Atheism in the modern age is becoming the very thing it's against; a rapidly growing religion. When you try to convert people across the globe to an "ism," you are doing what religions are known for doing. Why does it matter what anyone else believes? I myself, am Christian and I feel like I am less religious than some atheists I know. Why? Because I don't care what other people believe. As long as no one treads on eachother's toes, why the hell should it matter? I think: TP&MS 4 president! lol
The tone of the God Delusion is bitchy and whiny? Seriously? They don't have to agree but that is just a cop out. Maybe they had trouble understanding it.
I don't think these two understand what it's like to present a beautiful argument with mountains of evidence only to have someone refute what you say without a shred of evidence. Compound that with years of experiencing that situation over and over and over, and I think you might begin to see why Dawkins' book may sound "bitchy" to some. I think Prof. Dawkins just cannot fathom why people tend to believe the most unbelievably stupid things. I share that with him.
lmao, ironic that Atheists can be just as or even more butthurt than religious people sometimes.
get over it. Matt and Trey have pretty much ripped on every religion in the book, and then when they finally get around to atheism and point out how bitter and obnoxious some Atheists are, you guys flip out.
Hardcore atheists get on my last nerve. Sooooooooooooo condescending to other people, judgmental and so sure of themselves. Hardcore religious people get on my nerves too just like that but I don't encounter as many of them in the social circles I usually run in.
Trey says he believes in A God; not necessarily a Christian God or whatever. Listening to this, it just seems like they don't really pay attention or care about any organised religion, atheism, whatever a lot of the time anyway. Trey cared more about the Wii.
Hey South Park makes fun of everyone. So when they finally make fun of atheists, we're going to bitch about it? No. South park is still one of my favorite shows.
@Runningjoels In my personal religion i believe that humans who believe in God(s) go to hell for being so stupid. That's my faith. I don't have/need evidence. The name of my religion by the way is TheDevilWroteTheBibleism. My parents believed this so I do too. All other religions are false and unbelievers are infidels. Have fun in hell.
wtf is wrong with you guys? "i dont like south park because trey and matt made fun of atheists" lol one of the reasons religion is made fun of so much is because they cant laugh at themselves and they get so offended. dont go down that path... im a firm atheist and i thought this episode was awesome. i love richard dawkins but their analogy of a kid telling others santa clause doesnt exist is kinda true. i can understand both sides of the point, and love south park more then ever.
@xnobody777x yeah just like every other christian, you tell yourselves lies to make you feel better. and just like most christians, you a cunt who jacks off on the bible and then shoves the bible up his ass and jerks off the passion of the christ cus you have a hard on for jesus.
@xnobody777x so you deny christ? it wouldnt show much faith to deny your savior just to win a youtube argument.... what is it? are you a christian or not? if you dont answer i take it as a yes, and you lose cus you jerk off to passion of the christ.
@Runningjoels well now that you ask, no I'm not denying Christ and the fact that you deduced that from "I never said I was a Christian" makes me worry about your mental status.. and as for jerking off to the passion of the Christ, only a sick-minded individual (such as yourself) would even think of that. Shame on you, sir!
@xnobody777x no i just thought you would be proud of your beliefs instead of implying otherwise. i on the other hand AM a proud christian and i jerk off to passion of the christ every night of the week. youre gonna go to hell for being ashamed of our savior and not being a true christian. youre gonna get raped by satans spicy weiner for all of eternity, in a miserable cycle of pain and humiliation. have fun heathen, ima be in heaven fuckin bitches! HAHA LOSER ASS FUCKTART, JESUS LOVES ME!
@Runningjoels Ok it was fun responding to a possible schizophrenic, but I'm going to get back to your ex-girlfriend now, she's starting to drip on the sheets!
@Runningjoels No, you're mistaken. She doesn't have HIV, she has IHV (Immense Horny Vagina), but it's ok it's a common misconception. And as for cyphlyis, it's a shame that you're ex-girlfriend would lie to you to keep you away from her, LOL!
@xnobody777x youre a misconception. your parents condom broke i guess, leading to conception and your burden of a life on them. they used a condom cus like you they werent real christians and you will all go to hell. but they would rather make a drum set out of your vital organs then look at your ugly face. but if they did do that, they would be put in jail. thats the only reason your parents put up with you. your useless, smelly, and fat.
Atheism gets shit on: You guys have a stick up your ass
So what you guys are saying here in the comments, is that you're disappointed in Stone and Parker because they don't believe in the same thing that you do? And that's a reason to lose all interest and respect for them? You guys are fucking hypocrites. It's absolutely disgusting.
Live and let live. Who gives a fuck who believe what. Stop being smug, pretentious bastards and take a joke.
@mdossantos047 It's pretty hypocritical of someone to make fun of the whole word for years, and when someone makes fun of THEIR beliefs it's suddenly wrong. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...
@mdossantos047 People are annoyed because they are missing the point! Relgion is the cause of much aggrivation in the world to put it mildly. And that statement about 'having fun beleiving in Santa' would be fine if all religious beleif was just 'fun'. It aint. Aside from the rape, torture and murder that it causes, it is also detrimental to education. Lets not forget opposition to live save research.
Suffice to say, get religion out of science and polotics, and we can shut up.
@mdossantos047 Both true and irrelevent. My point was that religion can be very deleterious to people and progress and simply pointing that out does not make you whiney or pretentious. As for '.. it'll be something else' I don't see why that should deter people from speaking on the subject, or trying to change minds to make the world better.
It sounds like "whats the point in washing the dishes? They'll only get dirty again!" logic.
@CyanideSovereign Getting too into one thing is not good, religion just happens to be one of those things. The people doing terrible things and doing it in the will of their "religion" are not and should not be held in example for all people of religion.
People get the same way about greed, women, power, etc. Attacking people just because they're religious is absolutely ridiculous and missing the point of everything you're trying to abolish
@mdossantos047 "The people doing terrible things and doing it in the will of their "religion" are not and should not be held in example for all people of religion."
I agree.
"Attacking people just because they're religious is absolutely ridiculous..." I agree.
But religions are ideas. Ideas should be able to stand against scrutiny. And you should be able to dispute peoples claims without people accusing you of 'attacking' them.
@mdossantos047 Live and let live indeed. One is likely to get one's panties in a bunch if the neighbour's a pedophile. Why not be upset that other people are being stoned to death in the name of religion daily?
The hypocrisy element is a valid point, I agree, but it's a very weak point. Furthermore; when Matt and Trey's strongest argument against atheism is "people need to chill out", then I can very much understand how people would be upset at their ignorance.
@riKringkast Nobody said they're against athiests. They even state that Penn from Penn and Teller is one of their closest friends. "Stoning" is a combination of extremism and a product of an environment. My grandmother is the most religious people that I know and she isn't stoning anybody.
Explain exactly how it's a weak point? If you're mad at religion for something that the vast majority of religious people don't partake in, then YOU sir, have the weak point.
@mdossantos047 The argument about stoning was intended to outline a very important point, and I'll quote Stephen Weinberg for this one:
"in the ordinary moral universe, the good will do the best they can, the worst will do the worst they can, but if you want to make good people do wicked things, you’ll need religion"
Religion invites people to an existence of non-thinking, wherein there is no need for rational explanations or moral justification. All you need, is for God to have your back.
It is hypocritical to revel in the "glory" of religion taking a bashing and go crying to mommy when the table's turned, you're right about that one. But when held up to all the horrible things religion has led to throughout history, the hypocrisy argument amounts to nothing more than a drop in the ocean of reasons to detest religion.
I'm sure your grandmother is a wonderful human being. Unfortunately, not all people are like her.
@riKringkast So, by stating that my grandmother is a good person and not all people are like her, are you basically saying that most religious people are the ones stoning people to death? Do you see the point that I'm making here? Sure, religion has been the cause for some terrible things, but those are extremists and do not apply to most of the population. Like most people cite the Westboro Church for the evils of Christianity but forget the fact that they only have 100 members
@mdossantos047 No. No that's not what I'm saying at all. I see your point very clearly, but it appears you do not fully comprehend mine.
Religion allows good people to do horrible things, because actions done in the name of God do not require any logical reasoning. It doesn't matter if it's 1 person or 1 million people who stone. It's religion that's inherently wicked, not the people practicing it. That's why I said I'm sure your grandmother is a nice person; most religious people are.
@riKringkast You must see the flaws in what you're saying. How is it that religion is wicked if most religious people agree that something such as stoning or rape is wrong? The same could be said about anything else that is meant for good when one person misuses it for their own personal gains. Doesn't make the thing evil
@mdossantos047 Because religion allows people to commit aforementioned acts of cruelty with a good conscience, whereas common reason and morality norms do not. It's very simple, and I fail to see any apparent flaw in this argument.
Stoning is a punishment commonly associated with the Qur'an, so I understand why you're having trouble relating to it. Consider instead the act of genital mutilation (circumcision). Horrible by any moral standard, but deemed a-ok by biblical standards.
I'm very disappointed to listen to Matt and Trey saying this. Dismissing a well constructed, strongly worded and FACTUAL book because they think the tone is 'bitchy' is absolutely ridiculous. Before listening I was a fan of South Park, but not any more. It's hard to watch their show when you have absolutely no respect whatsoever for its creators. Seth McFarlane on the other hand has a lot of good views, it's just a shame that Family Guy is crap.
oh wow you love south park until one episode which you dont agree with? how pathetic are you? matt and trey hate creationists and religious homophobes as much as the nextguy but what they cant stand is people too far up their own arse like half of these 'militant athiests'.
Just watched the Go God Go episodes with Dawkins again, since when they aired I had no clue who he was (I was more like the kids on the show).. the impersonations are always ridiculous thats part of the joke, but this time they just didn't do their research so it wasn't as funny as their other ridiculous but informed episodes.. lost some respect for matt and trey on this one
Reading the comments I can see what they mean with atheists being bitchy and whiny, and thinking they are smarter than everyone. I am not religious at all, just making an observation that will surely get an angry response from someone.
I'm a believer, but I'm not going to be stupid enough to make an argument to support such a position. Theism is the belief that there is a god, without having any proof. Atheism is the belief that there is no god, without having any proof. Making an argument for any of these two viewpoints is completely retarded, that is if you are retarted enough to do so.
@zathen I'd just like to correct you on your definition of atheism. Atheism is a lack of belief in a god. There is no active belief. In other words, atheist do not believe, as opposed to your statement which says that they do believe their is no god. You can see that from this correct standpoint, atheism does not require any proof. Many, if not most atheists have studied religion thoroughly and to the point where they realize that no evidence of any god exists, so they simply don't believe.
@ChristopherLuck It's about RATINGS man! MORE PEOPLE, MORE MONEY! Atheists watching equals ratings! Watch the VERY LAST episode of this past season, "The Poor Kid." It should be OBVIOUS they DO believe in God, they are just being outrageous and controversial and playing the "are we or are we NOT atheists" game so atheists will NOT tune them out!
@ucandrinkmytea Did watch it, just thought they made fun of everyone, no matter what. Actually didn't think they were making fun of atheists so much as Richard Dawkins.
Wow, I love Matt and Trey but I seriously disagree with them on this. When you're fighting such ignorance, hypocrisy, and stupidity as that which is found in the arguments of many religious people (i.e creationists), people such as Dawkins have no option but to be belligerant; the difference is Dawkins bases his viewpoints on evidence. Also, for Matt to disregard the content of the book based purely on his perception of the "tone" of the writing is pretty fucking stupid.
@lateralusman87 yes but what they are saying is why does it bother athiests that some people go to church and live good lives yet they still need to be told 'THE TRUTH.. fight creationists and terrorists by all means but if people are happy and live alongside nonbelievers without any problems then atatcking their beliefs is simply tiresome and also quite pointless
@lateralusman87 yeah but whats the point of fighting the beliefs of people who do no harm to others for the sake of it. even if they are wrong who cares there are bigger problems in the world than the fact that some people believe in a god and feel happoy because of it
cracked.com/blog/4-things-both-atheists-believers-need-to-stop-saying/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage Great Article!
Some people just don't get the point: stop whining about philosophy (religion, atheism, etc.). There will always be war, like it or not, with religion or without it. It's a pity though...
heh, getting too 'talky' or too 'thinky' or 'bitchy' or 'whiny' heh. science will never be able to explain the inspiration behind a Parker or a Stone! genius such as theirs is beyond explanation...
eh. the comparison about the santa claus thing doesn't really work because believing in santa claus is harmless, while the belief in organized religion murders, starts wars and keeps people downtrodden.
Theres nothing wrong with being dedicated or passionate about what you believe in, If a christian truly believe's she's/he's saving someone from eternal damnation then by all means he/she should try as hard as possible to convince people. Just because Matt and Trey never tell anyone what they believe does not make their opinions any more valid, they're just a couple of dumb stoner's after all. I like southpark, and they can parody whatever they want but their athiesm episode was pretty dumb.
To be honest, my favourite type of person is the type that can just be as good as they can be and get along with everyone else regardless of race, colour or creed. A great many Christians, Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists or whatever else you care to mention can do this just fine.
It's the ones that can't that cause the problems, no matter what their beliefs (or lack thereof) happen to be.
Dawkins is as adamant as he is because the belief in god has infiltrated our political system, law systems, school systems, etc. The separation of church and state is being challenged, and the perpetuation of bad science, lies and unequal treatment is rampant in our society. Dawkins talks to evolution deniers all day long, I would be bitchy too.
even carl sagan while he criticized organized religions, said that he was not an atheist. he said in an interview that an "an atheist has to know a lot more than I know" anyone who is a real critical scientific thinker would not be able to decide either way. the evidence is not there. and just describing the mechanics of the earth is not evidence. that would be like explaining the process of a car engine and then saying " so u see there is no engineer"
@MyaChrisify Obviously no one is completely atheist. However there's nothing wrong with saying you are one because its the same as saying that one doesnt believe in the easter bunny or the tooth fairy, there's no evidence that utterly disproves them but anyone who thinks about it properly can see that they're just silly ideas and dont even need disproving
@TheNobleSufferer by that logic no one is completely anything, because you could wake up tomorrow to realize that gravity has all been an illusion and what people thought was oxygen is actually magical fairy dust. Life is series of assumptions, thus you believe what is most likely, ergo what credible evidence supports. You cant disprove god no, but you cant really disprove anything if you look at it like that.
@guitaHer099 actually, thats completely true, if you want to get hardcore exact then all you can ever know 100% is that you exist in that moment in which you are thinking you exist, this is infallible. However you can be fairly sure that 1+1=2 unless some evil deity is decieving you every time you make the sum. You can work your way up from there. What im sayin is you can be quite sure the theory of gravity is true but belief in god is as fallible as that in santa or magical fairies
@MyaChrisify Also, your comparison fails completely. It's more like investigating the origin of a tree, the answer being it grew from a seed that fell from another tree, instead your sayin that someone planted the seed. Then we find eveidence that it really did fall from another tree but you say the person planted that one. This is still perfectly possible but its a baseless, pointless idea and shouldnt be taken seriously until some sort of evidence is found.
@MyaChrisify And as for Carl Sagan's statement, its a critisism of the of the word at best, not of the people who call themselves it. And besides Carl Sagan was an Astronomer, not a major (anti-)religous philosopher so saying 'even' he said somthing doesnt really mean anything anyway.
@Gwarthie He said in another interview "We’re essentially atheists — I mean, I am; Trey I don't want to speak for. But coming from that point of view, we’re atheists who don’t hate religion, who are kind of fascinated by it and kind of admire it". Trey however said in a couple of other interviews that he wasn't an athiest.
as much as i respect these guys, and most of their points are absolutely right, this time their wrong. to most religious people, the only language they ever get is their own, so you have to get to their level to start talking.
WOW, So those South Park guys who claim to be so wise and make fun of everybody , Believe in the Stupidest oldest trick in the known world? Jesus Christ Guys guys?!!! C"mone I hope this is all a joke??
@MsMydaisy: Christians kind of have it coming since they practically control the country, shove their beliefs into everyones' faces, influence politics, educatian and cultural expression. Not to mention the history of that cult(s)..
@bbreslin99 because they have a different opinion. Darwin wasn't even atheist.. i'm not sure what i believe, I'm open minded because neither side has me convinced. the evidence atheists give is not sufficient enough for me either. just explaining how things work is not enough. how could anyone who is seriously studying the issue feel convinced either way? both sides lack in evidence.
@MyaChrisify Atheism can be divided into 2 categories, weak and strong atheism. Strong atheism is the belief that no gods exist, while weak atheism is just not believing in gods. If you recognise that there is no evidence to back up the claim that there is any gods, you recognise that there's no reason to believe there is, this means you don't believe in gods, aka: you're an atheist.
@MyaChrisify do you believe in oxygen? why? evidence right? You don't believe your breathing mercury, because you have evidence that, that would be impossible. Their is more evidence that you are breathing oxygen then mercury, thus you believe it. Their is less evidence for a magical Jewish zombie alien who is three beings in one orbiting the earth while his evil counterpart waits at its core swimming through the earths mantle. than there is that there isn't...see?
The difference between religion and believing in santa is that people don't kill people over santa clause and people aren't oppressed because of a belief of santa. Religion isn't some fun little thing like santa belief, people die for this stupid shit. That's why people try to argue with religion, the shit is dangerous (and really really stupid).
@ucandrinkmytea Yes, claiming to have only the answers we've actually got evidence for is denial. Denial of what exactly? Can you clarify that notion? If you find yourself having trouble expanding it it's because it's an empty claim that's more of a talking point than a reasonable response.
@ucandrinkmytea you mean it's denying a Being that made everything in the universe by using Darwinism and a century of intense study on it. your correct.
@TheNobleSufferer Some atheists are so passionate about atheism (the amount of atheist Dawkin fanboys trolling this vid is a good example) it sometimes seems as if atheism is a religion.
@polishguy994 What is the dogma of atheism. You're not a Catholic if you reject transubstantiation, but you can be an atheist and reject being passionate about it.
@TheNobleSufferer I know that technically atheism isn't a religion, but there are some hardcore atheists out there who can give evangelical fundamentalist Christians a run for their money in terms of dedication to to their belief(s) about god. The point of my previous statement was that even though atheism isn't a religion, there are atheists out there who are just as bad as radical Christians and Muslims when it comes to forcing your beliefs on others or preaching to others.
@polishguy994 atheism by definition cannot be a religion, just like an empty glass can't be a different kind of glass filled with water. A theist is one who believes in religion an atheist is one who doesn't. thats it. nothing more, nothing less.
"We're not trying to preach our opinion, because we don't know what it is"
Brilliant. That's really the only logical feeling on anything involving those religious or philosophical debates that amount to nothing.
KramerUSA 6 hours ago
Dawkins really is bitchy.
EXTREMEANIMALS 10 hours ago
Haha at all the butthurt atheists proving these guys right.
KrazyKommieKiller 2 days ago
these chaps are so inarticulate. They sound like teenagers.
guwest2 6 days ago
Congratulations to Matt Stone who JUST GOT MARRIED!!!
ucandrinkmytea 1 week ago
@ucandrinkmytea My apologies...Matt Stone got married in 2008.
ucandrinkmytea 1 week ago 3
Atheism in the modern age is becoming the very thing it's against; a rapidly growing religion. When you try to convert people across the globe to an "ism," you are doing what religions are known for doing. Why does it matter what anyone else believes? I myself, am Christian and I feel like I am less religious than some atheists I know. Why? Because I don't care what other people believe. As long as no one treads on eachother's toes, why the hell should it matter? I think: TP&MS 4 president! lol
Mayeflower7 1 week ago
The tone of the God Delusion is bitchy and whiny? Seriously? They don't have to agree but that is just a cop out. Maybe they had trouble understanding it.
herringla 1 week ago
I don't think these two understand what it's like to present a beautiful argument with mountains of evidence only to have someone refute what you say without a shred of evidence. Compound that with years of experiencing that situation over and over and over, and I think you might begin to see why Dawkins' book may sound "bitchy" to some. I think Prof. Dawkins just cannot fathom why people tend to believe the most unbelievably stupid things. I share that with him.
aharmlesspie 1 week ago
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lmao, ironic that Atheists can be just as or even more butthurt than religious people sometimes.
get over it. Matt and Trey have pretty much ripped on every religion in the book, and then when they finally get around to atheism and point out how bitter and obnoxious some Atheists are, you guys flip out.
SkyussValley7 2 weeks ago
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SkyussValley7 2 weeks ago
Matt & Trey, being contrary just to be contrary.
segmentationfault 2 weeks ago
Hardcore atheists get on my last nerve. Sooooooooooooo condescending to other people, judgmental and so sure of themselves. Hardcore religious people get on my nerves too just like that but I don't encounter as many of them in the social circles I usually run in.
ActaNonVerba71 2 weeks ago
I am better than Atheists and Creationists. bitches. YARRR
eyebal 3 weeks ago
What kind of idiotic douchebag would stop watching a television show because the writers were a different religion than them?
Seriously.
saxophone323 3 weeks ago
On Nightline ABC news Matt Stone Said quote:"I am an atheist, I live my life like I'm an atheist." So I guess Matt is an atheist.
kennytheangel1997 3 weeks ago
Good on you guys!
chuckycostigan 3 weeks ago
Trey says he believes in A God; not necessarily a Christian God or whatever. Listening to this, it just seems like they don't really pay attention or care about any organised religion, atheism, whatever a lot of the time anyway. Trey cared more about the Wii.
DowntownMayor 3 weeks ago
Hey South Park makes fun of everyone. So when they finally make fun of atheists, we're going to bitch about it? No. South park is still one of my favorite shows.
CocktailGaming 3 weeks ago
Baseless assertions? I would think that a "firm atheist" would shy away from those...
xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
@xnobody777x your parents told me all this last time i visited for new years
Runningjoels 4 weeks ago
@Runningjoels I'M GUNNA NEED SOME EVIDENCE!!!! LOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
@xnobody777x a true christian doesnt need evidence. again have fun in hell.
Runningjoels 4 weeks ago
@Runningjoels In my personal religion i believe that humans who believe in God(s) go to hell for being so stupid. That's my faith. I don't have/need evidence. The name of my religion by the way is TheDevilWroteTheBibleism. My parents believed this so I do too. All other religions are false and unbelievers are infidels. Have fun in hell.
EatCarlSagan 3 weeks ago
wtf is wrong with you guys? "i dont like south park because trey and matt made fun of atheists" lol one of the reasons religion is made fun of so much is because they cant laugh at themselves and they get so offended. dont go down that path... im a firm atheist and i thought this episode was awesome. i love richard dawkins but their analogy of a kid telling others santa clause doesnt exist is kinda true. i can understand both sides of the point, and love south park more then ever.
Runningjoels 4 weeks ago
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xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
Thumbs up if you've fucked @Runningjoels 's ex girlfriend! I should get alot of thumbs up!
xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
@xnobody777x but not from you.... virgin! OHHH SEXUALITY BURN
Runningjoels 4 weeks ago
@Runningjoels What do you mean? She's right beside me on my bed. She's the one who told me to write that comment, for fuck's sake!
xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
@xnobody777x yeah just like every other christian, you tell yourselves lies to make you feel better. and just like most christians, you a cunt who jacks off on the bible and then shoves the bible up his ass and jerks off the passion of the christ cus you have a hard on for jesus.
Runningjoels 4 weeks ago
@Runningjoels I never said I was a Christian.... are you projecting your own feelings on your comment there?
xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
@xnobody777x so you deny christ? it wouldnt show much faith to deny your savior just to win a youtube argument.... what is it? are you a christian or not? if you dont answer i take it as a yes, and you lose cus you jerk off to passion of the christ.
Runningjoels 4 weeks ago
@Runningjoels well now that you ask, no I'm not denying Christ and the fact that you deduced that from "I never said I was a Christian" makes me worry about your mental status.. and as for jerking off to the passion of the Christ, only a sick-minded individual (such as yourself) would even think of that. Shame on you, sir!
xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
@xnobody777x no i just thought you would be proud of your beliefs instead of implying otherwise. i on the other hand AM a proud christian and i jerk off to passion of the christ every night of the week. youre gonna go to hell for being ashamed of our savior and not being a true christian. youre gonna get raped by satans spicy weiner for all of eternity, in a miserable cycle of pain and humiliation. have fun heathen, ima be in heaven fuckin bitches! HAHA LOSER ASS FUCKTART, JESUS LOVES ME!
Runningjoels 4 weeks ago
@Runningjoels Ok it was fun responding to a possible schizophrenic, but I'm going to get back to your ex-girlfriend now, she's starting to drip on the sheets!
xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
@xnobody777x you and my whore of an exgirlfriend who has HIV and cyphlyis have fun. im saving myself for marriage. enjoy hell.
Runningjoels 4 weeks ago
@Runningjoels No, you're mistaken. She doesn't have HIV, she has IHV (Immense Horny Vagina), but it's ok it's a common misconception. And as for cyphlyis, it's a shame that you're ex-girlfriend would lie to you to keep you away from her, LOL!
xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
@xnobody777x youre a misconception. your parents condom broke i guess, leading to conception and your burden of a life on them. they used a condom cus like you they werent real christians and you will all go to hell. but they would rather make a drum set out of your vital organs then look at your ugly face. but if they did do that, they would be put in jail. thats the only reason your parents put up with you. your useless, smelly, and fat.
Runningjoels 4 weeks ago
@Runningjoels Maybe that's why your ex-girlfriend never gave you any?
xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
@Runningjoels Just cuz you didn't get any, doesn't mean everybody doesn't...
xnobody777x 4 weeks ago
Okay i'm done with South Park....
kaneyp 4 weeks ago
Religions get shit on: Hilarious
Atheism gets shit on: You guys have a stick up your ass
So what you guys are saying here in the comments, is that you're disappointed in Stone and Parker because they don't believe in the same thing that you do? And that's a reason to lose all interest and respect for them? You guys are fucking hypocrites. It's absolutely disgusting.
Live and let live. Who gives a fuck who believe what. Stop being smug, pretentious bastards and take a joke.
mdossantos047 1 month ago 21
@mdossantos047 THANK YOU!
DowntownMayor 3 weeks ago
@mdossantos047 It's pretty hypocritical of someone to make fun of the whole word for years, and when someone makes fun of THEIR beliefs it's suddenly wrong. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone...
OnkelStein 3 weeks ago
@mdossantos047 Whole world * sorry
OnkelStein 3 weeks ago
@mdossantos047 People are annoyed because they are missing the point! Relgion is the cause of much aggrivation in the world to put it mildly. And that statement about 'having fun beleiving in Santa' would be fine if all religious beleif was just 'fun'. It aint. Aside from the rape, torture and murder that it causes, it is also detrimental to education. Lets not forget opposition to live save research.
Suffice to say, get religion out of science and polotics, and we can shut up.
CyanideSovereign 1 week ago
@CyanideSovereign If it's not religion, it'll be something else. You'd better believe that.
mdossantos047 1 week ago
@mdossantos047 Both true and irrelevent. My point was that religion can be very deleterious to people and progress and simply pointing that out does not make you whiney or pretentious. As for '.. it'll be something else' I don't see why that should deter people from speaking on the subject, or trying to change minds to make the world better.
It sounds like "whats the point in washing the dishes? They'll only get dirty again!" logic.
CyanideSovereign 1 week ago
@CyanideSovereign Getting too into one thing is not good, religion just happens to be one of those things. The people doing terrible things and doing it in the will of their "religion" are not and should not be held in example for all people of religion.
People get the same way about greed, women, power, etc. Attacking people just because they're religious is absolutely ridiculous and missing the point of everything you're trying to abolish
mdossantos047 1 week ago
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@mdossantos047 "The people doing terrible things and doing it in the will of their "religion" are not and should not be held in example for all people of religion."
I agree.
"Attacking people just because they're religious is absolutely ridiculous..." I agree.
But religions are ideas. Ideas should be able to stand against scrutiny. And you should be able to dispute peoples claims without people accusing you of 'attacking' them.
CyanideSovereign 1 week ago
@mdossantos047 And sorry for my shit spelling.
CyanideSovereign 1 week ago
@mdossantos047 Live and let live indeed. One is likely to get one's panties in a bunch if the neighbour's a pedophile. Why not be upset that other people are being stoned to death in the name of religion daily?
The hypocrisy element is a valid point, I agree, but it's a very weak point. Furthermore; when Matt and Trey's strongest argument against atheism is "people need to chill out", then I can very much understand how people would be upset at their ignorance.
riKringkast 1 week ago
@riKringkast Nobody said they're against athiests. They even state that Penn from Penn and Teller is one of their closest friends. "Stoning" is a combination of extremism and a product of an environment. My grandmother is the most religious people that I know and she isn't stoning anybody.
Explain exactly how it's a weak point? If you're mad at religion for something that the vast majority of religious people don't partake in, then YOU sir, have the weak point.
mdossantos047 1 week ago
@mdossantos047 The argument about stoning was intended to outline a very important point, and I'll quote Stephen Weinberg for this one:
"in the ordinary moral universe, the good will do the best they can, the worst will do the worst they can, but if you want to make good people do wicked things, you’ll need religion"
Religion invites people to an existence of non-thinking, wherein there is no need for rational explanations or moral justification. All you need, is for God to have your back.
riKringkast 1 week ago
@mdossantos047 About the hypocrisy being a weak point:
It is hypocritical to revel in the "glory" of religion taking a bashing and go crying to mommy when the table's turned, you're right about that one. But when held up to all the horrible things religion has led to throughout history, the hypocrisy argument amounts to nothing more than a drop in the ocean of reasons to detest religion.
I'm sure your grandmother is a wonderful human being. Unfortunately, not all people are like her.
riKringkast 1 week ago
@riKringkast So, by stating that my grandmother is a good person and not all people are like her, are you basically saying that most religious people are the ones stoning people to death? Do you see the point that I'm making here? Sure, religion has been the cause for some terrible things, but those are extremists and do not apply to most of the population. Like most people cite the Westboro Church for the evils of Christianity but forget the fact that they only have 100 members
mdossantos047 6 days ago
@mdossantos047 No. No that's not what I'm saying at all. I see your point very clearly, but it appears you do not fully comprehend mine.
Religion allows good people to do horrible things, because actions done in the name of God do not require any logical reasoning. It doesn't matter if it's 1 person or 1 million people who stone. It's religion that's inherently wicked, not the people practicing it. That's why I said I'm sure your grandmother is a nice person; most religious people are.
riKringkast 6 days ago
@riKringkast You must see the flaws in what you're saying. How is it that religion is wicked if most religious people agree that something such as stoning or rape is wrong? The same could be said about anything else that is meant for good when one person misuses it for their own personal gains. Doesn't make the thing evil
mdossantos047 6 days ago
@mdossantos047 Because religion allows people to commit aforementioned acts of cruelty with a good conscience, whereas common reason and morality norms do not. It's very simple, and I fail to see any apparent flaw in this argument.
Stoning is a punishment commonly associated with the Qur'an, so I understand why you're having trouble relating to it. Consider instead the act of genital mutilation (circumcision). Horrible by any moral standard, but deemed a-ok by biblical standards.
riKringkast 6 days ago
I'm very disappointed to listen to Matt and Trey saying this. Dismissing a well constructed, strongly worded and FACTUAL book because they think the tone is 'bitchy' is absolutely ridiculous. Before listening I was a fan of South Park, but not any more. It's hard to watch their show when you have absolutely no respect whatsoever for its creators. Seth McFarlane on the other hand has a lot of good views, it's just a shame that Family Guy is crap.
ConLis19 1 month ago
oh wow you love south park until one episode which you dont agree with? how pathetic are you? matt and trey hate creationists and religious homophobes as much as the nextguy but what they cant stand is people too far up their own arse like half of these 'militant athiests'.
MattHXIV 1 month ago
MILITANT ATHEISM
There is no god damn god, god damn it.
FreeeeS 1 month ago
THey are just like contradictory guy, "I hate dairy products, but I love cheesus"
FreeeeS 1 month ago
Just watched the Go God Go episodes with Dawkins again, since when they aired I had no clue who he was (I was more like the kids on the show).. the impersonations are always ridiculous thats part of the joke, but this time they just didn't do their research so it wasn't as funny as their other ridiculous but informed episodes.. lost some respect for matt and trey on this one
dopeasfuckk 1 month ago
Reading the comments I can see what they mean with atheists being bitchy and whiny, and thinking they are smarter than everyone. I am not religious at all, just making an observation that will surely get an angry response from someone.
aaronnyy 1 month ago
@aaronnyy which makes you an attention whore or a troll
FreeeeS 1 month ago
I'm a believer, but I'm not going to be stupid enough to make an argument to support such a position. Theism is the belief that there is a god, without having any proof. Atheism is the belief that there is no god, without having any proof. Making an argument for any of these two viewpoints is completely retarded, that is if you are retarted enough to do so.
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@zathen I'd just like to correct you on your definition of atheism. Atheism is a lack of belief in a god. There is no active belief. In other words, atheist do not believe, as opposed to your statement which says that they do believe their is no god. You can see that from this correct standpoint, atheism does not require any proof. Many, if not most atheists have studied religion thoroughly and to the point where they realize that no evidence of any god exists, so they simply don't believe.
D3maine 1 month ago
I'd have to agree with Penn. I think I'm losing my respect for these two clowns. Dance for us guys, it's entertainment. A disgusting industry.
ChristopherLuck 1 month ago
@ChristopherLuck It's about RATINGS man! MORE PEOPLE, MORE MONEY! Atheists watching equals ratings! Watch the VERY LAST episode of this past season, "The Poor Kid." It should be OBVIOUS they DO believe in God, they are just being outrageous and controversial and playing the "are we or are we NOT atheists" game so atheists will NOT tune them out!
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Oh no, you can't sincerely make fun of religion and not be an atheist... SELL-OUTS!!!
twooffour 1 month ago
Matt and Trey are believers? Come on. I'm disappointed if they are.
brianbela 1 month ago 6
@brianbela I watched the LAST SP episode "The Poor Kid" because I enjoyed the agnostic jokes and what I witnessed surprised me a little....
They used "Mysterion" as a means to actually PROFESS the belief in angels.
Hmmmm...does NOT sound like an atheist belief to me!
ucandrinkmytea 1 month ago
@brianbela If ANY of you doubt me, just WATCH that episode....
ucandrinkmytea 1 month ago
@ucandrinkmytea Did watch it, just thought they made fun of everyone, no matter what. Actually didn't think they were making fun of atheists so much as Richard Dawkins.
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From what they say in this clip, their beliefs seem to be "murky" and abstract, nothing really dogmatic or religious.
Doesn't that make them even more respectable? That they take SUCH shameless a piss on religion in their show, being believers themselves?
twooffour 1 month ago
Proof Matt and Trey need to stick to making comedies...
MrDookieBootie 2 months ago
ligious is a synonym for tarded.
dopeasfuckk 2 months ago
Wow, I love Matt and Trey but I seriously disagree with them on this. When you're fighting such ignorance, hypocrisy, and stupidity as that which is found in the arguments of many religious people (i.e creationists), people such as Dawkins have no option but to be belligerant; the difference is Dawkins bases his viewpoints on evidence. Also, for Matt to disregard the content of the book based purely on his perception of the "tone" of the writing is pretty fucking stupid.
lateralusman87 2 months ago 20
@lateralusman87 yes but what they are saying is why does it bother athiests that some people go to church and live good lives yet they still need to be told 'THE TRUTH.. fight creationists and terrorists by all means but if people are happy and live alongside nonbelievers without any problems then atatcking their beliefs is simply tiresome and also quite pointless
MattHXIV 1 month ago
@lateralusman87 yeah but whats the point of fighting the beliefs of people who do no harm to others for the sake of it. even if they are wrong who cares there are bigger problems in the world than the fact that some people believe in a god and feel happoy because of it
MattHXIV 1 month ago
@999dlihcshtoR Nope, he isn't.
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vivalapaul 2 months ago
cracked.com/blog/4-things-both-atheists-believers-need-to-stop-saying/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage Great Article!
vivalapaul 2 months ago
Some people just don't get the point: stop whining about philosophy (religion, atheism, etc.). There will always be war, like it or not, with religion or without it. It's a pity though...
TheYvdW 2 months ago
@TheYvdW I think that's a cop-out.
overman926 1 month ago
heh, getting too 'talky' or too 'thinky' or 'bitchy' or 'whiny' heh. science will never be able to explain the inspiration behind a Parker or a Stone! genius such as theirs is beyond explanation...
jamesedwardtheobald 2 months ago
for the first time ever i am questioning the number of dislikes!
jamesedwardtheobald 2 months ago
eh. the comparison about the santa claus thing doesn't really work because believing in santa claus is harmless, while the belief in organized religion murders, starts wars and keeps people downtrodden.
hayleypdowd 2 months ago
@hayleypdowd Agreed. I was about to post something similar.
halfawake454 2 months ago
YEAAAA!!!! Matt and Trey Know GOD exists too!
YeshuaisShekinah 2 months ago
Theres nothing wrong with being dedicated or passionate about what you believe in, If a christian truly believe's she's/he's saving someone from eternal damnation then by all means he/she should try as hard as possible to convince people. Just because Matt and Trey never tell anyone what they believe does not make their opinions any more valid, they're just a couple of dumb stoner's after all. I like southpark, and they can parody whatever they want but their athiesm episode was pretty dumb.
guitaHer099 2 months ago
To be honest, my favourite type of person is the type that can just be as good as they can be and get along with everyone else regardless of race, colour or creed. A great many Christians, Atheists, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists or whatever else you care to mention can do this just fine.
It's the ones that can't that cause the problems, no matter what their beliefs (or lack thereof) happen to be.
TheValeyard92 3 months ago
Dawkins is as adamant as he is because the belief in god has infiltrated our political system, law systems, school systems, etc. The separation of church and state is being challenged, and the perpetuation of bad science, lies and unequal treatment is rampant in our society. Dawkins talks to evolution deniers all day long, I would be bitchy too.
Johnf85 3 months ago 15
Matt and Trey delight in being contrarian.
Whatever you expect them to do... they love to do the opposite.
No surprise that they did this.
Roper122 3 months ago
even carl sagan while he criticized organized religions, said that he was not an atheist. he said in an interview that an "an atheist has to know a lot more than I know" anyone who is a real critical scientific thinker would not be able to decide either way. the evidence is not there. and just describing the mechanics of the earth is not evidence. that would be like explaining the process of a car engine and then saying " so u see there is no engineer"
MyaChrisify 3 months ago
@MyaChrisify Obviously no one is completely atheist. However there's nothing wrong with saying you are one because its the same as saying that one doesnt believe in the easter bunny or the tooth fairy, there's no evidence that utterly disproves them but anyone who thinks about it properly can see that they're just silly ideas and dont even need disproving
TheNobleSufferer 3 months ago
@TheNobleSufferer by that logic no one is completely anything, because you could wake up tomorrow to realize that gravity has all been an illusion and what people thought was oxygen is actually magical fairy dust. Life is series of assumptions, thus you believe what is most likely, ergo what credible evidence supports. You cant disprove god no, but you cant really disprove anything if you look at it like that.
guitaHer099 2 months ago
@guitaHer099 actually, thats completely true, if you want to get hardcore exact then all you can ever know 100% is that you exist in that moment in which you are thinking you exist, this is infallible. However you can be fairly sure that 1+1=2 unless some evil deity is decieving you every time you make the sum. You can work your way up from there. What im sayin is you can be quite sure the theory of gravity is true but belief in god is as fallible as that in santa or magical fairies
TheNobleSufferer 2 months ago
@TheNobleSufferer yeah, pretty much
guitaHer099 2 months ago
@MyaChrisify Also, your comparison fails completely. It's more like investigating the origin of a tree, the answer being it grew from a seed that fell from another tree, instead your sayin that someone planted the seed. Then we find eveidence that it really did fall from another tree but you say the person planted that one. This is still perfectly possible but its a baseless, pointless idea and shouldnt be taken seriously until some sort of evidence is found.
TheNobleSufferer 3 months ago
@MyaChrisify And as for Carl Sagan's statement, its a critisism of the of the word at best, not of the people who call themselves it. And besides Carl Sagan was an Astronomer, not a major (anti-)religous philosopher so saying 'even' he said somthing doesnt really mean anything anyway.
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MyaChrisify 3 months ago
What a wonderful moderate response to this issue, i feel many atheists mirror that which they oppose a bit too much.
RedGrobo 3 months ago 2
@RedGrobo That would be anti-theist atheists.
M3t4lManiac 3 months ago
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@RedGrobo That would be anti-theist atheists.
M3t4lManiac 3 months ago
so richard dawkins is liek napoleon dynamite according to m att and trey
casablanca4381 3 months ago
as an atheist, i think if all christians had the same attitude as matt and trey, dawkins wouldnt have needed to write his book.
Calliclesiastes 3 months ago
@Calliclesiastes same with atheists
thundertower 3 months ago
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Matt Stone is actully an athiest but he's just not a dick about it like richard dawkins.
MetalBru01 3 months ago
@MetalBru01 Matt and Trey roasts EVERYONE, Richard Dawkins just got mad because they roasted him.
"Either it's ALL okay to make fun of or NONE of it is."
Matt Stone.
ucandrinkmytea 3 months ago
@ucandrinkmytea also a regular quote by dawkins and hitchens
kochos777 2 months ago
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Did he get mad? I thought he just commented on the bad British accent...
twooffour 1 month ago
@MetalBru01 i thought he was jewish
casablanca4381 3 months ago
@casablanca4381 Yeah, ethnically but not religiously.
MetalBru01 3 months ago
@MetalBru01 oh ok gotcha
casablanca4381 2 months ago
@MetalBru01 Not according to this video.
creamaster 3 months ago
@creamaster In a recent statement he said that is is.
MetalBru01 3 months ago
@MetalBru01 the video they just said they were not Atheist.
vivalapaul 2 months ago
@vivalapaul Matt recently said that he was, but trey said the he still didn't concider himself an athiest.
MetalBru01 2 months ago
@MetalBru01 Actually, Matt just said that he lives like an atheist. He didn't really speculate more on the matter
Gwarthie 2 months ago
@Gwarthie He said in another interview "We’re essentially atheists — I mean, I am; Trey I don't want to speak for. But coming from that point of view, we’re atheists who don’t hate religion, who are kind of fascinated by it and kind of admire it". Trey however said in a couple of other interviews that he wasn't an athiest.
MetalBru01 2 months ago
@Gwarthie Living like an Atheist could be the same as living like an agnostic.
vivalapaul 2 months ago
@MetalBru01 Good thing Trey is the more creative one.
vivalapaul 2 months ago
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MetalBru01 2 months ago
@vivalapaul What do you mean "good thing".
MetalBru01 2 months ago
@MetalBru01 but he just said he did believe in something? but yeah SP makes satire of everyone and every thing.
casablanca4381 2 months ago
@casablanca4381 Matt said in a later interview that he was an athiest but he said he wasn't anti-religious and that he was fascinated by religion.
MetalBru01 2 months ago
shut up and watch cartoon.......why can't we just get along? :cry: whether we are atheists or believers.....:why:
freiheitsalv 3 months ago
@freiheitsalv *the cartoon :lol:
freiheitsalv 3 months ago
Who cares if there atheist or not, there funny. I agree Dawkins comes off as kind of a bitchy person. I'm an atheist btw.
putthisonmytab 3 months ago
@putthisonmytab Thanks for being mature about it. At least some people know that Matt and Trey make fun of everything!!
arkinyte13 1 month ago
Matt stone has described himself as an Atheist after this.
ABEJOHNDERDANSER 4 months ago
as much as i respect these guys, and most of their points are absolutely right, this time their wrong. to most religious people, the only language they ever get is their own, so you have to get to their level to start talking.
Ryagful 4 months ago
WOW, So those South Park guys who claim to be so wise and make fun of everybody , Believe in the Stupidest oldest trick in the known world? Jesus Christ Guys guys?!!! C"mone I hope this is all a joke??
mannymmv 4 months ago
@mannymmv they are not christians.
Aldelirium 4 months ago
But Santa doesn't exist :p
NAEIRNBRUFORU 4 months ago
@NAEIRNBRUFORU BLASPHAMER!!!!
TheNobleSufferer 4 months ago
Wow, these atheists in the comments are really passionate about hating Christians.
MsMydaisy 4 months ago 11
@MsMydaisy: Christians kind of have it coming since they practically control the country, shove their beliefs into everyones' faces, influence politics, educatian and cultural expression. Not to mention the history of that cult(s)..
Trampadoo 3 months ago
@MsMydaisy they are also no different in their radicalism and attacks than crazy religious people are.
vivalapaul 2 months ago
they said the tone is bitchy not that dawkins is
fixitluis 4 months ago
wow...these guys are way dumber than i thought!!
bbreslin99 4 months ago
@bbreslin99 because they have a different opinion. Darwin wasn't even atheist.. i'm not sure what i believe, I'm open minded because neither side has me convinced. the evidence atheists give is not sufficient enough for me either. just explaining how things work is not enough. how could anyone who is seriously studying the issue feel convinced either way? both sides lack in evidence.
MyaChrisify 3 months ago
@MyaChrisify Atheism can be divided into 2 categories, weak and strong atheism. Strong atheism is the belief that no gods exist, while weak atheism is just not believing in gods. If you recognise that there is no evidence to back up the claim that there is any gods, you recognise that there's no reason to believe there is, this means you don't believe in gods, aka: you're an atheist.
M3t4lManiac 3 months ago
@MyaChrisify do you believe in oxygen? why? evidence right? You don't believe your breathing mercury, because you have evidence that, that would be impossible. Their is more evidence that you are breathing oxygen then mercury, thus you believe it. Their is less evidence for a magical Jewish zombie alien who is three beings in one orbiting the earth while his evil counterpart waits at its core swimming through the earths mantle. than there is that there isn't...see?
guitaHer099 2 months ago
The difference between religion and believing in santa is that people don't kill people over santa clause and people aren't oppressed because of a belief of santa. Religion isn't some fun little thing like santa belief, people die for this stupid shit. That's why people try to argue with religion, the shit is dangerous (and really really stupid).
cardsforlife 4 months ago
What does Atheism have over every religion in the world? It's honest.
Koshy2 4 months ago
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@Koshy2 Atheism.....the religion of DENIAL!
ucandrinkmytea 4 months ago
@ucandrinkmytea Yes, claiming to have only the answers we've actually got evidence for is denial. Denial of what exactly? Can you clarify that notion? If you find yourself having trouble expanding it it's because it's an empty claim that's more of a talking point than a reasonable response.
Koshy2 4 months ago
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LOL. Nope. We are logical. No religion.
papermermaid 4 months ago
@ucandrinkmytea Atheist is a Religion?
TuWear 4 months ago
@ucandrinkmytea Implying that Atheism is a Religion
MaGuss0909 4 months ago
@ucandrinkmytea abrahamic theism.. the belief absence of evidence...
mikeyg789 4 months ago
@ucandrinkmytea Atheism is a religion? Not collecting stamps is a hobby?
krautinator 4 months ago
@ucandrinkmytea Wrong religion needs rules and philosophies. Just like theism alone is not a religion.
retrogamerist 4 months ago
@ucandrinkmytea Haha, good and incredibly retarded one. Atheism is a lack of belief, not a religion or denial.
monkeykingeater 4 months ago
@ucandrinkmytea you mean it's denying a Being that made everything in the universe by using Darwinism and a century of intense study on it. your correct.
libidooverdrive 4 months ago
@ucandrinkmytea the lack of any religous beliefs cant be classified as a religon you twat
TheNobleSufferer 4 months ago 9
@TheNobleSufferer I have to disagree. Religion and religiosity, is only nominal, much like the conception of God.
lemmidos 3 months ago
@TheNobleSufferer Some atheists are so passionate about atheism (the amount of atheist Dawkin fanboys trolling this vid is a good example) it sometimes seems as if atheism is a religion.
polishguy994 3 months ago 6
@polishguy994 What is the dogma of atheism. You're not a Catholic if you reject transubstantiation, but you can be an atheist and reject being passionate about it.
thealchemist1111 3 months ago
@polishguy994 a religion is a set of beliefs usually set around a deity or group of deities, not just a fanclub
TheNobleSufferer 3 months ago
@TheNobleSufferer I know that technically atheism isn't a religion, but there are some hardcore atheists out there who can give evangelical fundamentalist Christians a run for their money in terms of dedication to to their belief(s) about god. The point of my previous statement was that even though atheism isn't a religion, there are atheists out there who are just as bad as radical Christians and Muslims when it comes to forcing your beliefs on others or preaching to others.
polishguy994 3 months ago
@polishguy994 atheism by definition cannot be a religion, just like an empty glass can't be a different kind of glass filled with water. A theist is one who believes in religion an atheist is one who doesn't. thats it. nothing more, nothing less.
guitaHer099 2 months ago
@TheNobleSufferer yes but it has become a movement of its own
MattHXIV 3 months ago
@TheNobleSufferer
Yeah like being bald a haircolor. >.<