Investigate the banks on Wall Street Michelle. You want to talk about serious issues and corruption, that's where it is, on Wall Street starting with Ben Bernake
Has Michelle Bachman lost her fucking mind, investigation, corruption, yes the repub's are trying to get people distracted from the real issue. You want to talk about corruption, look at the banks and the monies you lend them. JP Morgan insider trading, Congress hedging against the banks, 50 Billion dollars lent to other countries financial institutions. You want to investigate corruption, let's start their Michelle,
Nothing that made the Cuban or English version of the health care bill so successful or popular in their versions is in ours. In fact, it's not even free. We just have to have it now. It's the most inefficient joke of legislation i've seen since... the Bailouts and stimulus. Obama is a failure, this health care is a failure, and bush was a failure because of his leftist spending.
Thomas Jefferson: "The best way to help the poor is to make them uncomfortable in their poverty." .Thus, a safety net like Medicaid is ok, but universal healthcare will make them too comfortable in their poverty. And if you dont believe universal healthcare is for the poor, then understand something: Wealth redistribution is not in the Constitution.
Stop trying to argue. You can not make a single valid point, like most youtube lefties. You just dismiss things you do not understand, and need to stay out of politics.
@ScreamxBloodyxGore Ahh yes, great point. I don't understand, your absolutely right. What I do understand tho is that trying to have a reasonable debate on the internet is virtually impossible, so why bother? If someone wants to debate me for real, I am more then willing too, but unfortunately I rarely see any point in doing so since all butthurt conservatives on the internet are just as whiny as the moronic lefties you bitch an moan about
(2) Robbing Medicare and SocialSecurity to fund this healthcare bill.
(3) First 10 years adds $500 billion to deficit. Second 10 years adds $1.5 trillion.
You read it right, 2nd 10 years adds $1.5T to the deficit. Obama's team has not yet responded to this criticism by Republican Senators. Majority of Americans do not want this bill passed, but Democrats will try to jam it through using reconcilation tactic.
It's gonna be fun to see the PAYGO justification on the CBO's books....although if they label it "direct spending" I guess they can ignore the budget ramifications....not that it really matters anymore...what's another trillion on the debt? I'm sure that as Uncle Sam continues to print money to give everything to everyone that there will be no ramifications.....lol
@DillonX Huh! Interesting...you sound a little like the Nuremburg Laws of Nazi Germany and those that quickly followed them:
"Are you physically, genetically, or mentally unsound?? (...according to WHOSE STANDARDS? Hmmm...well, you disagree with US!!) Well, we've determined you are, so you can't hold a governmental office...but, that's not all, folks (or, volks, in German :o)! You are no longer a German citizen, so you can no longer own property.
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No wonder we have a community organizing duffus that has spent millions keeping his entire history and qualifications in secret. You lefties have no idea of what country you live in. You would all seem to be much happier in Cuba! Please go there.
This is such a fucking joke. Democrats don't need a single republican vote & still can't get this passed. Why? Because their own people don't want it. When democrat constitutents do the research & find out what is in this they are on the phone to their reps screaming. If they had the votes, it would be law. The only ones wanting it are UTOOB whackos & corrupt politicians like Grayson.
If the GOP wants to explore the possibilities of cronyism in the white house, I hope they fasten their seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride. Let's start with Bush's college roommate being appointed head of FEMA!
The fact that the appointed judge in question was endorsed by some republicans is lost (ignored) by this crazy, batty, witch!
I love listening to Bachmann. It sounds like she's really trying hard to convince herself of this "horrible corruption scandal." A couple of times I seriously thought she was going to burst out laughing at herself.
Watch her face. She can't even take herself seriously. Why should anybody else?
Bachmann calls for an investigation into a matter which, even if true, violates no law and calls to millions to continue dying before their time in the name of a demonstratively flawed economic theory even as she accepts $20 thousand each year in agricultural subsidies. If she truly believes all she claims, she would refuse these federal funds and encourage her supporters to do likewise.
The theory that government is always less capable than private industry, specifically, the idea that a government insurances is necessary less efficient and more costly when considerable evidence exists to the contrary
In the UK, Germany, France, and Norway, for example, people live longer and pay less for national healthcare
In the US, about 70% of money paid for private insurance goes to healthcare while nearly 98% of government provided Medicare and VA care goes to healthcare
Please tell me you're not looking to Europe for economic fortitude. Realize that the U.S. became the greatest nation on Earth because of capitalism, and people fled socialism in Europe (like my parents), to come to America because of that "theory" you think is flawed. Understand that what you think we have today is not capitalism. The market has been so distorted by idiots attempting to move toward a European model that it's going to shit. Your warped sense of reality is sickening.
I am a US citizen but it is very sad to see the "used to be" greatest nation turn into crap. I hate to say that but very soon China ( a socialist country) will beat us economically... does that mean capitalism is worse than socialism? Anyhow are we not a melting pot of every society? We should take the best combination of system out there and use it...
China has 200m people in the middle class but a billion in poverty. I'd like nothing of that system. I'd like nothing of having my child taken from me for their liking. I'd like nothing to do with being shot or hanged for speaking out against my political system. Looking to China for "good points" is like looking to slavery for good points.
As for the UK, Germany, France and Norway... your kidding. People *leave* these nations to come to America... not the other way around. They don't have the nearly the same standard of living as America.
I came to America to make money not for the living standard. Personally, I want to move to Canada or NZ or Australia. I've been there and I know I like there a lot more.
My mother works with immigration. Lots of immigrants tell her they plan to retire in their country after making enough money. They don't care about the US. It is just a working place...
Well that's you. I wouldn't mind you gone, to be honest. But fortunately you're nothing like the majority of Americans who came her and love it here. They come from nothing, become a trucker, and see standards of living and freedom they never had in their homeland. Amazing. I understand the nostalgia of going home. My mom wants to retire in Portugal. But not for the country; for her friends there. Portugal offers nothing. And what it does offer is 10x worse than America. You're just a sad case.
@njcarlos1: I left USA to live in UK. Best decision I've ever made. I started a business, it thrived, I sold it & retired @ age 45. I wasn't taxed to death. You know nothing about European socialism and your 'facts' are total bullshit. Saying France & Norway (especially Norway) don't have the same standard of living as the USA is correct, but not as you mean it. It's far better than the USA. I know. I've a 2nd home in France & my wife is Norwegian.
Except I believe none of that and in fact I do know much about Europe considering my entire family grew up there before joining the EU (which has only caused harm to their nation) and trust me, they'd never go back. Only idiots think socialism works, cause they'd have to ignore how everything that progresses toward socialism goes bankrupt. Hey the EU is on good pace though. They Euro is only 11 years old and it's already going to hell in a handbasket. SWEEEEEET!
And it's not a "theory" that private enterprise is more efficient than government, it's a FACT. Look at any government program that has a private sector counterpart and the private sector is ahead. Shipping? Private sector. USPS is pretty much useless. Prisons? Private sector. National coverage of patients for health care? There is no government counterpart. If there was, it'd be failing. In fact, the only thing close to it is Medicare/aid and they're bankrupt. Go figure. Idiots.
Private company works great but not everywhere. For ex, fireman used to be private. If your house was in fire, you had to call the correct station. I also don't want to have to drive to "my" police station and ask for help. I want any cop to come and help me out
This is healthcare. If I am injured, I don't like the fact I have to go to my hospital or lose all my money. By then I may die. Anyhow, the current bill is very weak, and it is still not passing because of republican & lobbyists
If the government is so efficient why don't they run *everything?* Hm? If the government is so efficient explain how they're running $12T in debt with $7T in unpaid liabilities? I mean are we on the same fuckin' planet?
Bush tax cut & some senators are owned by the lobbyists. I don't like the government in some situations BUT if they really pass an OPTIONAL medicare buy-in healthcare with no pre-existing condition, I love it. I would definitely will get a quote and decide to buy it or not.
For ex, my friend & his wife earn +300k/years... but he had an heart attack. He cannot buy health care by himself. His company provided him healthcare. So what should he do when he retired if the government does nothing?
The debt and deficit are, in the majority, the result of unwise and unfunded spending by GW Bush. And nowhere did I suggest the government run everything. Consumer choice is essential for democracy, and that requires entrepreneurs. But there are necessities the government can provide more cheaply and efficiently than can private enterprise. These are usually things, like medical care, which defy the economic rule of supply and demand. (continued)
For example, should I want a book, I can always wait until the price goes down and purchase it at a discount. But should I sever a finger, I must seek medical attention at once. I cannot wait until some hospital offers a "sale" or look for competing services. I must find the nearest hospital at one. The market does not function in such cases.
You clearly don't understand the difference between health "care" and "insurance." Insurance is just that. Health "care" is open to everyone regardless of finances. Anyone that "dies" from not getting medical attention is an idiot, as it takes 1 trip to the ER. If you can't afford it, you're good. If you can, you get on a payment plan, or you look to charities that hit upwards of 85% coverage of bills. There *are* options... like Medicaid for low-income families. Give me a break.
Were I not insured by state government, I could never purchase private insurance at a reasonable rate because I have a chronic illness and a pre-existing condition. When I worked in the private sector, my doctors I constantly argued with my insurance company over needed treatments. They seemingly fought every charge despite my high premiums. They would have dumped me as a patiently eventually. (continued)
As for charities, you must be kidding. My family was very poor as a child, and my mother died young after being forced to rely on charitable healthcare. I can remember the quality of her care as opposed to the care I receive. And how did those charities work out for the millions of people who lost their homes as a result of medical bankruptcies, 80% of whom were covered by private insurance? No thanks, I'll stick with my government-provided healthcare.
Greed existed in human nature long before governments rose in ancient river valleys. Actually, these problems existed before government intervention. At the beginning of the 1930s, regulations were virtually non-existent. In fact, when Congress passed a law to make companies buy insurance to cover workers injured on the job, SCOTUS found it unconstitutional.
Ask yourself why the best insurance policies are found in states which best regulate insurance companies.
Are you suggesting that those soldiers killed defeating the Nazis, police officers killed in the line of duty, medical workers who staff neighborhood clinics for substandard wages, firefighters who died on 9/11, low paid teachers working in poor neighborhoods, congressmen who voted for the Civil Rights Act when it would cost the next election, and on and on acted because of their greed?
I find that hard to believe. Lawyers and MBAs motivated by greed go into business, not government work.
Goverment isn't run by those noble individuals though. Soldiers were forced to fight in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Torture was "legalized" by the Bush administration. Mass poverty was created through the Federal Reserve system. The Civil Rights movement would have been unnecessary if the Jim Crow laws were not enacted. Teachers are now getting fired for working in those poor neighborhoods because of low standardized test scores.
That is true to a degree, but remember that only a strong government was necessary to defend us from the imperialist powers during WW II. Torture has existed throughout history and only governments were able to forbade its use. If we had a strong government to enforce the 14th and 15th Amendments as well as the Reconstruction Civil Rights Acts, we would never have experienced Jim Crow. The firing of teachers is made at the local level, and often results from cuts in federal support (continued)
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." is a quote by Isoroku Yamamoto, Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy during World War II.
Secondly, the 14th and 15th amendments were only printed on paper. Central goverments can't end racism. Malcolm X and Dr. Martin Luther King never advocated for growing the size of central goverment to end it ethier.
Modern military weapon technology has progressed far beyond anything Admiral Yamamoto could ever imagine. A single 21st-century American aircraft carrier could easily defeat the combined armed forces of all participants in WW II given a sufficient of missiles, bombs, and bullets. And untrained individuals armed with civilian-grade rifles and shotguns could never withstand trained opponents armed with modern military-grade equipment. (continued)
The 14th Amendment is the source of what you likely consider the bulk of your liberties. The 15th Amendment empowered American minorities. Don't dismiss them. They form an important part of our Constitution.
The role of the federal government is not to end racism, as noble a goal as that might be. Rather, the goal of the federal government is to protect individuals from racism when possible. (continued)
The views of 20th-century African-American leaders are insignificant to the size of the federal government. The role and size of our federal government depends upon its Constitutional limits and federal statutory law (and sometime a little of the common law system we inherited from England)
As for the Fed, a careful history will show that it has usually saved far more jobs than it has ever cost. In fact, the highest unemployment in our history occurred in part because a very conservative Supreme Court and two Republican presidents played a major role in reducing its powers during the 1920s.
The Federal Reserve was created in 1913. Even Ben Bernake admitted the Great Depression was caused by the Federal Reserve for decreasing the money supply to the People.
We've had small depressions before due to bank failuers, but never a full decade. That was caused by the banks gaining total control of our nation's money supply.
If Bernake claims the Fed caused the Great Depression, he lacks the economic knowledge required to run a lemonade stand. Trust the economic and history books on this topic. Look it up for yourself.
@LarcheOsborne End-of-time 1 Obama victory-news made media's headlines 2 Same day disaster struck him for ever 3 IL. Lottery drew 666 4 The front page headlines shared with 666 destroyed him "Obama Wins White House - Lottery draws 666" 5 So the people of Illinois saw Obama was the Antichrist 6 The Bible says "The Antichrist suffers a fatal head-wound" 7 The Lotto's Obama's fatal head-wound "killing" him 8 Reveal this everywhere, to everyone of the whole world 9 His 666 Beast-Mark's money
The 2005 translation of the very earliest Book of Revelation shows the number clearly to be 616, not 666. The 2005 translation was made on a 1700-year-old papyrus recovered from the city of Oxyrhynchus in Egypt, and deciphered by a palaeographical research team from the University of Birmingham (UK). The team was led by Professor David Parker, considered to be the worlds foremost expert palaeography.
the representative she's slandering has long been on board for the senate version of CHR.
and the judgeships take MONTHS to go through, not overnight. repug senator orrin hatch has praised the judicial nominee in question, and the nominee has been appointed to utah state positions by gop govs. he is dean of University of Utah's law school.
bachman has, what, a g.e.d.?
batshit bachman is guilty of slander and needs to be censured.
Grayson sure jumped into fake *ss, crying for those who "die because they don't" have FORCED PRIVATE INSURANCE, professional politician mode fast.
The next time some *sshole holds up a bill, and the rest of them don't come running back to fix the problem-LIKE FOR THE BANKER BAILOUTS, you can lose your unemployment and go to jail for not paying your PRIVATE health INSURANCE bill.
NOT ONE of you f*cktards has read either parties bills. BOTH force corp insurance with criminal penalties.
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Grayson is a total NUTBALL!
Fact is Nancy DOESN'T have the votes!
If she did it would be on the Presidents desk by now, and all this WHINING on the part of Obama and the Democrats BLAMING the republicans is nothing but a BUNCH OR CRAP.
Sorry DUMMYCRAPS, the American people are ENGAGED NOW! We are watching everything you do and say!
@NoCensorshipYT: You do realize that Bachmann and her family have been collecting Socialist style farm subsidies for years right ... Sounds to me like she's a closet communist.
Republicans do nothing but turn speculation into fact! She has no idea what the President discussed with this person, every word out of her mouth was pure speculation!
If the President is offering someone a position as a way of buying a vote for healthcare then it is an issue and she was right to bring it up. no matter if you want healthcare reform to pass or not if that is what he is doing, buying votes, then it is wrong, not that the reform is wrong his actions to get it done are. It just so happens that this instance of possible corruption is taking place at the same time the healthcare reform debate is taking place.
Sure it might be a legit issue, but take in account that she is known for lying.... but also bea in mind that the question wasnt about corruption it was about health care, bring up the alleged corruption at a different time, she doesnt lack for tv coverage.
Prove it. I can't wait for all the shit that Bush and Repubs did in his dynasty to come forward. We'll find he was a puppet who did what the corporations wanted, ie: Guns for money and oil for free. I'll take a little bribe to get healthcare if that's what it takes to get around these repub dipshits.
volumedealer, I'm afraid that when you say Bachmann is "talking true" you're letting on that you're poorly educated and apparently clueless about what she has said. Adult education classes for you. kid.
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Grayson is a liar himself, so between these two you might as well watch another show because neither one has a close relationship with intellectual honesty
REMOVE MICHELLE BACHMAN, SHE'S NOT FOR THE PEOPLE
justice79170 2 months ago
Investigate the banks on Wall Street Michelle. You want to talk about serious issues and corruption, that's where it is, on Wall Street starting with Ben Bernake
justice79170 2 months ago
MICHELLE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE.
justice79170 2 months ago
Has Michelle Bachman lost her fucking mind, investigation, corruption, yes the repub's are trying to get people distracted from the real issue. You want to talk about corruption, look at the banks and the monies you lend them. JP Morgan insider trading, Congress hedging against the banks, 50 Billion dollars lent to other countries financial institutions. You want to investigate corruption, let's start their Michelle,
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TheGigettyBrothers 9 months ago
Nothing that made the Cuban or English version of the health care bill so successful or popular in their versions is in ours. In fact, it's not even free. We just have to have it now. It's the most inefficient joke of legislation i've seen since... the Bailouts and stimulus. Obama is a failure, this health care is a failure, and bush was a failure because of his leftist spending.
ScreamxBloodyxGore 1 year ago
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Thomas Jefferson: "The best way to help the poor is to make them uncomfortable in their poverty." .Thus, a safety net like Medicaid is ok, but universal healthcare will make them too comfortable in their poverty. And if you dont believe universal healthcare is for the poor, then understand something: Wealth redistribution is not in the Constitution.
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SuperCaliforniaGuy 2 years ago
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The real costs are: [by Monkey & SuperCal] (1) 10 years of taxes for 6 years of benefits.
(2) Cut $460 billion from Medicare.
(3) Rob $52 billion from SS.
(4) Rob $72 billion from long-term disability.
(5) Double count the above as bill cost offsets.
(6) Transfer $371 billion into another bill called Doc Fix.
Thus, the true cost is $2.3 trillion for first 10 years, not the democrats advertised $950 billion. This means ballooning the deficit.
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SuperCaliforniaGuy 2 years ago
By the way.
I KNOW about OBAMA.
Obama is nothing more than a typical,Chicago way Democratic politician.
NOT Mr. HOPEYCHANGEY.
Wake UP asshole!
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago
Whahh whahhh whahhh i'm an internets troll wahhh wahhh. goodbye.
nchorekchyan 2 years ago
Stop trying to argue. You can not make a single valid point, like most youtube lefties. You just dismiss things you do not understand, and need to stay out of politics.
ScreamxBloodyxGore 1 year ago
@ScreamxBloodyxGore Ahh yes, great point. I don't understand, your absolutely right. What I do understand tho is that trying to have a reasonable debate on the internet is virtually impossible, so why bother? If someone wants to debate me for real, I am more then willing too, but unfortunately I rarely see any point in doing so since all butthurt conservatives on the internet are just as whiny as the moronic lefties you bitch an moan about
nchorekchyan 1 year ago
GOP is dying.
Reqrezentin 2 years ago
GOP is gonna KICK Dem BUTT come November!
Don't cry!
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago
The real costs are:
(1) 10 years of taxes for 6 years of benefits.
(2) Robbing Medicare and SocialSecurity to fund this healthcare bill.
(3) First 10 years adds $500 billion to deficit. Second 10 years adds $1.5 trillion.
You read it right, 2nd 10 years adds $1.5T to the deficit. Obama's team has not yet responded to this criticism by Republican Senators. Majority of Americans do not want this bill passed, but Democrats will try to jam it through using reconcilation tactic.
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SuperCaliforniaGuy 2 years ago
Right on!
SuperCaliforniaGuy!
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago
GOP fail
aridogg2 2 years ago
It's gonna be fun to see the PAYGO justification on the CBO's books....although if they label it "direct spending" I guess they can ignore the budget ramifications....not that it really matters anymore...what's another trillion on the debt? I'm sure that as Uncle Sam continues to print money to give everything to everyone that there will be no ramifications.....lol
Nickelodeon2002 2 years ago
Michelle Bachman is an evil satanic devil woman, funny she thinks she is a Christian and she is going to heaven
I only wish heaven and hell were real so Bachman can get the punishment she deserves
an evil satanic devil lady who is a whore to the health insurance companies and all that is evil in this world
HateRepublicans 2 years ago
Who would have thought that the Meth head and bat shit crazy was such a strong Republican voting block.
MendingMedia 2 years ago
lady and gentlemen republican have another dumbshit
uberster 2 years ago 4
Oral Roberts College graduate Michele Bachmann...I'd like to ask you one question -- Do you believe the Earth is 6,000 years old?
Of course.
You are hereby disqualified from holding any public office which requires rational thinking.
DillonX 2 years ago
@DillonX Huh! Interesting...you sound a little like the Nuremburg Laws of Nazi Germany and those that quickly followed them:
"Are you physically, genetically, or mentally unsound?? (...according to WHOSE STANDARDS? Hmmm...well, you disagree with US!!) Well, we've determined you are, so you can't hold a governmental office...but, that's not all, folks (or, volks, in German :o)! You are no longer a German citizen, so you can no longer own property.
jbuman22 2 years ago
@DillonX "What's more, since you are inferior, we're going to start killing you and your kind en masse!"
You'd better be careful with you thinking. Look back at history and you'll see your reflection. (So much for liberal tolerance, eh?)
jbuman22 2 years ago
two words - "dumb bitch"
Americans who fall for this shit are stupid
marniespeaks 2 years ago 6
So much beauty wasted on such idiocy. I pity Bachmann and her supporters in Minnesota.
whoo689 2 years ago 2
That's not corruption - that's politics as usual.
kaytede 2 years ago 2
"nearly 98% of government provided Medicare and VA care goes to healthcare"
LMAOROF Another Marxist Otrolla heard from. Now that is Funny!!!
Bullit44 2 years ago
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No wonder we have a community organizing duffus that has spent millions keeping his entire history and qualifications in secret. You lefties have no idea of what country you live in. You would all seem to be much happier in Cuba! Please go there.
Bullit44 2 years ago
Bachmann: Embarrassment to the United States.
xxxFaustusxxx 2 years ago 3
STFU bitch. Grayson rules! Just imagine where we would be if he were the president. Shit... the Left would be Rockin!
toddlamp 2 years ago 2
This is such a fucking joke. Democrats don't need a single republican vote & still can't get this passed. Why? Because their own people don't want it. When democrat constitutents do the research & find out what is in this they are on the phone to their reps screaming. If they had the votes, it would be law. The only ones wanting it are UTOOB whackos & corrupt politicians like Grayson.
MrHelldogger 2 years ago
They need one republican vote now lol
mrblob20 2 years ago 2
they aren't even having a conversation, both of them are just randomly spitting out talking points... pathetic.
Riselikethetide 2 years ago
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Michele Bachmann is a rare voice of reason in Washington. Keep it up Michele. Of course they dont want to talk about the corruption.
thane17 2 years ago
Voice of crazy is more like it. Why would Obama ask him to change his vote when he's already for it?
DoctorMeh 2 years ago 2
@thane17: Are you serious?!? Bachmann is one of the looniest of the loons. She's completely crazy and constantly spouts nonsense.
ZuchinniOne 2 years ago 4
LOL "Weapons of MASS Distraction"
If the GOP wants to explore the possibilities of cronyism in the white house, I hope they fasten their seat belts, it's going to be a bumpy ride. Let's start with Bush's college roommate being appointed head of FEMA!
The fact that the appointed judge in question was endorsed by some republicans is lost (ignored) by this crazy, batty, witch!
fret2424 2 years ago 3
I didn't know Bush was still in power. When did he do this?
MrHelldogger 2 years ago
Teddy Kennedy actually came up with that term, and it's a good one.
TrollBuster9090 2 years ago
I love listening to Bachmann. It sounds like she's really trying hard to convince herself of this "horrible corruption scandal." A couple of times I seriously thought she was going to burst out laughing at herself.
Watch her face. She can't even take herself seriously. Why should anybody else?
Karlfalcon 2 years ago 3
Bachmann calls for an investigation into a matter which, even if true, violates no law and calls to millions to continue dying before their time in the name of a demonstratively flawed economic theory even as she accepts $20 thousand each year in agricultural subsidies. If she truly believes all she claims, she would refuse these federal funds and encourage her supporters to do likewise.
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago 4
@LarcheOsborne Demonstratively flawed economic theory? What theory might that be?
njcarlos1 2 years ago
The theory that government is always less capable than private industry, specifically, the idea that a government insurances is necessary less efficient and more costly when considerable evidence exists to the contrary
In the UK, Germany, France, and Norway, for example, people live longer and pay less for national healthcare
In the US, about 70% of money paid for private insurance goes to healthcare while nearly 98% of government provided Medicare and VA care goes to healthcare
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago 2
Please tell me you're not looking to Europe for economic fortitude. Realize that the U.S. became the greatest nation on Earth because of capitalism, and people fled socialism in Europe (like my parents), to come to America because of that "theory" you think is flawed. Understand that what you think we have today is not capitalism. The market has been so distorted by idiots attempting to move toward a European model that it's going to shit. Your warped sense of reality is sickening.
njcarlos1 2 years ago
I am a US citizen but it is very sad to see the "used to be" greatest nation turn into crap. I hate to say that but very soon China ( a socialist country) will beat us economically... does that mean capitalism is worse than socialism? Anyhow are we not a melting pot of every society? We should take the best combination of system out there and use it...
yes4me 2 years ago
@yes4me people just call it capitalism,but what we have isn't.capitalism doesn't involve a gov managed market or counterfeit money.
xromad01 2 years ago
China has 200m people in the middle class but a billion in poverty. I'd like nothing of that system. I'd like nothing of having my child taken from me for their liking. I'd like nothing to do with being shot or hanged for speaking out against my political system. Looking to China for "good points" is like looking to slavery for good points.
njcarlos1 2 years ago
As for the UK, Germany, France and Norway... your kidding. People *leave* these nations to come to America... not the other way around. They don't have the nearly the same standard of living as America.
njcarlos1 2 years ago
I came to America to make money not for the living standard. Personally, I want to move to Canada or NZ or Australia. I've been there and I know I like there a lot more.
My mother works with immigration. Lots of immigrants tell her they plan to retire in their country after making enough money. They don't care about the US. It is just a working place...
yes4me 2 years ago
Well that's you. I wouldn't mind you gone, to be honest. But fortunately you're nothing like the majority of Americans who came her and love it here. They come from nothing, become a trucker, and see standards of living and freedom they never had in their homeland. Amazing. I understand the nostalgia of going home. My mom wants to retire in Portugal. But not for the country; for her friends there. Portugal offers nothing. And what it does offer is 10x worse than America. You're just a sad case.
njcarlos1 2 years ago
@njcarlos1: I left USA to live in UK. Best decision I've ever made. I started a business, it thrived, I sold it & retired @ age 45. I wasn't taxed to death. You know nothing about European socialism and your 'facts' are total bullshit. Saying France & Norway (especially Norway) don't have the same standard of living as the USA is correct, but not as you mean it. It's far better than the USA. I know. I've a 2nd home in France & my wife is Norwegian.
Now fuck off, you asshole. You've been pwnd.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
Except I believe none of that and in fact I do know much about Europe considering my entire family grew up there before joining the EU (which has only caused harm to their nation) and trust me, they'd never go back. Only idiots think socialism works, cause they'd have to ignore how everything that progresses toward socialism goes bankrupt. Hey the EU is on good pace though. They Euro is only 11 years old and it's already going to hell in a handbasket. SWEEEEEET!
Idiot.
njcarlos1 2 years ago
@njcarlos1: "They [sic] Euro is only 11 years old and it's already going to hell in a handbasket."
You really are completely full of shit.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
And it's not a "theory" that private enterprise is more efficient than government, it's a FACT. Look at any government program that has a private sector counterpart and the private sector is ahead. Shipping? Private sector. USPS is pretty much useless. Prisons? Private sector. National coverage of patients for health care? There is no government counterpart. If there was, it'd be failing. In fact, the only thing close to it is Medicare/aid and they're bankrupt. Go figure. Idiots.
njcarlos1 2 years ago
Private company works great but not everywhere. For ex, fireman used to be private. If your house was in fire, you had to call the correct station. I also don't want to have to drive to "my" police station and ask for help. I want any cop to come and help me out
This is healthcare. If I am injured, I don't like the fact I have to go to my hospital or lose all my money. By then I may die. Anyhow, the current bill is very weak, and it is still not passing because of republican & lobbyists
yes4me 2 years ago
If the government is so efficient why don't they run *everything?* Hm? If the government is so efficient explain how they're running $12T in debt with $7T in unpaid liabilities? I mean are we on the same fuckin' planet?
njcarlos1 2 years ago
Bush tax cut & some senators are owned by the lobbyists. I don't like the government in some situations BUT if they really pass an OPTIONAL medicare buy-in healthcare with no pre-existing condition, I love it. I would definitely will get a quote and decide to buy it or not.
For ex, my friend & his wife earn +300k/years... but he had an heart attack. He cannot buy health care by himself. His company provided him healthcare. So what should he do when he retired if the government does nothing?
yes4me 2 years ago
The debt and deficit are, in the majority, the result of unwise and unfunded spending by GW Bush. And nowhere did I suggest the government run everything. Consumer choice is essential for democracy, and that requires entrepreneurs. But there are necessities the government can provide more cheaply and efficiently than can private enterprise. These are usually things, like medical care, which defy the economic rule of supply and demand. (continued)
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
For example, should I want a book, I can always wait until the price goes down and purchase it at a discount. But should I sever a finger, I must seek medical attention at once. I cannot wait until some hospital offers a "sale" or look for competing services. I must find the nearest hospital at one. The market does not function in such cases.
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
You clearly don't understand the difference between health "care" and "insurance." Insurance is just that. Health "care" is open to everyone regardless of finances. Anyone that "dies" from not getting medical attention is an idiot, as it takes 1 trip to the ER. If you can't afford it, you're good. If you can, you get on a payment plan, or you look to charities that hit upwards of 85% coverage of bills. There *are* options... like Medicaid for low-income families. Give me a break.
njcarlos1 2 years ago
Were I not insured by state government, I could never purchase private insurance at a reasonable rate because I have a chronic illness and a pre-existing condition. When I worked in the private sector, my doctors I constantly argued with my insurance company over needed treatments. They seemingly fought every charge despite my high premiums. They would have dumped me as a patiently eventually. (continued)
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago 2
As for charities, you must be kidding. My family was very poor as a child, and my mother died young after being forced to rely on charitable healthcare. I can remember the quality of her care as opposed to the care I receive. And how did those charities work out for the millions of people who lost their homes as a result of medical bankruptcies, 80% of whom were covered by private insurance? No thanks, I'll stick with my government-provided healthcare.
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago 2
Ironically, it was goverment that caused all those problems you just stated.
Kapan60 2 years ago
Greed existed in human nature long before governments rose in ancient river valleys. Actually, these problems existed before government intervention. At the beginning of the 1930s, regulations were virtually non-existent. In fact, when Congress passed a law to make companies buy insurance to cover workers injured on the job, SCOTUS found it unconstitutional.
Ask yourself why the best insurance policies are found in states which best regulate insurance companies.
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
Goverment is nothing more than legalized greed.
Kapan60 2 years ago
Are you suggesting that those soldiers killed defeating the Nazis, police officers killed in the line of duty, medical workers who staff neighborhood clinics for substandard wages, firefighters who died on 9/11, low paid teachers working in poor neighborhoods, congressmen who voted for the Civil Rights Act when it would cost the next election, and on and on acted because of their greed?
I find that hard to believe. Lawyers and MBAs motivated by greed go into business, not government work.
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
Goverment isn't run by those noble individuals though. Soldiers were forced to fight in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan. Torture was "legalized" by the Bush administration. Mass poverty was created through the Federal Reserve system. The Civil Rights movement would have been unnecessary if the Jim Crow laws were not enacted. Teachers are now getting fired for working in those poor neighborhoods because of low standardized test scores.
Kapan60 2 years ago
That is true to a degree, but remember that only a strong government was necessary to defend us from the imperialist powers during WW II. Torture has existed throughout history and only governments were able to forbade its use. If we had a strong government to enforce the 14th and 15th Amendments as well as the Reconstruction Civil Rights Acts, we would never have experienced Jim Crow. The firing of teachers is made at the local level, and often results from cuts in federal support (continued)
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass." is a quote by Isoroku Yamamoto, Commander-in-Chief of the Imperial Japanese Navy during World War II.
Secondly, the 14th and 15th amendments were only printed on paper. Central goverments can't end racism. Malcolm X and Dr. Martin Luther King never advocated for growing the size of central goverment to end it ethier.
Kapan60 2 years ago
Modern military weapon technology has progressed far beyond anything Admiral Yamamoto could ever imagine. A single 21st-century American aircraft carrier could easily defeat the combined armed forces of all participants in WW II given a sufficient of missiles, bombs, and bullets. And untrained individuals armed with civilian-grade rifles and shotguns could never withstand trained opponents armed with modern military-grade equipment. (continued)
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
The 14th Amendment is the source of what you likely consider the bulk of your liberties. The 15th Amendment empowered American minorities. Don't dismiss them. They form an important part of our Constitution.
The role of the federal government is not to end racism, as noble a goal as that might be. Rather, the goal of the federal government is to protect individuals from racism when possible. (continued)
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
The views of 20th-century African-American leaders are insignificant to the size of the federal government. The role and size of our federal government depends upon its Constitutional limits and federal statutory law (and sometime a little of the common law system we inherited from England)
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
As for the Fed, a careful history will show that it has usually saved far more jobs than it has ever cost. In fact, the highest unemployment in our history occurred in part because a very conservative Supreme Court and two Republican presidents played a major role in reducing its powers during the 1920s.
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
The Federal Reserve was created in 1913. Even Ben Bernake admitted the Great Depression was caused by the Federal Reserve for decreasing the money supply to the People.
We've had small depressions before due to bank failuers, but never a full decade. That was caused by the banks gaining total control of our nation's money supply.
Kapan60 2 years ago
If Bernake claims the Fed caused the Great Depression, he lacks the economic knowledge required to run a lemonade stand. Trust the economic and history books on this topic. Look it up for yourself.
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
Ben Bernake is running more than a lemonade stand, he's running the Federal Reserve and continuing to print money like it's nothing.
Kapan60 2 years ago
I'm fully aware of who Bernake is, and I serious doubt that he said that the Fed caused the Great Depression.
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
KalachakraandOBeast 2 years ago
Thanks for that, er, interesting list, Kalach.
Be sure to say your prayers and take your meds before going to bed.
LarcheOsborne 2 years ago
@KalachakraanOBeast: I'm LMAO at your lame bullshit.
The 2005 translation of the very earliest Book of Revelation shows the number clearly to be 616, not 666. The 2005 translation was made on a 1700-year-old papyrus recovered from the city of Oxyrhynchus in Egypt, and deciphered by a palaeographical research team from the University of Birmingham (UK). The team was led by Professor David Parker, considered to be the worlds foremost expert palaeography.
Pwnd.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
batshit bachman is of course, full of batshit.
the representative she's slandering has long been on board for the senate version of CHR.
and the judgeships take MONTHS to go through, not overnight. repug senator orrin hatch has praised the judicial nominee in question, and the nominee has been appointed to utah state positions by gop govs. he is dean of University of Utah's law school.
bachman has, what, a g.e.d.?
batshit bachman is guilty of slander and needs to be censured.
KataVideo 2 years ago 5
Grayson sure jumped into fake *ss, crying for those who "die because they don't" have FORCED PRIVATE INSURANCE, professional politician mode fast.
The next time some *sshole holds up a bill, and the rest of them don't come running back to fix the problem-LIKE FOR THE BANKER BAILOUTS, you can lose your unemployment and go to jail for not paying your PRIVATE health INSURANCE bill.
NOT ONE of you f*cktards has read either parties bills. BOTH force corp insurance with criminal penalties.
bigc028282 2 years ago
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Grayson is a total NUTBALL!
Fact is Nancy DOESN'T have the votes!
If she did it would be on the Presidents desk by now, and all this WHINING on the part of Obama and the Democrats BLAMING the republicans is nothing but a BUNCH OR CRAP.
Sorry DUMMYCRAPS, the American people are ENGAGED NOW! We are watching everything you do and say!
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago
@NoCensorshipYT
all of you losers are "nutballs"
fistfullofhope 2 years ago
@NoCensorshipYT
You have Sarah Palin as your wallpaper.
'nuff said...
Karlfalcon 2 years ago 5
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@Karlfalcon
You are a stupid Obamunist.
Nuff said.
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago
@NoCensorshipYT: You do realize that Bachmann and her family have been collecting Socialist style farm subsidies for years right ... Sounds to me like she's a closet communist.
ZuchinniOne 2 years ago 3
That's called "food stamps".
MrHelldogger 2 years ago
@ZuchinniOne: She collects $250k a year in subsidies.
Now that's what I call 'Welfare for the Rich'.
Burn the Bitch.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
I just adore how you types have to make up retarded contractions in order to insult people.
How bout this one:
Your dear sweet little Sarah is a failure and a quitter. If not for her I probably would have voted for McCain.
Stuff that in your pipe and smoke it, you bilious ideologue.
Karlfalcon 2 years ago 2
@NoCensorshipYT: You're the jerk collecting all the thumbs-down on this thread.
Sub-pathetic.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
Republicans do nothing but turn speculation into fact! She has no idea what the President discussed with this person, every word out of her mouth was pure speculation!
hunterswine 2 years ago 2
The kettle calls the pot black
inflateyourtires 2 years ago
those are Fox News Talking Points.
JerezJulio 2 years ago 2
Lol. Exactly.
Anywhere outside of FNN they'll get called out on the bullshit because they don't have the network commentators backing them up.
Karlfalcon 2 years ago
If the President is offering someone a position as a way of buying a vote for healthcare then it is an issue and she was right to bring it up. no matter if you want healthcare reform to pass or not if that is what he is doing, buying votes, then it is wrong, not that the reform is wrong his actions to get it done are. It just so happens that this instance of possible corruption is taking place at the same time the healthcare reform debate is taking place.
breannae 2 years ago
@breannae The thing is anyone who buys what Bachmann is selling is really not a person who can be taken seriously.
integral 2 years ago 2
Sure it might be a legit issue, but take in account that she is known for lying.... but also bea in mind that the question wasnt about corruption it was about health care, bring up the alleged corruption at a different time, she doesnt lack for tv coverage.
tavadon777 2 years ago 2
Grayson don't take shit from nobody.
Richardgwm 2 years ago 5
'This is pretty serious.'
Yes, and what does it have to do with healthcare?
mw2000 2 years ago 3
An Investigation into something that has happened yet?
Tmc39 2 years ago 2
He said -
We need healthcare for americans regardless of how we get it or how destructive the bill is.
inflateyourtires 2 years ago
Prove it. I can't wait for all the shit that Bush and Repubs did in his dynasty to come forward. We'll find he was a puppet who did what the corporations wanted, ie: Guns for money and oil for free. I'll take a little bribe to get healthcare if that's what it takes to get around these repub dipshits.
Philinspaces 2 years ago 2
The whole system is corrupt,as much as you want to dismiss EVERYTHING this woman says she talking true.
Mostly all the people in power are bought by corporations and are serving them,not the people they were elected by.
volumedealer1 2 years ago
volumedealer, I'm afraid that when you say Bachmann is "talking true" you're letting on that you're poorly educated and apparently clueless about what she has said. Adult education classes for you. kid.
integral 2 years ago
Corruption...ah,who cares,not really important subject. [/sarcasm]
volumedealer1 2 years ago
Would you care to offer some proof, some evidence that what she says is true. Or are you just another blathering Fox true believer?
integral 2 years ago
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Grayson is a liar himself, so between these two you might as well watch another show because neither one has a close relationship with intellectual honesty
LeGioNoFZioN 2 years ago
I love Alan Grayson.
ericzum 2 years ago 4
Grayson has big balls! Seriously, one of the few politician's I like.
RtFusion 2 years ago 5
Bachmann belongs in a mental hospital! She has the iq of a small rat!
celmser 2 years ago 10
@celmser: That's unfair!
Small rats are much more savvy than Bachmann.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
I feel sorry for the citizens of Minnesota. Bachman is a loon. Have you ever heard her say even one thing that made any sense?
redcloak676 2 years ago 12
@redcloak676 why?? a majority of them voted for her...
EFAIR3 2 years ago
That is why one could feel sorry for them. Just imagine being dumb enough to vote this person into office. Yikes.
integral 2 years ago 2
@EFAIR3
I see your point. I guess they should suffer the consequences as long as they vote for her.
redcloak676 2 years ago
@EFAIR3: They should. But we shouldn't have to. Bachmann is sub-pathetic.
Silberdachs 2 years ago
I just started doing this recently, especially since you Obamatrolls have it down to a Science.
Typical Liberal hypocrisy.
Do as I say, NOT as I do.
LOL!
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago
shut the fuck up god your annoying. your no different from the trolls your trolling.
nchorekchyan 2 years ago
OK, Young Turk Moron, anything you say.
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago
ohh wow, you got me, i'm registered as a subscriber to one channel that i visit like once every 2 months... ya got me you fucking hillbilly.
nchorekchyan 2 years ago
Ok,
I'm from Chicago Il.
THAT makes me a hillbilly
Hope you don't come back for a while.
Too many ignorant people like you on YT.
NoCensorshipYT 2 years ago
Wacky woman.
wowamonn 2 years ago 5
wacky woman but she has a point for once, assuming she isn't distorting what happened.
mrdumpster 2 years ago
@mrdumpster
Given her track record, that's a huge-ass assumption.
xTheOxx 2 years ago 4
correct
volumedealer1 2 years ago
Grayson's the man!
lunaehmaz 2 years ago 3
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he's a scumbag
volumedealer1 2 years ago
@volumedealer1 she's a scumbag
jasonsadventure 2 years ago 4
oh stop whining, volly, you're embarrassing yourself.
integral 2 years ago