Geoff has established a new NGO called Permaculture Jordan with another called Permaculture Jordan Valley on the way. USAID is sending us some money and JOHUD is helping maintain the project he mentioned in the video.
I am doing fundraising for the new project. There will be info on this at Permaculture Reflections at
Humans are still a keystone species. If you want the site to continue to produce the species desired by the designer, some input is required. If it were abandoned, however, the swales and trees would continue to do their work and life would continue on the site.
ok cool. So you could effectively green the desert section by section while being confident that a section won't just revert back to desert once you move onto the next one. But if you want to productively (and perhaps intensively) farm any section then it will need more constant attention - makes sense.
Assuming you designed within ecological principals, yes. It is reasonable to expect that some of the food producing species would remain for hundreds or thousands of years. But to keep this demonstration site as designed, it does require human input.
Also, the Kafrin area is not the richest place in the world. The site is watched over by a security guard. In these poor areas, there is such dire need that it is not uncommon for people to go in and take what they need...
Geoff has established a new NGO called Permaculture Jordan with another called Permaculture Jordan Valley on the way. USAID is sending us some money and JOHUD is helping maintain the project he mentioned in the video.
I am doing fundraising for the new project. There will be info on this at Permaculture Reflections at
permaculturetokyo(dot)blogspot(dot)com
TonyKaku 5 years ago
if this part of the desert is now "healed", then shouldn't it now be able to keep going on it's own without further maintenance?
roidroid 4 years ago
Humans are still a keystone species. If you want the site to continue to produce the species desired by the designer, some input is required. If it were abandoned, however, the swales and trees would continue to do their work and life would continue on the site.
TonyKaku 4 years ago
ok cool. So you could effectively green the desert section by section while being confident that a section won't just revert back to desert once you move onto the next one. But if you want to productively (and perhaps intensively) farm any section then it will need more constant attention - makes sense.
roidroid 4 years ago
Assuming you designed within ecological principals, yes. It is reasonable to expect that some of the food producing species would remain for hundreds or thousands of years. But to keep this demonstration site as designed, it does require human input.
TonyKaku 4 years ago
Also, the Kafrin area is not the richest place in the world. The site is watched over by a security guard. In these poor areas, there is such dire need that it is not uncommon for people to go in and take what they need...
TonyKaku 4 years ago
Great video. Amazing permaculture case study too.
Undersizeme 5 years ago