The music at around the 2 minute mark was also used in the "Adventures of Superman" 1950's TV show - usually when the "man of steel" was dealing with kryptonite.(not fire).
The Pennsylvania was merged with the New York Central in the late 1960s to form Penn Central, after bankruptcy in the mid-1970s, it was merged with several others under nationalized US Federal control as 'Conrail'. After being privatized and returned to profitability in the 1980s, Conrail was subsequently divided between CSX and Norfolk Southern. The ex PRR mainline across Pennsylvania is now a Norfolk Southern mainline, while NYC's trackage across New York State is now part of CSX.
That seems dangerous how they are pushing the employees to fight fires without wearing any protective gear. I guess these were the days before OSHA! lol
It's funny how they describe the complicated use of the inbuilt CO2 system first, then notify about the most convenient portable extinguishers. It is assumed, perhaps, that the complicated system should be tried first, but when in doubt, "pull them all." Wouldn't more portable extinguishers work better?
When I operate GEEP units and F units the emergency release valve during inspection is horrible. WHEN YOU TURN IT COVER YOUR EARS!!!! It is loud as the train horn!
I wonder how many people died from going into a enclosed space filled with toxic smoke and spraying CO2 everywhere, because the big bosses told them to.
@paullubliner Yeah mate. #1, young: 29 in fact. #2 immature: spot on. #3: do not know a thing about car bodies or their operation.: yep just a rail fan... However... ...I do know that this video presents a very dangerous situation that quite possibly has resulted in some deaths. These days; common practice taught is to never ever enter a confined space unknown with out correct equipment. Simply because, people die in these situations. Sorry if this seems silly to you.
@WeldinMike27: Hey a big Thank You for stepping up like that! Remember, those old cab units were well known by their crews. When inside, due to the full length filtration grilles, roof top fans etc., they do seem rather more open than what one may suspect. Depending on the severity of the fire, one decides for one's self if it's worth fighting. The thermocouples are sensitive and the alarms go off rather early in the sequence of events.
@paullubliner Thanks mate. We still have these old girls running in mainline service in Australia. El Zorro have a number of them leased. They are restored to original conditon, B and S classes. As we call them.
Gee, you think the engineers were confused about the fire suppression systems? I was confused watching the video. At the end it eventually made sense. But really, it was a confusing design.
@bmomjian UP tells their train crews only to use the fire ext. to get out of danger, not to try and put the fire out. That's the job for the fire department.
It's pretty obvious that crew safety was not a concern back then. The company can replace a locomotive. They can't replace a life. Now a days we stop and let it burn. The engine crew in the beginning of the film was exactly right to stop and get the hell off.
@scobrown1 I don't think I'd want to fight a fire in the engine compartment without firegear and SCBA. Seems like they would have designed a dump system that would dump all the cylinders at once into the engine room.
@scobrown1 Hi! I am wondering about that too. I am sure there are still Fire Safety Equipment on board just in case, but in a worst case scenario, it's better to get off the thing than stay on. I guess you have to consider just how bad is it. Is it just a little spark that made a little flame, or is it...OMG! IT'S GONNA BLOW! What rail company are you from and have you had a lot of experience with this before? Locomotives look pretty safe but I know there are things to worry about.
@Showgirl7able I'm an engineer for CSX. July 4th last year I burnt up a UP engine on a coal train. Call out the fire department. They came and I said let it burn. Burned up the entire engine compartment clear to the alternator. We have PK powder extinguishers on board. We only used them to exit the locomotive not to put out or fight the fire. As I stated before the company can replace an engine. They can't replace me.
Musta been a helluva 4th! Glad you got out ok because like you said, they can replace an engine not people, (can you imagine the lawsuits?) CSX I love them. I was just at the hobby store and they have REALLY NICE MTH, Lionel and a few other CSX's available. Not affordable to me, (I get stuff used. 1957 Lionel was given to me, the Conrail loco. I bought for $55.00) But yes, I see CSX around Station Square in Pgh. Well stay safe in the big trains! We'll be praying for you! :)
@redmus1959 . More weird to see them not smoking while this is being filmed. There were ashtrays every where back in the day.. cause virtually every one smoked all the time.
@skinnyshit8888 Lehrfilm: Staplerfahrer Klaus - Der erste Arbeitstag : Try this one . it is not very serious but quite funny. It is a work from a film projekt school.
Hey, it's a fire. *use 100lbs CO2* Oops, we need more. *pull another station, use another 100lbs CO2* Heh, we're out again. *pull the rest of the locomotives, use 400lbs CO2* Hey! fire's out!
@legomad11 : Men acted like men back then, they did not start panicking because they knew that did not "like" help the situation. Thats why your grandfather was probably a better man than you are ........ : )
Splendid, the whole film is full of nostalgia, Alco engines, GG1s, staff and managers who cared enough to have films like this made, old cars, old buildings and old autos. Thank you
Got a fire in your locomotive? No problem, just get right in there and follow this simple fifteen-step procedure.
AlexR2648 1 week ago 2
I keep expecting this to turn into a MST3K skit.
blackened300a 1 week ago 2
The music at around the 2 minute mark was also used in the "Adventures of Superman" 1950's TV show - usually when the "man of steel" was dealing with kryptonite.(not fire).
mceon 1 week ago
5755 is a beautiful looking ALCO
generationll 2 weeks ago
fuck it!!, let it burn!!!
arkie74 2 weeks ago
I made it to 01:24
AgentABC12345 3 weeks ago
Sorry boys, fire's out. You can go back to the station now.
fiddlerpin 4 weeks ago
SCARIER to think the last thing I shot in Tuscan (4877 at South Amboy) was taken over 30 years ago!
paullubliner 1 month ago
Great vid! Thanks for posting it. Brings back memories of the good old days when employees and employers cared about there work.
Northernstar9370 1 month ago
That vid was cool, our world has really changed, just the music in the background is not like anything you would hear today. Pure nostalgia.
Bmants 1 month ago
Also, PRR's major passenger services, including the Northeast Corridor (NEC), were taken over by Amtrak at their startup in 1971.
mgk920 1 month ago
The Pennsylvania was merged with the New York Central in the late 1960s to form Penn Central, after bankruptcy in the mid-1970s, it was merged with several others under nationalized US Federal control as 'Conrail'. After being privatized and returned to profitability in the 1980s, Conrail was subsequently divided between CSX and Norfolk Southern. The ex PRR mainline across Pennsylvania is now a Norfolk Southern mainline, while NYC's trackage across New York State is now part of CSX.
mgk920 1 month ago
That's the same music that was used in the 1950's Superman shows!
melevy 1 month ago
Does anybody know if the Pennsy still offers passenger service into Atlantic City?
Wa3ypx 1 month ago
@Wa3ypx Pennsy is gone, it was absorbed into Amtrak
IDF1987 1 month ago
@IDF1987 WOW, guess I missed out. I was at the airport when my train pulled in!
Wa3ypx 1 month ago
@Wa3ypx Loading bags... right?
paullubliner 1 month ago
@paullubliner No just getting loaded
Wa3ypx 4 weeks ago
@IDF1987 I know you are young, but why don't you just "Google" the Pennsylvania Railroad?
paullubliner 1 month ago
@paullubliner Yes, and in 1968 they became the Penn Central Transportatoin Company and in 1976 that became part of Amtrak.
IDF1987 1 month ago
The announcer sounds like Harry Von Zell.
manidig 1 month ago
That seems dangerous how they are pushing the employees to fight fires without wearing any protective gear. I guess these were the days before OSHA! lol
bchs98 1 month ago
Tom: "Dammit Jim, the engine's on fire again."
Jim: "Again? [sigh]"
SeberHusky 2 months ago
Whooo BH-50 "Centipede" at 15:12 alert! Nice.
spiccybaby 2 months ago
@spiccybaby It must be the more modern equipment since the fire system is the easiest to use. Right?
Wa3ypx 1 month ago
It's funny how they describe the complicated use of the inbuilt CO2 system first, then notify about the most convenient portable extinguishers. It is assumed, perhaps, that the complicated system should be tried first, but when in doubt, "pull them all." Wouldn't more portable extinguishers work better?
pryletoncyo 3 months ago
it's funny how they're like "oh, the engine's on fire" and then the guy just walks over to the engine room so calmly...
TheMrFoofey 3 months ago
Nice video, but I keep instinctively expecting a rifftrax of it like
Narrator: "The fireman had to bale in a lot of coal, to keep the old girl hot!"
Mike Nelson: "His wife's a lifelong anthracite fetishist"
Wafflepudding 3 months ago
I want the Pennsy back!!!!!
LordoftheKaty 3 months ago
"Road delay, slight; physical damage: negligible; financial loss: none" Oh and personal injury none, too. Yea, there's that. Of course.
JeffHallPlaysFenders 3 months ago
Was it really on fire? That would be a waste of such a beauty! :P
TrainmasterSP 3 months ago
When I operate GEEP units and F units the emergency release valve during inspection is horrible. WHEN YOU TURN IT COVER YOUR EARS!!!! It is loud as the train horn!
GoldenCreekValleyRR 3 months ago
If that was a hollywood movie, The locomotives would have blown up
The5150Clown 3 months ago
Is I a in-jun-ear now?
TheMrBlinx 4 months ago
The Old "Superman" series dramatic music makes this even cooler than it would be on it's own.
furyiiiplate 4 months ago 2
@furyiiiplate I kept waiting for George Reeves to show up and blow out the fire.
furyiiiplate 4 months ago
There only a fire on board no need to rush or anything
TheTrainman888 4 months ago
Bad acting... still better than Hugh Jackman though.
LS6Z28 5 months ago
Yeah boys, take that water fog nozzle right up in the electrical cabinet....!!!
And lets go into an enclosed space with CO2 all over the place. Yeah right.
choirboyfromhell1 5 months ago
"these guys used their equipment and worked fast" lol
alexander1485 5 months ago
How could they tell if the Alco was on fire through all that smoke?
Indyrail 5 months ago
I wonder how many people died from going into a enclosed space filled with toxic smoke and spraying CO2 everywhere, because the big bosses told them to.
WeldinMike27 5 months ago
@WeldinMike27 It's quite well ventilated with full length carbody filters.
paullubliner 1 month ago
@paullubliner Yeah right, you go first. I'll send the fire fighters in with the SCBA to get your corpse out.
WeldinMike27 4 weeks ago
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paullubliner 3 weeks ago
@paullubliner Yeah mate. #1, young: 29 in fact. #2 immature: spot on. #3: do not know a thing about car bodies or their operation.: yep just a rail fan... However... ...I do know that this video presents a very dangerous situation that quite possibly has resulted in some deaths. These days; common practice taught is to never ever enter a confined space unknown with out correct equipment. Simply because, people die in these situations. Sorry if this seems silly to you.
WeldinMike27 3 weeks ago
@WeldinMike27: Hey a big Thank You for stepping up like that! Remember, those old cab units were well known by their crews. When inside, due to the full length filtration grilles, roof top fans etc., they do seem rather more open than what one may suspect. Depending on the severity of the fire, one decides for one's self if it's worth fighting. The thermocouples are sensitive and the alarms go off rather early in the sequence of events.
paullubliner 3 weeks ago
@paullubliner Thanks mate. We still have these old girls running in mainline service in Australia. El Zorro have a number of them leased. They are restored to original conditon, B and S classes. As we call them.
Hope you have a great day. Kindest regards Mick
WeldinMike27 3 weeks ago 2
@WeldinMike27 Mick, do take some semaphore signal photos before they're all gone!!!!
paullubliner 3 weeks ago
@paullubliner
I still run them myself in Auran's Trainz TS12! :-)
Clavichordist 1 week ago
well there's your problem...
GOCHICOAPRODUCTIONS 5 months ago
Gee, you think the engineers were confused about the fire suppression systems? I was confused watching the video. At the end it eventually made sense. But really, it was a confusing design.
bmomjian 5 months ago
@bmomjian UP tells their train crews only to use the fire ext. to get out of danger, not to try and put the fire out. That's the job for the fire department.
turnoutjim 4 months ago
i wish i could go back to that time i would not have the net but so what thing wher better than
sertox12345 6 months ago
"Nevermind boys, fire's out." ... I would be like, "WTF!"
SantaFebuff 6 months ago
AWESOME!!!
dwkcamman611 6 months ago
It's pretty obvious that crew safety was not a concern back then. The company can replace a locomotive. They can't replace a life. Now a days we stop and let it burn. The engine crew in the beginning of the film was exactly right to stop and get the hell off.
scobrown1 6 months ago
@scobrown1 I don't think I'd want to fight a fire in the engine compartment without firegear and SCBA. Seems like they would have designed a dump system that would dump all the cylinders at once into the engine room.
ffjsb 5 months ago
@scobrown1 Hi! I am wondering about that too. I am sure there are still Fire Safety Equipment on board just in case, but in a worst case scenario, it's better to get off the thing than stay on. I guess you have to consider just how bad is it. Is it just a little spark that made a little flame, or is it...OMG! IT'S GONNA BLOW! What rail company are you from and have you had a lot of experience with this before? Locomotives look pretty safe but I know there are things to worry about.
Showgirl7able 4 months ago
@Showgirl7able I'm an engineer for CSX. July 4th last year I burnt up a UP engine on a coal train. Call out the fire department. They came and I said let it burn. Burned up the entire engine compartment clear to the alternator. We have PK powder extinguishers on board. We only used them to exit the locomotive not to put out or fight the fire. As I stated before the company can replace an engine. They can't replace me.
scobrown1 4 months ago
@scobrown1
Musta been a helluva 4th! Glad you got out ok because like you said, they can replace an engine not people, (can you imagine the lawsuits?) CSX I love them. I was just at the hobby store and they have REALLY NICE MTH, Lionel and a few other CSX's available. Not affordable to me, (I get stuff used. 1957 Lionel was given to me, the Conrail loco. I bought for $55.00) But yes, I see CSX around Station Square in Pgh. Well stay safe in the big trains! We'll be praying for you! :)
Showgirl7able 4 months ago
@scobrown1 OH yes THEY CAN, but YOU can't!
paullubliner 1 month ago
Marasm, as about nuclear war danger!!!!!!
114series 6 months ago
Interesting and cool video. Weird to see an ashtray on the conference table.
redmus1959 6 months ago 12
@redmus1959
Maybe they were hoping a cigarette would start a fire that they could practice putting out ;-)
wdtvlive42 6 months ago 16
@redmus1959 . More weird to see them not smoking while this is being filmed. There were ashtrays every where back in the day.. cause virtually every one smoked all the time.
911caddy 6 months ago
Ah, Pennsylvania Railroad. Two words all railfans will never forget.
Roboman2121 6 months ago
"The Pennsylvania Railroad Presents: Cutting Corners To Benefit Your Shareholders"
Just kidding around Pennsy commet-responder guy, please take no offense
LackawannaLtdVideos 6 months ago
Like that beautiful looking ALCO
generationll 6 months ago
now why the fuck can't they make videos like this TODAY
skinnyshit8888 6 months ago
@skinnyshit8888 Lehrfilm: Staplerfahrer Klaus - Der erste Arbeitstag : Try this one . it is not very serious but quite funny. It is a work from a film projekt school.
kratzikatz1 6 months ago
Just goes to show steam engines will have their revenge one way or another
modeltrainman12345 6 months ago
Great scenes of the old Pennsylvania Railroad
Ella73TV2 6 months ago
nice
SuperNJTRANSIT 7 months ago
Nice rare short from Pennsylvania Railroad! 8D
RahkshiPoopi 7 months ago
Hey, it's a fire. *use 100lbs CO2* Oops, we need more. *pull another station, use another 100lbs CO2* Heh, we're out again. *pull the rest of the locomotives, use 400lbs CO2* Hey! fire's out!
TankCrusher210 7 months ago 2
loved the old alco FA's neat find
bassman34516 7 months ago
Great training video!
metraF40PH163 7 months ago
its funny how the drivers like "oh the engines on fire" thumbs up if you agree
legomad11 7 months ago 29
@legomad11 : Men acted like men back then, they did not start panicking because they knew that did not "like" help the situation. Thats why your grandfather was probably a better man than you are ........ : )
Bmants 1 month ago
Splendid, the whole film is full of nostalgia, Alco engines, GG1s, staff and managers who cared enough to have films like this made, old cars, old buildings and old autos. Thank you
backnumber1662 8 months ago 16
i like how calm they are about the fire in the engine. He takes his dandy time to get some co2 on the scene. Thanks for posting. Great vid.
brucefetter 8 months ago 14
@brucefetter
Don't forget this is all staged for the camera in a controlled environment. Having said that, staying calm in an emergency is the best thing to do!
wdtvlive42 8 months ago 7
@wdtvlive42 Unless you're Michael Scott or Dwight Schrute in that case you run like hell and cause an even more hectic situation.
A very nice video. That thought well when putting this together.
mrodriguez4829 1 month ago
beautiful looking diesel units then todays crap on rails
Bignadim 8 months ago
Wow, awesome. Thanks a bunch for posting this!
mathuetax 8 months ago
great vid, guy
98bennyj 8 months ago
awesome just awesome
truck501 9 months ago 2