I read once somewhere that if humans had not evolved, that Octopus would have evolved to be number one on the food chain. The more of these I watch, the more I can see that being true.
@ashrocks87 ... There's an analogy there... If you find a bone and you go hunting with it, you are using a tool, and you didn't make it... The octopus found the shell and he is using it to hide himself from predators... That's using a tool.
A guy comes rushing at you with a fifty feet medievel flare, you grab a shield to protect yourself, your using a tool. A shark comes raging hell on the octopus, the octopus "drops" some paint on the shark's eyes and runs to the shell, conceiling itself, tool.
fail. hermit crabs are invertebrates. hermit crabs utilize shells from dead sea snails, etc. as a hideout/defense. octopus isn't the only invertebrate that uses tools. I'm sure there are a couple insects out there who do similar tool-use (can't think of them at the moment).
@SabioZorro However, hermit crabs do not carry shells that they are not currently using. Retaining a tool that one is not currently using is arguably a different/more humanlike order of tool use.
This makes a lot more sense if you're familiar with some of the stuff about chimps using sticks to get termites out of a termite mound, and the debate over whether or not they pick up termite-fishing sticks when they are not currently trying to catch termites.
Where do people get the misconception that 'octopi' is correct. 'Octopuses' is most certainly preferred (at least according to every relevant source of science and literature--e.g. Chambers 21st Century Dictionary, Fowler's Modern English Usage, Oxford English Dictionary, Merriam-Webster Dictionary...)
"Forget about the coconut shell, I like the camera better". I wish I could have seen the video of the camera person trying to get the Octpus off the expense underwater camera :-)
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its not that theyre hiding in shells, its that theyre making use of objects in their environment to better their lives, which is seriously advanced as intelligence in animals goes.
@wellwisher106, well would you call your house a tool? Besides some crabs live in shells don't they and we don't pretend that they're some intelligent tool using species thingy.
Now if the octopus had made a screwdriver out of stick and was using it to make a mechano hat i would allow it : )
this video was first published on new scientist and then show on the bbc website TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
why don't you guys catch up with the times? what is the point is me subscribing to your youtube page if I'm just going to see videos a few weeks after they have been posted all over the net?
Very interesting.May be the US Navy will be interested to recruit them to spy on or sabotage enemy ship.How many genes -we the humans share with them?
Aww octopodes are so neat looking, and kind of cute in a weird way. I think squids and octopodes are prime candidates for evolving intelligence in the future because of the dexterity of their many limbs. We used out opposable thumbs to use tools. They could use their tentacles to use tools.
I've heard that Octopi have the potential to become a sentient species and that if it wasn't' for their short lifespan, they likely would have developed to be one of two most intelligent species on earth.
its pretty smart but i dont think its a tool. its being creative with shelter, a tool gives a mechanical advantage otherwise anything which makes it own shelter can be using tools.
It certainly is a tool! Think of the shell providing the octopus with something its own body cannot: protection, shelter, a hideout even. In terms of a mechanical advantage, it could be argued that the shell may increase the octopus' chances of survival, and reproduction, thus providing it with an advantage.
Fire is a tool, condoms are tools, books are tools, therapy is a tool.
the little guy just built an underwater house out of nothing but coconuts; i would like to see you perform the same feat of ingenuity; technically, he is a more proficient architect / engineer than you are
I disagree, Burnerbuddy. Science is the study of everything which we can see, feel, know. It is a way for us to understand the universe and everything that abounds within this possibly limitless cosmos.
Religion is the belief in something which goes against any natural laws which we thus far understand. While this does not mean that "supernatural" may not become natural (with understanding), it certainly does not place the hypothetical above the known.
did you know that an octopus can squeeze through any hole larger than it's genitals? j/k .. could the hermit crab's shell be thought of as a "tool" ? the definition of tool needs to be stated. technically if the hermit crab secreted the shell then it wouldn't count, but i'm pretty sure that they scavenge for new ones, even if made out of plastic.
I can't wait for people's faces when they finally admit the truth that there isn't any difference between humans and animals.. we're mammals, for fuck sake!
I'm not sure if you were the one I was refuting but someone was saying that "people were just the same as animals."
now I'm not using the complexity of our creations as proof that we are not, but just because a bird uses a rock to kill it's prey and octopus uses a coconut as shelter that isn't proof that they are as intelligent or equal to humans.
Why do people always refer to humans intelligence when they point out the main difference between animals and humans.
Do you honestly believe that the intelligence of animals is equal no matter what specie they come from?
Anyone who had more than 1 pet can tell that not only different species have different level of intelligence, but there are huge differences between them individually too.
no, people don't believe all animals are at the same level of intelligence. the difference between us and animals is sentience. imagination. the ability to ask why and make choices that don't depend on our environment.
you have no way of proving your statement. we move forward thru time constantly w/ no way of going back and testing your claim. however, my actions are not defined by my surroundings. for example: just because I am attracted to girls doesn't mean I'm going to be a rapist. there are lots of guys w/ similar backgrounds of the same race as me who are rapists. why am I not one? because I choose not to be. an animal, however, would simply act on the instinct.
First of all, someone being a rapist could mean a hormone disorder, secondly, you there is no way the (fictional) person you're talking about has the exact same background and environment as you do.
I don't like labeling people, but I have a feeling that you have never had any pets (..other than fish).
Once you do, you'll be amazed just how much time animals spend thinking and planning.
Christianity did a great job subtracting humanity from mother nature in the middle ages.
how about this then: I could do my homework, I have homework due, my parents were very clear that doing my homework brings success, but I'm arguing w/ someone on youtube on the difference between octopi and humans. at any second, I could stop writing and do my homework, is this my choice, or are my hormones forcing me to do this?
You will act as the system you got used to and grew up in taught you; What you will do is what you benefit from the most according to the value system you live in. Out priority systems are different, this is why I don't feel bothered when I have to explain something to another person.
And please don't try to little me down - if you argue with someone, don't make up false facts: I'm not talking about the difference between octopi and humans.
@DRealfriknKeenan there is a difference between sheltering in something and using it as a tool. A tool is something that requires forethought and planning in order to be useful, hermit crabs walk till they see a shell and move in. Big difference.
@DRealfriknKeenan the octopus didn't see the shell and climb in, it had a half and looked for the other half. it created a plan to put them together. Having a plan, it takes one half to the other half and applies them to it's predetermined use. this is tool use. a crab does not shape a shell, it simply uses it. a crab does no assembly, applies no plan, and does not alter what it finds.
it didn't say in the video that it didn't find the two together. it didn't show the octopus looking for two. this isn't an assembly plan. it's instinct, very simple instinct.
your putting too much thought into this. what about birds' nests? they've been putting twigs, mud, and spit together for years and nobody's freaking out about that.
hermit crabs do something similar with discarded snail shells don't they? I've also seen an octopus use a discarded bottle in a similar manner. It's too bad their limited life span means they can't teach their children this trick.
last time I checked Hermit crabs and all other crustaceans were invertebrates as well. An invertebrate is an animal that does not have a spinal column, including insects, crustaceans, echinoderms, mollusks, sponges, jellyfish, and a bunch of other things.
@wakeangel2001 i agree; they need to define what tool is. it would e more impressive if the octopus took on a discarded construction helmet rather than a coconut. the coconut is in the same ballpark as the hermit crab's shell as far as i'm concerned.
@nwstraith Technically, yes as it is not part of their natural biologic structure. Which begs the question Is a spider's web usage a form of tool use also? How about spiting venom? Skunk spray? What about flying? Or a turtles shell?
What a charming creature.
CountYorik 1 week ago
I've seen a guy do the same thing...
but with a cardboard box.
Koops2245 2 weeks ago
fried calamares are soooo good!
Nudelsalatbomber 2 months ago
@Nudelsalatbomber Ahem...Calamari is squid
sk8jtX69 1 month ago
I read once somewhere that if humans had not evolved, that Octopus would have evolved to be number one on the food chain. The more of these I watch, the more I can see that being true.
tankatraue 2 months ago
Fabulous!!!
petlovergirll 3 months ago
@CarrotsforBananas LOOOL
trilerkiler 4 months ago
SUCKY SUCKY!!! 0:45
Oozingzombie57 4 months ago
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unda da sea!
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down where its hotta, unda dee watta,
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acr225 5 months ago
He said "octopuses"...
cptzac 6 months ago
@cptzac "octopuses" is the traditional plural form of "octupus" and more accepted than "octopi" or "octopodes"
cadiazm 4 months ago
OCITYCAR!!!!!!!:D
nimi118 10 months ago
0:32 I SEE YOU!
AmusingYeti 11 months ago
They're getting smarter!!!
situlo 1 year ago
shells arent tools, they're skeletons of snails and made of calcium!
ashrocks87 1 year ago
@ashrocks87 What was stone for humans then? Magmatic rocks?
petruz1993 1 year ago
@petruz1993
what? are stones formally shells of snails?
ashrocks87 1 year ago
@ashrocks87 ... There's an analogy there... If you find a bone and you go hunting with it, you are using a tool, and you didn't make it... The octopus found the shell and he is using it to hide himself from predators... That's using a tool.
A guy comes rushing at you with a fifty feet medievel flare, you grab a shield to protect yourself, your using a tool. A shark comes raging hell on the octopus, the octopus "drops" some paint on the shark's eyes and runs to the shell, conceiling itself, tool.
petruz1993 1 year ago
@petruz1993
your point is?? oh i know, everyone other than is stupid.
by the way, yeah i get what you're saying.
ashrocks87 1 year ago
@ashrocks87 Other than who? Me? No, i'm just discussing with you...
My point is that They Are Using a tool. They aren't wrong when they say that...
petruz1993 1 year ago
@petruz1993
and im just saying that shells are made of calcium. nvm
ashrocks87 1 year ago
fail. hermit crabs are invertebrates. hermit crabs utilize shells from dead sea snails, etc. as a hideout/defense. octopus isn't the only invertebrate that uses tools. I'm sure there are a couple insects out there who do similar tool-use (can't think of them at the moment).
SabioZorro 1 year ago
@SabioZorro However, hermit crabs do not carry shells that they are not currently using. Retaining a tool that one is not currently using is arguably a different/more humanlike order of tool use.
This makes a lot more sense if you're familiar with some of the stuff about chimps using sticks to get termites out of a termite mound, and the debate over whether or not they pick up termite-fishing sticks when they are not currently trying to catch termites.
TheCulturegeek 1 year ago
Where do people get the misconception that 'octopi' is correct. 'Octopuses' is most certainly preferred (at least according to every relevant source of science and literature--e.g. Chambers 21st Century Dictionary, Fowler's Modern English Usage, Oxford English Dictionary, Merriam-Webster Dictionary...)
porsche911sbs 1 year ago
you said octopuses, should be octopi
rcfp2006 1 year ago
octopi not "octopuses"! sorry, i had to say it. cool behavior!
analogWeapon 1 year ago
"Forget about the coconut shell, I like the camera better". I wish I could have seen the video of the camera person trying to get the Octpus off the expense underwater camera :-)
suzlady1 1 year ago
Pretty smart.
I still like spongebob more, though
staalman 1 year ago 5
really cool
g0neja 1 year ago
lol
1OOCOEUR 1 year ago
Beavers are still cooler!
vonPickles 1 year ago
Beaver versus octopus? Really?
Yossarian06 1 year ago
um...beavers...i tried octopus but it was too messy..
vonPickles 1 year ago
First??? I've seen so many Animals from this channel's video uses tools!
Vincebandicot521 1 year ago
first invertebrates.
CamronJLB 1 year ago
"Invertebrets"
XD
cammigurlgonewild 1 year ago
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lol, octopus armor, whats next a skeleton swordfish's head for a sword to kill off sharks?
shadowace421 1 year ago
So basically, they are the new workforce?
Yippie!
Eventmidnight 1 year ago
fucking awesome.
magiccatalyst 1 year ago
HOLY SHIT!
tools! next thing you know theyll carve out spears out of coral reefs.
were fucking dead!
TexTK 1 year ago 2
and thats how hermit crabs came to be
Tpuah87 1 year ago
beatifull
DuarteOnTheLine 1 year ago
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melniwa2007 2 years ago
that is pretty damn smart.
Squish888 2 years ago 10
delicious
RedCherryT 2 years ago
They're getting too smart! Kill'em all! XD
rockraven5000 2 years ago
@rockraven5000 Too right! :P
VoidHawkz 2 years ago
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theunkownside 2 years ago
Yes octopi could potentially take over, as with dolphins and jelly fish. Noooo!
iZephyr100 2 years ago
imagine if human go extinct and octopus gain consciousness...
BovrilKetchup 2 years ago
"octopuses"
*octopi
GiantDoucheNG 2 years ago
Hehe..
MaticNebojsa1992 2 years ago
actually, the new narrator is that same octopus
eyhexs 2 years ago
Octopus in a half shell!
rebel4evr114 2 years ago 2
Octo power!
scytheboy 2 years ago
great stuff!
maybe this will prompt some people to realize the beautiful fact of evolution.
probly not, though.
GodlessHippie 2 years ago 4
We could only hope, good sir. We can only hope.
Llynok 2 years ago 4
lookit dat dere squid genus! he's hidin' under dar cocernut shell. 'e must be surm kinder geeneus skwid i reckon
mulduvar 2 years ago 3
this is sexy. the octopus and coconuts give me nightmares though... so this isn't sexy
redbulborb 2 years ago
cthulhu fhtagn :O
Kommissar85UK 2 years ago
"im just a pawn in marijuana's mellow game of chess"
You are a horse, remember that.
Protleskorker 2 years ago
Still a ways from developing WMDs.
Piscivorus 2 years ago 3
Clever!
Tressco 2 years ago 3
Is anyone else surprised since this is not new information? Octopi have been using tools for a long time now.
PakaNoHida 2 years ago 12
Good. I was hoping to see an intelligent comment.. this is nothing new.
daominous 2 years ago
intelligent nature
marioua18 2 years ago 2
thats cool. i liked it when the camera got too close.
sorry8140 2 years ago
So if this is the first known invertebrate to use tools, what then of the hermit crab?
Hefotos 2 years ago
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thats instinct not a sign of intelligence
paleobc65 2 years ago
You're instinctively moronic
TyatKU 2 years ago
i was answering a fucking queston not talking about the octopus you retard
paleobc65 2 years ago
@TyatKU i was saying how hermit crabs are instinctive fucktard !!!!
paleobc65 1 year ago
thing is, all hermit crab do that; but only some, particularly clever octopii do this; emergent behaviour of sorts
eyhexs 2 years ago
its not that theyre hiding in shells, its that theyre making use of objects in their environment to better their lives, which is seriously advanced as intelligence in animals goes.
squidmanlol 2 years ago
It depends... an African or European octopus?
Topyftw 2 years ago 4
i feel like doin that sometimes
thesacrament77 2 years ago
Ummm tools, is that the right word? I don't count a coconut shell as a tool : )
jon2cool 2 years ago 2
@jon2cool why not? every thing that makes task easier is tool
wellwisher106 2 years ago 3
@wellwisher106, well would you call your house a tool? Besides some crabs live in shells don't they and we don't pretend that they're some intelligent tool using species thingy.
Now if the octopus had made a screwdriver out of stick and was using it to make a mechano hat i would allow it : )
jon2cool 2 years ago
LOL! You've got 2 coconuts and you're bangin' 'em together! Was it an African or a European Octopus? 5/5
WhipKick 2 years ago 4
an african octopus is a non-migratory invertebrate...
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago 2
@DRealfriknKeenan Maybe two could carry it on a line?
jbrun009 2 years ago
he could grasp it by the husk
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago 2
What is the average water speed velocity of an unladen octopus?
WhipKick 2 years ago 24
2.6
Snow4Life222 2 years ago 2
it's not a matter of where he grips it. it's a matter of weight ratios!
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago 3
suppose 2 octopi carried them together?
leaffan27 2 years ago 3
Eastern or western?
xrockthe40ozx 2 years ago
An African Octopus maybe, but not a European one. That's what I'm on about.
anymaru 2 years ago
@WhipKick European Octopus, or African?
bmbirdsong 1 year ago
@WhipKick is that an African or European unladen octopus?
DreamingOfAtlantis 10 months ago
@WhipKick Is that an African or European unladen octopus?
DreamingOfAtlantis 10 months ago
It's kind of like a hermit crab.
themishkin 2 years ago
Anyone else reminded of Mass Effect? Intelligent octopus like creatures? :D
Awesome. Nature is beautiful
MelleB90 2 years ago
this video was first published on new scientist and then show on the bbc website TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
why don't you guys catch up with the times? what is the point is me subscribing to your youtube page if I'm just going to see videos a few weeks after they have been posted all over the net?
puretroubleman 2 years ago
most of these videos are out of date
rabbitsib 2 years ago
Very interesting.May be the US Navy will be interested to recruit them to spy on or sabotage enemy ship.How many genes -we the humans share with them?
kamur 2 years ago
they don't fit in our genes, too many legs.
roidroid 1 year ago
Aww octopodes are so neat looking, and kind of cute in a weird way. I think squids and octopodes are prime candidates for evolving intelligence in the future because of the dexterity of their many limbs. We used out opposable thumbs to use tools. They could use their tentacles to use tools.
TheMerlinOfAR 2 years ago 3
@TheMerlinOfAR ,Yes,they will be called Octoid and they will call us Humanopithecus.
kamur 2 years ago 2
lol; but seriously, it will be a species of intelligent beetle men who will inherit the earth
eyhexs 2 years ago
I've heard that Octopi have the potential to become a sentient species and that if it wasn't' for their short lifespan, they likely would have developed to be one of two most intelligent species on earth.
djtron1x 2 years ago
haha i think it should learn how to use knives so that it can chop its self up in to my sauce pan
fuckingghey 2 years ago 3
you don't.... you don't know howto use knives?
how do you defend yourself from sandwiches?
roidroid 1 year ago
its pretty smart but i dont think its a tool. its being creative with shelter, a tool gives a mechanical advantage otherwise anything which makes it own shelter can be using tools.
harlosik13 2 years ago
@harlosik13
It certainly is a tool! Think of the shell providing the octopus with something its own body cannot: protection, shelter, a hideout even. In terms of a mechanical advantage, it could be argued that the shell may increase the octopus' chances of survival, and reproduction, thus providing it with an advantage.
Fire is a tool, condoms are tools, books are tools, therapy is a tool.
VenomFangX is a fucking tool! ;-)
bettySwollox 2 years ago 3
the little guy just built an underwater house out of nothing but coconuts; i would like to see you perform the same feat of ingenuity; technically, he is a more proficient architect / engineer than you are
eyhexs 2 years ago
Great video along with a nice voice. Honestly, i wasn't even watching your videos anymore because of the female narator's voice.
Good job NS.
yatah 2 years ago
I disagree, Burnerbuddy. Science is the study of everything which we can see, feel, know. It is a way for us to understand the universe and everything that abounds within this possibly limitless cosmos.
Religion is the belief in something which goes against any natural laws which we thus far understand. While this does not mean that "supernatural" may not become natural (with understanding), it certainly does not place the hypothetical above the known.
Belief is not higher than knowledge.
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I think I heard somewhere that octopi can open a beer, drink it, make burp and crush it on forhead while say Ohh Yeaaa!
sucazza 2 years ago
I think I heard somewhere that octopi can open jars.
InYourFaceNewYorker 2 years ago
nah man that's just Octopus propaganda.
roidroid 1 year ago
the kraken will mess you up. and your little ship too!
ShaolinViolin 2 years ago
LOL! That one hid itself in an entire coconut shell XD
Smart little sucker XD
gotriceandshrimp 2 years ago 3
Yeah which is why I said !=
(!= means not in standard programming language, I know that not everybody gets that so my apologies).
ObliviuxProductions 2 years ago
did you know that an octopus can squeeze through any hole larger than it's genitals? j/k .. could the hermit crab's shell be thought of as a "tool" ? the definition of tool needs to be stated. technically if the hermit crab secreted the shell then it wouldn't count, but i'm pretty sure that they scavenge for new ones, even if made out of plastic.
threelegduck 2 years ago
You already did a piece on this.
Plozen 2 years ago
@Plozen they did a piece on ambulatory octopi .. that were pretty coo
threelegduck 2 years ago
amazing footage
suprisepickle 2 years ago
lol, octopus armor, whats next a skeleton swordfish's head for a sword to kill off sharks?
shadowace421 2 years ago
an octopus just ran off to patent that.
roidroid 1 year ago
lol
shadowace421 1 year ago
0:41 "hey! who are you? stay away from my co-co-nut!" "Hey....what is this?" *pop pop pop* "What....what is this?"
maimingbetty 2 years ago
I can't wait for people's faces when they finally admit the truth that there isn't any difference between humans and animals.. we're mammals, for fuck sake!
thedevo01 2 years ago 3
yah cause the internet is basically two coconut halves put together funny.
"mammal" is just a classification. a dog isn't the same thing as a cat just because they are "mammals."
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago
Yeah and a lizard isn't the same thing as a tortoise just because they're reptiles.. what the fuck are you talking about?
You know, stating obvious facts like that doesn't necessarily make the rest of your sentence correct.
Where the hell did this "the internet is basically two coconut halves put together" come from?
You must be trolling.. you better be. Otherwise, if you're serious, I'm sorry for you, bro.
thedevo01 2 years ago
@thedevo01
I'm not sure if you were the one I was refuting but someone was saying that "people were just the same as animals."
now I'm not using the complexity of our creations as proof that we are not, but just because a bird uses a rock to kill it's prey and octopus uses a coconut as shelter that isn't proof that they are as intelligent or equal to humans.
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago
Why do people always refer to humans intelligence when they point out the main difference between animals and humans.
Do you honestly believe that the intelligence of animals is equal no matter what specie they come from?
Anyone who had more than 1 pet can tell that not only different species have different level of intelligence, but there are huge differences between them individually too.
thedevo01 2 years ago 4
no, people don't believe all animals are at the same level of intelligence. the difference between us and animals is sentience. imagination. the ability to ask why and make choices that don't depend on our environment.
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago
"make choices that don't depend on our environment."
So you mean you can make up or imagine any living organism without using any of the currently existing qualities?
People are not random. We're like computers that are constantly fed data.
If we really had the freedom of choice, that would mean, I would write something different if I rewound time.
I'm not saying that our future is "written down", but our behavior is a continuous pattern constantly created by our environment.
thedevo01 2 years ago
you have no way of proving your statement. we move forward thru time constantly w/ no way of going back and testing your claim. however, my actions are not defined by my surroundings. for example: just because I am attracted to girls doesn't mean I'm going to be a rapist. there are lots of guys w/ similar backgrounds of the same race as me who are rapists. why am I not one? because I choose not to be. an animal, however, would simply act on the instinct.
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago
First of all, someone being a rapist could mean a hormone disorder, secondly, you there is no way the (fictional) person you're talking about has the exact same background and environment as you do.
I don't like labeling people, but I have a feeling that you have never had any pets (..other than fish).
Once you do, you'll be amazed just how much time animals spend thinking and planning.
Christianity did a great job subtracting humanity from mother nature in the middle ages.
thedevo01 2 years ago 3
how about this then: I could do my homework, I have homework due, my parents were very clear that doing my homework brings success, but I'm arguing w/ someone on youtube on the difference between octopi and humans. at any second, I could stop writing and do my homework, is this my choice, or are my hormones forcing me to do this?
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago
You will act as the system you got used to and grew up in taught you; What you will do is what you benefit from the most according to the value system you live in. Out priority systems are different, this is why I don't feel bothered when I have to explain something to another person.
And please don't try to little me down - if you argue with someone, don't make up false facts: I'm not talking about the difference between octopi and humans.
thedevo01 2 years ago
Rape is a bad example in a human vs animal discussion. Few animals practice rape and are very serious about mating signals.
PondscumArgonian 2 years ago
soon they will make coconut cars and coconut cityes and coconut chemical weapons
positivoshow 2 years ago 3
saw this months ago
maulcs 2 years ago
Cute and terrifying in equal measure.
1Weemaryanne 2 years ago 2
this octopuses are baller
takid123 2 years ago
hermit crabs already do this and they're invertebrates...
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago
@DRealfriknKeenan
Hmmm. But is it regarded as a tool or a home?
phurphy 2 years ago
Yeah that's a good point...
Drummerboy7stix 2 years ago
@DRealfriknKeenan there is a difference between sheltering in something and using it as a tool. A tool is something that requires forethought and planning in order to be useful, hermit crabs walk till they see a shell and move in. Big difference.
kenandkids 2 years ago
how is that different than an octopus seeing a coconut shell and climbing in?
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago
@DRealfriknKeenan the octopus didn't see the shell and climb in, it had a half and looked for the other half. it created a plan to put them together. Having a plan, it takes one half to the other half and applies them to it's predetermined use. this is tool use. a crab does not shape a shell, it simply uses it. a crab does no assembly, applies no plan, and does not alter what it finds.
kenandkids 2 years ago
he could have found the two together, it's not hard to imagine.
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago
@kenandkids
it didn't say in the video that it didn't find the two together. it didn't show the octopus looking for two. this isn't an assembly plan. it's instinct, very simple instinct.
DRealfriknKeenan 2 years ago
The 2 bits of coconut shell are not hinged together.
The octopus found them apart, and put them back together. It takes some thought.
roidroid 1 year ago
yah yah sure sure
your putting too much thought into this. what about birds' nests? they've been putting twigs, mud, and spit together for years and nobody's freaking out about that.
DRealfriknKeenan 1 year ago
The video is about the first invertebrate to use tools. A bird certainly doesn't fit that category ;)
p41413 1 year ago
they don't carry the nests around with them, then turn them upsidedown and hide under them.
roidroid 1 year ago
so? I think putting a million twigs together in a bowl shape is a bit more complicated than carrying a coconut.
DRealfriknKeenan 1 year ago
cause this is a a dam octopus. obviously birds aren't stupid. relative.
craig123454321 1 year ago
right, ok
DRealfriknKeenan 1 year ago
One of these days we're gone find one ordering stuff from the internet...
shadman1911 2 years ago 4
teenage mutant ninja octopus!!
heroes in a half coconut shell!!!
amogenaro666 2 years ago 6
Haha! This just made my day!
quickgonzalez89 2 years ago 2
lol very smart things these are.
zkjgrty 2 years ago
This was already on the Nat. Geographic channel like a month ago. Anyway, its cool how octopii (Octopuses??) use this trick.
Tsylord 2 years ago 2
that was legit
shloppyboy 2 years ago 2
ninja octopi lol
AttackTofu 2 years ago
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CalvinDWalker 2 years ago 2
lol that's exactly what came to my mind when it came on the screen xD
wowsuperaddicted 2 years ago
lol at end
coolace108 2 years ago
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excellent work!
1888junkteam 2 years ago
hermit crabs do something similar with discarded snail shells don't they? I've also seen an octopus use a discarded bottle in a similar manner. It's too bad their limited life span means they can't teach their children this trick.
wakeangel2001 2 years ago
@wakeangel2001 first "invertebrate" animal. meaning it doesnt have a bone structure.
xxjacobxx3 2 years ago 2
last time I checked Hermit crabs and all other crustaceans were invertebrates as well. An invertebrate is an animal that does not have a spinal column, including insects, crustaceans, echinoderms, mollusks, sponges, jellyfish, and a bunch of other things.
wakeangel2001 2 years ago 3
@wakeangel2001 i agree; they need to define what tool is. it would e more impressive if the octopus took on a discarded construction helmet rather than a coconut. the coconut is in the same ballpark as the hermit crab's shell as far as i'm concerned.
threelegduck 2 years ago
octopus started blogging... Hey what happened to the old narrator?
Limited317 2 years ago
@Limited317
I guess too many people complained about her voice.
mooxim 2 years ago
she had a nice voice
DidntKnowWhatToPut1 2 years ago
@DidntKnowWhatToPut1
too many people disagreed with you.
mooxim 2 years ago
nice voice TY
teamforteress 2 years ago
Thank you so much for the new voice over guy. Seriously.
Thanx!
Awesome video... as always!
Krumbz2003 2 years ago
tea bagged camera
MustangGT520 2 years ago
Tool use? Are hermit crabs tool users for lugging about their home too?
nwstraith 2 years ago
Please define tool use for us all.
TheFolkUtopia 2 years ago
@nwstraith Technically, yes as it is not part of their natural biologic structure. Which begs the question Is a spider's web usage a form of tool use also? How about spiting venom? Skunk spray? What about flying? Or a turtles shell?
dude12nothin 2 years ago