difficile de ne pas aimer , mais la voix se dechire...Crespin plus jeune est bien meilleure et plus emouvante et plus sensible encore.Mais : Callas !!!
I think Callas sounds superb in this recording. There is no sign of vocal insecurity or decline. She may have been going through that but it is not evidenced in this recording. It is one of her best and a joy to listen to for its beauty and classical line.
Cf. mackjay2, joanabanyeres & killeradvice. J’adore Maria Callas à l’objection près — je m’excuse — qui vaut sans doute pour bien des chanteurs mais très précisément pour elle, que quand on l’entend chanter « Ô malheureuse Iphigénie » on se dit que c’est du Callas avant de se dire que c’est du Gluck. Il est d’autres œuvres, je pense à Médée. Cette raison vaut que je ne me lasse jamais de l’écouter... mais j’aime aussi changer de disque, pour écouter Janet Baker notamment (j'adore Janet Baker !).
This aria appears on the Dangerous Liaisons soundtrack - although not this particular recording, which is a good thing, because I don't like this one at all. The one on the soundtrack is sung by Catherine Bott, and it is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever heard. She sings passionately & magnificently.
Ξέρει κανείς πού μπορώ να αγοράσω αυτό το κομμάτι; Δεν μπόρεσα να βρω αυτό που τραγουδιούνται από τη Μαρία Κάλλας σε Itunes και εγώ πρέπει να το έχουν, τραγουδά καλύτερα από οποιονδήποτε άλλον!
Does anyone know where I can buy this piece? I couldn't find it sung by Maria Callas on Itunes and I NEED to have it, she sings it better than anyone else!
Nobody is going to argue that her voice is at its best, we all know that. But that was part of the set "Callas à Paris", so she had to record it. And if you ask me, with the means she had then, she did her best, and the line is superb, and every note has a meaning.
This was no piece for Callas to have been singing in 1963. She was still effective in other stuff during this period, but this music is ill-written for her voice at this time. She was much, much more secure in this aria six years earlier when she undertook the role at La Sala.
I have to agree with you. What I meant is that with her voice in the condition it is here, she should never have attempted the recording of this aria. It hammers away at the upper middle register, where Callas was most exposed. It takes a lot of patience and understand to listen to this particular Callas version. She sounded far more secure when she did it six years earlier at La Scala in the complete opera. This came much too late, especially given Callas' 1963 vocal condition.
Janet Baker n'était pas en plein déclin vocal comme Callas ici, malheureusement. On a l'émotion intense de Callas contre l'éternelle froideur de Dame Baker, fine musicienne au rendement régulier et fort honorable, mais d'un mortel ennui dans tous ses rôles... Technique pure, solfégisme raffiné contre sentiments brûlants et déchirants. Affaire de priorité dans nos goûts. Crespin et Suzanne Balguerie ont laissé des témoignages supérieurs qui réunissent ces deux aspects.
I do not agree with you entirely. I grant that the voice is but a poor reflection of the power and softness it used to have. however, don't you feel something out of real and deeply ellegant hearing at this? I think that class is in each note and that supreme Iphigeny's hurting heart (perhaps for some broken notes) is rendered to us in an unique manner. One of my favorites. Thanks!
difficile de ne pas aimer , mais la voix se dechire...Crespin plus jeune est bien meilleure et plus emouvante et plus sensible encore.Mais : Callas !!!
dapheneo 6 months ago
Avec un orchestre du XIX ème siècle...
Où est la subtilité de Glück ?
Allez, c'est bien quand même malgré certains aigus...
bouzignac 7 months ago
Rococoism:
O malheureuse Iphigénie
ta famille est anéantie
Vous n'avez plus de Rois
je n'ai plus de parents
Melez vos cris plainlifs
à mes gémissements
Megacle87 7 months ago
Does anyone know where I can find the lyrics for this song online and in French? Thanks
rococoism 8 months ago
I think Callas sounds superb in this recording. There is no sign of vocal insecurity or decline. She may have been going through that but it is not evidenced in this recording. It is one of her best and a joy to listen to for its beauty and classical line.
CumpariSparacino 8 months ago
Cf. mackjay2, joanabanyeres & killeradvice. J’adore Maria Callas à l’objection près — je m’excuse — qui vaut sans doute pour bien des chanteurs mais très précisément pour elle, que quand on l’entend chanter « Ô malheureuse Iphigénie » on se dit que c’est du Callas avant de se dire que c’est du Gluck. Il est d’autres œuvres, je pense à Médée. Cette raison vaut que je ne me lasse jamais de l’écouter... mais j’aime aussi changer de disque, pour écouter Janet Baker notamment (j'adore Janet Baker !).
zarbithechti 1 year ago
Ô, Jeanne, vas-y!!!
giloubreizh 1 year ago
oh! keep your nasty thoughts for yourself before you write anything for a great artist. who asked you anyway!
KassandraSoprano 1 year ago
No one before La Callas, no one like La Callas, no one after La Callas.
alex7700585 1 year ago 8
@alex7700585 yes no one only one DIVA, because she comes from the pain, her pathos is belongs to the stage and the grandiloquence just one DIVA
Nacidodelmar 5 months ago
laissant de coté la voix déjà touchée. il faut etre grec pour transmettre ces sensations.
Magnifique Maria. !
joanabanyeres 1 year ago
she deteriorated. It pains me to hear and notice her rapid decline. She was a diamond. I will always love Maria.
Daniel6996ful 1 year ago
This aria appears on the Dangerous Liaisons soundtrack - although not this particular recording, which is a good thing, because I don't like this one at all. The one on the soundtrack is sung by Catherine Bott, and it is one of the most beautiful pieces of music I've ever heard. She sings passionately & magnificently.
Monicax95 1 year ago
Ξέρει κανείς πού μπορώ να αγοράσω αυτό το κομμάτι; Δεν μπόρεσα να βρω αυτό που τραγουδιούνται από τη Μαρία Κάλλας σε Itunes και εγώ πρέπει να το έχουν, τραγουδά καλύτερα από οποιονδήποτε άλλον!
vivelhistoire 1 year ago
@vivelhistoire
Στο αλμπουμ "Callas a Paris", EMI Classics, δεύτερος δίσκος.
Υπήρχε παλιότερα και σε αλμπουμ 8 δίσκων με άριες - ένα must!!
theo4760 11 months ago
Does anyone know where I can buy this piece? I couldn't find it sung by Maria Callas on Itunes and I NEED to have it, she sings it better than anyone else!
vivelhistoire 1 year ago
Nobody is going to argue that her voice is at its best, we all know that. But that was part of the set "Callas à Paris", so she had to record it. And if you ask me, with the means she had then, she did her best, and the line is superb, and every note has a meaning.
MarcoCallas 1 year ago 7
@MarcoCallas
No, this Aria was not included in the big concert she gave in Parirs 1963 in collaboration with fasion magazine Marie-Claire.
Delesaga 10 months ago
@Delesaga I never said she sang this in concert. I said it is from the set of 2 CDs called "Callas à Paris", that's all.
MarcoCallas 10 months ago
This was no piece for Callas to have been singing in 1963. She was still effective in other stuff during this period, but this music is ill-written for her voice at this time. She was much, much more secure in this aria six years earlier when she undertook the role at La Sala.
Zva26 2 years ago
"this music is ill-written for her voice?!?!
I'm gonna guess it wasn't written for her voice at all since it was written a couple centuries before her birth
the only remotedly well suited to this voice would be a duet with nails on a blackboard
BernardProfitendieu 2 years ago
I have to agree with you. What I meant is that with her voice in the condition it is here, she should never have attempted the recording of this aria. It hammers away at the upper middle register, where Callas was most exposed. It takes a lot of patience and understand to listen to this particular Callas version. She sounded far more secure when she did it six years earlier at La Scala in the complete opera. This came much too late, especially given Callas' 1963 vocal condition.
Zva26 2 years ago
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BernardProfitendieu 2 years ago
La musique est belle au-delà du monde....mais pas dans cet enregistrement!
Janet Baker a fait une interprétation superieure.
mackjay2 2 years ago
Sì.
Soprattutto di Pina Fantozzi, nell'aria "Ho tanti panni a stendere".
anfiosso 2 years ago
Janet Baker n'était pas en plein déclin vocal comme Callas ici, malheureusement. On a l'émotion intense de Callas contre l'éternelle froideur de Dame Baker, fine musicienne au rendement régulier et fort honorable, mais d'un mortel ennui dans tous ses rôles... Technique pure, solfégisme raffiné contre sentiments brûlants et déchirants. Affaire de priorité dans nos goûts. Crespin et Suzanne Balguerie ont laissé des témoignages supérieurs qui réunissent ces deux aspects.
KILLERADVICE 2 years ago 2
@KILLERADVICE Janet Baker n'avait pas la voix du ròle, il faut une Falcon ou un soprano dramatique qui puisse dominer l'instrument.
Magnifique Maria.
joanabanyeres 1 year ago
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mackjay2 2 years ago
Although I LOVE La Callas, this is not a good recording at all. Very strained, without the usual Callas finesse.
TrevorDaniels 2 years ago
I do not agree with you entirely. I grant that the voice is but a poor reflection of the power and softness it used to have. however, don't you feel something out of real and deeply ellegant hearing at this? I think that class is in each note and that supreme Iphigeny's hurting heart (perhaps for some broken notes) is rendered to us in an unique manner. One of my favorites. Thanks!
EnricoAtHome 2 years ago 3
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One or two dimensions worse than Edda Moser.
anonymusum 2 years ago
que tiene que ver la crespin con la callas pelotudo...
siglinde86 2 years ago
Ici, Gluck est bien servi. Mais je préfère Mme Crespin dans ce rôle.
giloubreizh 3 years ago