Yacht that was filming was mostly in the wrong- port to portrd. I think the other yacht was trying to get onto that side. However, I can tell you that this rule is not often followed when needs be and it is the responsibility of both vessels to avoid collision. None seemed to have made it clear which way it was going so it kind of was the fault of both.
@evolution1088 Yep, the same stupid Yanks that probably had grandfathers that liberated your country. Although you frogs did not mind having Hitler march right into your country.
Everything is clear about this encounter: The big vessel must give way to the small vessel. COLREG 15. So the skipper of the big vessel is primarily guilty. The skipper of the small vessel violated the obligation to contribute to the prevention of a collision. COLREG 17a2 and 17b as no action whatsoever could be observed by the small vessel. The skipper of the big vessel was certainly not qualified as a skipper and the skipper of the small vessel was not aware of the other terms of COLREG 17.
@dl8rds thanks for posting an explanation, I was flaberghasted at this vid, how not even a passenger yelled out a warning. does anyone know where this happened? Yes I'd like to put a racial slur on this just for LOL purposes only!
Ya think the guy with the camera would have told someone or tried to alter course....but noooo " if I dont die, this will be a great vid for youtube"...morons
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GUESS NO ONE FILMING WANTED TO YELL OUT A WARNING, WOULD HAVE RUINED THEIR VIDEO OPPORTUNITY.... I WOULD SAY IT WAS MORE THEIR FAULT THAN ANY.... ALSO, WAS THERE NO ONE ON THE BRIDGE OF EITHER BOAT, OR WERE THEY PLAYING CHICKEN....??? IF SO, THEY BOTH GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED.....
—INTERNATIONAL— Steering and Sailing Rules RULE 18 Responsibilities Between Vessels Except where Rules 9, 10 and 13 otherwise require: (a) A power-driven vessel underway shall keep out of the way of: (i) a vessel not under command; >>(ii) a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver; << (iii) a vessel engaged in fishing; (iv) a sailing vessel. ii - a large ship (the one shooting the video) cannot stop or turn quickly. The tour boat was required to stay the hell out of the way.
@MrHobiecat You clearly have no idea what constitutes a large vessel. I actually doubt that you have ever stood watch on the bridge of a ship. Gpd help all of us professional mariners if you do.
My notes also clearly state that whatever the situation, if you are in a collision, you are in deep sh*t. As you pointed out earlier, the stand on vessel is required to manoeuvre if the action of the manoeuvering vessel would not be enough to avoid a collision. Rules of the road are merely "guide lines", but do not give any "recepies" ...
@Dingwell88 Well... I've looked back at my notes, and they "clearly" state that if my vessel was making way to 000 (T), a vessel would be head on from 157,5 (T) to 202,5 (T). Obviously, this is my teachers interpretation, but I wish to point out the fact that Colreg was written "vaguely" so a maritime expert -or lawyer- hired by a country could bite a part of our ass in any collision situation! I'm having a hard time quantifying "nearly reciprocal".
@Rimouski418 It is not a matter of interpretation. If you check the regs they clearly state the arc of visibility of a sidelight. If you are not within an arc that would have BOTH visible at night it is not head on. The thing about the regs is that they are not really vague. They are instead very explicit.
And as you stated earlier they also ensure that there is a caveat and that is that if you find yourself so close to a collision that the actions of the giveway vessel are not sufficient to avoid the collision that you MUST take action yourself. That is why you very very rarely hear of a 100% accident on the water. Most are 75/25 or 80/20. If you haven't taken the time to read Cocroft and his explanations of the regs I suggest it. It has fantastic examples of each and great pics.
@Dingwell88. Yes, I do understand your point, but I was teached that reciprocal course was from complete opposite to 22.5 degrees off each side of the bow... Now that is a tricky one to call on this video... Also note that I wrote IF interpreted as a Head on...
@Rimouski418 Well as my definition shows you were taught incorrectly. Obviously not everyone knows the rules verbatim so I usually point it out so they know. Part of my job is to know them and I actually have to write a monthly test that requires that I quote them.
@Rimouski418 Are you sure that you are not confused with the requirements for an overtaking situation? Because you are deemed to be overtaking a vessel when you are approaching a vessel from greater than 22.5 degrees abaft her beam.
It was the other boat's right of way. My guess is that they are roughly the same size (in shipping terms). If you meet a boat coming across your bow, and you can see their port side, it is your responsibility to avoid the collision. The captain of the other ship is not at fault as he was waiting for the the camera ship to manoeuvre.
@phoenixh87 You are only half right. The ship with the camera is required by the rules to manoeuvre. Where the other guy is at fault is that they also state that you MAY take avoiding action when it becomes apparent that the other vessel is not acting IAW the collision regulations. You SHALL take avoiding action when the actions of the give-way vessel alone are not sufficient to avoid collision. This is why cases of 100% blame to one side is so rare in at sea collisions.
perfect case right here for selective breeding,...we are the only mammals on Earth that does not practice this proven method for keeping the species healthy & vibrant.....Just sad.
The port and starboard rule applies to vessels of EQUAL size.
A large ship ALWAYS has the right of way over a smaller boat. A large ship simply cannot turn or stop on a dime. The bow if the ship making the video is larger than the entire boat that was hit.
Whats more, I cant tell for sure if the larger boat was even moving?
But under Rule 2 of COLREGS both vessels are in the wrong. Neither made any sound signal or even attempted to alter course. Amazing. The greater responsibility lies with the larger vessel though and they are the ones gesticulating and carrying on. I wonder if they had any maritime training at all.
Reminds me of a fatality accident when I was in North Dakota. 2 country roads, 90 degree intersection, flat as a pancake, mid day. You could see miles in any direction. The cars could have easily seen each other (or their dust plumes) for 2-3 minutes. One had right-of way (the one on the right), the other didn't. Both dead.
@zebidee86 If you dont know which side of a boat is port or starboard you have no business being at the helm.
And besides, the bigger ship ALWAYS has the right of way, because you cannot right rules that defy the laws of physics, any more than a colored light at an intersection can stop a vehicle.
The small boat that got crushed was at fault, it could easily have stopped or changed course, but it didnt. The boat being filmed from doesnt even appear to BE MOVING!
@MrHobiecat You have no idea what you are talking about. The larger vessel does not automatically get right of way. Take a read of the international colregs. If you need a good lesson drop me an email and I will gladly explain it all to you.
@Dingwell88 You will explain it to me? HAHAHAHHAA! I was a boarding officer in the US coast guard for FOUR YEARS.
You know why a LARGE SHIP (not larger vessel) ALWAYS has the right of way? Because it is physically impossible for a large ship to stop or to turn quickly. What is the point of writing navigation laws that defy the laws of physics?!
If you see a LARGE SHIP coming, get the HELL OUT OF ITS WAY, AND WATCH OUT FOR ITS WAKE TOO!
@MrHobiecat Ok, where to start, where to start.....
First of all: I have been a naval officer for 9 years. Our equivalent to the USN's SWO. The difference is that we don't really change our jobs as much. My job is to stand watches. Obviously yours is not because you would never pass a rules test with your made up rules.
@MrHobiecat The rules DO NOT apply to vessels of equal size. In fact if you take a quick read you will see that "These rules apply to all vessels upon the high seas and in all waters connected therewith navigable by seagoing vessels."
These vessels aren't even close to being of a size that is restricted in it's ability to manoeuvre or constrained by her draught. If you knew anything about shiphandling you would know that these yachts are EXTREMELY manoeuvrable.
@Dingwell88 How big is the ship that is filming the approaching tour boat? I see at least three decks, and the section in front of the camera is at least twice as big as the approahing tour boat. the cameraman is most likely infront of the bridge, which means the ship is at least 5 to 8 times the size of the approaching tour boat.
Small boats MUST yeild to a large ship, NO MATTER WHAT. And BTW, since when does the navy issue navigational citations?
@MrHobiecat I assume that you have never actually conned a ship before. I also assume that you have never stood a bridge watch because you only seem to make up rules and interpretations in your mind. If you ever happen to stand a watch let me know so that I can make sure I get posted to the opposite coast. I don't need people like you trying to run me down on the water because you don't know what you are supposed to do.
—INTERNATIONAL— Steering and Sailing Rules RULE 18 Responsibilities Between Vessels Except where Rules 9, 10 and 13 otherwise require: (a) A power-driven vessel underway shall keep out of the way of: (i) a vessel not under command; >>(ii) a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver; << (iii) a vessel engaged in fishing; (iv) a sailing vessel....
It is not RAM or NUC or constrained by draught. Therefore it is a crossing situation. It does not relieve the giveway vessel of acting accordingly because he waits until the stand-on vessel is so close that his own actions alone can not avoid collision. What this means is that he should have taken avoiding action at a much closer range. These vessels turn VERY quickly. Therefore their "bubble" for when to turn is much closer, where as a tanker needs a much larger bubble.
@Dingwell88 if the ship was moving its momentum would have carried it forward, pushing the tour boat out of its way. the tour boat hits the bow of the ship, then rolls off to the right. There is no indication the ship is moving, if it was that little boat would not have stopped it
and yes, I see the waves coming off the bow of the tour boat foaming the water, clearly.
@MrHobiecat It does carry it forward. It actually crosses the wake.
It is very easy to see the bow wake FROM THE OTHER SHIP. haha You will never see your bow wake when looking ahead unless you are in some decent sea state. Everything you say makes me realize that what you say about having sailed is complete BS. You might have worked in a coast guard OFFICE somewhere. You clearly have no idea about being a mariner.
The Boat being filmed (Not the boat with the camera) had the right of way. Port = Red. Dont Go. The Boat being filmed would have seen the Boat with the camera's Starboard side. Starboard = Green. Go.
@babyfacebosn This is entirely true. A safer way is for the helmsman on the smaller craft to remove his eyes from the bikinis before the two craft are anywhere close and to change course in order to cross the larger vessel's wake. Others here have said the same thing essentially.
The stand-on (small) boat approaching off the starboard bow of the give-way only has right-of-way until it becomes clear that the give-way isn't budging. It has to be the most misunderstood and negligently taught rule of the sea. The green navigation bow light on the give-way does not grant license to the stand-on to maintain course and speed, presuming in a navigable seaworthy vessel.
@ptmodit according to maritime law the smaller boat had the right of way, I deal with these idiots when I'm in my 14 foolt tin can guess if they turn when I have the right of way
Apparently the Captain on the vessel from which this is being filmed forgot he's supposed to turn to starboard..... and shame on the other Captain for not taking appropriate action when he realized this idiot wasn't going to do anything to prevent a collision. Hope both these morons lost their licenses permanently.
It's a bit hard to accept that the two highest rated comments both think that this is funny. People can die from dumb shit acts like this. I guess societies race too the bottom continues.................
By the way, the bigger boat may have had the obligation to keep clear, but both skippers are at fault for not avoiding the collision.
Prime rule is good seamanship. A mammoth oil tanker cannot be expected to yield for a < 50 m boat. Beside that, private recreation boats have to yield to professional transports, regardless of sails, oars or side. (at least in the Netherlands)
@deathbringerdk Well actually, if we want to get technical, size matters in Rule 9 of CollReg (Narrow Channels), paragraph B:"A vessel less than 20 meters [...] shall not impede the passage of vessel which can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway" . But I do get your point ;-)
@deathbringerdk That's not 100% true.....the size of the vessels is also a consideration. The rules are also the more manourverable vessel must give way to the less manvoureable. Like to see you pull the starboard rule when you're in a sailing boat approaching a bulk carrier ;-)
The rule you refere to is clearly stated that a ship using engine must turn for a boat using sail. Since an engine driven vessel can easier turn that a sailing boat.
size has nothing to do with the rules. A 400 meter long containership must still turn for a small speedboat if it is on the starboard side. I know this as I sail containership :)
Assuming sea room for all and no boat is limited to a specific channel, the burdened vessel would be the one filming because he was heading for the port side of the other boat. However, the other vessel should of took corrective action when he saw that he was in harms way.
You should learn the basics before postins such a stupidity! Nobody said that it shold turn THE LAST SECOND before collision!! The should have steered away quarter a mile before! And this "big ship" is just a yach and to steer away would mean turn the rudder 2 degrees off course or slow the ship for a quarter of a knot for two minutes! There seems to be no other restrictions which would prevent the skip of the bigger boat to do that. It's just his EGO which is restricted in some way..
@Rimouski418 Anyway, if interpreted as Rule 14- Head-On situation, both ships should alter to starboard. Ship filming is wrong in both situations, small ship is wrong if interpreted as Rule 14
@Rimouski418 Well if you knew what a head-on situation was it would help you to realize that you are wrong. A head on situation is when vessels are approaching each other on reciprocal OR nearly reciprocal courses so as to involve risk of collision.
Really hope everyone was ok. :s
119glory 1 month ago
Someone must have taken a arrow to the knee :/
MrEcommon 1 month ago
That'll buff right out
94z07 2 months ago
I like how no one attempted to blow the horns on both boats to warn people
metraF40PH163 2 months ago
Turn the wheel to the right daddy, At least that is what my six year old daughter said.
Queejack 3 months ago
briga de milhonarios ?
atilajusto 3 months ago
who saw the little kid miss getting crushed by the bow by about 2ft? Its the same one that ran away yelling "MAMA MAMA!"
officialofawesumness 4 months ago
Yacht that was filming was mostly in the wrong- port to portrd. I think the other yacht was trying to get onto that side. However, I can tell you that this rule is not often followed when needs be and it is the responsibility of both vessels to avoid collision. None seemed to have made it clear which way it was going so it kind of was the fault of both.
torngr4a 4 months ago
were the captains girls?
suzuki1134 4 months ago
The whole thing could have been so easily avoided, regs or no regs. This is what happens when you *assume* the other guy knows what he's doing.
flylooper 4 months ago
Oouch scary stuff
kizersozey 4 months ago
lol.....
paul0309 5 months ago
if this boat is a sinking somone has been drinking!
MrFolk10 5 months ago
dumb asses the smaller boat had the right away anyway
welderman11590 5 months ago
hahaha stupid yanks for sure....
evolution1088 5 months ago
@evolution1088 Yep, the same stupid Yanks that probably had grandfathers that liberated your country. Although you frogs did not mind having Hitler march right into your country.
ExtremePeppers 5 months ago
Idiots.
taylor1hp 5 months ago
...and we commit these souls to the sea....where hopefully they won't screw up anyone's day, or life
SickTwistedFrq 6 months ago
...... To Many Comments To Place, So Little Space..... Shitty Drivers On Both Sides.
MapleBalls 6 months ago
it looked to me like the smaller boat was steering toward the bigger boat if you look at the wake.
thelaughingman79 6 months ago
Stupid Water....
TheDylanJoyce 6 months ago
they gonna sink thats for sure
sunNbass 6 months ago
who let women to drive???
peerukott15 6 months ago 16
How do crash in the ocean easy .boats big big boats make very little noise the engines are under the water line !!!
cliffordb47 6 months ago
Jesus Christ.
drumtravelfun 6 months ago
im really surprised that the smaller vessel with alot more people on it didnt sink from that impact,cos that crash looked deadly,but,meh.
milocapslock 6 months ago
LOL!!
Adrianair747 6 months ago
That's seamanship......MY GOD, that's seamanship!!!!!!
ffairlane57 6 months ago
@ffairlane57 no....that's Seawomanship
WhitakerSJA 6 months ago
this is an indication of the trained monkeys that operate ships now !
dave2806 7 months ago
See ruulib räiega
thepaaat 7 months ago
derp.
ddawg132 7 months ago
lol
Krassus99 7 months ago
@Krassus99
i know write LOL
Adrianair747 6 months ago
Everything is clear about this encounter: The big vessel must give way to the small vessel. COLREG 15. So the skipper of the big vessel is primarily guilty. The skipper of the small vessel violated the obligation to contribute to the prevention of a collision. COLREG 17a2 and 17b as no action whatsoever could be observed by the small vessel. The skipper of the big vessel was certainly not qualified as a skipper and the skipper of the small vessel was not aware of the other terms of COLREG 17.
dl8rds 7 months ago
@dl8rds thanks for posting an explanation, I was flaberghasted at this vid, how not even a passenger yelled out a warning. does anyone know where this happened? Yes I'd like to put a racial slur on this just for LOL purposes only!
dariod2007 7 months ago
Ya think the guy with the camera would have told someone or tried to alter course....but noooo " if I dont die, this will be a great vid for youtube"...morons
beastlyburry 7 months ago
Flags are Russian. Autopilots on. Vodka flowing.
sgregg5257 7 months ago 3
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dituono 7 months ago
In the middle of the ocean and nobody saw or had any forethought of anything that was about to happen. lol lol lol lol
skipwadoo 7 months ago
hahahahahahahahahahahha
chaotica2410 7 months ago 2
So is this the big boat's fault because he was facing the starboard side of the small boat? or is the small boat at fault because it is smaller?
rainerfilm 7 months ago
holy macaroni, did this have to happen?!!
1greatdude 8 months ago
theres a big ass ocean out there and they still manage to crash...damn.
dnvnflcnr 8 months ago 59
@dnvnflcnr Haha, I was just about to say the exact same thing.
TheRealmsOfGold 6 months ago
@dnvnflcnr tho Boats & ships are rear steering & are slow at turning.
GayBoyRunning 5 months ago
GUESS NO ONE FILMING WANTED TO YELL OUT A WARNING, WOULD HAVE RUINED THEIR VIDEO OPPORTUNITY.... I WOULD SAY IT WAS MORE THEIR FAULT THAN ANY.... ALSO, WAS THERE NO ONE ON THE BRIDGE OF EITHER BOAT, OR WERE THEY PLAYING CHICKEN....??? IF SO, THEY BOTH GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED.....
TheRGK123 8 months ago
fucking huge ocean and they collide?
MarcoTUV 8 months ago
GILLIGAN!!!!!!!!!
TheBoyAintRite 8 months ago
What would Lord Nelson say if he saw this...
Omega52 8 months ago
@Omega52 He'd say "twats".
beechjc 8 months ago 2
nice crash test;)))
liliputku 8 months ago
Okay, at 0:03 someone clearly says "Somebody shit".
Honestly, how is shitting right at that moment going to help your situation?
wickedpissa25 8 months ago
@wickedpissa25 someone said: "Trzymaj sie!!" what is Polish and means "Hold on" and later he say "Fucking shit"
asiunia2450000 8 months ago
@asiunia2450000 Thank you for the clarification. To my dumb american ears that only know english it sounded like "somebody shit".
LOL
wickedpissa25 8 months ago
MrHobiecat 8 months ago
@MrHobiecat You clearly have no idea what constitutes a large vessel. I actually doubt that you have ever stood watch on the bridge of a ship. Gpd help all of us professional mariners if you do.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
My notes also clearly state that whatever the situation, if you are in a collision, you are in deep sh*t. As you pointed out earlier, the stand on vessel is required to manoeuvre if the action of the manoeuvering vessel would not be enough to avoid a collision. Rules of the road are merely "guide lines", but do not give any "recepies" ...
Rimouski418 8 months ago
@Dingwell88 Well... I've looked back at my notes, and they "clearly" state that if my vessel was making way to 000 (T), a vessel would be head on from 157,5 (T) to 202,5 (T). Obviously, this is my teachers interpretation, but I wish to point out the fact that Colreg was written "vaguely" so a maritime expert -or lawyer- hired by a country could bite a part of our ass in any collision situation! I'm having a hard time quantifying "nearly reciprocal".
Rimouski418 8 months ago
@Rimouski418 It is not a matter of interpretation. If you check the regs they clearly state the arc of visibility of a sidelight. If you are not within an arc that would have BOTH visible at night it is not head on. The thing about the regs is that they are not really vague. They are instead very explicit.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
And as you stated earlier they also ensure that there is a caveat and that is that if you find yourself so close to a collision that the actions of the giveway vessel are not sufficient to avoid the collision that you MUST take action yourself. That is why you very very rarely hear of a 100% accident on the water. Most are 75/25 or 80/20. If you haven't taken the time to read Cocroft and his explanations of the regs I suggest it. It has fantastic examples of each and great pics.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
huge ocean and they collide? stupids
TheBogart101 8 months ago
@Dingwell88. Yes, I do understand your point, but I was teached that reciprocal course was from complete opposite to 22.5 degrees off each side of the bow... Now that is a tricky one to call on this video... Also note that I wrote IF interpreted as a Head on...
Rimouski418 8 months ago
@Rimouski418 Well as my definition shows you were taught incorrectly. Obviously not everyone knows the rules verbatim so I usually point it out so they know. Part of my job is to know them and I actually have to write a monthly test that requires that I quote them.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
@Rimouski418 Are you sure that you are not confused with the requirements for an overtaking situation? Because you are deemed to be overtaking a vessel when you are approaching a vessel from greater than 22.5 degrees abaft her beam.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
Not much sympathy to be expected from the ship owners after they see this clip.
Starfishrider 9 months ago
Hope I don't meet those numnuts on the road lol.
roybird12 9 months ago 2
The smaller ship sunk and the other boat fled the scene leaving them to drown
neil7025 9 months ago
100% Polak "0:03 TRZYMAJ SIĘ" pozdroo "TRZYMAJ SIĘ" !
Rymono69 9 months ago
great stupid tourist stay where you belong fk ass
anti2012NWO 9 months ago
Women drivers!!!
sapher2020 9 months ago
It was the other boat's right of way. My guess is that they are roughly the same size (in shipping terms). If you meet a boat coming across your bow, and you can see their port side, it is your responsibility to avoid the collision. The captain of the other ship is not at fault as he was waiting for the the camera ship to manoeuvre.
phoenixh87 9 months ago
@phoenixh87 You are only half right. The ship with the camera is required by the rules to manoeuvre. Where the other guy is at fault is that they also state that you MAY take avoiding action when it becomes apparent that the other vessel is not acting IAW the collision regulations. You SHALL take avoiding action when the actions of the give-way vessel alone are not sufficient to avoid collision. This is why cases of 100% blame to one side is so rare in at sea collisions.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
perfect case right here for selective breeding,...we are the only mammals on Earth that does not practice this proven method for keeping the species healthy & vibrant.....Just sad.
wilatemodel 9 months ago 2
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Might makes right
khataroo 9 months ago
Might makes right
khataroo 9 months ago
i bet tpain wasnt on that boat
johncan12345 9 months ago
both captains were at falt, neither one was awake
bjbridge907 9 months ago
ten bucks says they were all drunk
NBfishing13 9 months ago
i wonder if andy samberg was on that boat
daf700 10 months ago
An obvious insurance scam, the small boat could EASILY have stopped or changed course. The larger ship doesnt even appear to be MOVING!
MrHobiecat 10 months ago
The port and starboard rule applies to vessels of EQUAL size.
A large ship ALWAYS has the right of way over a smaller boat. A large ship simply cannot turn or stop on a dime. The bow if the ship making the video is larger than the entire boat that was hit.
Whats more, I cant tell for sure if the larger boat was even moving?
MrHobiecat 10 months ago
But under Rule 2 of COLREGS both vessels are in the wrong. Neither made any sound signal or even attempted to alter course. Amazing. The greater responsibility lies with the larger vessel though and they are the ones gesticulating and carrying on. I wonder if they had any maritime training at all.
dermie52 10 months ago 16
@dermie52 Not just that, if there was no attempt to prevent the accident from both sides then both captains will be blamed for the accident.
rainerfilm 7 months ago
@dermie52 Actually, the smaller vessel is always to change course when coming onto another ship. Usually, passing by its port.
kidthing1119 7 months ago 2
Reminds me of a fatality accident when I was in North Dakota. 2 country roads, 90 degree intersection, flat as a pancake, mid day. You could see miles in any direction. The cars could have easily seen each other (or their dust plumes) for 2-3 minutes. One had right-of way (the one on the right), the other didn't. Both dead.
skiidahonorthsouth 10 months ago
Who's driving that little boat Steve Wonder.
xmetalrocker 10 months ago
Also, avoid collisions at all cost :)
zebidee86 11 months ago
It's not a port and starboard situation here, it's always give way to the boat on the right. the boat that's being filmed from is in the wrong.
zebidee86 11 months ago
@zebidee86 but how much bigger is the boat thats being filmed from. it might have bein easier to turn the other ship
SkoalBoy93 10 months ago
@zebidee86 port and starboard MEANS left and right, genius!
MrHobiecat 10 months ago
@MrHobiecat so if your looking at the front of the boat, the starboard side is on the right and port on the left? No, so think about that, genius....
zebidee86 10 months ago
@zebidee86 If you dont know which side of a boat is port or starboard you have no business being at the helm.
And besides, the bigger ship ALWAYS has the right of way, because you cannot right rules that defy the laws of physics, any more than a colored light at an intersection can stop a vehicle.
The small boat that got crushed was at fault, it could easily have stopped or changed course, but it didnt. The boat being filmed from doesnt even appear to BE MOVING!
MrHobiecat 10 months ago
@MrHobiecat you dont have to lecture me mate, im an ocean yachtmaster thanks.
zebidee86 10 months ago
@MrHobiecat You have no idea what you are talking about. The larger vessel does not automatically get right of way. Take a read of the international colregs. If you need a good lesson drop me an email and I will gladly explain it all to you.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
@Dingwell88 You will explain it to me? HAHAHAHHAA! I was a boarding officer in the US coast guard for FOUR YEARS.
You know why a LARGE SHIP (not larger vessel) ALWAYS has the right of way? Because it is physically impossible for a large ship to stop or to turn quickly. What is the point of writing navigation laws that defy the laws of physics?!
If you see a LARGE SHIP coming, get the HELL OUT OF ITS WAY, AND WATCH OUT FOR ITS WAKE TOO!
MrHobiecat 8 months ago
@MrHobiecat Ok, where to start, where to start.....
First of all: I have been a naval officer for 9 years. Our equivalent to the USN's SWO. The difference is that we don't really change our jobs as much. My job is to stand watches. Obviously yours is not because you would never pass a rules test with your made up rules.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
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Dingwell88 8 months ago
@MrHobiecat The rules DO NOT apply to vessels of equal size. In fact if you take a quick read you will see that "These rules apply to all vessels upon the high seas and in all waters connected therewith navigable by seagoing vessels."
These vessels aren't even close to being of a size that is restricted in it's ability to manoeuvre or constrained by her draught. If you knew anything about shiphandling you would know that these yachts are EXTREMELY manoeuvrable.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
@Dingwell88 How big is the ship that is filming the approaching tour boat? I see at least three decks, and the section in front of the camera is at least twice as big as the approahing tour boat. the cameraman is most likely infront of the bridge, which means the ship is at least 5 to 8 times the size of the approaching tour boat.
Small boats MUST yeild to a large ship, NO MATTER WHAT. And BTW, since when does the navy issue navigational citations?
MrHobiecat 8 months ago
@MrHobiecat I assume that you have never actually conned a ship before. I also assume that you have never stood a bridge watch because you only seem to make up rules and interpretations in your mind. If you ever happen to stand a watch let me know so that I can make sure I get posted to the opposite coast. I don't need people like you trying to run me down on the water because you don't know what you are supposed to do.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
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@Dingwell88 Chapter and verse skippy:
—INTERNATIONAL— Steering and Sailing Rules RULE 18 Responsibilities Between Vessels Except where Rules 9, 10 and 13 otherwise require: (a) A power-driven vessel underway shall keep out of the way of: (i) a vessel not under command; >>(ii) a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver; << (iii) a vessel engaged in fishing; (iv) a sailing vessel....
MrHobiecat 8 months ago
@Dingwell88 ii - a large ship (the one shooting the video) cannot stop or turn quickly. The tour boat was required to stay the hell out of the way.
In fact, from looking at the water its not clear if the large ship is even MOVING AT ALL
MrHobiecat 8 months ago
@MrHobiecat
It is not RAM or NUC or constrained by draught. Therefore it is a crossing situation. It does not relieve the giveway vessel of acting accordingly because he waits until the stand-on vessel is so close that his own actions alone can not avoid collision. What this means is that he should have taken avoiding action at a much closer range. These vessels turn VERY quickly. Therefore their "bubble" for when to turn is much closer, where as a tanker needs a much larger bubble.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
@Dingwell88 How do you turn VERY quickly if you are not even MOVING and your engines are shut down?
Do YOU see any wake, spray or foam or bow wave coming off the bow of the large SHIP?
ME NEITHER! Give it up, the little tour boat crashed into the ship.
MrHobiecat 8 months ago
@MrHobiecat It is clearly making way since after the collision its momentum carries it across the wake of the smaller vessel.
And spray? haha Do you see the small boat creating much spray? Nope, me neither. But it is clearly making way. Ever heard of a shadow zone?
Dingwell88 8 months ago
@Dingwell88 if the ship was moving its momentum would have carried it forward, pushing the tour boat out of its way. the tour boat hits the bow of the ship, then rolls off to the right. There is no indication the ship is moving, if it was that little boat would not have stopped it
and yes, I see the waves coming off the bow of the tour boat foaming the water, clearly.
On the ship, nothing.
MrHobiecat 8 months ago
@MrHobiecat It does carry it forward. It actually crosses the wake.
It is very easy to see the bow wake FROM THE OTHER SHIP. haha You will never see your bow wake when looking ahead unless you are in some decent sea state. Everything you say makes me realize that what you say about having sailed is complete BS. You might have worked in a coast guard OFFICE somewhere. You clearly have no idea about being a mariner.
Dingwell88 8 months ago
The Boat being filmed (Not the boat with the camera) had the right of way. Port = Red. Dont Go. The Boat being filmed would have seen the Boat with the camera's Starboard side. Starboard = Green. Go.
babyfacebosn 11 months ago
@babyfacebosn This is entirely true. A safer way is for the helmsman on the smaller craft to remove his eyes from the bikinis before the two craft are anywhere close and to change course in order to cross the larger vessel's wake. Others here have said the same thing essentially.
geoh7777 10 months ago
both are on autostupid
Mrpopoy83 11 months ago
At first i thought it was a rich kid crying... but then I realized it was just a seagull
kyle3420 11 months ago
0:12 ja pier... widać że polacy na łajbie ;]
berserkgatsu10 11 months ago
POLSKA! :D
Iamunpredictible 11 months ago
This ocean ain't big enough for both of us...
LOL
ersterhernd 11 months ago
Face Plant!
happymana 11 months ago
Fucking fake shit
zzztubazzz 11 months ago
seriously? when there is however many miles of ocean people still manage to crash there boat into another boat
pCf96 11 months ago
The stand-on (small) boat approaching off the starboard bow of the give-way only has right-of-way until it becomes clear that the give-way isn't budging. It has to be the most misunderstood and negligently taught rule of the sea. The green navigation bow light on the give-way does not grant license to the stand-on to maintain course and speed, presuming in a navigable seaworthy vessel.
RenoDoctor 11 months ago
smaller boat is way more maneuverable, should have given way when things were not yet fubar...
sleeptyper 11 months ago
Tyle miejsca w okolo i jak to kurwa mozliwe hahahahaha
majkelkisiel 1 year ago
fucking retards
999chan999 1 year ago
mmm..all that ocean...
burtonboy67 1 year ago 2
It is truly unbelieveable with all that open water that 2 ships can collide.The person in the smaller boat didnt even try to turn. Truly amazing.
ptmodit 1 year ago 2
@ptmodit according to maritime law the smaller boat had the right of way, I deal with these idiots when I'm in my 14 foolt tin can guess if they turn when I have the right of way
jakewoodstock 1 year ago
All that space , and they hit eachother like that ..... one word for it .BLIND
ThatCheeckyMunchkin 1 year ago
Charter boat? What charter boat? How can you not see a charter boat?
philthyforker 1 year ago
Daytime, nice weather, .... no brains.
eckyspondoolie 1 year ago
This is sooo fucking awesome...
Nacho66 1 year ago
LOL, ha ha ha, this absolutely brilliant! I cant stop watching it! How do you not see if you are going to crash like this! NUTS!
ShaunSkygraphics 1 year ago
that double-decker was some rich arab dude with his 4 wifes and 17 kids - he thought since he was a prince - he can do whatever he wants.
kbdkbd99 1 year ago
Nothing better than seeing two powerboats collide.....
It's sheer bliss for a sailor.
00Billy 1 year ago
To answer the question... Nope, yachts don't blend.
bigbengamer 1 year ago 2
@bigbengamer hahahaha
steriogram007 1 year ago
Idle rich fools. Probably out of work investment bankers, having fun before turning over their yachts to the brokers . . . .
mayonpi 1 year ago
a huge open sea and 2 idiots manage to run into each other
whalewatcher92 1 year ago
@whalewatcher92
That should be the title
Reverseflush 1 year ago
Apparently the Captain on the vessel from which this is being filmed forgot he's supposed to turn to starboard..... and shame on the other Captain for not taking appropriate action when he realized this idiot wasn't going to do anything to prevent a collision. Hope both these morons lost their licenses permanently.
deckie1985 1 year ago
I got a bigger yacht than you ....move over!.......DOH!
jeepers2655 1 year ago
now women drive yatchs?
360GamesProductions 1 year ago
It's a bit hard to accept that the two highest rated comments both think that this is funny. People can die from dumb shit acts like this. I guess societies race too the bottom continues.................
By the way, the bigger boat may have had the obligation to keep clear, but both skippers are at fault for not avoiding the collision.
davidwild66 1 year ago
@davidwild66 who cares you idiot. this is funny as long as it isnt you. you need to steer clear of the Internet
gillimaster 11 months ago
@gillimaster Are you on drugs boy? Where did I say this was funny?
davidwild66 11 months ago
I know since when was there a shortage of ocean????
herow29 1 year ago
I think we need larger oceans...
mattlieberman 1 year ago
What a bunch of fucking morons
BunnyTheLifeGaurd36 1 year ago 31
It will buff out.
bfgray 1 year ago
fucking huge ocean... and they collide
MarcoTUV 1 year ago 35
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@MarcoTUV "fucking huge ocean... and they collide"
My thoughts precisely . . .
greenrefrigerator 1 year ago
by the way it was the big Yacht who made the mistake
according to the rule of the road
thek0ji 1 year ago
now they have to exchange insurance info
noal900 1 year ago
Captain- "Here, hold the wheel while I go below and make an Old Fashioned" Passenger- "What if something goes wrong?"
Captain- "What could possibly go wrong with an Old Fashioned?"
Dockshund 1 year ago
who the fuck was manning the helms on these boats?!! someone needs to have their dick cut off with a butter knife....
fowzie777 1 year ago
It could happen to anyone, the oceans only cover most of the planet so they're a little on the small side!
09SRILANKA 1 year ago
Big Boat WINS.
BeholdMyStrength 1 year ago
They're pirates and they're gonna board!!! Quick, fetch me my blunderbuss!!!
damaged01 1 year ago
10 fukin points. out of 5.
sailed for 30 years and to see those assholes lose one boat......makes up for a lot.
00Billy 1 year ago
Prime rule is good seamanship. A mammoth oil tanker cannot be expected to yield for a < 50 m boat. Beside that, private recreation boats have to yield to professional transports, regardless of sails, oars or side. (at least in the Netherlands)
breintje91 1 year ago
@breintje91
no pro versus private in not an issue. Size does not matter. Trust me... I live of this stuff.
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deathbringerdk 1 year ago
@deathbringerdk Well actually, if we want to get technical, size matters in Rule 9 of CollReg (Narrow Channels), paragraph B:"A vessel less than 20 meters [...] shall not impede the passage of vessel which can safely navigate only within a narrow channel or fairway" . But I do get your point ;-)
Rimouski418 1 year ago
Woowwwww
BaltoSource123 1 year ago
the rules of the sea states that the ships with the other on the right must turn,,, so the ship that record this vid must turn for the other ship!
deathbringerdk 1 year ago
@deathbringerdk That's not 100% true.....the size of the vessels is also a consideration. The rules are also the more manourverable vessel must give way to the less manvoureable. Like to see you pull the starboard rule when you're in a sailing boat approaching a bulk carrier ;-)
15uzu 1 year ago
@15uzu
hi 15uzu
The rule you refere to is clearly stated that a ship using engine must turn for a boat using sail. Since an engine driven vessel can easier turn that a sailing boat.
size has nothing to do with the rules. A 400 meter long containership must still turn for a small speedboat if it is on the starboard side. I know this as I sail containership :)
deathbringerdk 1 year ago
@15uzu
not correct 15 Uzu
Only if the vessel shows the sign of being "restricted to manouvre"
please read "rule 18" in the Collision avoidance rules"
I agree good seamen ship require a small boat to turn for at big one... but that is my own statement.. The rules do not speak of size of ships.
deathbringerdk 10 months ago
THEY NEED ABS UPGRADE
glupgluplji 1 year ago
stupid somalian pirates
123randomdude 1 year ago
the flag on the back of the smaller one, Iraqi or Egyptian?
wafflehead98925 1 year ago
00:07... "Oh f*ck"
Rimouski418 1 year ago
Egyptians.
ALAJOHNSTONE 1 year ago
Assuming sea room for all and no boat is limited to a specific channel, the burdened vessel would be the one filming because he was heading for the port side of the other boat. However, the other vessel should of took corrective action when he saw that he was in harms way.
markleyg 1 year ago
Ships have wheels for a reason
jonesphillip25 1 year ago
If you take into account ship sizes and you must the smaller boat is obviously wrong...
No way in reality that the boat filming is in the wrong, how could he turn from a faster more agile boat?
romoe1212 1 year ago
Is that Croatian flag on the smaller boat?
How stupid and irresponsible can this big-yacht capitan be to crash into the smaller boat with people on the deck?!?
jujuqq 1 year ago
@jujuqq ur a fucking idiot they cant turn faster then a little boat there own fault hope they died
weskeeey 1 year ago
@weskeeey
You should learn the basics before postins such a stupidity! Nobody said that it shold turn THE LAST SECOND before collision!! The should have steered away quarter a mile before! And this "big ship" is just a yach and to steer away would mean turn the rudder 2 degrees off course or slow the ship for a quarter of a knot for two minutes! There seems to be no other restrictions which would prevent the skip of the bigger boat to do that. It's just his EGO which is restricted in some way..
jujuqq 1 year ago
Collision Regulations -Rule 15-Crossing situation. The smaller vessel had the right of way.
Rimouski418 1 year ago
@Rimouski418 Anyway, if interpreted as Rule 14- Head-On situation, both ships should alter to starboard. Ship filming is wrong in both situations, small ship is wrong if interpreted as Rule 14
Rimouski418 1 year ago
@Rimouski418 Well if you knew what a head-on situation was it would help you to realize that you are wrong. A head on situation is when vessels are approaching each other on reciprocal OR nearly reciprocal courses so as to involve risk of collision.
Dingwell88 8 months ago