Haywood Community College Conduit Bending Three Point Saddle

[Doug19752533]

also the "tier drop" is the center of 45 degree bends. the center for a 60 will be in a different place

[jfalbo]

@Doug19752533 thanks for your comments. I will take them into consideration.

[Doug19752533]

a 30/60/30 saddle is insane and stupid. thats WAY too much bend that short a distance - 120 degrees! a 22/45/22 saddle is the classic one taught. i personally do 15/30/15 on my 3 points. also i pre locate the center of the bends on my bender with scrap pipe and use a push through method similar to using a chicago bender, makes it much easier!

[QTheLibertine]

@Doug19752533 I agree, I usually use 15/30/15 or a 22/45/22 when I have to. Interesting side note, It is not in the ugly or on the bender but the multiplier for 15 degrees, is four.

[45mbfrazier]

The black or grey conduit is called plastibond.It comes in either ARC(aluminum ridgid conduit)or GRC(galvinized ridgid conduit) It is used in underground or hazardous-corrosive applications,because of its vinyl coating.You do have to use oversized benders and threading dies for this conduit,hope this helps.

[jadycm84]

to mnupnow....I am an industrial/commercial electrician. When doing retro's and service calls, some times there is no other way besides bending a 3-point saddle. This is a great video for a reminder. Although, using 15-30-15's is a lot easier on the pull! lol

[DrizztDO1988]

black conduit is called black enamel. its shite

[henson3260]

Nice video.

[justinlf16]

rodroy-plasterbodn, all it is is rubber coated rigid to prevent it from rusting, used alot in upper end commercial and industrial jobs, fun to bend and thread

[Johnstone72]

In th UK we have a free standing pipe vice and bender. After bending your conduit, you clamp it in the vice then cut & thread it. Also with those crazy American benders how do you take out any twists in your saddle sets?....'bubble sets'

In the UK Electricians are the worst paid trade.....painters get more money!! Plus it's all agency sub contract. Shit money, long hours, no overtime rates, no holiday pay, no sick pay.

If you'd like to adopt a British Electrician etc etc etc

[mufc1970ok]

is that true mate

[RusBodybuilder]

@Johnstone72 move to Canada.

[jeffer2m]

whats that black conduit called? i seen some other teams of electricians install it underground at a jobsite. i hear its made out of fiberglass but i forget the trade name and how to bend it.

[jfalbo]

dont know

[mnupnow]

its called pvc coated pipe.its galvanized pipe coated with pvc used in very wet conditions such as highways water treatment plants etc.you need a special threader n bending shoe for threading and bending respectively.

[khaliddrb1]

@jeffer2m ABS

[Tac0L0c0]

@jeffer2m I only know it as poly bond conduit . Its mainly a rigid pipe coated with a plastic to prevent corrosion. You do have to use a over sized bender. At work I mainly install 1/2 poly bond and use a 3/4 rigid bender.

[CidzIxxsaarr]

@jeffer2m

 DB2

[geetarust]

dont bend pipe like this,get an electrical job and find out why.

[jeffer2m]

i am using the correct 1.5 inch bender, i just can't bend the fucker!

[j256069]

for 1 inch use 1 inch not 1.5 make sure its for rigid and not emt

[ciscoalcala]

if you have an iPhone, you can download a pipe bending app - iBend Pipe- that calculates 3 bend saddles including a much easier to pull through 15-30-15 using the push through method.

[jfalbo]

very cool thanks

[gyneman]

Most three bend saddles are bent using 22.5º for the two outside bends, and 45º for the center bend.

The steps to making a three bend saddle are:

1. Measure the height of the object to be saddled.

2. Measure the distance from the end of the conduit to be bent to the center of the object to saddle.

3. Place mark on conduit at distance to center of object.

4. Add 3/16" to the distance for each inch of saddle required. This distance becomes the new center of the 45º bend.

[gyneman]

5. Place marks on the conduit 2 1/2 times the height of the object to saddle each way from the center of the 45º bend. These marks are where the bender will be placed to make the two 22 1/2º bends.

6. Place the conduit in the bender with the center mark on the 45º center mark on the bender. Make your bend.

7. Both 22 1/2 bends will be made at the arrow.

[geetarust]

ive been bending pipe since 86.i can make these bends perfectly with my leg and no bender.if i only had a camera.

[geetarust]

if you use the star,notch,arrow you dont have to flip the pipe.

[Drillogik]

didnt add shrinkage of the pipe, 45 degree bends for saddles are more accurate

[geetarust]

yea try pulling wire through em.you only get 360 degrees between boxes ,it adds up fast.

[Drillogik]

sure, just depends on how much conduit your running...etc etc....

[gyneman]

I would rather pull through a 45 degree saddle versus a 30-60-30 saddle. A 30-60-30=120 degrees. A 45 degree saddle= 90 degrees!

Bend 1= 45 degrees

Bend 2= 22 1/2 degrees

Bend three= 22 1/2 degrees

Besides, who bends a 60 degree saddle in the first place? Unless you need to saddle a high obstacle, you use a 45 degree saddle. It just looks better.

[j256069]

its called a pull box use it

[latino1302]

I liked the sound ♫♫track!!♫

9ICE CLIP..

[007380]

Interesting video, but you can make a three point saddle without moving the bender back and forth. You just use all three marks on the bender and keep the bender in the same direction.

[blackhat321]

JF albo. Nice short video. I am an IBEW foreman and have sucessfully bent all sizes on all bender types for many years now and I think your video was just fine. I would like to ask if you ever get the time to make a video similiar to this concerning shrink and gain . It would be usefull to refer some people to your videos. Thanks

[jfalbo]

As an IBEW foreman, what do you think about this? Recently I have been thinking about less conduit bending and more wiring, troubleshooting, and PLC's. Thanks for the feedback and I will think about your last suggestion.

[toadabc]

I am sure you are very good at your trade, but you leave out too much information. For example, you say line the mark up to the teardrop. I have 9 benders of different sizes and makes, and none have a teardrop. You should explane that some have letters, some markes, etc. Also, you say line up the pipe with the handle. That doesn't mean much to a beginer. The point it to have the plane of the pipe in line with the plane of the handle, regardless of how your bender is tilted.

[jfalbo]

I appreciate your input. My goal was to make a quick video with basic descriptions so someone who knew nothing about conduit bending would get the general idea. This video was not intended to cover an entire bending class.

[santaclaws13]

nice i learned a little but why do you stat on tear drop instead of start line

[DAGSTERZ26]

I bet that kid couldnt bend 3/4 Rigid on a 1" EMT bender. LoL sometimes you have to...

[doublearon86]

lol thats what i does! haha no point and gettin another bender...

[DirtyMoney23]

show 3/4 emts or 1 " make it little more challenging, 1/2 " are easy to bend.

[jfalbo]

Well the school budget only let's us work with 1/2" I know...

Why don't you make a video showing 3/4 and 1" bends?