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  • Hyperventilation isn't from having too much oxygen. The problem is that you are breathing out too much CO2, which changes the acidity of the blood, causing psyiological problems.

    His son may well have been hyperventilating, as it is often brought about by stress and fear. I agree however that if the oxygen masks were not working, the passengers would have passed out within 40 seconds. It probably wouldn't kill them though, as the descent to 8000' would be low enough for the air to be breathable.

  • He is stupid!!! Should thank the flight crew they saved his fuck*ng life. Someone please shut him u!!!

  • the two main rules during a decompression are: one, sit down, and two, get oxygen. If crew are standing in the aisle when a decompression occurs they are supposed to sit on a passengers lap if they have to. this shows how important that rule is and also shows why the crew werent walking around the cabin and taking their masks off to make pa's.

  • oxygen masks only provide a small trickle of pure oxygen (hence the name) and no-matter how well trained the cabin crew are, they are still going to be frightened aswell. If they were on their jump seats when this happened they would have put on the oxygen masks above the jump seat, not the portable oxygen masks. and they knew there wasn't enough oxygen to breathe in the cabin so im sure they were reluctant to take them off and stand up.

  • As Delboy would say, "What a Plonker"

  • i have had delays because of bad weather or due to much traffic in the air, but i cant be bothered, ryanair isn't responsible for that sort of things, even if its my holiday, i just relax and think for 10 euro incl. if fly to london, stockholm,rome that's brilliant thanks to ryanair is have a chance to see the world for such a low price!

    if you travel for business and you have something to complain i think you should pay more and get another company or a private plane!!

  • and your point is? boo hoo you stayed on the plane for 3 hours, we have had delays on singapore AL and emirates for 12+ hrs dosnt make them crap tho,you got where you wanted in the end?,why fly with ryanair in the first place if you are so unhappy you booked it not us? yes its a low cost airline and its turning in to one of the bigest european airlines, it ill keep expanding,affordable yes! safe very! ps:i would be quiet happy to chuck u out of the rear door if you were a moaning pax on my plane

  • thats what we all wanted - to get off! Noone sits on a plane for 12 horus going nowhere, stop talking rubbish. Your plane? Since when did you own it? Ryanair and that other crap airline, rubbishjet, have taken over all the slots so the problem is, many of us dont have a choice. And if oyu fly through STN its even worse. I know, thats not ryanairs fault.

    I do my level best to avoid ryanair, its crew and its pax, just not always possible.

  • well unless the plane was not at the stand theres no reson why you could have not gotten off they cant force you to stay on UNLESS you plan to get back on the same flight, yes my flight with singapore ailines was delayed by 12 hours so we were all sitting at the airport, even tho they new the day beofore tha the flight was going to be delayed! u say its not ryanairs fault so why you rashing them? u do have a choice to fly else where but lets guess to expensive? haha

  • I meant the problems at STN arent ryanairs fault.

    Delays are aprt an parcel of flying, we all know that. But sitting on a cramped 737 for three hours going nowhere is not on. We were at teh gate but they wouldnt openthe doors ( they eventually opened the rear doors when it got too hot). They were hoping to fly to STN - like I said, after an hour they should have lets us off. And no, quite often we dont have a choice. Even easyjet have got better. Ever heard of SouthWest airlines? You're worse.

  • I never said i "work" for ryanair but i do live with 4 of there pilots and I worked as CC for 8 years as posted above, just to let you no CC can not keep you on the plane if you are on the stand so next time it happens and you want to get off then off load your self, dont threaten tho but just stand up and say i want off then you will just be classed as an unruley pax,

  • actually ryanair is WORLDS biggest international airline (pax wise) check the iata website if you dont believe!!! cant argue with the biggest airline!!!

  • Like a bus? I think not. A short flight from Eindhoven to STN, about 45 minutes, was diverted to LTN due to fog at STN. OK, no big deal. Except we stayed onthe plane for over three hours before we were allowed off. Any questions from pax were met with "if you want to complain go to the website". We just wanted to get off and go about our business, was that too much too ask? After an hour its time to give up.

    New slogan for Ryanair: Ryanair - Every expense spared! F*** the passengers.

  • i agree with huneybee25 its because of the fatal spanair flight why every little thing that happens now is in the news! i fly ryanair regular!and i think they are great i see it as a bus you hop on and they take you where you want to for a really good price, and things like this can happen in every plane, i think you are scared when it happpens, but everything went well, they are all safely at the ground!!!

  • Fucking dickhead. Hasn't got a clue. If this was any other airline, you wouldn't have heard about it.

  • just reading through your dumb ass Q i have worked for 2 diff companys emirates and virgin and they also have had the same probs yet nothing was mde public why? because it wasnt a big deal, and I Always fly Ryanair on my days off, they maintain there planes better than any where else, facts are planes are ment to fly not stay on he ground, and when of live with 4 of there pilots I think we are a little more clued up to what you think you are,,

  • ygdkkgjvfd your such an idiot in fact not only am i writing to clarify that my self and by the looks of be01386 being CC are not just coffie makers, we are there for pax saftey and we did not go through weeks of training for nothing, the selection can take months in certain companys so its not as easy as you seem to think what do you do? maby your the plane spotter?

  • Dear Pen Hadow:I was sorry to hear of yr death from lack of O2 on the Ryanair flight yesterday.Very sad Oh?Yr not dead?the supply wasnt working,u said& the descent took11 minutes u must hav been burning a lot of energy,spreading A&D among the PAXs in yr function as Leader of Men.Good lungs,then.Ah well:next time fly BA,Im sure u cn afford it& thell know how to treat some1 who Makes a Difference(although if u new What Was What,youd realised ths applies more 2 the RYN crew flying yr plane than u

  • + the fact that nobody knew what to do..next time maybe they will try listening to the safety demo instead of talking the whole way through because they think they know better.

    correct me if im wrong but does it not say "Pull down on the oxygen mask for a steady flow of oxygen" It doesnt come out like air conditioning. And if peoples oxygen masks didnt work they would of become unconscious and not been taken to hospital with slight ear pain!!!!

  • i know i have been winding him very very funny. you are 100% correct

  • This guy really annoys me, does he not realise that the cabin crew also need to be on oxygen as well as himself?

  • Oh so you wont to fly on older a/c with a lower safety record and probably arrive late?

  • age isnt that important. Maintenance is. And decomp can happen on the newest of planes. Its one of those things. And the pressure Ryanair puts on its planes and staff probably makes it more dangerous. Door handle.

  • Yes and the maintenance is completley up to JAR-OPS specification cant believe you could think an airline can let those standards slip. I wouldn't say there is a great deal of pressure on the staff you can only do the flights as quick as the a/c can go and you do your best to get home early for your benefit as well as other ppl's. As for the pressure on the aircraft i believe its called cycles actually and if it were to affect the aircraft then the number of cycles would be limited i am sure.

  • did I ever suggest Ryanair planes weren't maintained properly? No.

    I just said that the staff are rude.

  • but you implied it didn't you

  • Pen Hadow is a complete and utter idiot. He is simply scaremongering to raise his public profile!

  • i think he told it how he saw it. just how hard do you pull the mask? as it doesn't blast air how do you know its working? and the media jumped on him, if it were Mr J Public would we be even having this conversation? Mr Poder, you are a door handle.

  • you know its working because after 20 seconds you are still in useful concioucness!!

  • you are such a bell end. Still can't spell!

  • just let you no that i am cabin crew have been for 8 years,1,it is a saftey procedure when the cabin looses presure that evrey one leave there masks on INCLUDING the captain and FO dont forget they are the imortant ones that need the o2, they can not take off there mask in between to anounce it would become a hazod then, once the plane is at a safe level the captain the would make and anouncment, the crew then no its safe to remove there masks,,so plane spotter i think not, its just plain facts!

  • were you born and idiot like hadow or have you practised? priority is Aviate (if your stupid which i can presume you are that means fly the aircraft), Navigate (avoid the aircraft whilst your doing and emergency decent), Communicate (atc first then cabin crew to give a nits briefing then pax) which is what he did, come back when you can give an educted comment!!!!

  • in case you forget, theres nearly 200 people behind you, a few words of comfort would go along way. If it were a terrorist bomb the plane would be in bits, the pilot knows it isnt a big deal. So why do the staff have to be so lairy? To give some excitement to their mundane lives? A little bit of power?

    If a plane is going down its all over anyway.

    You door handle.

  • wow not that close to 200, ofcourse its a big deal something had happened to the structural integtrity of the a/c. The staff weren't lairy or atleast i haven't seen that reported (probably carried that over from your ryanair bashing)no the pilots aren't like that and until you work in this industry you wont know. ever the optimist aren't you!

  • how many pax can a 737-800 carry?

    how much do you know about aeronautics?

    ryanair staff are rude from o'leary right down to the checkin staff.

  • 189 but look how many were on the flight(research), enough to be gaining a PPL and progressing onto CPL and eventually fATPL, and there is your basic misunderstanding of ryanair it is the individual that is rude and also the checkin staff are working for other companies in most places! your anger is mislaid with ryanair

  • oh you talk to lots of flight deck then what with the locked flight deck door policy? yes i have flown many airlines and i condsider them all to be the same other than the fact that with all the other airlines i have travelled with they have been delayed! of course they contract them but why is that ryanair's fault that the other company cant discipline there staff properly?

  • actually its not i am afraid most handling agents have there own company names on there nadges and there own company hi-viz and come to think about it they dont actually have anything that says ryanair on it. There you go again presuming things you really should stop this no i dont live on a council estate actually and care to enlighten me on what it would explain. and Hadow actually said there was no warning of the decompression of course there wasn't or do BA fly with a crystal ball now?

  • How many BA flights have you been on in the same circumstances as this Ryanair flight? None I bet. The crux of the matter is that this pilot saved the lives of everyone on board that aircraft,sure he may have been a bit curt but at what point did he know for sure that the aircraft was going to make it back to the safety of an airfield? Until that plane was on the ground no one will have known what caused the decompression(terrorist attack,cargo door coming adrift,etc).He did a great job.

  • Knows more than you by the sounds of it!!! well the pilot was probably a little bit shaken and busy seeing as he had just gone through a decompression as well!!! No not employed on rudeness just you expect them to be rude so whatever they do in your eyes they are rude. yes it would be easier to not have to deal with customers but that is the same wherever you work with customers (what a stupid comment that was probably the most stupid so far)

  • obviously you either havent travelled Ryanair or you havent flown a proper airline. The customer comment was tongue in cheek - maybe you havent even worked. If none of th above are true then you really are a door handle.

  • oh no i travel ryanair most days really ususally about 5 days of my working week. Oh yes i have worked and do work now in that industry!!

  • and that makes you an expert? you serve coffee.

  • what makes me an expert? i thinkn you are missing my primary role pax safety and security, in an emergency who are you turning to? medical problem who are you turning to? i could go on but cant be bothered for an uneducted person

  • curt doesn't say he was rude, "brief; concise; terse; laconic."(from the dictionary) so he said what had to be said and then got back on with diverting the a/c to limoges i am sure they were happy to be back on the ground!!! dont really care about spelling at the moment.

  • oh yea ryanair do around 1100 flight daily around europe and in 2007 they carried just over 40 million passengers alone with out any major issues, they have good experianced pilots and new planes, its only because of the fatal spanair flight that evrey one is making a big issue out of small things go figure,,

  • this guys full of shit, if the h2o wasnt working then he wouldnt have been talking now he wouldnt be alive theres a 12min cont suply to the pax witc is more than enought for the plane to be brought down to a safe level, pilots get trained for this sort of thing and a decompression would be scary yes but what do you expect the pilots to give a live comentry while they are following procedures to get evrey one to saftey?, and if this guys so 'big" then what was he doing flying with ryanair any way

  • sorry my mistake i put h20 what a dummy i did of corse mean the o2,, having a blonde momnent lol

  • Typical uneducted attitude!! when you have got an informed opinion come and talk to us!!

  • Scray shit - not looking forward to flying with ryanair in a few weeks.

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