For this show they'd obviously get really stupid people or actors to play the atheists. An atheist like Matt Dillahunty, though...that would be a great thing to watch.
JESUS CHRIST, HIS CATHOLIC-UNIVERSAL-APOSTOLIC CHURCH, SACRAMENTS, THE BIBLE, MIRACLES, HEALINGS, ST. MARY APPARITIONS, MESSAGES FROM HEAVEN, SIGNS IN 2011 ARE NOT A MYTHOLOGY BUT THE REALITY !!!
I'd watch the show, but only if the host appeared wearing an Easter Bunny costume and each religious leader was forced to wear a Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus outfit while proselytizing to the atheist, just so that the show made as much sense as possible.
ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions tons of Earth soil)
NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about either. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
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THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless.
most islam converts are seduced by the idea of God alone , great , cause it makes sense ,, but as they progress they stumble upon books of sunnah , hadith , and some other books writen by men and atributed to the messenger many years after his death , and they get into them thinking that its part of islam ,oblivious to the fact that quran is the only message brought by the messenger as a mercy to man kind, in a way they go back to where they came from but this time its a hiden trap , peace
they will just plant christians to try to make it seem that conversion of a true free thinker is possible. its like trying to convince a vegan to go hunting.
@Lifter85 geeez thats the best you could do? There are books out there that can help you when making stuff up about people. I am much more creative than you.
I feel like an ass now for never having considered this guy was not religious. I actually look that this little web show in a whole new light. Excellent.
Won't work. No active atheist (not just someone who doesn't even think about religion) will ever become religious. What will convince them is evidence of a God, and there is no evidence. They would have to "plant" people who are paid to act the part. To we atheists, what this show is the equivalent of is attempting to get us to believe in Santa Claus again. It's just not going to happen. Did this show ever air?
@FollowTheChildren there is no part of satan that is not part of god. god is omnipresent, meaning everywhere. therefore every part of satan is part of god. also, not one part of hell is seperate from god. same reason. change your mind about anything?
@FollowTheChildren You only send me some more lies... I don't really care about lies to be honest. I have send you some unbiased articles. There is also no source on your articles, so.... what ever.. I can make up stuff too if you want, and trust me, it will be way better then the bible :D
Nothing you said there was right, everything was a LIE!
Almost non of the scientists believe in god, where the hell did you get that from! And you don't throw in proof, BECAUSE THE IS NONE!.... you little sheep.... stop making stuff up, or say stuff you didn't check!
Feel free to send me your proof in a PM btw :)
You people are exactly why we become atheists, cause you are full of SHIT!
IF religious leaders are smart, they will pick atheists who are dumb as a post and in articulate enough that they can't defend themselves. That will make them look good. But against an intelligent, articulate, informed atheists then they don't stand a chance.
@blueboyblue are there dumb atheists? calling yourself an atheist means you have used your brain at least once. the religious leaders are going to have a tough time anyway.
@BeingNobody1956 I've heard this before by buddhists, and maybe you can help me understand why it is that buddhism doesn't proselytize. If your religion (I'm assuming you're buddhist) has teachings which are of value to people, why wouldn't you want to convert them?
@Xsublime28xX i think it is because people have to have a desire to take a path on their own. why does someone need "convert" them. buddhists are not in competition with other religions. it is possible to be buddhist, christian, jewish at the same time from our perspective. if someone asks questions it is fine to teach them how to find the answer on their own, but i cannot find the answer to someone elses questions. they have to look within themself and find truth themself
@Xsublime28xX that doesnt mean other buddhists do not want to be supportive or apathetic. we just recognize that each individual has to see these things with their own heart. it has to be "experienced", not taught. so, we are not trying to steal anyone and make them believe what we believe. only by emptying ourselves can we fill ourselves
@BeingNobody1956 Well how did buddhism spread from its place of origin to all over asia? Buddhist missionaries had to have taken the dharma from one country to another, and introduced it to people who were already practicing a religion.
@Xsublime28xX there is a difference between a monk just going someplace to practice his bekiefs and people come and ask him what he is doing and missionaries going someplace distributing literature and insinuating to people that the physical conditions of their day to day life are contingent on their spiritual beliefs. I have never had a buddhist monk offer to me one word of information relating to buddhism and absolutely zero literature relating to buddhism unless i specifically requested it
What, theres nothing wrong with a show to convert athiest to creationism but theres something wrong with the possibility of a creationist becoming an athiest?
Instead of converting atheists into theists, they're probably going to kill each other over whose religion is superior. Good luck with that. "God" bless thee :P
@crocoshocker It's called "Penitents Compete" or for Turkish "Tovbekarlar Yarisiyor" It hasn't started yet because religious leaders are still bitching about the fact that atheists could get their voice heard.
Why isn't this in America? Oh wait, the Muslims won't be participating... The Catholics would probably protest. The Christians, Protestant would participate. I hope they don't get the fundies..
Deists and atheists only disagree about the first microseconds of the cosmos. This means that you can believe in a God and not believe in fairy tales. Which some deist consider a self creating existence a fairy tale.
"Which some deist consider a self creating existence a fairy tale."
this is special pleading.
If you're going to claim the universe has to have a cause or agency behind it, why would this "god" (which you really haven't defined) NOT need an "intelligence behind it"?
Secondly, taking into account the cosmological constant, dark matter etc. the universe may well be a zero-sum energy entity. allowing it to arise from nothing and requiring no "god".
Even if there is a God behind God behind God....stretching backwards nearly to infinity eventually something must recieve exemption. You may say, "Why can't the universe itself be that which recieves exemption?" I know my statement is a exercise in special pleading because a self caused universe breaks the rules as well. Both explainations are seeking exemption, are they not? The idea of matter arising from oblivion by itself is special pleading as well in our current understanding.
Erm, even if they were both special pleading, the explanation without god is more parsimonious.
However, without this "everything needs a cause" rule, there's no special pleading taking place. You have ZERO examples of matter/energy/time/space being *caused* to exist because you have zero examples of those things springing forth ex-nihilo.
"The idea of matter arising from oblivion by itself is special pleading as well in our current understanding."
No it's not. Matter/antimatter pairs form all the time on the quantum scale. Provided the net energy is zero, it's entirely possible in our current understanding of physical laws.
Interestingly enough, if we take into account observed effects of dark matter and the cosmological constant...
It's not a matter of something from nothing. But nothing from nothing.
Don't get me wrong, deism's much less harmful than most forms of theism. I'm objecting to your statement "This means that you can believe in a God and not believe in fairy tales."
You are *still* inventing entirely unsupported entities to fill spots in which the *correct* answer is "I don't know".
It's textbook god of the gaps as well as special pleading.
I'm an atheist and I'd love to go on that reality show, especially if they offered a prize at the end that was all like YO DENY JESUS AND WIN A GRAND OR ACCEPT HIM AND WIN ETERNAL SALVATION IN THE TITS OF ABRAHAM I'd be richhhhh
as time has began and history has been recorded there are 0% occurrences of a god, demi-god or any religious occurrence happening. So by this at this current time 2/8/11 atheism is 100% accurate. atheism the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. so until there is any suggestions remotely that a God or deity exists that is the actual proof of atheism. Furthermore as science continues we are slowly increasing further evidence to disprove the theory of a God or Deity.
@Xarai lack of proof isn't the same as having proof, you double negate atheism.... Also science as a whole doesn't relate to it, just specific sciences.
Honestly I don't think anyone could convert me from an atheist because LOOK at the planets! Look theres a whole entire universe, filled with other landscapes and probably other life forms and none of that is in the Bible- the Earth is all that matters apparently. Are there seperate Bible's for aliens? Explain that.
Your post is very interesting because a sizable number of religious people consider extraterrestrial life a threat to the faith. Although many religious people (including the more educated ones) do not see this as a problem. As the Bible or any other holy text is not saying that extraterrestrial life does not exist, they simply remain mute on the subject. Some even have advanced ancient astronaut theories. That ancient man was visited by extraterrestrials in the book of Ezekiel Ch. 1.
@Keysteeze Most religious responses to my question pretty much say "God works in mysterious ways and does not reveal all to us- but he created the Sun for light and the Moon for the tides" to which I answer no shit that's why he made those things, what about the other 13 billion light years of space? It's depressing because I'd like to believe in something but religion is just so damn illogical.
Well you might be a deist. A deist is someone who rejects man made religions, all of them. However they do believe that there is a certain order and complexity to nature that seems to indicate an intelligence was behind it. (Teleology). Most deist have no problem with accepting evolution, stellar evolution, and big bang cosmology. If you like you could choose to believe that an intelligence created the cosmos and then no longer intervenes.
its really intresting how the guy is really emotional about this. He shows a lot of hate toward religion but all in all i think hes smart but man lighten up
I assume they will lie,misrepresent and use scripture to further their own agenda's.Its not surprising that the religious leaders are scared their books of fairytales will be shown on tv for what they are,nothing but superstitious,archaic books that have no basis in science,fact and common sence
God, this man is annoying. His jokes are even failing on his co-host. You can tell that she doesn't want to have to listen to this man any longer. Watch her look at her notes hoping that the segment is over. This man would be insufferable at a bar.
man i would LOVE to believe in eternal life after death of pure bliss, not ever lsoing anyone etc etc...who in their right mind would NOT want to believe that? i can not make myself believe something, and i'm not sure any atheist can. i'd always rather have the truth than live a lie, no matter how much worse the latter may be.
Gonna disagree and disagree with TYT here. I think the danger is, the way the show is being advertised makes it seem like the "ultimate prize" is belief in a god. Or maybe it's knowledge? Haha, yeah, right.
It seems almost like religious propagenda to me. Plus some atheists might come on there and "convert" just to get the free-trip. However, if it were handled properly it could be an excellent show. But something tells me it wouldn't air if say, the atheists convinced a religious leader.
@neomp5 Semi-agree. Also no one converts people other than God because we people are too pushy when it comes to our beliefs. You can't convert someone by rubbing it in their face on and on and on...
@neomp5 I think you don't know Islam enough, I learned it for 3 years, I am now a Muslim and no one can change that because I answered all my questions and found proof
first, no such proof exists. second, religion, including islam, is about believing without proof. third, anything that answers ALL you questions is a lie.
@neomp5 well actually these are proofs that proves islam is a good religion, and also you don't even know these answers or my questions, I am a physics student with 150 IQ, If you think I am a stupid for being a Muslim, that is kinda offensive
stupidity isn't about how much you don't know, it's about how much of what you know that you are willing to reject because you don't like it.
any argument for the truth of a religion applies to all other religions, and all such arguments fail as soon as they attempt to be specific. they can only avoid flat-out refutation by making vague, unfalsifiable claims. this is why every religious person eventually falls back on faith as their only justification.
believing in a religion is evidence of an unscientific, and yes, stupid, mind. you cannot believe in religion and be scientifically educated at the same time without superhuman feats of compartmentalisation. they simply do not agree. no matter what proof you might see written on your grilled cheese sandwich, a little understanding of statistics, the law of averages, and the brain's pattern-recognition software makes it impossible to accept such imaginings. you need to learn critical thinking.
there are not "many evidences" in the quran. what there is in the quran is genies and pegasi and other such fairy tale nonsense. and also something that appeals to you on a nonrational level.
if there was only one religion in the world it might just carry a little more weight, but when theres 20 000 of them thats come and gone, well hey wakey wakey faith head get that grey matter working and except the modern world of science speaks the truth with facts and evidence. talking snakes and unicorns,turning people into salt really doesnt wash in this day and age.
Been watching this show for a while and there's a disturbing trend of Cenk just ignoring Ana's viewpoint, or make a patronizing comment, to the effect of "shut up and stay pretty while I talk" It's still a good show but Ana deserve a LOT more respect than you're giving her.
Isn't Buddhism in the same category as atheist since they lack the belief in any god? If so, then Atheists could argue that they are already "converted" to Buddhism and gain a free trip to Tibet!
The Original Buddhist beliefs are generally athiest. However, it still has a belief in Moksha, which can be conceived also as a union with God 2.0, or the Universe as a big intelligent creator. That's just one view, don't ask me to rationalize it because I don't really understand how that makes sense myself.
On the other hand, since Buddhism sort of diverges from Hinduism, there are certain traditions of Buddhism that incorporate belief in several gods.
@DarkAngel0125 well buddhism is hinduism without the gods if u remove god from hinduism u hav buddhism,buddhism respects all hindu gods and goddesses but consider them inferior to buddha and thr existence or non existence has nuthin gt to do with enlightement,its more apatheist thn atheist
Lol the chick was on a completely different wavelength to the guy- what a sycophant, pretending she agrees with him.... I agree with the guy on most of it though- I highly doubt any true atheist, that had thought about it critically already, would be swayed by any theists arguments. I reckon most converted "atheists" are really just people who never gave much thought to it one way or the other.
But what if atheists don't want conversion? Ah, I see. Convert them anyway. After all, they need it, even if they don't know it. They are in religious denial after all.
I couldn't imagine anything more pointless than having a group meeting where a bunch of people get together and try to show who's invisible friend is better, and a small rational minority who knows there's no proof for any of it but nobody else wants to listen to them.
xccmannx... pick up a book called 'why people believe weird things'. Or 'demon haunted world'. Those would be good starting points for you to attempt to educate yourself. Seriously, if you're seeing demons and crazy shit, you have some serious psychological issues. Help yourself... it's not healthy to believe the things you do!
You know what I want to see ...I want to watch the moment a chilled out agnostic with enough knowlage of ethics; history and science is pushed to far by the connections they're making in thier brain and flip-out on everybody with a shrill & strident atheististic tirade. 8) joy.joy
so i guess by the shows standards, its okay to teach your children religion because they are already getting other view points when they go to public schools.
And now the Christians augment (God loves you but if you dont love him and use the so called free will he gave you or are unfortunate enough to be born in a country where it was not in his divine plan to make u Christian then you will burn forever but dont worry he has already sacrificed himself to himself to forgive you for the rules he made or he got some random innocent dude to die for the though crimes of every one else, err, we have best partys
i dont care what you believe, i will respect it, and you.
just dont walk around disrespecting someone just cause of what they belive in..
its not cool, and you know it, just wait until someone comes along totally shuting you down and disrespecting you just because you belive in something.
So, you would show respect for the idea that microscopic pink and blue stripped dinosaurs roam the surface of Pluto, should someone hold that belief?
If everyone respected every belief out there, then there would be no cause for mental institutions, as 'anything goes'. Any idea, no matter how crazy, would be accepted.
Instead, we have something called reason. And we should use it more often.
Well, you see xcc... the only thing that stops religious fanatics from being called 'crazy people', as you put it, is the wide acceptance of the idea. You might call someone who believed in Thor or Zeus or Neptune crazy today, but in their own time they were much like today's Christian.
I'm sorry bud, but if you believe in invisible beings watching you, or that you can talk to these magical beings, or in talking snake, virgin births, etc... you are indeed crazy.
Can anyone disprove the tooth faerie? No. You see, you have the argument backwards. It is not the duty of you or me to disprove someone's claim that there is a tooth faerie, now is it? No, it's the duty of the person making the incredible claim to back it up... in this case, the person claiming that there is a tooth faerie. You can't prove there isn't one, but that doesn't lend any credibility to the idea. Same applies to God.
Would you not talk with confidence that Santa Clause is not real? You cannot disprove him.
I can say with confidence that God is not real because there is zero supporting evidence. And I would argue, that there is a fair amount of evidence that the loving God of the Bible does not exist, even though it cannot be disproven.
More importantly though, religion OFTEN leads to negative impacts on it's believers and/or society. In short, it's dangerous.
@mooseflier ACTUALLY there is proof of God..Noahs ark.. and some more stuff.. but best of all.. I have my own proof..I've seen shit that ahtiests can't explain..
About every four or five years a claim is made that Noah's Ark has been found. Seems there's quite a few Noah's Ark's out there! And each time, religious fanatics who actually believe that ABSURD Biblical story whoop and holler that proof has been found for their beliefs.
This year's newest Noah's Ark is in an undisclosed location, with no scientists allowed to examine anything. Yet you find this compelling evidence. Your standards are poor.
ROFLMAO!! She did not respond positively to his Forrest Whittiker joke.
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For this show they'd obviously get really stupid people or actors to play the atheists. An atheist like Matt Dillahunty, though...that would be a great thing to watch.
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They'll find an unbiased (non-planted) 'atheist' in Turkey......really..
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I'd watch the show, but only if the host appeared wearing an Easter Bunny costume and each religious leader was forced to wear a Tooth Fairy or Santa Claus outfit while proselytizing to the atheist, just so that the show made as much sense as possible.
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ALTHOUGH I'M A CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN (Baptist), I no longer believe that the Bible teaches eternal torment or suffering. The Bible teaches eternal punishment, but it's not eternal torment. In my popular Internet article, TRADITIONAL DOCTRINE OF HELL EVOLVED FROM GREEK ROOTS, I explain how and why teaching of eternal torment entered early into Christianity and how Scriptures have been misinterpreted and taken out of context to support that teaching. ~Babu G. Ranganathan (B.A. theology/biology)
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SCIENCE SHOWS THAT THE UNIVERSE could not have sustained itself eternally because of entropy (even in an open system). Einstein confirmed that space, matter, and time had a beginning! That beginning had to be supernatural because natural laws have no ability to bring the universe into existence from nothing. The supernatural cannot be proved by science but science points to a supernatural intelligence for the origin and order of the universe ~ HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM (Article)
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EINSTEIN CONFIRMED that space and time are just as physical as matter. That's why space and time can be altered by gravity, and space produces particles. Einstein's equations show that the universe couldn’t be eternal. It had a beginning. Einstein believed, because of science, in the existence of God behind the origin and order of the universe. He didn't believe in a personal God like Christians do, but he did believe science pointed to the existence of an all powerful and intelligent Creator
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THE SCIENTIFIC CASE AGAINST ATHEISM: Please read this Internet article of mine published in Russia's English Pravda. It will be a real eye-opener for all who think belief in a Creator is merely subjective blind faith. Also read my article, LIFE ON MARS NO SURPRISE (In the Earth's past there was powerful volcanic activity which spewed life-containing dirt and rocks (meteors) into outer space. Mars may literally have millions tons of Earth soil)
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NATURAL LIMITS TO EVOLUTION: Only evolution within "kinds" is genetically possible (i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.), but not evolution across "kinds" (i.e. from worm to human). How were species living and reproducing if their vital structures, organs, reproductive systems hadn't evolved yet? Read my Pravda Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS! I discuss: Punctuated Equilibrium, "Junk DNA," genetics, mutations, natural selection, fossils, genetic/biological similarities between species
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
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DAWKINS, HITCHENS, AND HAWKING REFUSE TO DEBATE with creationists who are SCIENTISTS, such as the scientists at The Institute for Creation Research. Dawkins and his friends only debate non-scientist creationists. Read articles by scientists supporting creation at The Institute for Creation Research site. Read analysis from creation scientists about the latest news on fossils, genetics, astronomy, etc. that you won't read in the main stream media. Visit the Institute for Creation Research site.
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WHAT IS SCIENCE? Science simply is knowledge based on observation. No one observed the universe coming by chance or by design, by creation or by macro-evolution. These are positions of faith. The issue is which faith the scientific evidence best supports. Natural laws can explain how an airplane or living cell works, but it's irrational to believe that mere undirected natural laws can bring about either. Read my Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
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THE ODDS of the sequence of molecules in a cell coming together by chance are similar to the odds of magnetic letters randomly bonding together in a sequence to form all the words and sentences in a dictionary. Without the right sequence, a cell's molecules won't work. Amino acids can come by chance but not proteins. Without DNA there can be no proteins and vice versa. Gradually won't do. It's all at once or not at all for a cell's survival. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
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NATURAL SELECTION DOESN'T PRODUCE ANYTHING. It can only "select" from what is produced that has survival value. If a variation occurs that helps a species survive, that survival is called being "selected." That's all it is. There's no conscious selection by nature. It's a passive process. Natural selection is a figure of speech. The term itself is a tautology. Natural selection only operates once there is life and reproduction, not before. Read my article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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NATURAL SELECTION IS NO BLIND WATCHMAKER because it can only "select," not produce or arrange. If a variation survives, that's called being "selected." Natural selection operates only once there is life and reproduction, not before, so it couldn't have been involved in life's origins. A partially-evolved cell (an oxymoron) would quickly disintegrate. It couldn't wait ("survive") millions of years for chance to complete it and then make it alive! Read: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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ARE FOSSILS REALLY MILLIONS OF YEARS OLD? Popular Internet article examines assumptions concerning fossil deposition as well as built-in assumptions involved in modern radiometric dating (not used for dating fossils but other rocks), and arguments from starlight and time. Discusses lack of true transitional forms in the fossil record and lack of "age" sequence of the fossil layers. Discussion of mixed species (i.e. dinosaur, reptile, mammal fossils in the same stratum).
Mogley52 4 months ago
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IMAGINE A FISH WITH PART FINS, part feet with the fins evolving (transitioning) into feet. What survival benefit would there be? The fish couldn't use its fins or its feet, and there are no fossils showing such a creature ever existed. They only exist on automobile bumper stickers! There are no true transitional forms, either living or fossilized. Evolutionists realize this fact! Read my Internet article: WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 4 months ago
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APES ARE QUITE COMFORTABLE IN HOW THEY WALK, just as humans are quite comfortable in how they walk. Even a slight change in the position of a muscle or bone, for either, would be excruciatingly painful and would not be an advantage for survival. There's no hard evidence that humans evolved from ape-like creatures anymore than there's hard evidence that apes evolved from four-legged-pawed dog-like creatures. Read Internet article: MISSING LINKS THAT NEVER WERE.
Mogley52 4 months ago
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GENETIC INFORMATION CANNOT HAPPEN BY CHANCE, so it's more logical to believe that genetic similarities between all forms of life are due to a common Designer who designed similar functions for similar purposes. It doesn't mean all forms of life are biologically related! Also, "Junk DNA" isn't junk. These non-coding segments of DNA have recently been found to be vital in regulating gene expression. Read my popular Internet article: HOW FORENSIC SCIENCE REFUTES ATHEISM
Mogley52 4 months ago
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ALL REAL EVOLUTION ( i.e. varieties of dogs, cats, etc.) in nature is the expression, over time, of already existing genes. Evolution is possible only if there’s information (genes) directing it. Only variations of already existing genes are possible, which means only limited evolution and adaptations are possible. Nature has no ability to invent new genes via random mutations caused by random environmental forces. That’s evolutionary faith, not science. Read my article, WAR AMONG EVOLUTIONISTS!
Mogley52 4 months ago
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DO EYES CARRY SCARS OF EVOLUTION? Read this fantastic Internet article by biologist and creationist Brian Thomas. Thomas refutes every argument of a "flawed" design for the eye, and explains how and why the so-called flaw is actually the best thing for the eye. Read the article! It's amazing what facts evolutionists will ignore. Numerous times evolutionists have been proven wrong about their interpretation of a structure as being flawed or useless.
Mogley52 4 months ago
convert christians to your religion.
as if atheists are blank slates or something
fucking idiots.
but wouldnt it be funny if one of the theists became an atheist?
Mikeybetts 4 months ago
most islam converts are seduced by the idea of God alone , great , cause it makes sense ,, but as they progress they stumble upon books of sunnah , hadith , and some other books writen by men and atributed to the messenger many years after his death , and they get into them thinking that its part of islam ,oblivious to the fact that quran is the only message brought by the messenger as a mercy to man kind, in a way they go back to where they came from but this time its a hiden trap , peace
MegaYiwen 4 months ago
if all Americans are muslims the world will be better place ........no war and peace all over Allah hu akhbar
excsa62 5 months ago
@FollowTheChildren theory of evolution which has no proof btw
The dumbing down of america continues...........
pchtermino1 5 months ago
There is a way to convert all atheists at the same time. Every single one of them.
Show scientific testable proof of gods existence. Don't talk around it. We have a problem with faith and belief. Show proof!
If by chance they can show proof how come they didn't do it 2000 years ago?
pchtermino1 5 months ago
I want to be on this show so bad. LMAO
sarcasticduck44 5 months ago 13
0:26 He says pervert????
Zezra01 5 months ago
@Zezra01 LOL, he said "perfect" =)
rbshow211 2 months ago
they will just plant christians to try to make it seem that conversion of a true free thinker is possible. its like trying to convince a vegan to go hunting.
halo3isme1 5 months ago
THIS TURKISH FAGGOT IS A TRUE RACIST...AND CHEATS ON HIS WOFE...TRUE STORY.
Lifter85 6 months ago
@Lifter85 geeez thats the best you could do? There are books out there that can help you when making stuff up about people. I am much more creative than you.
pchtermino1 5 months ago
I like this video but those subtitles are not right.
gnarlymarly805 6 months ago
0:46 TV host's regret of the week. 0:51 Co-host regretting ever taking this job.
rellimsevens 6 months ago
I feel like an ass now for never having considered this guy was not religious. I actually look that this little web show in a whole new light. Excellent.
rrpostalagain 6 months ago
Won't work. No active atheist (not just someone who doesn't even think about religion) will ever become religious. What will convince them is evidence of a God, and there is no evidence. They would have to "plant" people who are paid to act the part. To we atheists, what this show is the equivalent of is attempting to get us to believe in Santa Claus again. It's just not going to happen. Did this show ever air?
Trips1103 6 months ago
Where is this event taking place? Are there recordings of it? I really want to watch how they try to convert people.
MonicaKn17 6 months ago
What's the name of the show which tried to convert atheists into religious?
MrDiegosxe 6 months ago
Religion is fuckin hilarious
my89tube 6 months ago 2
@my89tube and it is a huge moneymaker too ex. benny hinn, Pat Robertson, and most people in TBN
jakeharris2010 6 months ago
@FollowTheChildren there is no part of satan that is not part of god. god is omnipresent, meaning everywhere. therefore every part of satan is part of god. also, not one part of hell is seperate from god. same reason. change your mind about anything?
mkrulic517439 7 months ago
What ever happened with this show? Did it run in Turkey?
FamilyRoyalty 7 months ago
Sweet !! This can do nothing but demonstrate ridiculiousness of religions !!
659851 7 months ago
"Lighthouses are more useful than churches." - Ben Franklin
That0neN3rd 7 months ago 31
hahaha dumbass religious freaks
this will make more atheists..good
Daisy4Loka 7 months ago 2
@FollowTheChildren You only send me some more lies... I don't really care about lies to be honest. I have send you some unbiased articles. There is also no source on your articles, so.... what ever.. I can make up stuff too if you want, and trust me, it will be way better then the bible :D
SIC66SIC66 7 months ago
@FollowTheChildren Shut up you idiot.
Nothing you said there was right, everything was a LIE!
Almost non of the scientists believe in god, where the hell did you get that from! And you don't throw in proof, BECAUSE THE IS NONE!.... you little sheep.... stop making stuff up, or say stuff you didn't check!
Feel free to send me your proof in a PM btw :)
You people are exactly why we become atheists, cause you are full of SHIT!
SIC66SIC66 7 months ago
I don't speak turkish, but i definitely want to watch the show! I love it!
jakobeckert 8 months ago
Don't give Iran Any ideas!
Se7enBeatleofDoom 8 months ago
I would love to see this show in America
Dahgrostabphri 8 months ago
IF religious leaders are smart, they will pick atheists who are dumb as a post and in articulate enough that they can't defend themselves. That will make them look good. But against an intelligent, articulate, informed atheists then they don't stand a chance.
blueboyblue 8 months ago
@blueboyblue are there dumb atheists? calling yourself an atheist means you have used your brain at least once. the religious leaders are going to have a tough time anyway.
goaliedude32 7 months ago
so, does anyone know the name of this tv show? I would love to see it if I could find it with subtitles
Chaaarge 8 months ago
I was the 500th thumbs up YEY!
Bayzz2 8 months ago
the "Buddhist leader" can't be really a Buddhist no Buddhist try to convert someone else
chazz30000 8 months ago
i dont know why they would include a buddhist"leader" in this dialogue. buddhists do not try to "convert" people
BeingNobody1956 9 months ago
@BeingNobody1956 I've heard this before by buddhists, and maybe you can help me understand why it is that buddhism doesn't proselytize. If your religion (I'm assuming you're buddhist) has teachings which are of value to people, why wouldn't you want to convert them?
Xsublime28xX 8 months ago
@Xsublime28xX i think it is because people have to have a desire to take a path on their own. why does someone need "convert" them. buddhists are not in competition with other religions. it is possible to be buddhist, christian, jewish at the same time from our perspective. if someone asks questions it is fine to teach them how to find the answer on their own, but i cannot find the answer to someone elses questions. they have to look within themself and find truth themself
BeingNobody1956 8 months ago
@Xsublime28xX that doesnt mean other buddhists do not want to be supportive or apathetic. we just recognize that each individual has to see these things with their own heart. it has to be "experienced", not taught. so, we are not trying to steal anyone and make them believe what we believe. only by emptying ourselves can we fill ourselves
BeingNobody1956 8 months ago
@BeingNobody1956 Well how did buddhism spread from its place of origin to all over asia? Buddhist missionaries had to have taken the dharma from one country to another, and introduced it to people who were already practicing a religion.
Xsublime28xX 8 months ago
@Xsublime28xX there is a difference between a monk just going someplace to practice his bekiefs and people come and ask him what he is doing and missionaries going someplace distributing literature and insinuating to people that the physical conditions of their day to day life are contingent on their spiritual beliefs. I have never had a buddhist monk offer to me one word of information relating to buddhism and absolutely zero literature relating to buddhism unless i specifically requested it
BeingNobody1956 8 months ago
@BeingNobody1956 I wish all religions had the same policy my friend. Thanks for answering my questions :-)
Xsublime28xX 8 months ago
What, theres nothing wrong with a show to convert athiest to creationism but theres something wrong with the possibility of a creationist becoming an athiest?
eatadickmikemozart 9 months ago
we need to covert to the basedgod
ymkamara420 9 months ago
Instead of converting atheists into theists, they're probably going to kill each other over whose religion is superior. Good luck with that. "God" bless thee :P
geniusjas87 9 months ago
dman show's in turkish;
I wish they mad one in english so I could watch it
bbphnix 9 months ago
If there had been an actual bet, the male anchor would have lost, it is 2011 and I do not believe we have any shows like that
slycooper112 9 months ago
Wait!
What's the NAME of the TV show!?
crocoshocker 10 months ago 3
@crocoshocker It's called "Penitents Compete" or for Turkish "Tovbekarlar Yarisiyor" It hasn't started yet because religious leaders are still bitching about the fact that atheists could get their voice heard.
SDub817 8 months ago
Oh I would beg them to put me on it!! Convert me!!! PLEASE!!! Just try!!
iversonmatthew 10 months ago 3
needs more pastafarianism lol
TheAtheistTaco 10 months ago
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
- Mahatma Gandhi
civilarchangel 10 months ago 42
@civilarchangel could not be said any better..
cwongchung 9 months ago
Why isn't this in America? Oh wait, the Muslims won't be participating... The Catholics would probably protest. The Christians, Protestant would participate. I hope they don't get the fundies..
jshjamaarify 10 months ago
They will just do WOLOLO!! and the atheists shirts will change colour.
ivanlagrossemoule 10 months ago
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Islam is the true religion
lotr450 11 months ago
Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich.
- Napoleon Bonaparte
Darusdei 11 months ago 9
Deists and atheists only disagree about the first microseconds of the cosmos. This means that you can believe in a God and not believe in fairy tales. Which some deist consider a self creating existence a fairy tale.
Keysteeze 11 months ago
@Keysteeze
"Which some deist consider a self creating existence a fairy tale."
this is special pleading.
If you're going to claim the universe has to have a cause or agency behind it, why would this "god" (which you really haven't defined) NOT need an "intelligence behind it"?
Secondly, taking into account the cosmological constant, dark matter etc. the universe may well be a zero-sum energy entity. allowing it to arise from nothing and requiring no "god".
blackplatypus 11 months ago
Even if there is a God behind God behind God....stretching backwards nearly to infinity eventually something must recieve exemption. You may say, "Why can't the universe itself be that which recieves exemption?" I know my statement is a exercise in special pleading because a self caused universe breaks the rules as well. Both explainations are seeking exemption, are they not? The idea of matter arising from oblivion by itself is special pleading as well in our current understanding.
Keysteeze 11 months ago
@Keysteeze
Erm, even if they were both special pleading, the explanation without god is more parsimonious.
However, without this "everything needs a cause" rule, there's no special pleading taking place. You have ZERO examples of matter/energy/time/space being *caused* to exist because you have zero examples of those things springing forth ex-nihilo.
blackplatypus 11 months ago
@Keysteeze
"The idea of matter arising from oblivion by itself is special pleading as well in our current understanding."
No it's not. Matter/antimatter pairs form all the time on the quantum scale. Provided the net energy is zero, it's entirely possible in our current understanding of physical laws.
Interestingly enough, if we take into account observed effects of dark matter and the cosmological constant...
It's not a matter of something from nothing. But nothing from nothing.
blackplatypus 11 months ago
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@Keysteeze
Don't get me wrong, deism's much less harmful than most forms of theism. I'm objecting to your statement "This means that you can believe in a God and not believe in fairy tales."
You are *still* inventing entirely unsupported entities to fill spots in which the *correct* answer is "I don't know".
It's textbook god of the gaps as well as special pleading.
blackplatypus 11 months ago
I bet they get religious people to act like atheists.
auroradamien 11 months ago
Buddhists don't actually believe in a higher being. That's not what Buddhism is about...
fatfatat444 11 months ago
@fatfatat444 Actually we do believe in higher power(s). Have you been a Buddhist for 15 years like me? No...
SirGeorge8600 11 months ago
@SirGeorge8600
Most forms of Buddhism don't include anything that could accurately be called a "god". Making those forms of Buddhism atheistic.
blackplatypus 11 months ago 2
I'm an atheist and I'd love to go on that reality show, especially if they offered a prize at the end that was all like YO DENY JESUS AND WIN A GRAND OR ACCEPT HIM AND WIN ETERNAL SALVATION IN THE TITS OF ABRAHAM I'd be richhhhh
EucharistOfHypnos 11 months ago
i see a lot of scared people in these comments if youre 100% atheists wach the damn show
akumayoukai 11 months ago
thats a great idea
1yearyounger 11 months ago
as time has began and history has been recorded there are 0% occurrences of a god, demi-god or any religious occurrence happening. So by this at this current time 2/8/11 atheism is 100% accurate. atheism the rejection of belief in the existence of deities. so until there is any suggestions remotely that a God or deity exists that is the actual proof of atheism. Furthermore as science continues we are slowly increasing further evidence to disprove the theory of a God or Deity.
Xarai 11 months ago
@Xarai lack of proof isn't the same as having proof, you double negate atheism.... Also science as a whole doesn't relate to it, just specific sciences.
SirGeorge8600 11 months ago
Just read a bible, it will make you an atheist
maru14able 1 year ago 87
@maru14able co-signed
shaququ 11 months ago
@maru14able hahaha
KrustynailsVideo 7 months ago
@maru14able You should try reading it. You might not feel that way.
studentofthegospel 6 months ago
@maru14able ...JUST BECOME OLD....THAT'LL MAKE YOU RELIGIOUS ;-)
Lifter85 6 months ago
@Lifter85MADE ME AN ATHEIST
laapache1 5 months ago
Honestly I don't think anyone could convert me from an atheist because LOOK at the planets! Look theres a whole entire universe, filled with other landscapes and probably other life forms and none of that is in the Bible- the Earth is all that matters apparently. Are there seperate Bible's for aliens? Explain that.
JermzzzyFTW 1 year ago
Your post is very interesting because a sizable number of religious people consider extraterrestrial life a threat to the faith. Although many religious people (including the more educated ones) do not see this as a problem. As the Bible or any other holy text is not saying that extraterrestrial life does not exist, they simply remain mute on the subject. Some even have advanced ancient astronaut theories. That ancient man was visited by extraterrestrials in the book of Ezekiel Ch. 1.
Keysteeze 11 months ago
@Keysteeze Most religious responses to my question pretty much say "God works in mysterious ways and does not reveal all to us- but he created the Sun for light and the Moon for the tides" to which I answer no shit that's why he made those things, what about the other 13 billion light years of space? It's depressing because I'd like to believe in something but religion is just so damn illogical.
JermzzzyFTW 11 months ago
Well you might be a deist. A deist is someone who rejects man made religions, all of them. However they do believe that there is a certain order and complexity to nature that seems to indicate an intelligence was behind it. (Teleology). Most deist have no problem with accepting evolution, stellar evolution, and big bang cosmology. If you like you could choose to believe that an intelligence created the cosmos and then no longer intervenes.
Keysteeze 11 months ago
its really intresting how the guy is really emotional about this. He shows a lot of hate toward religion but all in all i think hes smart but man lighten up
zakariashire12345 1 year ago
I assume they will lie,misrepresent and use scripture to further their own agenda's.Its not surprising that the religious leaders are scared their books of fairytales will be shown on tv for what they are,nothing but superstitious,archaic books that have no basis in science,fact and common sence
ranchai100 1 year ago
God, this man is annoying. His jokes are even failing on his co-host. You can tell that she doesn't want to have to listen to this man any longer. Watch her look at her notes hoping that the segment is over. This man would be insufferable at a bar.
americasamoa 1 year ago
@neomp5 So true. So true. This sounds truely amazing. I really want to see this show.
youhavegeniusshins 1 year ago
what's the show name?
Meglo56 1 year ago
man i would LOVE to believe in eternal life after death of pure bliss, not ever lsoing anyone etc etc...who in their right mind would NOT want to believe that? i can not make myself believe something, and i'm not sure any atheist can. i'd always rather have the truth than live a lie, no matter how much worse the latter may be.
fellXhouseXranger 1 year ago
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ATHEISTS THE MOST FOOOLISH PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET EARTH
facts
my foot...........
this planet earth is nothing more then a DOT in front of this limitless universe
there has to be some unseen truth with which human beings must have been blessed with wright from the first day of there creation.
account5014 1 year ago
@tloskywalker1 I know this was a month ago, but there are actually four ifferent types of buddhism.
123Atheist 1 year ago
A show like that would never even get a pilot in America.
Zombie1990 1 year ago
I think this would be a fantastic idea, however, I wouldn't be surprised if it were scripted in order to control public opinions.
Jeebaah 1 year ago
i have to say one thing. more harder you grip more star systems escape. aka more they try to convert us. more people are gonna become atheist.
gooddarkjedi 1 year ago
Why are Jayar and Ana wearing matching shirts?
jsmith224455 1 year ago
Gonna disagree and disagree with TYT here. I think the danger is, the way the show is being advertised makes it seem like the "ultimate prize" is belief in a god. Or maybe it's knowledge? Haha, yeah, right.
It seems almost like religious propagenda to me. Plus some atheists might come on there and "convert" just to get the free-trip. However, if it were handled properly it could be an excellent show. But something tells me it wouldn't air if say, the atheists convinced a religious leader.
hoboboxerjoe 1 year ago
Anyone know the name of the show? Can it be found online?
IToughtITawAPuddyTat 1 year ago
I'd love to watch this show
Yewon2001 1 year ago
nothing creates atheists like teaching about religion.
neomp5 1 year ago 217
@neomp5 Well sayd, well sayd.
TheDezmona 1 year ago
@neomp5 Semi-agree. Also no one converts people other than God because we people are too pushy when it comes to our beliefs. You can't convert someone by rubbing it in their face on and on and on...
bazzvy 8 months ago
@neomp5 Actually I was born as an atheist and learned about Islam for 3 years, I am now a Muslim
Lunelitius 7 months ago
@Lunelitius
then you haven't read closely enough.
neomp5 7 months ago
@neomp5 I think you don't know Islam enough, I learned it for 3 years, I am now a Muslim and no one can change that because I answered all my questions and found proof
Lunelitius 7 months ago
@Lunelitius
first, no such proof exists. second, religion, including islam, is about believing without proof. third, anything that answers ALL you questions is a lie.
neomp5 7 months ago
@neomp5 well actually these are proofs that proves islam is a good religion, and also you don't even know these answers or my questions, I am a physics student with 150 IQ, If you think I am a stupid for being a Muslim, that is kinda offensive
Lunelitius 7 months ago
@Lunelitius
stupidity isn't about how much you don't know, it's about how much of what you know that you are willing to reject because you don't like it.
any argument for the truth of a religion applies to all other religions, and all such arguments fail as soon as they attempt to be specific. they can only avoid flat-out refutation by making vague, unfalsifiable claims. this is why every religious person eventually falls back on faith as their only justification.
neomp5 7 months ago
believing in a religion is evidence of an unscientific, and yes, stupid, mind. you cannot believe in religion and be scientifically educated at the same time without superhuman feats of compartmentalisation. they simply do not agree. no matter what proof you might see written on your grilled cheese sandwich, a little understanding of statistics, the law of averages, and the brain's pattern-recognition software makes it impossible to accept such imaginings. you need to learn critical thinking.
neomp5 7 months ago
@neomp5 Well actually I am a Muslim because there are many evidences in Quran, I have been an atheist, than became a deist, now I am a Muslim
Lunelitius 7 months ago
@Lunelitius
there are not "many evidences" in the quran. what there is in the quran is genies and pegasi and other such fairy tale nonsense. and also something that appeals to you on a nonrational level.
neomp5 7 months ago
@Lunelitius Isn't that like growing up and then start believing in Santa?
pchtermino1 5 months ago 2
@neomp5 LOL
KrustynailsVideo 7 months ago
So did they go through with the TV show or not?
cutthroooat 1 year ago 2
if there was only one religion in the world it might just carry a little more weight, but when theres 20 000 of them thats come and gone, well hey wakey wakey faith head get that grey matter working and except the modern world of science speaks the truth with facts and evidence. talking snakes and unicorns,turning people into salt really doesnt wash in this day and age.
monoke1000 1 year ago
Been watching this show for a while and there's a disturbing trend of Cenk just ignoring Ana's viewpoint, or make a patronizing comment, to the effect of "shut up and stay pretty while I talk" It's still a good show but Ana deserve a LOT more respect than you're giving her.
vaguelyreptilian 1 year ago
Isn't Buddhism in the same category as atheist since they lack the belief in any god? If so, then Atheists could argue that they are already "converted" to Buddhism and gain a free trip to Tibet!
Violent2aShadow 1 year ago
@Violent2aShadow
The Original Buddhist beliefs are generally athiest. However, it still has a belief in Moksha, which can be conceived also as a union with God 2.0, or the Universe as a big intelligent creator. That's just one view, don't ask me to rationalize it because I don't really understand how that makes sense myself.
On the other hand, since Buddhism sort of diverges from Hinduism, there are certain traditions of Buddhism that incorporate belief in several gods.
DarkAngel0125 1 year ago
@DarkAngel0125 well buddhism is hinduism without the gods if u remove god from hinduism u hav buddhism,buddhism respects all hindu gods and goddesses but consider them inferior to buddha and thr existence or non existence has nuthin gt to do with enlightement,its more apatheist thn atheist
thescorpionking2020 1 year ago
Yet another painfully bad idea from the "reality show" motherlode. Just when you thought it couldn't get any sleazier ...
MrPmj1979 1 year ago
I wanna be on that show.. anyone who can teach me to speak Turkish, message me lol ;)
53prime 1 year ago
Lol the chick was on a completely different wavelength to the guy- what a sycophant, pretending she agrees with him.... I agree with the guy on most of it though- I highly doubt any true atheist, that had thought about it critically already, would be swayed by any theists arguments. I reckon most converted "atheists" are really just people who never gave much thought to it one way or the other.
Ascaithe 1 year ago
WHERE IS THIS SHOW.... I MUST WATCH IT.
elmirasahar 1 year ago
@elmirasahar On channel 9! It starts at 7 pm
Paulwhoisvegan 1 year ago
@Paulwhoisvegan haha, i happen to know this is a turkish show, and HAS not been made yet.
elmirasahar 1 year ago
But what if atheists don't want conversion? Ah, I see. Convert them anyway. After all, they need it, even if they don't know it. They are in religious denial after all.
AmerikanBuddha 1 year ago
@AmerikanBuddha What? That's like saying "what if black people don't want to be white?"
Paulwhoisvegan 1 year ago
i keep trying to find a clip from the show they are talking about , but no luck : (
BabyGirlGoddess 1 year ago
I couldn't imagine anything more pointless than having a group meeting where a bunch of people get together and try to show who's invisible friend is better, and a small rational minority who knows there's no proof for any of it but nobody else wants to listen to them.
logik316 1 year ago 2
xccmannx... pick up a book called 'why people believe weird things'. Or 'demon haunted world'. Those would be good starting points for you to attempt to educate yourself. Seriously, if you're seeing demons and crazy shit, you have some serious psychological issues. Help yourself... it's not healthy to believe the things you do!
mooseflier 1 year ago
I want to be on it!
DSD1v57BG32 1 year ago
Is Ana Kasparian an Atheist?
Rainmaker1113 1 year ago
You know what I want to see ...I want to watch the moment a chilled out agnostic with enough knowlage of ethics; history and science is pushed to far by the connections they're making in thier brain and flip-out on everybody with a shrill & strident atheististic tirade. 8) joy.joy
temporaldisplacement 1 year ago
so i guess by the shows standards, its okay to teach your children religion because they are already getting other view points when they go to public schools.
Gods0n1 1 year ago
Atheist rebuttal oops more technical difficultys
And now Islams augment (guy runs in swinging a sword) every one is now a happy Muslim
darkblood626 1 year ago
And now the Christians augment (God loves you but if you dont love him and use the so called free will he gave you or are unfortunate enough to be born in a country where it was not in his divine plan to make u Christian then you will burn forever but dont worry he has already sacrificed himself to himself to forgive you for the rules he made or he got some random innocent dude to die for the though crimes of every one else, err, we have best partys
darkblood626 1 year ago
First the augment from Buddhism (well if you, oops technical difficultys
Atheist rebuttal oops more technical difficultys
we will be right back
darkblood626 1 year ago
LOVE THIS!!!!!!
93alvbjo 1 year ago
TURK STATS
(from wikipedia)
Belief in a god 95%
95 percent conservative religious nuts in turkey?
Most atheist countries are czech, estonia, and sweden.
SeeProfileForDetails 1 year ago
@SeeProfileForDetails nuts? show some fucking respect
xccmannx 1 year ago
@xccmannx
Why would anyone show respect for a belief in magical creatures?
mooseflier 1 year ago
@mooseflier and yet how can people be so rude?
i dont care what you believe, i will respect it, and you.
just dont walk around disrespecting someone just cause of what they belive in..
its not cool, and you know it, just wait until someone comes along totally shuting you down and disrespecting you just because you belive in something.
xccmannx 1 year ago
@xccmannx
So, you would show respect for the idea that microscopic pink and blue stripped dinosaurs roam the surface of Pluto, should someone hold that belief?
If everyone respected every belief out there, then there would be no cause for mental institutions, as 'anything goes'. Any idea, no matter how crazy, would be accepted.
Instead, we have something called reason. And we should use it more often.
mooseflier 1 year ago
@mooseflier you cant compare that with crazy people, everyone knows crazy people are crazy except other people..
and you can disrespect what people believe when we all know for a fact that it is totally impossible.
xccmannx 1 year ago
@xccmannx
Well, you see xcc... the only thing that stops religious fanatics from being called 'crazy people', as you put it, is the wide acceptance of the idea. You might call someone who believed in Thor or Zeus or Neptune crazy today, but in their own time they were much like today's Christian.
I'm sorry bud, but if you believe in invisible beings watching you, or that you can talk to these magical beings, or in talking snake, virgin births, etc... you are indeed crazy.
mooseflier 1 year ago
@mooseflier i seeee..so, what do you believe? obviously whatever you believe..you think is right.
just like the people who thoiught the earth was covered like a caccoon and we never really saw space, or the people that though the earth was flat.
i wouldnt call them crazy.
those were disproven, can anyone totally disprove God?
no.
xccmannx 1 year ago
@xccmannx
"can anyone totally disprove God?"
Can anyone disprove the tooth faerie? No. You see, you have the argument backwards. It is not the duty of you or me to disprove someone's claim that there is a tooth faerie, now is it? No, it's the duty of the person making the incredible claim to back it up... in this case, the person claiming that there is a tooth faerie. You can't prove there isn't one, but that doesn't lend any credibility to the idea. Same applies to God.
mooseflier 1 year ago
@mooseflier i can understand that...so since no on e can disprove him.. why do you talk with confidence about him being unreal?
xccmannx 1 year ago
@xccmannx
Would you not talk with confidence that Santa Clause is not real? You cannot disprove him.
I can say with confidence that God is not real because there is zero supporting evidence. And I would argue, that there is a fair amount of evidence that the loving God of the Bible does not exist, even though it cannot be disproven.
More importantly though, religion OFTEN leads to negative impacts on it's believers and/or society. In short, it's dangerous.
mooseflier 1 year ago
@mooseflier ACTUALLY there is proof of God..Noahs ark.. and some more stuff.. but best of all.. I have my own proof..I've seen shit that ahtiests can't explain..
what then?
xccmannx 1 year ago
"ACTUALLY there is proof of God..Noahs ark"
About every four or five years a claim is made that Noah's Ark has been found. Seems there's quite a few Noah's Ark's out there! And each time, religious fanatics who actually believe that ABSURD Biblical story whoop and holler that proof has been found for their beliefs.
This year's newest Noah's Ark is in an undisclosed location, with no scientists allowed to examine anything. Yet you find this compelling evidence. Your standards are poor.
mooseflier 1 year ago