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  • dodge haters why cant ford go back to making these kind of commercials 

  • Im so sick of fanboys. like honestly all of you need to grow up. they are both sick trucks.

  • @chickeroo223 if youve ever put a dodge ram through hell and a ford through hell, the Ford will come out on top. the parts on Dodge arn't as good. wonder why there are a lot of Ford or Chevy people. and not so many dodge people out there

  • @Hawkins1117 Thats so bias though, how many rams have you owned? i have a 2011 hemi v8 1500, my bro has an f150 harley, and i just find the ram a little more confortable, the gas feels good, brakes arent touchy, it drives beyond smooth, not to mention it handles well on snow. Its litterally all opinion though, i think most pickups will be better than others in categories.

  • @chickeroo223 im saying over a period of time the dodge will generally wear out faster than a Ford or Chevy. and yes dodges are known to have better interiors but trucks are made for working with not luxury. Watch the top gear episode where they drive a ford, chevy, and dodge through the mountains. the dodges engine gives out in the begininning of the race

  • ha hey i dont mean to sound like a faggot, but shit come on i fuckin hate it when people talk shit about my truck, and im sure ya'll dont like it either. in my opinion, older dodges kicked ass, but i still like ford more. but hey fuckin get along.my point of view ford=dodge>chevy=GMC. still i like ford the most.

  • @gardmans1 Um.. No they didn't....

  • @XxTournaquetxX Yep that comment he said was a crock of shit.

  • @gardmans1 Bullshit cumbreath.............

  • ecoboost vs. hemi. what will happens next?

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  • try them working!!!!! not racing !!! duuuuh!!

  • here hemi hemi...

  • do ya think "THEY" know gas is up to $3.70 a gallon

  • guys no how has the ecotect v6 2 words "gass station" ram is a TRUE truck !

  • One of the many reasons i own my ford over any dodge is because i dont feel like replacing my tranny every 30k miles or motor every 50k. 94 XLT 5.0l 201k miles original motor and tranny and runs like new

  • @breadman851 ive got a 97 dodge 1500 w/ the 360 and its on the original transmission, and we tow 8k with it regularly. its on the original engine as well. ive driven fords they have nothing like the power my dodge has nor the handling. i drive a dodge because its the best truck on the road and i dont feel like having no power and re threading my sparkplugs every other day.

  • @breadman851 1998 dodge ram 5.2 v8 and 344k on it now still runs strong

  • @breadman851 1998 dodge ram 5.2 v8 and 344k on it now still runs strong just sayin there all good trucks except foreign they suck. 94 ford best looking style lost it for ford in 97 but new ones are pretty good, plus this could not happen at all talkin about he video

  • One of the many reasons i own my ford over any dodge is because i dont feel like replacing my tranny every 30k miles or motor every 50k. 94 XLT 5.0l 201k miles original motor and tranny and runs like new

  • @SecularTechnology

    FORD - Found On Road Dead

    FORD - Fix Or Repair Daily

    FORD- failed on race day

    FORD- fast only rolling downhill

  • @Hemi4life1 Fucker only rolls downhill.

  • @SecularTechnology haha lol ok let's compare apple to apples let's see what happens when dodge releases their new 6.4l in the 1500. 475HP and 465 lb-ft of torque well see who's laughing! Plus this was in 2004 ya fucking idiot am I comparing that dinky 5.4 (which ford trashed) to dodges 6.4? Fuck no so why are you comparing a 2004 to a 2011 get a fucking life!

  • @PowerstrokeForever lmao you are seriously mentally retarded, go talk to an expert and stop watching biased ford commercials

  • @MrRyanromaker

    Dumb shit.

  • @PowerstrokeForever You sound like a Communist there PowerjokeForever, freedom of choice to drive a diesel to haul NOTHING is what makes this country great, not liberal fuckwads like yourself who think you and only you should be able to waste diesel fuel.

  • @PowerstrokeForever lmao no one gives a shit about towing its 2011 brotha u don't tow shit unless your down in the freakin hick town of alabama, Its all about the power now, go back to the 60's motha fucka

  • @PowerstrokeForever are you on drugs? you need to look at the stats better, Face-to-Face The Dodge Ram excels over the F-150 in raw power and straightaway speeds, but struggles to match Ford in overall towing capacity, according to motor trend.com. The F-150 lacks the raw horsepower output of the Dodge Ram, Silverado and Toyota Tundra.

    this is all from motor trend and UN BIASED web article

  • @MrRyanromaker Trucks are made to haul, not race....I own a 2008 Ford F-150 XLT for Working and camping and a 2011 Mustang 5.0 for the fun stuff.........But to get back to the truck, my F-150 will do anthing if not more than your Ram, Silverado, or Tundra will do...WTF?

  • @66MrDonnie bahahaha wow u must be one hick ass redneck if u think trucks are only good for haulin. welcome to the real world.

  • @MrRyanromaker I'd rather be a "hick ass redneck" than a punk ass wigger like you......

  • @66MrDonnie hahaha whatever, go play with ur v6 ford and bang ur sister while i pick up chicks in my 6.1L V8 2010 HEMI with Mopar intake and Aftermarket exhaust.

    ps, don't believe commercials go race a real hemi with ur little v6 ford in real life. then come back here. i race mine all the time. I think I would know. I ACTUALLY go to drag races and TOWING races the new silverado and the dodge hemi are the best at both, ford falls behind everything including the imports.

  • @MrRyanromaker LOL.That shows how stupid you are..I dont own a V6, my 2008 F-150 is a Triton 5.4 V8 and my 2011 GT Mustang is the Hemi killing 5.0.....Proven fact, my GT 5.0 would destroy your 6.1 Hemorrhoid....LMAO...Look at who Dodge is partnered with now, FIAT= Feeble Italian Attempt@ Transportation...*News Flash*.........Dodge Sucks! lol

  • @66MrDonnie LOL. first of all, 5.4L triton v8 has 300 bhp(thats break horsepower in case u didn't know.)

    5.7L HEMI - 505 Bhp. dipshit.

    second- my hemi is a truck ur 5.0 is a car. of course it would outrace it, it weighs 3000 pound less than my truck dumbass.

  • @MrRyanromaker Blah, Blah, Blah...Horsepower dosent equal shit and you know it. at 411hp the Mustang has the least amount of hp of the big three(Camaro, Challenger) and it destroys the other two. As far as trucks go Ford has four new engines this year for them. 3.7V6@300hp/ 5.0V8@360hp/6.2V8@411hp and the 3.4ecoboostV6@400hp...All of which are more than a match for your Fix It Again Tony Dodge....lol..By the way isnt it time for another government bailout.You know the one FORD didnt take? lol

  • @66MrDonnie

    blah blah blah horsepower is EVERYTHING. and can you not read? I have REAL LIFE experience at towing and drag races. DRIVING AND WATCHING. so face the facts, ford comes in last, and if one redneck wants to believe his ford is better than everything, either face the facts, or go bang ur sister like u should be doing

  • @MrRyanromaker Give me a 6.2L V8 F150 and I'll pull your cheap ass dodge all the way across town

  • @PowerstrokeDiesel22 keep wishin bub

  • @PowerstrokeForever lmao ford does not last longer at all bro i've had both, and dodge beats for in every catagory, including how long it stayed purrin I bet you've never even driven a dodge biotch

  • yep the Ford pulling the lighter load. ;)

  • hell my 5.2 dodge ram could beat that and just think im up grading to a 5.7 hemi today

  • @wfortier502 I'm upgrading my penis

  • @ZaoHuZhua sorry buddy your right I was one year off!

  • Ford has 260 hp and 350 pounds of torque

    Dodge has 345 hp and 375 pounds of torque you tell me who win!

  • @Hemi4life1 More like 300hp and 365lbs ft from a 5.4L V8 vs. a 5.7L V8 at 345hp and 375lbs ft. Get you facts right and stop trying to push on the Heritage model when the next gen truck was available.

  • @Hemi4life1

    Look at the updatedone. LMAO.

    It has over 411 horses and 434 Lbs.-Ft

  • No way in hell a ford would be a dodge in any competition. Except maybe dying on the side of the road... then ford wins hands down.

    F= Found

    O= On

    R=Road

    D=Dead

  • @MrRyanromaker

    D = Dead

    O - On

    D = Deliver

    G = Garbage

    E= Emitter

    Dumb shit. The the new 6.2 would own that piece of shit Slodge 5.7

  • @SecularTechnology lmao I think my buddy hemi4life proved you wrong so i'm not gonna say anything. retard.

  • hahaha lmao then u woke up all wet. matter o fact i have an 01 f150 4.2 v6 and i beat a friend who has a silver 04 05 dodge ram 5.7liter hemi and i beat him he got me on the start but i got him on top end sad.. stock 6

  • FORD--LOL 2011 Ram 1500 would smoke that thing..

    F-Fantasizing

    O-Over

    R-Red

    D-Dodges

  • FORD--

    F-Fantasizing

    O-Over

    R-Red

    D-Dodges

    

  • One word...Staged.

  • Whoops, there's a fuel station! Better send the mighty ford in there to support the Arabs!

    From what I've seen even the new 6.2 can't keep up to the Hemi. Nice try though.

  • @ExMxer3

    what have you seen?

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  • @NewToyotaTrucks

    hey "toyota truck guy" there sure have been a tone of new toyota trucks coming out latley, oh wait the toyota tundra that is out now is exactly the same truck as the 2006 model which is when they did their last overhaul on a truck, they havnt changed hardly anything in 4 years. speaking of toyota there sure is a lot of new cars coming out latley and then going right back to the dealer cause of the 5.3 million vehicles they have recalled for qaulity issues.

  • FUCK Dodge and Chevy Ford kills them all!!! GO FORD!!!!

  • u have to also think the charger weighs more than that mustang haha

  • This is bull. Do this comparison in real life and the Ram will kick the crap out of ford

  • @10challengerMopar UMMMMM NO

  • That a Hemi? Yeah! Hemi's are not truly Hemi's. Modified Hemi actually for those who don't already know. My wife's Nissan is more HEMI than the POS dodge in this commercial.

  • i towed with a ford and it broke then i got a dodge it tows everything.

  • everybody is saying no way this is true cause the triton has 300hp and the hemi has like 345hp, aint bout hp with trucks, its about torque!

  • i'll be honest a f150 would probably win in a drag race but if you hooked a trailer up to it dodge is deffinetly not going to loose

  • @36crazyfists63 nope that ram would win

  • @tsblair95 thats what i hope but f150s are pretty fast but cant tow shit at all

  • @36crazyfists63 Whoa, its the other way around. Ram 1500 can tow 8400. An F150 with a 5.4 can tow just under 11k. Pretty sad too. Has nothing to do with engine. If dDodge was set up for work, they MIGHT be able o the F150 to shame, but they cant. The HEMI has power, but DOdge cant find a good use for it except for HEMI badge.

  • how much throttle was the guy in the hemi giving it 1/4?

  • Ford sucks shit. No fucking way that piss ant ford is going to out preform a ram. Especially with a Hemi. Fuck, even the cars on each others trailers the charger would def win

  • I love Ford but that's pathetic...a triton vs. a hemi? 310 hp vs. 345?? No way

  • @rangerbass519 its all about tq. when pulling buddy, ford's 5.4 has the best low end tq.

  • @rangerbass519 And youre an idiot. Fords low-end torque catches faster than Dodges...which gives it teh abilitiy to pull ahead while towinga vehicle. Remember, torque spins the wheels

  • @1977F150408 remember your mom? remember how she told you all that bullshit about ford??

  • @tsblair95 Remember your dad? When his dick shoved so far up your ass you just said yes yes, i agree!

  • @1977F150408 remember that time when u walked in yo moms room and saw me and her togather??

  • that video is strait bullshit everone knows that ford and dodge both suck be a real workin man and buy a chevy

  • @MrShitkicker69 a chevy can't even pull a motorcycle let alone a car, them 5.3's have no tq. at all, hell even the vortec maxx gets outpulled by the 5.4 triton and hemi.

  • @NissanTy your so full of shit my chevy 3500 will pull your fucking back axel of your peace of shit nissan..fuck you

  • @MrShitkicker69 thats cool man

  • @NissanTy ya thats what i was thinking glad u see it my way. have a great day

  • @MrShitkicker69 don't see it your dumbass way i just don't give a fuck what your dumbass says thats all :)

  • @NissanTy then why the fuck would u write your comment if u dont give a FUCK what my dumbass says :(

  • What you don't realize is that this guy's "Nissan" isn't a Titan... It's a dumbass altima. Forget about pulling out the axle, you're liable to snap his cervical vertebrae.

    The 1500 silverados aren't anything that impressive, but goddamn I do respect the 3500 Silverado. Probably Chevys best product.

  • @MarineHawk117 ya i know 3500s r the shit .. drive it with pride.. fuck nissan

  • the triton is the best motor out there on the low end itll pull anything from a dead stop i love mine but ill admit on the top end that motor sucks and the hemi will smoke it anyday of the week if you dont beleve me come hook a hemi up to a grain wagon out here and youll see the difference in draging 12 tons of dead weight

  • That's my Charger on the trailer and I watched them shoot this commercial (wearing a DODGE baseball cap the whole time!) It's a COMMERCIAL, not a scientific test, so you have to take it with a grain of salt. The Ford people were very careful with my car, which I appreciated. Which is the better truck? Drive both and decide for yourself.

  • Uh don't know where there coming up with this shit,because i saw the actual test with all 3 Ford,Chevy and Dodge, and all 3 towing a trailer that weighed 7,000 some pounds,and tested from0-60 and 30-60 passing,and guess what,Ford says they can tow the most,then why did they do the worst in that test on both area's?

  • f150 looks like a fragile toy. The name "RAM" sounds fast, tough and hardworking itself. Don't stress over factual info. lol

  • not only would the dodge ram win...but that charger on the trailer would wax that mustang too :)

  • I don't have a problem with ford, but everyone I have road in, it was extremley slow

  • Ford is fucking hella gay

  • My old F-150 was just like the one in the commercial except for it was black. I loved that thing but let me tell you even with a bunch of bolt ons its was pretty darn slow. I loved it, but it was slooooow.

  • Ya shure dodge tow 9000lbs ford 11000 lbs hmm which one wins?

  • This is retarded, even with the 5.4L in the ford, the dodge would still rape the ford.

  • @rodeoclown0037  really? is that what the video shows?

  • of course the f150 will smoke the dodge because ford is better than dodge

  • An independant group actually did this test after Ford ran the commercial. They put the same weight on the trailers, trading drivers, etc. They did 100 runs down the strip. They Dodge won all 100 passes.

  • @dulcimerbuilder *cough* horse shit *cough* show me the video

  • lol is that a hemi.. if it was the race would have been different.. I love all American trucks.. Fuck the Tundra.. the Chevy 6.2 is a nasty SOB and the 2009 Hemi ram slant back front grill tickles me pink lol.. Love the quality Ford has always put in there trucks... now let them release an engine that can compete with the chevy and dodge... and we have one hell of a race.

  • Damn, that's funny! I'd love to see the test done for real LOL!

  • Looks, quality, and performance ALL together with the ram. Ive spent my entire life racing. There is a difference in preference and best. I personally out ran a late 2000 model F-150 extended cab in a hemi quad cab pulling a 70 Nova and that was by truck and trailer lengths. The F-150 is best seller for 33 years is because idiots have to keep a truck with a warranty.

  • Im a Chevy guy but there isnt a truck on the road as nice as a Dodge. Looks, quality, and performance ALL together with the ram. Ive spent my entire life racing. There is a difference in preference and best. I personally out ran a late 2000 model F-150 extended cab in a 08 hemi quad cab pulling a 70 Nova and that was by truck and trailer lengths. The F-150 is best seller for 33 years is because idiots have to keep a truck with a warranty.

  • wtf dodge would of pass him i think dodge better

  • wow it amazes me how much immature little fucks like to talk shit. I test drove the 2010 ram and the f-150. Both are really nice trucks, and the ram did have more power. But still the ford is a better truck and built more solid. Who gives a fuck which one is faster? You want something fast? buy a fucking car. Functionality. Durability. FORD

  • dodge is still better ....f1shittys are just boxes on wheels

  • Well fuck, If it's just a box on wheels, I want one. Best selling truck 33 years in a row, and running. Dodge can't say that...

  • Isnt Dodge owned by Fiat now. Color me sceptical but i'll stick with Ford.

  • LOL Same here.

  • no ford= fuckin old rebuilt dodge. but id rather have a dodge 2500 or 3500 for towing shit

  • I own a 2006 dodge ram and I know its faster then any ford. I bet my 06 could beat the new 2010 ford too!

  • @X2Kaotic4u your dumb

  • @Stackedskate what a compelling argument... thank you for you very intelligent input.

  • @X2Kaotic4u i agree, no way a ford could beat a dodge

  • @MrZentic777 i disagree dodges aint that good

  • @X2Kaotic4u it all changes when a trailer is put on. for some reason my truck can blow the doors off my buddies truck with a trailer on but with no loan they usually beat me

  • @X2Kaotic4u

    Bull shit the new 6.2 Would kill your Ram.

  • For our retarded daughter. DODGE RULES

  • Fast

    On

    Race

    Day

    Fuckin

    Other

    Rides

    Daily

    Go Ford

  • ford = found on road dead ford was nice enough to circle there own mistake for you

  • @ROSASBROS First off, 80 Percent of Dodges from the 80's are still on the road today. The rest are lucky to have made it home. Second off all you fucking haters. you just saw the BEST SELLING TRUCK FOR 33 YEARS And RUNNING.

  • @Ford4Lyfe7 at least they made it home ford gets towed to the shop you havent even been alive that long retard what are you 12 get some better facts than we will chat bitch

  • @ROSASBROS Ford F150 has been the best selling truck for 33 years and running. And second off it doesn't take a college grad to fucking know what an oval looks like. Pull your head out before you talk shit.

  • ya i know you fucking retard put your piece of shit under powered ford against my dodge then we will talk any truck is better than the f-150 and by the way my head was in your moms ass if you know what i mean sorry

  • yeah right the dodge would go way faster and so would the charger

  • all the way

  • Drips, Oil, Drops, Greese, Everywhere

  • For

    Only

    Retard 

    Drivers

    GO DODGE

  • @prayb4udie I agree thats why i have a Dodge

  • yea man i love dodge there the best and am glad that you are not a retard lol

  • @prayb4udie Dodge is awesome

  • @Yelnuts71 oh yea there are!!!!!!!!!

  • dodge suck

  • dead

    on

    driveway

    garbage

    engine

    d

    g

    e

  • F*ck

    on

    race

    drive

  • ya they do

  • i beat hemis all the time in my 07 F 150. Ford rules

  • ya ford is the best dodge are weak and crappy what do u expect its a dodge

  • Yeah that's why they call it First On Race Day my freakin Ass!

    Freakin Owner Really Dumb

    Fix Or Repair Daily

    Found On Road Dead

    Found On Rubbish Dump

  • Now take those cars off the trailer and race :P

  • yea detroit the worst city in the u.s.a

  • this is crap, it wasn´t a F 150 Lightning

  • Well according to kbb specs the 09 Ford F250 SuperCrew XLT 8 ft bed weighs in at 9600 lbs the payload they show is 2940 while the single cab is 9000 @ 2890 payload. Silverado LT Regular is 9200 @ 3644 and the SuperCrew LT weighs in at the same of 9200 but decreased payload to 3059. WTF? Thats odd lol

  • The 9000 lbs is GVWR by the way.

  • I think I have made my point and by your actions Restaurant (Deletion of your posts and negative votes on anyone with opposing views)

    I believe I have won the argument.

    You have clearly forfeited and also demonstrated an dictatorial leadership. In other words you impose your will and opinions in a domineering manner and apparently when you dont get your way you throw a tantrum.

    If I knew you were going to be this immature I would not have wasted my time with you.

  • You didn't win shit. Only reason why I deleted my post was because I didn't want to deal with anymore of your dumbass. Oh hey look, they're back just to show others what a complete moron you really are compared to my proof and comments about the two.

  • You havn't showed any proof of anything.

    I have given you real facts and thats why you are getting upset. You can't compete with the truth, I challenge you or anyone else to try.

    The only moron you are making anyone out to be is yourself. That is the conclusion anyone with unbiased intelligence will come up with.

    Again, let me remind you that every argument you have attempted I have proven otherwise.

  • I'm not getting upset at all, I don't know where or how you think I'm getting upset. Showing proof and knowing the facts are two completely different things. As I "showed" you as proof the F150 can out tow any of the trucks. Maybe not the fastest to the finish line, but it can still out tow them. You can't just sit there and deny that Dodge has had problems. Every vehicle has problems. Dodge transmission problems have been an issue for a long time.

  • the Triton is a shit engine and can't tow like a HEMI this commercial is fucked

  • loom wat the ford is towing, a tiny ass mustang, the dodge is towing a heavy better faster nicer charger, and the dodge has more horses and looks better, this year it tows a lot more too.

  • mowtheyeard - I have an F250 that I would put up against your 1500 any day of the week.  And before you jump down my throat - I also own a 1500 Ram that I love, but when I have to pull something heavy - I walk past the Dodge and get in the "big truck". 2500 vs 250 - Cummings vs Power Stroke. Flat ground w/ same load is a close call - hit the hills and the Ford walks away easily.

  • MsAngel, I have no doubt that any F250 with a V10 or Powerstroke would stomp a 1500.

    But, Fords engines suck! 5.4 has a bad rep, and the powerstroke has lawsuits and is the worst diesel on the market right now.

    Fords been trying to get away from the powerstroke for years whether its cummins, CAT, or something new they design.

    And a pull, 250 vs 2500 the 2500 would win. I mean look around youtube 98% of the videos the cummins wins.

  • the 4.6/5.4 is one of the best engines ever made dude. Plus ive seen powerstrokes beat cummins and dmax's before. It all in the tuning and setup.

  • 5.4l is NOT a very good engine I have tons of sources, too many to list.

    I have seen on rare occasion a powerstroke beat a cummins but the point I was making is that the much greater majority of the videos on youtube are of cummins beating the powerjoke.

    stock on stock, cummins wins, modified the cummins is practically undefeatable.

  • The 3v 5.4 makes 80% tq before 2000 RPM..best in class. I love that motor, and the sound it makes is great!

  • The 5.7l HEMI makes320tq at 1200, 350Tq at 2000 and 410tq at 4000

    The 5.4l 3v(gas) however makes 365tq @ 3500

    Compared to the dodge again, the 5.7l V8 at 3500rpm has 400tq

    The Hemi has more power and better fuel efficiency.

  • If Dodge trucks are soo great, when was the last time they were "Truck of the year?" A fully loaded one cost over $50 grand while you can get a Ford SuperCrew 4x4 5.4 for 5k less, put 5k in mods and your out doing the Dodge in performance and towing capabilties

    Room For Improvement: Limited variations could hurt; non-Hemi engines are dogs, limited payload and towing will hurt overall sales; maybe the wrong time for a great personal-use pickup; steering still needs more weight and tuning.

  • If you knew anything about TOTY awards I dont think you would be basing your whole argument around it.

    It's not like they all fight over who wins TOTY every year. It is only New redesigns or new entries.

    Motor Trend gives morons a reason to buy the truck they want and then say "well it was TOTY" Big deal, that doesn't mean anything.

    In 2006 the Honda Ridgeline won by a Unanimous vote, why dont you get a ridgeline?

    It beat a Ram 1500, Lincoln F-150, and a Ram Megacab.

  • Your dumber than a fucking Chevy owner. If they were not fighting over TOTY then they would make such a thing. You gonna tell me that JD power and Associates is bullshit too?  I wouldn't be surprised if you did. Does Honda Ridgeline come with a v-8? No, give me a real truck with v-8 fuck the v-6

  • Nobody fights over TOTY since they are not in it every year was the point Mr. Dumb Ford owner.

    Then you disagree that the Ridgeline won so you are actually strengthening my argument.

    Until SAE takes over the only trucks who can actually brag is the Dodge and Chevy trucks.

    If they are not rated by SAE they are a complete lie. Without standards they can put whatever number they want on their truck.

    Look up "SAE J-2807"

  • Bullshit they don't do it every year. Chevy has had tons. An who gives a fuck about the Ridgeline its a piece of shit truck wanting to hang with the v-8. You really think SAE is gonna take over? LOLOL!!!! Yep, everything else is a lie. Lets only believe what the selective hearing that Dodge and Chevy owners only want to hear.

  • You are apparently another person that thinks payload and towing are legit.

    The 09 Ram 1500's figures ARE legit.

    SAE ratings are 10,400

    It's like your buddies at Motor Trend said: "Maximum Payload Numbers Are a Lie"

    If they figured the payload on the Honda Ridgeline like Ford does with the F150 then the Ridgeline (1510Ibs) has more payload than a megacab (1500Ibs)

    The steering wheel is perfect as on all Dodge trucks. Just because they dont steer themselves you complain?

  • No I don't think that at all. Stop assuming. You look like a fucking idiot. The towing and payload specs are everywhere on websites.

    "Finally, there's the matter of the Max Towing crown, which Ford claims to keep for 2009 thanks to the '09 F-150's class-leading tow capacity of 11,300 lbs and a hauling capacity of 3,030. No other full-size pickup from Chevy, GMC, Dodge or Toyota even exceeds 11,000 lbs. for 2009."

    According to how much your Dodge tows. That statement would be correct

  • Next for your final argument I customized both trucks as closely as possible.

    Ford ended up at: $47,730

    Dodge ended up: $46,480

    Box 4x4 crew cabs with the same options.

    Then normally Dodge offers incentives that take the price down well below the F150. Neither companies are offering incentives right now.

    So your TOTY argument is smashed aswell as your price point, payload/towing points and steering.

    Anything else you would like to rant about?

  • I don't know how the fuck your getting your information but if you compare a Laramie Hemi 5.7 4x4 to a 5.4L Lariat 4x4 both with 5 1/2 foot beds

    MSRP Dodge -$45,185

    Invoice Dodge - $40,345

    MSRP Ford $39,435

    Invoice Ford $35,553

    Ford has a better Powertrain warranty by 2 years and 24,000 miles and I really feel sorry for Dodge because they have more transmission problems then any other truck. You get a 6 speed vs 5 speed and better gas mileage in the Ford.

  • Lastly lets compare Apples to Apples.

    A high end dodge Laramie vs a mid range lariat? You call that even?

    More accurate is a Laramie vs. a Platinum.

    Laramie with 4x4, Crew cab, 5.7' box, 5.7 Hemi, 3.92 gears, and a 5 speed is:

    $45,560

    A Platinum with 4x4, Super Crew, 5.5' box, 5.4 Triton, 373 gears, and 6 speed is:

    $45,825

    Dodge has lifetime powertrain warranty...

    Dodge has a new transmission to aleviate problems.