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  • It's amazing how songs can morph. I only knew The Beach Boys version from Pet Sounds. I gave them a great deal of credit for "creating" such a fantastic song. Of course, now I know better. Kingston Trio are awesome.

    But this is the way it is - I prefer Beach Boys version. If I had heard Kingston first, I'm sure it would be a different story - let me go home.

  • They wrote the song, The Beach Boys got rich off of it

  • @claynpendleton Not quite, this song is a very traditional song that was sang a lot in the south. Think like blues circa 1910's and ledbelly style.

  • C'est l'Amérique créative que l'on aime!

    Bons baisers de paris!

  • HOIST UP THE SOUPY SALES

  • Those of you complaining that the song isn't sad enough or doesn't sound enough like the Beach Boys need to understand that songs have different versions. This is exactly how they sang it years before the Brian Wilson version.

  • Really good version. But it could have been a bit sadder for my liking :)

  • @leastyler do you know Lonnie Donegans version of John B ? Can't find it. Better than anything they present here. Damn it !

  • I would really like a collection of their songs of the sea, sailing, etc.

  • A classic tune done well. The original Island version may be best, but all versions are fun and invite singing along. Thanks so much!

  • @mattandcrispin this was at a nightclub in Florida. Bob Shane

  • I love their harmonies. Hey, I think the guy on the right screwed up the lyrics.

  • Speilet skal hjem, speilet skal hjeeem! :)

  • what a great harmon that forces me to love ameri folk song for the 1st time!!!

  • We'll take the urn home!

  • Poet Carl Sandberg gave us the lyrics we all know, in the 1920s. Everything after that is a cover.. some good some not so good.

  • i am from azores islands portugal

    i´m very fond of the kingston trio songs

    and i like very much the american folk songs

  • esta bueno pero yo no lo cambio por la version de RELIENT K

  • swimmer bob - you are a tosser

  • these guys seem really cool in person. i'd love to go bar hopping with them.

  • @Alphabex8 George Grove especially. We saw the Trio in '96 in MIdland, MI. there was a bottleneck of cars trying to get out of the park that they played in, and George stayed and chatted with everyone until it was time for him to leave. Bob Shane was also especially cool, too. Nick Reynolds had just had a hip replacement, so it didn't really seem like he wanted to be there.

  • good rendition

  • i'm 15 and i love this kind of music. here in california, i've rolled my father's range rover, been to rehab 4 tweak and got caught banging my teacher, but the music of the kingston trio has inspired me to get back to the straight and narrow! luv you old farts!

  • THis song is totally castrated compared to the authentic melancholy of the BB version. Total slush this shit.

  • i`d love to see this live it sounds great :)

  • cheers george

  • I've heard many versions but theirs is the best.

  • This is not the Kingston Trio !

  • @ftjax You are correct that it's not what fans would call the Kingston Trio, but it is what Bob Shayne would call the Kingston Trio. He hired all of them. Two to work with him and a third to replace him when his health failed.

    They are legally the Kingston Trio.

  • @howie14w That's good to know. I started watching this, and thought to myself, "I don't remember the Kingston Trio ever sucking this bad!" This bunch have no idea how to do this song.

  • None of these guys are originals of KT.............

  • Me First and The Gimme Gimmes made the best version I've heard

  • whewn i was in 7th grade ] my home room ueacher taught us this song and on fridays we sing it we was a special edclass iwas inchouir 7th  and 8 th' grade we sang this inchoir ilove the son

  • Johnny Cash did a great version in like 59.

  • Very interesting, they have no harmony or something is missing. Oh well,

  • Wow! This is certainly different from the known cover by the B-Boys. Um I don't know what to say.

  • Here is the chord pattern throughout the song. I did not indicate the number of measures each chord is played, but that is pretty evident as one hears the song: G--D--G--C--Am--G--D--G--D

    George Grove

  • @debobwan I'm a descendant of John Bethel, the captain of the John B.

  • @erglesnarf That is really cool. What a legacy you have. Bob Shane

  • @erglesnarf your ancestor wasn't very good at keeping his ship in line

  • @debobwan Interesting. I know the chords as C-G/G7-C-F-C-G/G7-C, I'll try those chords one of these days.

  • whats the guitar tab to this version . im thinking G > C. > D > D7 > C

  • This is the best version of this song I've heard. Odd that their original recording was the _worst_ version I've heard.

  • great song , great band , nobody cheers??

  • Just to join in on the musician debate. Bob Dylan is no instrumentalist but I rate him as a greater musician than any pure guitar player or opera singer.

    Brian Wilson has that genius. I can play quite technically difficult guitar pieces but I can´t make simple things sound good. I wish I could.

  • i beg to differ. there is a simplicity to the music but the singing is superlative, and they're tight as shit.

  • George sang with Bob Shane and Nick Reynolds long enough to be considered a real member of the Trio. These guys do justice to the music, but of course, in our hearts and minds, we hear David and John, along with Nick and Bob. These guys keep the music and feeling alive, even though they are a pretend Trio.

  • if you want to hear one of the best recordings of this 1927 west indies song. pull up Jimmie Rodgers version from 1960, Wreck of the Sloop John B.

  • Mar Kjartansson I always tied this song with the Beach Boys! But thangs for the TIPS on Jimmie Rogers version

  • @markjartansson

    Actually it is a folk song from the Bahamas.

    John B(ethel) was the name of a legendary settler on Eleuthera.

    So it is the "natural" name of a fictional ship...

    Johnny Cash, the Kingston Trio and many, may, many others did their versions of the song.

    And still there arenew versions out there!

  • ICK. I've never appreciated the Beach Boys so much as I do right now listening to this fake Kingston Trio.

  • fake? KT did it before Beach Boys. Let's face it, the Beach Boys are the greatest band in history. Ironic considering they really weren't musicians. They uses studio musicians and had to learn to play instruments to perform live.

  • They all knew how to play their instruments years before they recorded. They played on all their early albums. Only a few albums around 65/66 used primarily studio musicians.

  • Okay, I should clarify myself. There is a difference between being a musician and knowing how to play an instrument. Dennis did not know how to play any instrument.

    Quote from Carl in regard to their first recording Surfin, "None of us knew an instrument well."

    Brian I would say was a true musician but his instrument was piano and although he had an ear for music and a talent for writing it, he wasn't a great piano player.

    You're wrong about them knowing how to play for years.

  • considering the songs Brian wrote from the piano, i'd call him a phenomenal piano player. Same with dennis.

  • Brian was the exception but even for Brian being able to write songs doesn't equate to being a great piano player. When I was in college the song I wrote for my music comp class got published in my professors text book and I had never touched a piano in my life. Dennis didn't know how to play drums and even at his best he wasn't very good.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm as a big of a Beach Boys fan as they come.

  • i see what you're saying. but i think brian can play rhapsody in blue by ear on piano. pretty good. and yeah dennis wasn't a good drummer.

  • Hmmm... I think we just have some miscommunication. I think what you define a good musician and what I define a good musician may be different. Brian in a natural. He is gifted for sure but could he get work as a studio musician on piano or any other instrument? Writing music and understanding music don't equal being a good musician. Hmmm... okay so Brian was obviously good, but not great and the rest of them... pretty good over time but in the beginning?

  • yeah i agree they weren't good at first. but Brian could play all the instruments if he wanted. he's a crazy good musician. he played bass cause nobody else would, he obv played guitar and piano. and then he also played drums. but on a technical level no, he's not "amazing" at any of them. sweet bassist though.

  • @caats19

    I would wonder about the "None of us knew an instrument well" quote since they were always kidding and joking about this or that. I heard BB King say with a dead serious look on his face that he's horrible with the guitar - nor did he laugh afterwards. Should this comment also be taken seriously?

  • @caats19

    and that was in reply to yourmoment - I clicked the wrong "reply"

  • @whotookaegir

    Of course the Kingston Trio knew to play long before 65/66.

    There are a lot of ignorant nerds here..

  • Not bad ! nice rendition.

  • Oh, my. I, too used to go to Boone! What town is this guy from? I'm from Newland...

  • Sheriff John was stoned 1.19 haha

  • This is not really teh Kingston Trio, that is, none of the members were in the original trio. Am I wrong? I am not criticizing their music, but why can't they change their name?

  • i could be wrong about this, but isn't that Bob Shane in the middle (he was with the K3 from 1957-2005) and Nick Reynolds (K3 1957-1967, and 1988-1999) on the right, both were original members of the K3

  • my other right i mean

  • No, they are not in this video. If at least one member of the original trio was in the band I would not have such a problem with them using the name.

  • yer right, i need my specs cleaned. that's George Grove, Bill Zorn and Rick Dougherty. but i don't mind.

  • The Kingston Trio version is the one that inspired Al Jardine to recommend the song to Brian Wilson. Brian Wilson's superb production helped create, in my opinion, the best verson of the song.

  • That IS a great version, however check out Johnny Cash's..

  • @oldstuff Actually, not really. I saw the original group in concert in Austin, TX over 20 years ago and people were calling out for them to play Sloop John B and Bob kind of laughed and said that it was not their song, but they had added to their touring repertoire because everyone asks for it and attributed it to them. It was recorded by the Beach boys.

  • @kathowell08

    Actually, the Kingston Trio recorded it in 1958; the Beach Boys' single was 1966. There are variations of the song going back to the '20s and '30s.

  • @kathowell08 Yes, REALLY. Someone didn't listen closely enough to what Bob said... it's NOT their song, in that they didn't WRITE it and weren't the first to record it. The Weavers did it in 1951, and Blind Blake Higgs did it shortly before that.

    But it was on their first album in 1958, when Brian Wilson was 16 years old. and he DID get it from the KT version.

    First published in 1917 & KT got it from a 1927 Karl Sandburg songbook.  Check "songfacts-dot-com", search titles under "S".

  • @oldstuff Just listen to Jerry Lee Lewis & Van Morrison version of this song to hear a masterpiece.

    Saw the Beach Boys sing live in the 60;s & they were SHIT-HOUSE.The sound was weak & they almost got booed off the stage.This concert was in Melbourne,Australia.

    It just shows you how much is made up in the recording studios,with overdubbing etc.

  • i like it verry much.

    it's a great cover.

  • Dick Dale had a hit with it too before the Beach Boys made it a hit.

  • And in Britain Lonnie Donegan had a notable hit as well. A great song.

  • The Beach Boys did not write Sloop John B, it is and was a West Indies Folk Song, coming from the pre-1900s.

    The Kingston Trio recorded it and had a hit on it way before the Beach Boys did. But this song was also recorded in the mid 1950s and in 1935 and possibly before.

    The Beatles were influenced by not only Elvis Presley, but the Kingston Trio and others. .There have been a lot of greats in the last 50 years, not just the Beatles.

  • The Weavers sing this song in 50s

  • The Beatles are not the most important group in the past 50 years of music.

  • @Anoneeemouse no, they are simply THE music

  • to Spingk: apparently you are the most knowledgable person in the world and all your opinions are fact. What a gift that you spend your considerable wisdom on this site, we mortals are fortunate. Fact.

  • HAHA so the beach boys wrote Sloop John B?-: fiction - you shouldnt just throw bullshit info around like that, buddy. Cause there are a few people who still listen to music from before 1963 - yourself obviously not included.

  • This was at a nightclub in Florida in 2005

  • Aweseme! Any info on where and what year?

  • Fantastic harmonys, u can see they were enjoying theirsells

  • marinamarie is not kidding. Great tune, and well done here. It is NOT a beach boys song and was written and popularized before any of them were born...Killieboy. People like the Beach Boys and Beatles because they are talented and creative

  • i don't dispute that the beatles were talented at playing instruments, i just think their music was bad.

  • Sorry guys. Not the best version I have heard of this song. Bin there. Done that. And I think my group was better than this. No reflection on the original group, however.

  • this is the strangest thing I have ever seen. the guy on the right totally f#$ked up his verse

  • Can some of you critics just sit back and enjoy the music please......

  • it's a beach boys song, but i hate the beatles too. why do so many people like them?!

  • Because they where the biggest and most popular band of all time, written loads of great songs and started a music revolution

  • why were they so big and popular though? their songs were decidedly average. i dont dispute they were an important band, i just think they are very very average and i don't like them

  • everyone is entitled to their opinon and has their favourite bands, The Beatles made excellant songs that still sound good today

  • i disagree respectfully. a lot of bands made and make better music than the beatles

  • Out of interest, who you would you say are/where a better band or bands

  • red hot chili peppers are my favourite band of all time. they work hard and make great music, and have done for 25 years. theyre a consistently hard-working band who always put on a show and make great music. lyrically and musically, i find their songs have tons more depth than any beatles song. thought i'd justify it for you too. you have to admit, the beatles are overrated. maybe not bad, but overrated.

  • Well thats where you and I differ, I think the chili peppers are ok but they are also overated. The Beatles where hard working also, and 2 of the members are still creating brilliant music to this day! The Chili Peppers also did a cover version of a Beatles song so id say that if they would agree

  • red hot chili peppers arent overrated. even though all four members of red hot chili peppers are themselves beatles fans, i am proud to stand up and say i don't like them as a band. even their ok songs i like only because of covers. i like every red hot chili peppers song and i think that all four members are exceptional musicians and they all have an exceptional knowledge of and passion for music. thats my justification for why they're the best band in the world. in my opinion of course dmata

  • I really, really like this version-even more than the original Kingston Trio version (the Dr. Loveless version is good, too, BTW).

  • my dad got turfed in jail with one of these guys back in the 60s

  • Well, not one of THESE guys, since they weren't in the Kingston Trio in the 60s. This is the current wonderful incarnation of the classic group - l-r in the video George Grove, Bill Zorn, and Rick Daugherty. The original group that recorded this on their first album included Bob Shane and the late Dave Guard and recently deceased Nick Reynolds. The late John Stewart joined the band when Guard left.

  • Lucky Dad!

  • cool video-i mett george grove and bob shane and nick eynolds-matter fact i got there autographs-im looking for a solo george grove did called-[looking for the sunshine]thanks for video

  • I like the version of the dutch "De IJsselmannen"better. Specially the Bongo,s on it.

    Edward van Arom

  • Not the original! But not bad, well, maybe mediocre.

  • Not sure if its the orig' Trio, but no matter, great, strong yet tuneful performance, where the slight ethnic take off could not possibly offend anyone, superb.

  • this is really cute but the beach boys version is just amazing and flawless vocally. this is nice tho!

  • the beach boys version is about deprivation, bullying and homoerotic longings...it is brilliant beyond words...

  • thats your interpretation

  • yes, it is, piggy!

    what's your interpretation....i think you'll find that i'm right. english people usually are - especially in literary and musical discussions.

    have a cup of tea.

  • Im allergic to tea but I'll have a coke and a smile. I forgot english folk usually dont get obvious sarcasm. Maybe you should stick with the Beetles :)

  • And being English meself I think you'll find it's spelt BeAtles with an A - yes, Uclrichard IS right - the English usually are right - ISn't it BORING! Have another cuppa something and Cheers!!!

  • Well that missing A wasan other head butt to mr uclrichard and actually Im having a Coke right now actually. I don know anting bout literature ma'am but generally english lit is a bore ask Bukowski

  • The English think they're always correct...just ask them!

  • way to sound up yourself

  • beautiful! a legend!

    5***** :)

  • this is cool, but the beach boys version is just brilliant, genius

  • fantaastic this is the way this song should be done!!!

  • Is anyone else reminded of "A Mighty Wind"? lol

  • If this is the Kingston Trio then I'm the Philadelphia Symphony Orchestra.

  • this is not the kingston trio.

  • yea -- i saw these guys in louisville with the louisville orchestra. i guess they're touring as a kindof tribute band...during the show they talked about where the original members are now and stuff like that.

    even though it wasnt the same, it was still cool to hear the songs live

  • not the ones you're thinking of

  • Actually, Titanic, it is a West Indian folk song, first recorded on record in the 1930s. I remember Jim Ed Brown and sisters singing it at the Grand Ole Oprey in the 50s, but was actually transcribed by the famous 50s folk group The Weavers.

  • lovely addicting! I can't stop watching it,lol!

    sorry TitanicTarn, but the Beach Boys' version isn't the original, this song is much older than them.

    and I disagree from you, I don't think their version is better than this one. but this is only my point of view, you know.

  • The Beach Boys original was better

  • Partly right. The BB Al Jardine was a KT fan and got the song from the KT's first album, as he attests in print and on video. BUT - the original KT version (1958) was VERY different from this - slower, quieter. This troupe of the KT is doing something rather like the BB arrangement.

  • No disrespect to these guys, but the 1960's folk duo Bud & Travis did it best. Well, certainly differently! Much more up-tempo, and as they themselves introduced it "Those of you who know the song, forget it, please don't sing". There are two versions of Bud & Travis's recording available... if you're lucky enough to find it, listen to the one with the extended intro and patter. Brilliant!

  • not quite the same lyrics the Beach Boys used, but as I am a die hard fan, I will always say the BB version is much better, and thats not knocking the Kingston Trio as I enjoy listening to them sing.

  • Interesting point, though - you know that Al J. was a big KT fan and Brian W. wasn't. The KT version originally (1958) was slow, somber, almost bluesy. The BB did it more like the Weavers (who first recorded it) - but the BB version is stunning in vocals and harmony. Both the BB and KT versions are classics but very different. This KT troupe, however, is doing something rather more like the BB than their own original arrangement.

  • Hmmm.... pretty good. The only thing "Kingston Trio" original is the going back to 6 string guitar, tenor guitar and banjo. Not that I'm complaining, though. I'll still pull out the old git box and play along.

  • Who are these guys?

  • the kingston trio

  • Man, greatttttttt.

    Those harmonies. You have like a gret vibe, that travelled all over to Argentina at my house at 4 in the morning!

    greattttt

  • Rest in Peach, John Stewart.

  • Was this the original 'pop' recording of sloop john b, ie. PRIOR to the Beach Boys' version? If not, which group did precede that BB's version?

  • The original Kingston Trio (Bob Shane, Dave Guard and Nick Reynolds) recorded Sloop John B before the Beachboys did. Perfoming it here is the current Kingston Trio lineup of George Grove, Bill Zorn and Rick Dougherty.

  • Thank you, debobwan. Just for clarity, did any other group also record it? And/or, was it the K Trio version that was popularized and on the 'hit parade'?

  • read the wikipedia entry- it's an oldie - VERY oldie lol

  • There is also a great Johnny Cash version of this song. Look it up on YouTube. The song itself is a classic folk song and was recorded for the first time somewhere in the 1920's.

  • Incredibly beautiful

  • I think this song was recorded by a lot others, at least 8 or 10 other artists. But the Beachboys had the big hit on it.

  • Hi debobwan. where did you get this recording from.

    thanks

    stauter

  • Hi Stauter,

    The video was recorded at a private party in Florida in 2006. It comes from a DVD from the party that we own.

    Thanks,

    The Kingston Trio

  • It's good to see Bill Zorn again. He, his brother and their friends had a band that played in a pizza parlor in Pheonix back in the late 60's. They were very talented and had a big following. They also did USO shows as I recall. I did a photo for the cover of a record they produced.

  • Hey, thanks for commenting. Good to hear from you again. You're still in Phoenix, I understand. Good times!

    Bill Zorn

  • I didn't know these guys were still around. When was this video made?

  • Great performance

  • Wow, added only 6 days ago; luck timing for me! Thanks.

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