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  • The amount of energy required to burn HHO is higher than the output....I'll let you figure out the rest SCAM

  • if it works gas will go up so high

  • wonder what complications oif any ocean water has on it, might be great for sale boats for generation & windless days

  • why is he in jail?  he sounds like he's to illustrious to bother with such a thing!

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  • @minase0906 No, that's not my viewpoint, and I never said that.

  • Everything coming out of his mouth is a lie. For one thing if heavier elements are getting "transmuted" to lighter elements, they all better run. That's called a fission reaction. Either there would be a nuclear explosion if critical mass is reached or there a whole bunch of radiation coming out of it.

  • @Nomoreidsleft Yep. He is claiming a nuclear-powered engine. "No carbon at all". For it to be have converted even the initial squirt of crude oil into "some other substance" would have produced SO much energy they would have been blasted to bits.

  • new then,old now..yep works& stan meyers dead because of it so be wise if u plan too market kits. but a pinoy did it, china&a version of this will soon be sold&i hope they sell car in the usa! i want 1..hehe u?.we will run our cars on a garden hose or sea water with or without car, gas&oil companies!..not electric!why they resist? we can run our houses too&get off the slave route 2 electric lines& gasoline! the consumer revolt is on&its just matter of time we win..

  • Everything but oil is completely a scam. Exxon is a good for the environment. Buy oil and shop at wal-mart. Believe in government. Corporations love you and are reluctant to take your money.

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  • Seriously, I've largely given up. There are too many of them and they are too dense to understand.

  • are you people retards? I can hold a handkerchief up to the exhaust of my car and there is no "soot". There sure as hell are all kinds of emissions, including carbon compounds. are stupid people getting louder, or are there really that many of you?

  • @kenfo0 There really are that many of them. They REALLY do think that George Bush and Exxon are what is stopping this "technology", rather than basic laws of nature.

  • @somedudeinva the reason it is frightening is if people are so easily duped, mass communication simply exacerbates the damage they do. how to be heard above the din of stupidity?

  • @kenfo0 Hey sexy, how are you doing? I an just wondering what I should wear tonight for when me and you are doing it on the bed? Cheers to you cutey!

  • @kenfo0 dumbass they are smelling it

  • @SurfersGlory dumbass: same difference. what's it like to get your GED at 30? Couldn't pass the test? Makes sense, after your stupid comment. STFU loser.

  • @kenfo0 when you are talking about "soot", it is a visible substance, why would you smell for soot when if its there you can clearly see it. So there is quite a vast difference..dumbass

  • You gotta love the red/black shirts!

  • Paul Is HERE rexresearch

  • Paul Pantone is NOT in prison!

  • Meu Portugal - tributo a Paul Pantone que após inventar motores movidos a 80% de água, foi preso.

  • if this works..release the plans public

    or its gone

  • illegal offshore tax shelter activity involving over a million dollars

  • why in prison? what did he do?

  • @777wt Defrauded investors.

  • why cant this be mass produced!!!!??

  • @olson5252 Because it is a FRAUD.

  • it is an ion/plasma energy

  • i wish all cars can run like that !!!

  • Don't you just live people who have no understanding of chemistry or physics. Yes there is radiation coming from the pipe, its called Thermal radiation.

  • Try looking harold bates methane engfine- really works! This guy offers you dealership for 20 000 US!!!

  • Prison is quite a good place for scammers, and that's the only reason this guy is in there, for defrauding honest folk. It's a case of lots of claims of which no independent test results are available, something that we've seen before along the lines of Dennis Lee, Daniel Dingel and Stan Meyer. They all used charisma and pseudoscience to push their scams to people who have grade school understanding of science.

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  • Hydrogen reactions seem interesting yet there is no hydrogen in this machine. If plants take Co2 and exhale Oxygen in there photosynthesis a silly presumption would be its burning Co2 which surely is and i am sure many professionals would back me up here be a silly assumption. Einstein says "the only thing limiting my genius is my education" so its always good to keep an open mind on things like this. that, that is impossible may actually not be, only you are told it is. Break the rules!

  • There is nothing strange about this, but this process does not get rid of the carbon it just filters it. You get an oil hot enough it will burn add water to hot oil it will also burn that's not a mystery that's not a ooh plasma that's simple theory. So you have a EGR bubbling through fresh fuel then heating it up weather its a heavy oil or not heated up it will burn. Its a sure way of increased efficiency you still going to get an emission less/kg maybe. co2 will surely still be present

  • @fireicer

    Its a plasma fuel reformer. Paul has had university testing that verified the carbon was missing, not filtered. I believe he had Sandia labs test also with similar results. Must be some new form of nuclear reaction, not a hot reaction. Jean Chambrin made a similar device with similar results.

    Its hard isn't it, to learn something new when you are sure what you learned before is all there is to know.

  • @narivasant That is such bullshit. None of this "data" is published or available for review. And Jean Chambrin's rambling incoherent patent makes claims of discovering elements with no description of how he claims to have detected them.

    All Chambrin's patent did was demonstrate that any idiot can patent ANYTHING and receive not even so much as a proof-read in terms of review or scrutiny.

  • and yet it is true, transmutation was verified at Sandia Labs and BYU physics labs.

    Paul might not know how to say things the way scientists like to hear them said but it is true. Even conventional fuel reforming with a plasma works great and many universities have shown we could all be getting better fuel economy but the auto makers refuse to use the proven technology.

    google search:

    "plasma fuel reformer"

    and

    "steam reforming"

  • Please tell me where I may find the research describing the transmutation found in this.

    You DO realize that he is describing nuclear reactions? The actual energy yielded from what he claims is going on would FAR exceed the output you are seeing. The radiation from such nuclear reactions would fry everyone involved.

    "No carbon at all" - the temperatures and pressures required to transmute carbon into oxygen are beyond our own sun. Do you REALLY believe that is going on in his motor?

  • @somedudeinva

    Yes, I realize it is some form of nuclear reaction, not normal hot fusion or fission. BYU would not publish. They feared another Cold Fusion fiasco. Jean Chambrin got similar results with a similar device before Paul did. See patent text:

    v3.espacenet. com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO82­04096&F=0

    remove extra spaces

  • @somedudeinva

    Yes, I realize it is some form of nuclear reaction, not normal hot fusion or fission. BYU would not publish. They feared another Cold Fusion fiasco. Jean Chambrin got similar results with a similar device before Paul did. See patent text:

    v3. espacenet. com/textdoc?DB=EPODOC&IDX=WO82­04096&F=0

    remove extra spaces

  • @somedudeinva

    sorry if you get this multiple time. youtube appears to be blocking my reply.

    @somedudeinva

    Yes, I realize it is some form of nuclear reaction, not normal hot fusion or fission. BYU would not publish. They feared another Cold Fusion fiasco. Jean Chambrin got similar results with a similar device before Paul did. See patent text:

    WO8204096

  • I have read that patent. Have YOU? You DO realize that a patent doesn't prove anything - they are only reviewed for novelty, not whether or not they work.

    It is so full of gibberish and typos that this patent is proof that no serious review of these patents exists.

    Example

    the necessa_ ry obtention of the molecules strike, as intensive as possible. The bigger in intensity and molecules the strike is, more calories will be produced and consequejn tly more potentiality it w ll have.

  • @somedudeinva

    He is French and his original patents are in French so I'm not surprised to see typos in the English translation. Personally I'm more interested in learned new discoveries in science than I am at picking things apart to find any excuse possible to ignore science discoveries.

  • Dude -

    My point was that this patent obviously hasn't been through any kind of review if garbage like that gets through - so basically you can claim any old crap and it gets patented - this proves NOTHING.

    Do you not understand what he is claiming in that patent - that he is spewing out all these transuranium elements - even 131! The highest yet made is 116 or so. The energies required to form this are so incredible that the people standing nearby would be incinerated.

    It's just crap.

  • Of course.. all this data but it is not published. So then how is it YOU somehow have access to it?

    Come on... show me the data... real data. I am quite open minded when it comes to seeing real data - but not just ridiculous claims with absolutely NOTHING to back it up.

  • @somedudeinva

    It looks like good data to me.  Some people see crap even when something new and important is shown to them. Too bad for you.

  • That's not data, buddy. That's just claims. I can say I invented a way to turn pepsi into gold but unless I publish my DATA for scrutiny it's just a claim.

    Saying "I detected element 131" means nothing. I can say that. I just did. You have to say HOW and you have to show the DATA.

    I am a REAL scientist and this patent is a joke. It includes ZERO data to support his arguments. Without data, it's just garbage.

  • @somedudeinva

    I'm a real engineer, a senior staff engineer, 27+ years at an extremely large and extremely high tech company. I find the data very informative and useful, especially since Pantone got similar results from a similar device and Pantone appeared to not even know about Chambrin's research at the time.

  • Well I'm sorry to say this but if you can't distinguish claims from data then I think we're done here.

    I find it hard to believe any educated person wouldn't see through this immediately.

    If you are a real engineer you will understand this:

    1. He claims the carbon from the crude oil is entirely consumed and converted to oxygen (since oxygen is the main product in the exhaust gas, he says). Since crude oil is ~85% carbon, that little squirt of oil he gave it is at least 10 g of carbon.

  • he should have his own wikipedia page......

  • @primo6711

    He did several times but the wiki rulers kept taking it down every time people tried to put him there. They said he was not a notable person.

  • why it never came out? if you have invention these days run to foreign countries if you wanna do something , if you stay in us either ull end up in joil or dead lol

  • @SHOOTER0072003 It' no laughing matter.

  • I built this and it works. A fellow experimenter Leo Umila put one on a turbo diesel and he is getting 4X the mileage. My friend Mike in the USA put a sight glass on the end on his GEET and he can see a blue plasma glow around the rod while it is running.

    see more about it here:

    flickr. com/photos/37257699@N03/

    and here:

    tech.groups.yahoo. com/group/VortexHeatExchanger/

    remove the extra spaces

  • CRAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

  • WHY IS HE IN PRISION ?THEY WERE NOT HAPPY RITE ? PEOPLE ONE THING FOR SURE IF YOU WANNA INVENT SOMETHING and make it in production get out of usa and do it

  • see the story about on this and his GEET website. - - just an ad hominem fallacious argument.

    They personally abused this man, where his health also deteriorated considerably comperd to this video.

    He should be compensated asap. 1,000 $ per day of incarceration is the average. He deserves also over that amount in lost opportunity (interference with probable economic advantage, as well as for the physical and mental pain and suffering.

  • flickr. com/photos/37257699@N03/

  • did he really go to jail and what for? that was not mentioned.

  • If I remember correctly, the GEET company lawyer wanted to get paid and said Paul could pay him with more GEET stock. The lawyer said he could make the papers for Paul to sign. Paul signed the papers and then the lawyer went to the SEC and district attorney claiming that Paul just illegally issued more stock in the company. But Paul didn't know better. He was just following his lawyer's advice. But I haven't heard all sides to the story and might not be remembering exactly correct.

  • Yes he did, they came up with some kind of lie, payed off the judge and now he is in a mental detention center of some kind.

  • Actually, he got out a while back and has been teaching classes in Oklahoma, USA. more information is at geet. nl

    remove the spaces

  • It is using the power of the Vacuum. He got it.

  • I have test this basic ides, and it works. Look at my video...

  • Speaking of alchemy, what process "transmutes" the carbon into a lighter element? What is the "chemical" process that can change one element into another? What process outside of nuclear fusion or fission can change one element into another element?

  • I will send his foreign site to your channel. Cannot put it on here as UTube won't let me.

  • you have to put extra spaces,

    This man teaches how to do it. go to URL:

    geet. nl

  • Its not outside fission or fusion, its just not a typical "hot" process. Its some new nuclear process that needs more research. Jean Chambrin of France made a similar device in the 1970's and his also had transmuting elements as documented in his patents.

    FR2302420

    WO8203249

    WO8204096

    Paul Pantone's invention is the real deal. I've built it and it works well.

    To learn more about more conventional versions of the same , google search :

    "steam reforming"

    "plasma fuel reformer"

  • maybe the plasma?

  • Did you know that Paul has 500 Patents he owns, including this one? The Oil people wanted them ALL. He said NO so they trumped up charges and locked him up. Since his son had a Foreign Website they could not stop him and that is why he got out! He also is known by way of one thing he made. The level that does everything is his and has many off shoots to it now. Listen to the webcast and you will hear it all. Guys like him are a Treasure. They sked if he was Tesla in another life. Maybe so!

  • According to the United States Patent Office, there are only TWO patents issued to someone named Paul Pantone, one of which is for a log splitter.

    Oh, wait, the government and big oil have managed to suppress his patents, right?

  • HI Todd. Yes that is correct. He has the log splitter one and one for a level that does all sorts of things which has many off shoots now. They wanted to own ALL his work though so Lord knows where they are. Hopefully in his possession and he is soon away from the USA so they cannot hurt him anymore.

  • Sorry, he can't have 500 patents and 2 patents, unless you are referring to foreign patents. So where can I confirm these 500 patents? They should be a matter of public record.

    Also if he has all these patents, why are there no patents registered in his name for this amazing device? He has no plausible explanation for how this device works (although I love the reference to transmutation.) Is Paul a modern day alchemist?

  • Paul is out finally about 2 months ago. I have his radio interview on my channel under energy suppression. You can listen to it there. It was on CoasttoCoast with George Noory. My soninlaw can make this work and I assure you it it not Rocket Science. Paul wants the world to have this energy free but they tried to suppress him by throwing him in the loony bin. Luckily his Son forced his release.

  • Many, many....MANY astounding energy devices have been designed and built by private idividuals over many decades.

    If they prove viable and have the potential for removing the common man from the 'grid" system owned by the wealthy, they are either bought out, their plans/patents stolen, the inventor and his family/friends are physically threatened or, in quite a few cases, they are murdered.

    The incredibly rich have NO intention of EVER allowing you to cut ANY of their 'lines' to your home.

  • For those who are so stupid about this great discover, stay stupid.

  • What on earth is he talking about? He's talking balls. It must be a filter at the other end.

  • He is talking about a fuel reformer.

    google search:

    "fuel reformer"

    "plasma fuel reformer"

    "steam reforming"

  • Shatnerdy is right on Tesla.

  • Have a look at  "H20 plasma cutter"

  • is he realy in prison ? where did u listened that ? can you prove it's not a joke that he is in prison ???? O.o

  • who is paul and why is he in prison?

  • He went to prison for defrauding investors.

    I don't know if he's still there.

  • See the plasma inside a GEET fuel reformer at about 8 minutes into this video:

    youtube. com/watch? v=RTmN5EEcJ5Y

  • If you want to learn how to make one of these then go to:

    tech. groups. yahoo. com/group/VortexHeatExchanger

    without the spaces.

    There is nothing for sale there and there are no links to anything for sale.

    Just a group of open minded researchers.

  • What on earth makes you think that I am defending this fraudster? besides I am not interested in the things Tesla said but more in the things Tesla proved!

  • but please, someone tell me, what is stopping everyone in the world from doing this today? Every person that owns a gas engine could use this technology right now. It does work, right?

  • Basic physics and chemistry are stopping it, not Exxon, not GWB, and not Paul Wolfowitz.

  • You are right! If my father was in jail, I would move to France right away... Tens of thousands of dollars have went into getting him out. What would be better than an Automotive X prize? You have heard of the space X Prize? Burt Rutan won it by sending a man into space. What better way to get him out of jail? Stand out there on national TV, and scream, "My fathers invention works!"

    All he has to do, is contribute technology. There is no cost. And since 34,000 people use it, should be easy...

  • Pantones son contacted me and I told him he should contribute to the X Prize and get publicity. He said he had other priorities. If you believe in this technology, surely you want it to get publicity, right? So if the inventor passes up a chance to show his invention to the whole world, what does that tell you?

  • The inventor did not pass up the chance. You talked to the inventor's son and Paul's Son's highest priority is getting his father out of a mental hospital where his father has been unjustly incarcerated. He probably does not have the funds to be doing a lot of other things right now.

  • there is so much TECHNOLOGY thats has not been develop because it would greatly benefit mankind but would be a great money lost to the rich and energy compnay such as oil . Like how much money and powere you need before you have enough

  • anyone has this or similar actually RUNNING on his-her car?

  • Google: automotive x-prize

    There is a $10 million reward for a fuel efficient car. Registration is closed, but

    you can click on the online form link and tell them you have technology to contribute. Let us know how it goes

  • Its not on a shelf. People are doing it eveywhere. If you guys believe in it, you should all have done it by now. What is stopping you? What is stopping eveyone from doing it?

  • THE WORLD WE LIVE IS GOVERNED BY GREEDY PEOPLE THATS WHY THESE TECHNOLGIES SLEEP AWAY ON SHELVES

    Maybe the financial crisis is a good thing for these technologies

    ALL those rich greedy bastards are scratching their heads now

  • theoneagain, you didnt reply. you have one on your car, right? Go for the X prize....

    Or maybe the greedy people keep you from posting your secret info

  • how can it be suppressed if its all over the internet and so many people are doing it? How many websites contain this "suppressed" information? What is stopping everyone from doing it? And if enough people do it, who cares if the government is against it? And what does the government hope to gain by keeping him in prison? His secret is already out... A friend of mine knew this guy that knew a guy that bought a 1970 Buick that got 100 miles per gallon. GM came and took the car away.

  • Our scientific community has a long history of dismissing new ideas. I just heard about a new cold fusion process

    called SuperwaveFusion. It seems 2 independent labs have replicated their process! You should check this process out.

  • Old news buddy, i've had one of these powering my flux capacitor since the 80's.

  • only god knows how this works

  • if you really want to run your car on water and burn hydrogen go to: thegas4free.blogspot,com

  • The mistake toward the end of the video, carbon dioxide and monoxide are invisible gases, listen to the speech !

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  • where to get the plans for this full cell ?

  • go to this yahoo group to get more information and remove the extra spaces in the text:

    tech. groups. yahoo. com/group/VortexHeatExchanger/

  • why cant i find any of these magic geet engines under an operating load? seems whooky

  • Please watch these videos:

    youtube. com/

    watch?v=uoLFt_cUa_0

    watch?v=oD9htnk5iqo

    watch?v=i1oE-zqdF9Q

  • ok so norwegian75 is a government agent most probably, that tells me how important is for them that these things remain underground as much as posible, and how important is for as many people find out the truth, searc on goolgevideo for zeitgeist and esoteric agenda, people, wake up !!!!1

  • Woah!! Hahaha! You fucking moron!!!1!one

  • asshole

  • hehe what a bunch of buttnuggets, this MUST be fake because everyone knows an engine cant possibly run from 1986 with out new spark plugs, jesus!

  • I've seen a lot more patents over a 2 year period, most work very well. Companies usually don't waste patents on bad products. I have seen the very first catalytic converters designed were actually for cracking intake gases using exhaust heat instead of only for exhaust gases, but the gas mileage was too high. I compiled the actual pdf files of over 200 patents as part of a zip file.

    Google search for

    vortexheatexchanger.zip

    or an older file:

    fuelreformertechnology.zip

  • It is called fuel reforming.

    Do a google search of

    fuel reformer

    or

    steam reforming

    or

    hydrogen enhanced combustion

  • Yeah, okay. But if it is that easy, why isn't every car manufacturer in the universe doing just that?

    Don't give me that oil company conspiracy shit: The car companies in USA are BEGGING for money to SURVIVE this exact moment. The one single thing they are requested to do to get cash, is to make new, fuel efficient smaller cars. Don't you think they'd grab the chance of halving the fuel usage by sticking in 4-5 extra components?!

    Get a bigger tinfoil hat. Remember, aluminum doesn't cut it.

  • LOL!!!! You are so naive. I have see more than 200 patents specifically for on-board car fuel reformers that give better gas mileage and cleaner air. Most are owned by oil & auto companies. The patents' text documents the testing and proof that they work. MIT made their own fuel reformer and tried to force it to market with help from Arvin Meritor. One Equity Parters bought out the company division and its design for 300+ million US$ and they terminated its deployment in cars.

  • (I FUCKING LOATHE THE YOUTUBE COMMENTING SYSTEM.)

    I looked up, and you are right - there are plenty of such patents. Using Google's patent search, search terms "hydrogen gasoline", I got dozens. You should refer to actual stuff when stating such.

    Here's a couple: 4003204 @1975, 4421072 @1981 5178118 @1990, 6655324 @2001

  • What is interesting with the above-mentioned patents, and really all the patents I browsed through, is that they do not state that the engine will run 50% more efficient overall or anything like that. What they state is that on "low and mean loads" of the engine, you get into a problem with the gasoline/air mixture, and thus waste more gas.

    So the system only works on low and mean loads - when you need full power of the engine, the engine should be run on pretty much plain gas.

  • So, what I think, is that this is a system for idling and very low-load scenarios. Which isn't necessarily a bad idea - this is exactly what e.g. Prius tries to fix too.

    However, one starts to wonder whether this basically has much to do with the battery: If the engine effectively "runs on battery" when idling/low load, and then the battery charges back when running full power - there isn't, at least, much conservation of fuel in the total.

  • Don't be so confident of the car companies drive to advance technology. They have bought up patents in the past just to sit on them.

  • Give me examples, for fucks sake!!

    It is just to use google's patent search system, or any other of the probably 2000 patent search systems out there. "They've bought patents in the past" - WHICH ONES, please?!?!

    Tinfoilers, the fucking lot of you.

  • if you dont sell... they will destroy and then kill you...

  • A patent only lasts for so many years, typically 20. Many of the patents in question have lapsed decades ago. They are free to use.

    Why don't you make a company, retrofitting vehicles with this super-saving HHO stuff. There already are such aftermarket companies for gas-drive ("autogas") and for making Priuses plug-in.

    So go ahead - make a profitable HHO retrofit company - or _shut the fuck up_.

    You are all lunatics. Fanatical conspiracy theorists.

  • Pantone has been in maximum security prison denied ALL legal rights for 3.5 years cause he would not sell...go fill up your 1895 internal combustion engine and pay the bill on your 1910 electric grid.. Morons like you love to suck the cock that,s being shoved up their ass.

  • Dude, I checked you up: You're wearing huge tinfoilhats, aren't you? "Chemtrails"? HAHAHAHA!

    Do you realize that no-one is taking you folks seriously just because all this bogus shit you folks are touting?

    Why don't you instead present facts? Give some cover for your statement about this Paul Pantone dude! Links, references, what-the-fuck evers. Just _stating_ things is just damn dumb.

    What's your take on 9/11, btw?

  • this is 1920 technology troll .. In many ways we are stuck in the 1920 by dictate of the monopolies.. and yes... 911 was a a controlled demolition to bring on all these phony wars for total global control.. Google eustace mullins world order video , very revealing

  • fuck you :D

  • any liberating technology is denied or crushed, especially in the biz of finance , energy , drugs.. this is an oligarchy

  • This is really funny! It's .. like MAGIC!

  • You should do your homework, water has been used as fuel long before oil!

  • Oh, please explain - how is that?!

    Water, you dumb fuck, cannot EVER be used as fuel.

    If you have separated water into H2 and O2, you may however RECOMBINE it and release energy.

    But, you dumb fuck, how do you think it was separeted? Yes, correct - by STICKING ENERGY INTO IT.

    This is so boring to explain to dumb fucks, but the point is that Hydrogen can effectively be used as a "battery": You "charge up" by splitting water, and then you "use it" by recombining it.

    "Do your homework". HA HA!

  • what was he in prison for?

  • If there oun't be dump people like arrowhead83 (should be DUMPhead83) and 777truthsetsufree these kind of projects would be used more in evryday life and the inventors would not stay in prisons or die.

  • yet another great mind. please someone do something for all these great minds i am finding out that anyone with a real good invention to get us off oil or provide simple clean and free energy iether get food poisond killd or disapears with out trace doesnt take a rocket scientist to fuigure this one out i just pray that someone or some people do something for these people how can we regain control on how we live or the quality  of it the more i learn the more my eyes open

  • Please take some time to read all the old comments before making a comment asking how it works or expressing dis-belief.

  • so has this guy been murdered yet

  • What i don`t understand is why such machines as lets say 200% efficiency machines/generators are in a grey area.

    Aren`t there any studies that say: This machines were tested by scientists all over the world and they don`t or do work for shure.?

  • R.I.P. Eugene. You will not be forgotten.

  • I read that you can NOT get more energy out of something then you put in in the first place.

    Then how comes that nuclear reactors are profitable?

    Does the production of a nuclear bomb use the same ammount of energy that it unleashes?

    What about solar, wind, wave, ocean and stored water energy?

    They seem pretty much free to me.

    I`am not a scientist so i`am just asking for answers.

  • nuclear reactions are chain and also destroy matter unleashing MC^2 energy aka the energy stored in matter.

    solar harvests energy from photons at like 11% efficiency

    wind wave and similar energy comes from harvesting kinetic energy from a moving liquid or gas

    Think about it the reason this doesn't work is because the maximum amount of energy released by h2 mixing with o is the same amount of energy required to split it and since nothing is 100% efficient it fails

  • It does work & for more than 100 years. The energy required is the otherwise wasted heat energy of the exhaust gases. That heat is absorbed by the endothermic steam reforming chemical reaction that cracks both hydrocarbons & water vapours. Lighter gases then carry more potential energy into the engine than longer chain hydr0carbons. google search "steam reforming" & "plasma fuel reformer". This man's & Jean Chambrin's unusual versions also have unknown nuclear processes taking place.

  • Looked at steam reforming its cool but it still runs on 75% hydrocarbons and the only examples i found used methane. checked out plasma fuel reformer also cool but that runs entirely on hydrocarbons no water involved. its a cool idea i will give you that but i am not sure about hydrogen providing enough force (on top of other problems) to run an engine effectively check out current hydrogen combustion engines. finally really skeptical about an unknown nuclear process so until it becomes known..

  • you are just seeing the tip of the iceberg. wiki uses methane as example but it works with a wide range of hydrocarbon. Don't close your eyes to so many experimenters who verify they have working systems using more water. google and download FuelRefomerTechnology.zip to see over 200 patents for on-board fuel reformers, many owned by auto and oil companies. Many have proof of better fuel economy and cleaner air in the testing data in the patents' text. But they won't sell cars with them.

  • sorry about the typo:

    google search for: FuelReformerTechnology.zip

  • Atoms heavier than Hydrogen are created (up to Iron) in stars through a process called fusion. the heavier elements including nuclear elements are created through the super nova of large stars - when we use them for energy it's called fission. The continent of North America and some African nations are rich in Uranium. The stigma of the "A Bomb" and the fact that nuclear waste is deadly prevent US exploitation of this cheap energy source. We (U.S.)now have a designated spot for this waste BTW.

  • Also, the thing you're refering to, about no free energy, is called the law of thermodynamics. Your typical lead acid car battery works through the chemical process, Your average electrical house fan works by manipulation of the electromagnetic (aka electromotive) force, Your incandescent light bulb works because the filament gives off heat and light, both of which are part of the electromagnetic spectra. Rockets work cause Hydrogen is in one tank - O2 in the other, burn nicely, exhaust is H2O.

  • Personally I'm skeptical about running stuff off of water, It takes more energy to seperate the chemical bond of Hydrogen to Oxygen, than what you get out of it, when you burn it. But I digress, There may be a more efficent way to do it. I've heard some are experimenting with the use of frequency harmonics (electromagnetic, not audio), to break the H2O bond. But seriously, if there ever is/was a breakthrough, I don't think it will ever come to market - the fossile fuel industry is a monster.

  • i dont get any of this hahah

  • ΩΩΩΩ

    DO I have One's attention!?

    I WOULD HOPE SO.

    This conflict between FREE ENERGY and FREE ENERGY Suppression will CEASE. THEY shall NO longer suppress our NEED for Free energy (near-free energy generators).

    WE WILL NOT LET OUR FREEDOM BE UNDER AUTHORITY BY ANOTHER's GREEDY WANTS AND BELIEFS.

    WE IN BILLIONS MUST UNITE AS AN "ORGANIZED, UNDERSTANDING SOCIETY" IN WHICH NO ONE or NO GROUP(s) SHALL HAVE POSSESSION OF ANOTHER'S NEED FOR ENERGY (SURVIVAL), (TO EXIST).

  • Educate yourself, dumbass. There's no such thing as free energy.

  • Sun, Wind, H2O...

    There's so much free energy,

    It costs some to set up these systems but its free.. of course there is.

  • They aren't "free energy" in the sense we're talking about.

    To borrow Adam Savage's analogy, those are "free to me energy", not free energy.

  • well I have a solar panel. that's free energy.

  • That's "free to me" energy.

  • it's all free until someone charges you for it!!!

  • Haha... yeah, sort of... and sort of not.

    For example if you want to run a wind farm, great. The wind itself is free, but you need to get your hands on some land and set up turbines.

  • Don't these people know that CO2 and CO are colorless, odorless gasses...?

  • yes, so what?

    tests were done both at exhaust emissions testing stations and at university labs.

  • and dont YOU know, that CO2 is not a pollutant? and has very little or NOTHING to do with Globalwarming?