Second Style Victor Record Changer

[MixerVM]

Neat design! Why dont they make stuff like that today?

[hackller]

how does it get over the fact that you usually have to change the needle every play?

[recordchangerman]

@hackller There were needles capable of 75 or so plays at the time.

[eclecticdufus]

Amazing this was devised and produced at a time when many phonographs including Victor Orthophonics were still equipped with spring motors. I wince seeing the rough ejection of the record. The changer would have been too slow when playing classical albums with continuous music.

[Trance88]

Thats one of the coolest changers I've ever seen! It looks like a sort of harsh ejection system though.

[manidig]

The turntable is going too slow, by the way.

[robertrobin10]

people were sure patient back then i think the changing took almost as long as the song on the record!!!!

[TuneStunnaProds]

@robertrobin10 Thats what I wonder, was this design a marvel at the time and people didnt care how long the changer took? Did this changer rival what other changers were available at the time?

[cowtippingrocks]

wow thats neet!



[kraftpr]

A fascinating machine to watch but what a "Rube Goldberg" apparatus! Recorded sound and technology have sure come a long way since those early days

[PKamargo]

Would be just perfect if the mechanism was as gentle to reject as it is to get another record for play. It was so unexpected to see it throwing the record that way after see it putting it to play that slow way!

[rocknrollrocks98]

damage the records when he is another late play?

sorry for my bad english i come from holland:)



[recordchangerman]

@rocknrollrocks98 The records from the 1920s were pretty strong, but there may have been a little damage due to the records sliding across each other, particularly if there was dust or dirt on the record. The records from the 1940s or later are more fragile. The turntable is coated in rubber to help throw the record into the bin, but today this rubber has lost its grip so sometimes a record does not get out of the way of the ring, causing it to break.

[recordchangerman]

@rocknrollrocks98 probably when new, there was not a problem. Today, the rubber on the turntable is hard and does not provide the friction required to get the record out of the way.

[pongboy1100]

@rocknrollrocks98 aw cool! nog een nederlander die 78 toeren platen geweldig vind! Heb jiji een originele platenspeler?

[458698]

thats an entrusting player its really nice but man the way it rejects the vinyls is just something

[Seto8881]

unbelive

[Turkeydoodlers]

Why do you have plumbers tflon tape behind the reproducer? Or is that what that is on there?

[recordchangerman]

@Turkeydoodlers The tape is there to provide a more airtight seal. The original rubber gasket is now hard and doesn't provide the tight fit that it once did.

[mdmphd]

This is the reason I loves me some youtube on a Sunday afternoon. Absolutely amazing - and I would never put my 78s into that reject mode. My ear just can't take that sound of shellac on metal - but thanks so much for posting!!

[OpenWindowsUnboxing]

Youre faster in learning an instrument as for waiting on the start of the vynil :d

[09freitas]

INCRÍVEL!

[oooowwwwdddd]

Amazing design for 1928. Was the 2nd record "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes" ? 

[recordchangerman]

@oooowwwwdddd Yes.  I looked for the record to tell you the artist, but have filed it someplace, and it hasn't turned up yet.

[RussianThickness1]

wow that looks healthy for the record

[Madness832]

Doesn't the eject damage the underside of the record? That screechy noise made me cringe!

[recordchangerman]

@Madness832 It doesn't seem to.  The old shellac records were pretty hard. There is a roller on top of the carpeted lip, and it rotates as the record passes over it, so that helps.

[misterintellivision]

that is an awesome record changer!

I find it funny that it very gently puts the record on the player and then tosses it off :)

[orallarry]

As Hazel would say, ''That's a doozy!''

but it sure makes me glad I'm not a '78'.

[ShitFromShinolla]

That is incredible. I had no idea the original record changer was designed so far back as 1928. Such an intricate design mechanism so gentle on the records.

[recordchangerman]

The first popular disc record changer was introduced by Victor in 1927, but there were others on the market a decade earlier. They were not successful in the marketplace. There were cylinder record changers available before the turn of the 20th century.

[ShitFromShinolla]

@recordchangerman Thanks, is this driven by an electric motor or is this an original wind up.

[recordchangerman]

This is driven by an electric motor.  Most of the cylinder record changers were spring powered, but I am not aware of any disc record changers that were.

[Bocc5495]

cool i have a 1906 victrola but it needs work oh yeah can u use a needle more than once?

[recordchangerman]

The standard steel needle should only be used once, but there are some needles that can be used for 75 or more plays. The recommended needle for this changer is the Victor Tungstone, and these can still be found although they have not been made for decades.

[alans1960]

Have you ANY IDEA how valuable this 1920's machine is??? TOTALLY AWESOME! TOTALLY COOL !!!!

[kir4us]

HELP! ear the scratch noise when eject the record... CRASH! :)

[Grammopfohn]

Einfach fantastic maschin und zu jener zeit einfach geil !!

[gtimandan]

What an incredible machine to watch in operation! Fantastic post!

I couldn't help but chuckle and be reminded of an old Jetson's episode where the robotic record player went haywire and violently threw records at the wall to their demise ^.^

Fascinating piece of technology. Any idea the cost of the machine when new?

[recordchangerman]

This particular machine cost $365, but there were other models with this changer. The most expensive was $1750.

[APyleOfVinyl]

@recordchangerman 365 could buy you a 1-story house back in 1928! So, do you want a record changer or a house? :) Neat changer, by the way! Love it, what was the first red seal record? I know I should know that tune! Isn't by Liszt?

[recordchangerman]

@APyleOfVinyl Yes, these were really expensive in their day, but the record player and the radio were the only modern choices for home entertainment. The player piano was on its way out as a center for musical education.

[APyleOfVinyl]

@recordchangerman Oh yes, as soon as electrical recording was invented, out went the player piano! So, what's the name of the first tune on the red seal record?

[eclecticdufus]

@APyleOfVinyl I think the purchaser who could afford it could also afford the house back in the day ;) The record is Rakoczy March by Berlioz (same tune used by Liszt), I think it's Stokowski and Phil Orch 6823.

[Jason1920]

CRUSH... KILL... DESTROY! (That's what I imagine this machine saying if it had a voice!) Also- BAD RECORD! YOU GO BYE NOW! UNGH! *tosses record!*

Nice machine!

[recordchangerman]

Yes, it is rough on records, but the drop type changers had their issues too since the grooves of two records were scraping against each other when the record dropped. RCA addressed this problem with their 45 RPM record which was designed with the grooves recessed below the level of the label. so the grooves would never touch each other.

[edisonphonographs]

That's a good way to break a record.

Thanks

[wdharveyoicu]

Makes me cringe as well! I used to tell my family to NOT TOUCH THE GROOVES on my records, they laughed at me, etc...and now,the regret all those laughgs...but this is SO VIOLENT!!! LOL

[infrogmation]

Cool to see. Is this a Victor Borgia Orthophonic?

[recordchangerman]

This is an Orthophonic, but not the Bogia model. The Borgia did not have a record changer, but the Borgia II offered a choice of acoustic or electric amplification of the record. Both models of the Borgias had radios built in.

[fox2266]

I notice there is a mix of 12" and 10" records. How does the machine know which grove to go into. I knew how this worked with some of the later machines.

Also I noticed when a record was finished the machine would bump the record against something which im my mind could scratch the record on one side. If I were living at the time and owned one of these I don't think I would have been happy about this.

[recordchangerman]

There is a small lever at the back of the lower ring that gets depressed when a 12" record is lowered to the turntable. You can see the lever at the end of the video just before the changer switches off. A 10" record does not quite reach this lever. To discharge a record, one edge is raised, which causes the turntable to fling the record to the side. There is a roller that helps protect the record, but this design is still hard on records especially if it does not fling it hard enough.

[victortalkingmch]

oh, this is painful compared to the first-style victrola changer!

[ChromeBumpers]

very cool to see this working just like back in its day! five *****'s...

[stewartgas]

What a fantastic machine. It really appeals to me. Would be great to see a machine that plays the Pathe 78s and 8Os (the centre start type) Think that they worked with a saphire wheel.

[HartfordTommy]

Dear friends: have you ever been viciously rejected? Well, this wonderful video makes your hurt look like nothing, nothing at all, ha ha!

Wonderful work, recordchangerman, thank you for the demo. You know, there's a Fibber McGee and Molly transcription online, episode dealing with a nasty, vindictive new record changer console--delivered to the McGee home in error...the couple could not resist trying it out. Mayhem and shattered-everything resulted! Love it all.

[osdelced]

Oooops!... Amazing and beautiful gramophone, and long life for the records... XD

[calvertsch]

What an unusual, fascinating reject system--highly enjoyable to watch! Do the records slide over a soft felt surface only to slide then onto previously played easily scratched shellac records? I would fear severe scuffing and scratching of your choice 78s! Thanks for the demonstration!

[radiogram56]

Incredible the reject system!!!

[bURRkEEF]

Awesome player, but please don't use the reject anymore. Makes me cringe!

[vinylman86]

now that is beyond awesome and wow an automatic shut-off.

[tubellarbells]

This must be magic ... where does it get the records from !...and what a killer mechanism to put away poor played records !.

Brilliant contribution to all record changers arqueologists !. Thanks thanks thanks. Amazing to see how far man's genius can get, however sometimes so incorrectly put to the service of destructive powers.

[ninjabluewings]

That Is One AMAZINLY! Clever Piece Of Record Equipment, But Surely It Must Damage Those Records The Way It Rejects Them? It Must Be Worth A Lot Of Money Now As Well, VERY, VERY INTERESTING VIDEO TOO!

[dewey70]

Great vid, nice to see one of these things working!

[muscleco]

I love the way it just discards the records.... like a collector who's found a load of old Doris Day and church choir 78s, when he's hunting for hot bands!

[jakablus]

NICE!

[Jpmadore1]

It's amazing how well-developed technology was 80 years ago. Great record changer, by the way!

[djspiner]

wow what a cool player i never thourt they did thess in thos days it's so cool LET'S SEE MORE OF IT PLZ playing 2 full 78 rpm

[transformingArt]

Nice Video!

By the way....Can you upload a video of these discs fully played? Especially the first one...!