "dead boy" is figurative for a boy who is no longer a boy.
@naturallyhi3 - You may have a point. The song supports multiple interpretations. Other than, oh, 'Pop Goes The Weasel', though, songs are filtered through the listener's brain - there's no such thing as 'this is what the song is about' (I've met people who miss 'the point' of LOLA, but they still enjoy the song...).
@naturallyhi3 its actually about a person who was hiv positive that he fell in love with. theres a video on youtube where he explains this before he sings the song. search something like "I FEEL in love with a dead boy grec" and you should find it. so to me, i agree, that makes this video completely irrevelant to the meaning of the actual song.
@TWard82 - There is no such thing as one meaning to a song. Meaning is in the ear of the listener. Much as with literature, if the text can support the reading, there is no 'right' or 'wrong' take.
There's other boys I'd like to see that are missing, but you know what? It's his video & he's entitled to use boys that mean so much to him. I say "bravo" to that.
@Obox925 - Everyone has an opinion - one of the two things everyone has. We will never be entirely certain how Billy identified, but there seems to be a fair amount of evidence he identified as male.
Wow! Johnny Thunders.. Hadn't thought about him in a long damn time. Really want to get that documentary of Arthur Kane later on in his life. What about Joey Ramone?
why is he so sick ? someone plz explain him to me, I just love his music, but I dont know anything about antony, for example, this song is sick .... SOmeone enlight me plz!!!
Thank you soo much for this brillant contribution. I just can't stop looking at these beautiful boys. I lost my brother 4 months ago. He was a beautiful (but tortured) boy. Thanks again.
I saw antony last night, he sang this song, very beautifully haunting. He writes the best songs because he is a tourterd soul. Most geniuses do ther best work when they are torterd-lennon,van gough-gazza-hitler(even tho he was evil)
Well, that was not entirely unintentional. Some of these people ran right to death with open arms. I don't think The Grim Reaper should be feared, but you needn't make it easy for Him.
Absolutely gorgeous song. Antony is so talented. The words to all of his music are just beautiful. I am so thankful I found Antony & The Johnsons. The music is so beautiful you could cry.
Yeah, they forgot a 'Dead Boy' literally when Stiv Bators wasn't included in this slideshow, and other Cleveland punks in Peter Laughner and Jim Jones of Pere Ubu. 3 Ramones, and Elliott Smith forgotten too. great slideshow and music however. kudos.
Jim Jones was sweet - I remember getting a handwritten note on an order when he thought it had taken too long for him to fulflll it (I was expecting longer, based on the Ubutique caveats). Also sent me a t-shirt.
Yes, Stiv Bators would make sense. Of course, the choices were based on aesthetic responses to appearance, and, other than Joey, I didn't find the Ramones attractive.
As to Laughner - long story there. Meant to include him - put in a wrong picture.
First time I saw Antony live at Cafe Du Nord in San Francisco he did this song and the pause was even longer... and the audience was so quiet... amazing.
Well, it's only a 4 minute song, after all, and it's MY aesthetic tastes. :) Stiv Bators, I didn't mind in Lords of the New Church, musically, but didn't care for his looks much. Brian Jones, sad death, brilliant musician - not cute. I don't know who Bob McBride is. Mitch Mitchell, brilliant musician. I should do a sequel, I think. :)
Well, I don't think him particularly cute, though, if you search for my video of Patty Waters' "Moon Don't Come Up Tonight", there's a picture of him there.
Great song, great video, I especially like that the images of Billy Tipton and Brandon Teena come up just as the "are you a boy or a girl" part is sung. Very moving.
Thank you. I realize the pictures of Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan aren't them at their prettiest (Jerry was absolutely stunning in his youth), but try and find single pictures of them in their heyday!
Just beautiful Tim, many thanks for putting this song up. I listened to the small MP3 snippet on the A&TJ website and that 20 seconds was enough to make me cry. Being able to hear the whole song is such a treasure. Antony truly is an amazing soul.
no!! thank you !!! great video ! and u got the song I have been looking for ages ! Untill I remembered You Tube ! OMG !!! The song of my life ! Thank u so much ! But I must ask u something ...why do u think in the end of the song he asks him if he is boy or a girl ? We all agreed it's a dead boy ! huh ? I dont get that ...
I suppose it's because it's a beautiful boy, and, sadly, the word beautiful isn't attributed to boys very commonly (it's like a boy trying to talk about a boyfriend the same way a girl talks about a girlfriend - with two girls, it could mean like best friends - boys don't get that luxury (well, I do, but, then, I have boyfriends who ARE boyfriends... :) ). Plus, it could be a sly reference back to Miss Antony's own gender ambiguities.
Oh, dear, you are very much right, jolcom - teach me to do things in a hurry. This would seem to be Jimmy Zero from the Dead Boys (which, oddly, almost reflects on an earlier comment made here by a fellow whose own videos are quite disturbing and solicited my remark on including Arthur Lee and Jimi Hendrix).
You know, I wasn't totally sure either. It was a picture that came up when I searched for Peter Laughner - some people were hard to find in solo or featured photos (hence no picture of Billy Doll). I'll have to research that. Thanks for confirming my doubts... :)
Nice work, but I have to ask: are you sure that's a pic of Peter Laughner? I've seen a bunch of pictures of him, and that one doesn't seem quite right. Not saying it isn't for sure, just asking.
Well, it's not the easiest track to get. It can be ordered through Antony's website in physical form (the CD single also has a cover of Julee Cruise's MYSTERIES OF LOVE and Current 93's SAD BLACK STARS).
this is such a beautiful song, ive wanted to get it for a while. but i cant find the cd on antony and the johnsons site. if you know the address i can purchase it from would you post it here please?
By the way, sadly, it would seem it is NOT available any longer, neither through Rebis Music (who seem to carry much of Antony's stuff, including a 7" I should get) nor Secretly Canadian nor even on Amazon. There are, of course, other channels, but I clearly have such respect for copyright I shan't name them... :)
This was absolutely stunning - so poignant. Never heard this AATJ track before, but the comibindation was just so perfect. So many memories come to me now of passed friends. Thank you.
Fantastic picture of Freddie Mercury at the end, I'm glad you picked a very tasteful one. ^_^ I think it should have included Jeff Buckley...he's who I think of every time I hear that song.
Really affecting. The whole idea. I had never heard the music (and don't know the singer ... yes, I live in a closet), so this video hit me like a train. Nice pic of Jobriath :)
YOU FORGOT THE LOVE OF MY LIFE!!! Sweet George Harrison. And Johnny Lennon. Oh yeah, I'm 14.
newallthestars100 1 month ago
@newallthestars100 - George would have been a good choice - he was sort of cute. John, not so much (though he is my second favourite Beatle, after George (Paul's my least favourite)).
Timmybear 1 month ago
I think Stiv Bators should be in this, it works on two levels.
metaller8 2 months ago
I've had a soft spot for Bobby Driscoll for a couple of years <3
louiselovesmagic 3 months ago
the guy at 2:28 looks like captain hook
TheMoonspirityue1 8 months ago
@TheMoonspirityue1 - He does, kind of. He was a local (to my town) musician named Joe Chitalen.
Timmybear 8 months ago 2
You do know, that Billy Tipton was actually a woman, right?
LiveBeat713 10 months ago
@LiveBeat713 - I do know Billy was labelled as female as a child. Identity and biology do not always coincide. I'm male, but the existence of people like Mel Gibson, George W. Bush and Perez Hilton make me reluctant to be a man.
Timmybear 10 months ago 4
@Timmybear I agree with your view on this matter. I was just checking, because thought this is public knowledge now there's still people who are unaware of this. Thank you for not being one of them.
LiveBeat713 10 months ago
@LiveBeat713 - and thank YOU. The transphobia/gender rigidity in my community (queer community) has always puzzled and disgusted me. There's a trans-cub (young furry gent) in this town (at least one), and I have no issue with it. 'Goodness knows some folks do. :(
Timmybear 10 months ago 4
@Timmybear Yeah some people only support diversity and acceptance as much as it takes to ensure they are protected, and I think some gay people feel if they hostile to those who are considered "weirder" than them, then that will normalise them to the general heteronormative body politic, it doesn't work, but it doesn't stop people trying.
The again some people are just bigoted, hateful scum :/
lukeisareilly 7 months ago
@LiveBeat713 Billy Tipton was a transperson. Brandon Teena... ALSO a transperson.
F2Mbody 9 months ago
@F2Mbody - Indeed, they were. They seemed to identify as male, though.
Timmybear 9 months ago
Brandon Teena was so beautiful :(
Vixenkitten1982 1 year ago 2
I don't think that putting pictures of dead boys is really accurate to the song. I'm beginning to think that this song is about falling in love with a transvestite. I watched a video where Antony was singing this song to a room of transvestites. So.. I'm thinking that's what it's about. The "dead boy" is figurative for a boy who is no longer a boy.
naturallyhi3 1 year ago 20
@naturallyhi3 - You may have a point. The song supports multiple interpretations. Other than, oh, 'Pop Goes The Weasel', though, songs are filtered through the listener's brain - there's no such thing as 'this is what the song is about' (I've met people who miss 'the point' of LOLA, but they still enjoy the song...).
Timmybear 1 year ago 3
@naturallyhi3 its actually about a person who was hiv positive that he fell in love with. theres a video on youtube where he explains this before he sings the song. search something like "I FEEL in love with a dead boy grec" and you should find it. so to me, i agree, that makes this video completely irrevelant to the meaning of the actual song.
TWard82 1 year ago
@TWard82 - There is no such thing as one meaning to a song. Meaning is in the ear of the listener. Much as with literature, if the text can support the reading, there is no 'right' or 'wrong' take.
Timmybear 8 months ago 4
@naturallyhi3 The song was written about someone afflicted with AIDS, but there is no correct interpretation. That's the lovely thing about music.
emeraldthane 2 months ago
@naturallyhi3 "i tell my family i wish you could have met him"
sTapleEVA 5 days ago
There's other boys I'd like to see that are missing, but you know what? It's his video & he's entitled to use boys that mean so much to him. I say "bravo" to that.
MadameLil 1 year ago
It's better to say that Billy Tipton was at least born a woman. As far as the musician is concerned, Billy was a man.
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Fucking D BOON man, awesome. We still got wATT. he should tour more.
I knew you wouldn't leave out Freddy. Nice video.
thebleedingjeans 1 year ago
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thebleedingjeans 1 year ago
perfect. except dwayne goettel was missing.
razorhips 1 year ago
Billy Tipton was actually a female =/
Obox925 1 year ago
@Obox925 - Everyone has an opinion - one of the two things everyone has. We will never be entirely certain how Billy identified, but there seems to be a fair amount of evidence he identified as male.
Timmybear 1 year ago 2
like i said this is a sick video
AshantisSmith1 1 year ago
@AshantisSmith1 - I understand what you think. I disagree - I'm not required to agree. :)
Timmybear 1 year ago 3
@AshantisSmith1 Why is remembering the dead sick?
drakason 1 year ago
this is crazy i dont watch dead stuff
AshantisSmith1 1 year ago
no marc bolan
lostaglio6666 1 year ago
shoulda had Stiv bators
CreepyFreakFilms 1 year ago
Well, I could only shoehorn in so many - and I didn't think Stiv was cute. :)
Timmybear 1 year ago
D Boon <3
CreepyFreakFilms 1 year ago
where sid viscious
Oi325 2 years ago
Well, I couldn't put EVERYONE, and, anyway, it was mostly boys I could conceive falling in love with. Sid's not really my type. ;)
Timmybear 2 years ago
@Timmybear ok ha
Oi325 1 year ago
thats darby at 3:09
Oi325 2 years ago
3:09 would be Billy Tipton. Darby's at about 0:39. :)
Timmybear 2 years ago
@Timmybear what that totally looks like darby
Oi325 1 year ago
i will always remember this as our song my sweet special girl xoxo
Samaire8 2 years ago
aw........... i cried
thank you for posting this wonderful poignant video....... oh death... but it gives us meaning to life
with love
robbiew8n
xx
robbiew8n 2 years ago
Wow! Johnny Thunders.. Hadn't thought about him in a long damn time. Really want to get that documentary of Arthur Kane later on in his life. What about Joey Ramone?
aitch3 2 years ago
I agree with both PJ Soles and Helen Love in re the attractiveness of Joey Ramone. :)
Timmybear 2 years ago
I fell in love with Egon Schiele.
Libellebr 2 years ago 3
why is he so sick ? someone plz explain him to me, I just love his music, but I dont know anything about antony, for example, this song is sick .... SOmeone enlight me plz!!!
djorgos 2 years ago 3
Lovely tribute...maybe Jeff Buckley's would have graced Antony's voice, as well...*****
BluesMamaRaven 2 years ago
I'm really happy you included Brandon Teena in this :) A lovely tribute to him and the others here
AsiaNeko 2 years ago 16
Great song
Great video.
j90brit 2 years ago 3
sooo beautiful <3
and first pic of Kurt is wonderful
antony is an angel
mellymolko 2 years ago 4
Thank you.
Timmybear 2 years ago
what about brad nowell
MARCSUX 2 years ago
Him again. I don't really know Sublime's music. I"m sure he was probably very nice. It is only a 4 minute song, though. ;)
Timmybear 2 years ago
I fell in love with Johnny Cash three years after he died ):
BringOnThaaMusic 2 years ago
Oh, Darby Crash. So beautiful. So talented. So perfect. I truly have fallen in love with a dead boy.
RichieDagger22 2 years ago 2
Why the songs Antony releases on EP are often better than the ones from studio albums? This is great!
andrzejrobertendriu 2 years ago 2
I'm well aware what society said Billy was. It has been known to be wrong :)
Timmybear 2 years ago
Thank you soo much for this brillant contribution. I just can't stop looking at these beautiful boys. I lost my brother 4 months ago. He was a beautiful (but tortured) boy. Thanks again.
luvtoluvyababy 2 years ago
2:13....is that jesus ?:D
amberhateyou 2 years ago 3
Close. Angus MacLise, the original drummer of the Velvet Underground (1938-1979).
Timmybear 2 years ago
Now I guess I should add Jeff Hanson. :(
Timmybear 2 years ago
I saw antony last night, he sang this song, very beautifully haunting. He writes the best songs because he is a tourterd soul. Most geniuses do ther best work when they are torterd-lennon,van gough-gazza-hitler(even tho he was evil)
patty269 2 years ago 3
Amazing song, but does anyone else think it is a creepy video?
kr6426 2 years ago
Well, that was not entirely unintentional. Some of these people ran right to death with open arms. I don't think The Grim Reaper should be feared, but you needn't make it easy for Him.
Timmybear 2 years ago
good to see johnny n jerry in there...
jetgirl72 2 years ago 2
and Arthur. :) (I could not find a single picture of Billy Murcia by himself :( )
Timmybear 2 years ago
Absolutely gorgeous song. Antony is so talented. The words to all of his music are just beautiful. I am so thankful I found Antony & The Johnsons. The music is so beautiful you could cry.
stevenlaguna 2 years ago 5
Wonderful. Only where is the most beautiful dead boy ever-James Dean?
littlegypsy71 2 years ago 7
Well said, i thought the same..
j90brit 2 years ago 2
my pleasure lol
ughtheresnomorenames 2 years ago
woow...
what a voice!!!
amazing
veddie8181 2 years ago 4
So amazing......................
Whistlejocket 2 years ago 2
darby.
ughtheresnomorenames 2 years ago
Thanks, ugh. I think you're the first spotter of Mr. Crash. :)
Timmybear 2 years ago
I fell in love with Joe Strummer, also. =[
AshleyRox14 2 years ago
No Jeff Buckley? What a a beautiful dead boy..
doldromofthemerry 2 years ago 2
Yes, his voice is lovely. His looks don't do much for me - don't repulse me, but don't do much. I'm inclined towards the bigger and furrier... ;)
Timmybear 2 years ago
Beautiful...really.
antmolinaro 2 years ago
de-lovely
Superoutro 3 years ago
Yeah, they forgot a 'Dead Boy' literally when Stiv Bators wasn't included in this slideshow, and other Cleveland punks in Peter Laughner and Jim Jones of Pere Ubu. 3 Ramones, and Elliott Smith forgotten too. great slideshow and music however. kudos.
MannyMiles 3 years ago 2
Yes, I should do a sequel.
Jim Jones was sweet - I remember getting a handwritten note on an order when he thought it had taken too long for him to fulflll it (I was expecting longer, based on the Ubutique caveats). Also sent me a t-shirt.
Yes, Stiv Bators would make sense. Of course, the choices were based on aesthetic responses to appearance, and, other than Joey, I didn't find the Ramones attractive.
As to Laughner - long story there. Meant to include him - put in a wrong picture.
Timmybear 3 years ago
I Fell In Love With A dead boy called River Phoenix
coquisvrindavana 3 years ago 4
larrybOb, that is. Oops...
Timmybear 3 years ago
i fell in love with Brandon Teena <3 *O*
LolitaR0ck 3 years ago 4
aww... the break before he says "I fell in love with you" is indescribable.
cinestar2 3 years ago 9
First time I saw Antony live at Cafe Du Nord in San Francisco he did this song and the pause was even longer... and the audience was so quiet... amazing.
larrybob 3 years ago 3
ooooh, hi, larrybyb! I somehow missed this comment until now. Nice to hear from you. ;)
Timmybear 3 years ago
How come no stiv bators? or brian jones, or bob mcbride, or mitch mitchell????
ifeelallright 3 years ago 2
Well, it's only a 4 minute song, after all, and it's MY aesthetic tastes. :) Stiv Bators, I didn't mind in Lords of the New Church, musically, but didn't care for his looks much. Brian Jones, sad death, brilliant musician - not cute. I don't know who Bob McBride is. Mitch Mitchell, brilliant musician. I should do a sequel, I think. :)
Timmybear 3 years ago
Amazing, so poignant and heartwrenching. I love you for this!
pete0118 3 years ago 3
Well, I don't think him particularly cute, though, if you search for my video of Patty Waters' "Moon Don't Come Up Tonight", there's a picture of him there.
Timmybear 3 years ago
And what about Jeff Buckley !!!
simasgar 3 years ago 4
man, you've got good taste. the song's good too, but I'm talking about your choice for dead boys. death sucks
kidonritalin 3 years ago 2
thank you, this is beautiful.
MmeAaricia 3 years ago 3
Thank you. It was, of course, a deliberate synch-up. :)
Timmybear 3 years ago
Great song, great video, I especially like that the images of Billy Tipton and Brandon Teena come up just as the "are you a boy or a girl" part is sung. Very moving.
master0monster 3 years ago 5
shit! this must be THE BEST love song ever!!! it's also cool that you thought of these really beautiful boys, especially joe strummer :)
really cool ;)
KJGbg 3 years ago 2
Thank you. I realize the pictures of Johnny Thunders and Jerry Nolan aren't them at their prettiest (Jerry was absolutely stunning in his youth), but try and find single pictures of them in their heyday!
But I thank you for your kind words.
Timmybear 3 years ago
Just beautiful Tim, many thanks for putting this song up. I listened to the small MP3 snippet on the A&TJ website and that 20 seconds was enough to make me cry. Being able to hear the whole song is such a treasure. Antony truly is an amazing soul.
sasparella555 3 years ago
Thank you.
All this praise is coming dangerously close to bolstering my self-esteem. Good thing I have a naughty boyfriend to undercut it. ;)
Timmybear 3 years ago
oh wow!amazing!
shellyblue75 3 years ago 3
COOL GOOD JOB
TIMMBSC 3 years ago 3
OMG !
EmoKickAssChick 3 years ago 2
Thank you (I think ;) ).
Timmybear 3 years ago
no!! thank you !!! great video ! and u got the song I have been looking for ages ! Untill I remembered You Tube ! OMG !!! The song of my life ! Thank u so much ! But I must ask u something ...why do u think in the end of the song he asks him if he is boy or a girl ? We all agreed it's a dead boy ! huh ? I dont get that ...
EmoKickAssChick 3 years ago
I suppose it's because it's a beautiful boy, and, sadly, the word beautiful isn't attributed to boys very commonly (it's like a boy trying to talk about a boyfriend the same way a girl talks about a girlfriend - with two girls, it could mean like best friends - boys don't get that luxury (well, I do, but, then, I have boyfriends who ARE boyfriends... :) ). Plus, it could be a sly reference back to Miss Antony's own gender ambiguities.
Timmybear 3 years ago
Wonderful! Thanks for that!
cincishaman 3 years ago 2
Oh, dear, you are very much right, jolcom - teach me to do things in a hurry. This would seem to be Jimmy Zero from the Dead Boys (which, oddly, almost reflects on an earlier comment made here by a fellow whose own videos are quite disturbing and solicited my remark on including Arthur Lee and Jimi Hendrix).
Timmybear 3 years ago
A comment I have now decided to remove. Though his remark was innocuous enough, clicking on his name leads to a page full of white power nonsense.
Timmybear 3 years ago
You know, I wasn't totally sure either. It was a picture that came up when I searched for Peter Laughner - some people were hard to find in solo or featured photos (hence no picture of Billy Doll). I'll have to research that. Thanks for confirming my doubts... :)
Timmybear 3 years ago
That'll teach me not to act in haste. :)
Timmybear 3 years ago
Nice work, but I have to ask: are you sure that's a pic of Peter Laughner? I've seen a bunch of pictures of him, and that one doesn't seem quite right. Not saying it isn't for sure, just asking.
jolcom 3 years ago
SOFT BLACK STARS. Now you can tell how often I listen to THAT selection. :)
Timmybear 3 years ago
Well, it's not the easiest track to get. It can be ordered through Antony's website in physical form (the CD single also has a cover of Julee Cruise's MYSTERIES OF LOVE and Current 93's SAD BLACK STARS).
Timmybear 3 years ago
this is such a beautiful song, ive wanted to get it for a while. but i cant find the cd on antony and the johnsons site. if you know the address i can purchase it from would you post it here please?
awesome video btw
66mikedove99 3 years ago
By the way, sadly, it would seem it is NOT available any longer, neither through Rebis Music (who seem to carry much of Antony's stuff, including a 7" I should get) nor Secretly Canadian nor even on Amazon. There are, of course, other channels, but I clearly have such respect for copyright I shan't name them... :)
Timmybear 3 years ago
i downloaded it from limewire, i can send it to anyone who wants it if they do
ShAuNyBoBz 3 years ago
This was absolutely stunning - so poignant. Never heard this AATJ track before, but the comibindation was just so perfect. So many memories come to me now of passed friends. Thank you.
cazashakes 3 years ago
Beautiful compilation of images and Anthony's soulful androgynous voice!
intactivist1 3 years ago
Why, thank you, friend. I checked out your videos - good choices. :)
Timmybear 3 years ago
Fantastic picture of Freddie Mercury at the end, I'm glad you picked a very tasteful one. ^_^ I think it should have included Jeff Buckley...he's who I think of every time I hear that song.
ChoiceUnintended 3 years ago
Thank you, Williepe. :)
Timmybear 3 years ago
Really affecting. The whole idea. I had never heard the music (and don't know the singer ... yes, I live in a closet), so this video hit me like a train. Nice pic of Jobriath :)
Simply excellent.
Williepe 3 years ago