People all around the world are looking for solutions to the ever-increasing problems but they are failing. Communism, Socialism and Marxism etc. have failed and capitalism is crumbling in front of our own eyes. The reason behind this is firstly, humans are limited in the scope of intellect, thus they are unable to fully comprehend an issue from all aspects. Secondly they are given to lust and greed which affects their judgement when dealing with a problem. Islam is the solution.
how can this be a war? just because people dont believe in the existence of a god, there needs to be a war over that? whatever. im an atheist and i say bring it on.
The three Abrahamic religions are the most evil and dangerous organizations on earth. The world would be a safer place if there were no religion in it.
I think atheists are tired of being downtrodden. There has never been tolerance toward them, and certainly we need to keep religion out of public schools and the State separate from faith and creed. Are not these things no-brainers?
HELL IS REAL!!! If we have lied, stolen, hated someone, looked with lust, had sex outside of marriage, used profanity, etc., we are guilty and in danger of spending eternity in hell after this life. However, that is not God's desire for us. Christ came from heaven to take our punishment on Himself and die on a cross. Three days later He arose and now commands us to turn from sin and trust in Him. See my video titled “Warning:Four Types of People That Are Hellbound”.
They don't think it's delusional to believe in an invisible man as an authority! -LOL And then freak out when Dawkins calls it delusion. He's calling it as he sees it.
i will defend myself and my family violently from anything involved with religion. It's absolutely stupid intellectual poison that has no place in our society. Like Pat Condell said "Religion deserves no respect because it offers no respect" and that's exactly how we all need to treat it.
This puts a huge smile on my face. Christians are shitting their pants over civil public discourse about the credibility of their belief system. The things that Dawkins and Hitchens say hold no more animosity than this video! The irony is dripping from my computer screen
Good challenge. I challenge all atheists to go to Saudi Arabia and present your speech on how Religion is bullshit. And let me know after you get back to the West, that's only if you make it back to the west.
@songwriter4artists Well, go ahead, then. Put your money where your mouth is, and go to Saudi Arabia. Try to convert them to christianity. I'm sure it'll work really well, after all, YOUR God is real, and THEIR God is fake, so you have nothing to fear! God will protect you, so there's nothing stopping you from doing it!
@songwriter4artists O wow your a quick one to jump to conclusions. But don't worry your little head because I am not an Atheist, but I'm also not a delusional Christian either. Also I highly doubt that you would go to Saudi Arabia and preach your Christian doctrine to them either, you Christians are just as much infidels to them as an Atheist would be.
@songwriter4artists if your gods are so great why don’t you go to Saudi Arabia and present your speech on how islam is bullshit. And let me know after you get back to the West, that's only if you make it back to the west.
@songwriter4artists Your challenge is bullshit. Have you not learned anything yet. Atheist think and reason.
Not one would try unless it was one of their own people. Are you saying people should fear christians the same way, here in the modern world? If you are then this is exactly why we speak up. There is no religion called atheism, it is individual humans who don't believe in fairies or gods or anything supernatural. Simple concept really. Brains created or not ! Use them please, wake up.
You are missing the point. The reason Dawkins can publish his book in the Western world is because these countries are secular, NOT christian, as he says.
Gosh, until not too long ago, you couldn't even get a Playboy or condoms in Ireland, ang guess why that is? Why was Ireland called the last basation of the Pope?
You can thank humanists and enlightenment for the fact you got freedom of speech, it had to be wraught from Christianity 1st. Islam has this process still ahead.
@songwriter4artists Yeah, That's just why it's bullshit! In countries like Saudi Arabia -you can't even criticize Islam, or maybe theyll throw you in prison, or chop off you head! A lot of right-wing Christians want to make it illegal to criticize Christianity here and who knows where that would lead, because that's what happens when church and state are not kept separate. BTW - Atheism does'nt need propaganda and does'nt indulge in it.
@songwriter4artists - What a stupid challenge? It goes along the line of go and tell it to the person that will hit you. It's hardly a challenge. Please don't forget the west went through it's violence many hundreds of years ago to be able to have the freedoms to speak our mind. It would of been just the same kind of challenge to do the same in England hundreds of years ago. What point do you think you was making?
@songwriter4artists Why don't you religious folks all move in together and let us know how that works? Fortunately we live in a secular country where religions can no longer kill those who do not share their delusions. I'm staying right here. Let the Islamists come here and tell me I have to accept Sharia law.
@songwriter4artists Its hilarious that you don't even realize what you are saying. All you have done is prove the point of all atheists that religion is immoral, violent and irrational...
Religion is Dangerous and you have just proved that point with your comment ...
@songwriter4artists Saudi Arabia is a prefect example of how relgion is a load of hate filled misogynistic bullshit and hypocrisy and how your God is a fucking ass.
On the college argument I agree with the video. Education is certainly going to shatter anyone's beliefi in an invisible sky daddy.
that only shows how religion is primitive and how does it encouraging violence.how those pople do something for their god that their god actually forbid to do.
Fundamentalists get really excited when people oppose them. Then again, they're practically asking for it to the point where I wonder if it gets them off.
losing their faith while in college... ahh thats becasue knowledge/education is religions worst enemy. Once you give it even minimal thought, it becomes obvious that it is BS
Start teaching religion at a young age so they don't lose their faith when they get older... gee that kinda sounds like a scared cult telling its followers to brainwash early.
2:40 atheists should just let everyone "live and let live"
I wish religous people would stay out of my life, my politcs, my childrens education, my societies attempts at progress through science, peoples basic human rights.
Next they say intolerant, and militant? what! umm no im afraid that is again a religous problem.
not doing there homework... studies have been done, and the results are in... athiest score substaintially higher on religous knowledge than the believers, iq tests to
1:50 He laughs at the notion that its ridiculous to think that 80%-90% of the population believe in god and therefore to think that maybe they are wrong is foolish,umm almost 100% of the world thought that the earth was flat, imagine those stupid people that first said "no, i think its round" or the vast majority "knowing" that the earth was then center of the universe, crazy fools trying to say that the earth revolves areound the sun, how silly.
"A new brand of atheism" ... its very public, very in your face, promoted and supported by publishers... what the fuck?!? soo what has religion been been doing forever? Atheist are using shows popular with the young people... lol like its a conspiracy or something... Athiest will attack... never heard of that, but I get ripped by my own family for my views, people are literally killed today in 2011 for not believing, what are these nuts talking about!
I love this... because people are becoming more educated and rejecting the ridiculous notions put forth by the major religions and starting to publicly ask questions and stand up for their beliefs they are being labeled as some kind of 'extremists'. What are Hitchens & Dawkings doing that is any different than what the religious have been doing for 1000s of years.
@blahblahreadabook Dawkins, Hitchens, et al are not asking people to believe everything they say, donate 10% of their gross income, and plead with invisible deities to avoid unimaginable torment. They are asking people to think about what they believe and why. I think this is sufficiently different to religions.
@askegg I think you misunderstood me... I was trying to say that religions have been spreading their message in a often violent/deadly way for 1000s of years, and if Dawkins & Hitchens (both who I support & enjoy) go on shows to talk about their beliefs then how can religion say this is inapporpriate or extreme when they have been doing it for a very long time, sorry if it didnt come across that way.
@blahblahreadabook Im an atheist, and I for one am afraid that some atheists are starting to get just as dominant as the religious just to be. When I hear Richard Dawkins say: only the truth matters, he seems to forget that there is no single truth. So there has to be room for religious and non religious people alike. Since we cant agree on what is actually true, we should leave each other alone. So our laws should not be based on religion. You dont want abortion and euthanasia? Fine. See part 2
@Ranokian I think we need to be louder than religous believers. Someone has to be the voice of reason, and if we atheists just sit around and respectivly keep our mouths shut then the religous will forever dominate the conversation, the politcs, and the course/direction of our culture and society. So speak up loud and proud:)
In regards to your comments on truth, I respecfully disagree... there is a single truth, always, & if at first it appears not, we just haven't found the truth yet.
@blahblahreadabook We need to be heard yes. Especially in countries like the US where religion is so dominant. And yeah, at times we need to be to loud!
And about the truth. I agree, we need to find it, where do we come from, why we are here, etc. But at the same time you have to realize that no matter what the truth is, people will always disagree. So its better to give each other some slack and respect each others belief and do not enforce it on one another.
@blahblahreadabook We agree on a lot. We need be to be loud at times, especially in countries where religion is as dominant as in the US.
And regarding the truth: of course, we need to find it.. where do we come from, etc. Valuable questions. But no matter what the truth is, people will disagree on it. And remember, the religious think they have the truth! So lets not be like them, lets not stuff our vision, true or not, trough each others throat. Otherwise we are not much better.
@blahblahreadabook Then make a law that clearly states that you it cant be forced upon you. But here is the catch.. The law should also make sure you are able to get it. Not as easy available as candy, but still. If you are not willing to make laws and moral codes that actually include some "room"for the non believers, you'll will always have to deal with those pesky atheists. And yes, some atheists are right in your face, but be aware that its mainly a reaction to the theistic dominance.
75% of college students come out atheist? I don't believe it but if that were true, I'd be ecstatic. However I know that is a lie, which is what christians typically do. Lets get this country out of the dark ages, can we please?
I like how they see the answer as "teaching children at a young age".... Yes, that is the key, get them young when they are too uneducated to know better!
"despite the glaring flaws of atheism!" LOL good one, Atheism is neither a religion, an ideology a philosophy, a belief system a creed nor a world view. Atheism is the rejection of belief in the existence of any deities (gods) as opposed to theism, which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists. Wonderful bias peace of reporting, I love the end, "the truth will prevail!" no shit Sherlock :)
Christians have forgotten how good it really is to have god love you.
For instance, incest is really really bad - unless it's our heavenly father doing it.
I for one always delight in having god sneak into my room late at night, to fondle me for a while and then shove his godly cock up my arse, and Jesus is our "man man" love child.
So we must remember at all times, just how much god really does love us.
I am atheist becuse i've developed critical thinking and im not naive
Religon came from writings used to give example of ideal human behavor but where taken to literaly and were combined into the holy testement which i view as a dr.sues book
And now the are scared that the will loose followers and thus looose money becuse god cost more than oil
Okay, you asked who murdered in the name of atheism? Let's see: Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Marques de Sade, Po Plot, Mao, Marx, and there's others. And Marilyn Manson isn't a person I'd want my little children idolizing. Just saying. And atheism doesn't equal intelligence.
While the guy shouldn't say "I'm an expert," Atheists use the argument from authority ALL THE TIME. If you know how many times atheists say, and I paraphrase: "But the establishment can't be wrong," "But EVERY SCIENTIST concurs," and VERY rarely: "But they're the MAJORITY of SCIENTISTS," you would think twice before criticizing some religious person for using the same logical fallacy.
How will the fall of religion help matters? People will just fight over other things. It is human nature to have wars and be bad. With or without religion. Remember JOseph Stalin? He was an atheist and he murdered millions of innocent Believers.
one other thing what religion teaches really is a basic moral foundation not all christains are the same just like not all atheists are the same, if you can't belive that fine and i don't think that atheist go to hell i think you go if your a bad person and i see alot of bad people everyday, and if you really want to solve problem start from the real source i find people with justifie their actions with what they belive science or religion, to wipe out religion won't stop bad people.
It's does not matter what you think - it's what Jesus says
thats religion and the bible talking not jesus
start from the real source, what mean is find the real reason why people do bad things
Who said all evil came from religion? That's absurd.
hey i agree it's human nature so by that how is atheisim going to save the world.
when it comes down to it you can only call me stupid, you have not see what i have seen. there is science in all things even god, it just can't be understood by humans
you know what? i'm not a atheist or religous but even i can see that atheism can be just as dangerous racist and violent as radical extremist religion, look at the world rapist serial killers snuff films and the list goes on wars are because of power and politics name just one war that did not not have a political agenda behind it. you can't even of you don't want to admit it us humans have been trying to kill each other off from the beging of time and we now have the tools to finish the job
well i'll say it i do belive in god my view are very much christian comming from a anti-religous background i don't have a religion. but to answer your question i don't belive in ignorance or hate and what these men Richard Dawkins, Bill Maher ect. see the really promoting hate and to mock any one that is religous that not much better than extreme christianity, i belive in peace and their are too many ist in the world racist, femmist, socialist, atheist, the only ist their should be is humanist.
@POOLBOYROCKSTAR Disbelief is not hate. Telling people their souls will burn in eternal flames if they don't believe what you do is. Forcing people to pray to their invisible friend is silly. Asking people to forgo evidence and rational thinking in place of faith and feelings is ridiculous.
never said that disbelief was hate and you do have the right to say what you want but you don't have the right to single people out and to mock them thats hate, if people can't show respect in what their talking and how then those people shoud not talk at all. have peaceful debates like Greg Graffin not angry people like Richard Dawkinks.if people don't want to undersatnd you they won't but if they do then they will, and i'm not saying forgo rational thinking but rational thinking is not reality
it's never right to single people out and richard dawkins is so angry even i can tell that he loses his shit in alot of videos i have seen, richard dawkins hates religion as i think you do too it makes you angry so because of that he can never have a objective look too emotional, to say religous people are stupid and judging them acourding to what their belifes are that is hate. it even sound alot like racism hateing black people beacuse of the black criminals thats a streriotype
@POOLBOYROCKSTAR Is it right to single out Osama Bin Laden? I also dislike religion because of what it makes people think is moral, and as a consequence how they behave. None of it is rooted in rational reality - it's all hocus pocus rubbish. The sooner people realise that, the better.
Osama Bin Ladin is a murderer regardless of what he belives he must be stoped but not because of what he belives but because he is a murderer, those people are not thinking right because they have been programed to do horrible shit. if i was a atheist and still wanted to kill to kill alot of people i could still do it, in a world where religion doesn't exist i would have to use science. human being can rationalize any thing to themselves if they want to atheist or religious. can do this forever
i said if i wanted to kill someone anyone has the potential to be killers pick a phycology book , even you have that killer instinct just go visit a jail and tell that you find i work in prison so know what human nature is. and look up the word Rationalize because right now your acting irational by not realizing that human nature is sick right to the core, do i have to tell you about the atheist felons i have come across that have done horrible things. atheism just as bad as religion
i don't know the answer to that question i'd like to find the answers, all i can say is that my views are very much christian but that doesn't mean that i belive in christianity. i'm not saying that science can't explain things but that it can explain everything but thats doesn't say that there is no god no, he the one that makes it all happen. i know that there is what we think is the real world and then there's reality they exist outside of each other, your still worth something regardless
Religion keeps ppl in line, gives hope and support, and provides a meaning and spiritual guidance in one's life. Atheism can't do none of that. Also, religion gives to charites and helps out in disaster zones.
@compsciguy Just because something gives people hope does not make it true. Also, there are many great secular charities: Doctors without borders and the Red Cross to name two.
Free speech? So if I go into a church and yell "I'm gonna kill every one of you stupid delusional Xians in the name of atheism" I should not get arrested? Free speech, after all?
Disbelieve is not hate? Then what do you call the atheists who hate Xians? Joseph Stalin? Hitler? Marques de Sade? Po Plot? Mao? Marilyn Manson? ALL atheists, all so full of evil and hate.
@compsciguy Have you read the works of Martin Luther? Do you know how much he hated the Jews? Can you draw the straight line to the Catholic Church and their persecution of the Jews for centuries? They even held them in ghettos up until the late 1800's. Can you see where Hitler (who often stated he was a Catholic doing God's work) got his ideas?
Atheists are full of hate? Have a closer look at those who walk with your god.
I see this as the beginning of faith! Faith has just begun in the grand scheme of things!! I try to stay positive but not in a denial sort of way which is inappropriate always. If people say something to me that is slanderous or violent, l try let it roll off my back. They may be very very emotionally sunburned and hyper-sensitive, or else they may be projecting their traits onto decent folks. Let's try be meek anyway (not weak mind you), for blessed they are. I think faith is just beginning!
These atheists! There are saying things that are forbidden! Not only that, fate is so fragile and it cannot support facts and logic. This makes Jesus cry!
In minute 3:05 - 3:50, Zacharias states that Sam Harris lumps Christianity with Islam. Either Zacharias is a liar or he hasn't read Harris' "End of Faith" or his numerous articles. Harris, as well as Dawkins and Hitchens, have repeatedly made the distinction between Christianity and Islam, stating that Christianity is far more civil, due to the secularization of the west and the enlightenment, than Islam is, and they admonish all secularists not to treat them the same. Zacharias is dishonest.
So the central point of this segment was that Christians are scared that atheism and general religious skepticism is migrating from the esoteric realm of academia, where only highly specialized people talk about it, into the general public in a manner that the general public can understand? Why be so worried, if your beliefs are so true and defensible? The truth is that these Christians know that their beliefs may not be true, and aren't really defensible.
When it's believers criticizing atheists, it's teaching a moral standard. When it's atheists voicing out their opinion about fucked up religions, it's an insult.
Cry me a river, please. Fucking hypocrites. And they dare calling us intolerant? Wtf... This is precisely why people are leaving religions. The level of blatant self-righteousness and douchebagness (sic???) is fucking amazing.
@hellhammerz666 oh, hellhammer, since u glorify hell, without knowing it, you believe in God...Since God created heaven and hell.....Religion doesn't get u saved, and Jesus called the 'religious leaders' of His time, 'blind guides and hypocrites'....Its not about saying 'hail mary a hundred times or not eating fish on fridays...Believing Jesus dies for your sins is what gets you saved, and muslims don't believe this, and think anyone that disagrees should be killed--kinda sounds like liberals..
@hellhammerz666 oh, hellhammer, since u glorify hell, without knowing it, you believe in God...Since God created heaven and hell.....Religion doesn't get u saved, and Jesus called the 'religious leaders' of His time, 'blind guides and hypocrites'....Its not about saying 'hail mary a hundred times or not eating fish on fridays...Believing Jesus died for your sins is what gets you saved, and muslims don't believe this, and thinks anyone that disagrees should be killed--kinda sounds like liberals..
@76reliant Don't mind my nick. It only refers to my musical taste. I know it's tempting, but try to not build up strawman arguments against an atheist with something as trivial as a screen name. In the end, you're simply ignoring an argument against your cohersive religion, just repeating over and over the same bullshit that's been fed to you to get you in this claptrap in the first place. In the real world, there's no such transgression that requires a saviour. You've been scammed.
@76reliant Another funny coincidence, even though kinda off topic, but very consistent through the hypochristian mindset programming is the notion that atheism and liberalism are somehow the same. Breaking news, they are not, although it certainly has more affinity than conservatism, practical reality tells us everyone has relative stances in regards to these 2 ideological tendencies. Basically, for some stuff we tend to be liberal, and for other stuff we tend to be conservative.
@hellhammerz666 If you haven't noticed, most athiests are liberal democrats..Many of the hollywood 'stars' and movie producers ect are atheists....This is because they have left moral laws, which are God based....Liberals believe in removing God, pro murder/abortion(even the partial birth abortion), protecting pedaphilacs, rapists, murderers, ect..This is because you actually 'believe' that psychology will somehow fix their understanding...This is a typical liberal/atheist....
@76reliant So what? A lot of criminals are christians by jail statistic. A lot of crazy fundamentalists are christians. That doesn't mean anything, except that some christians are part of those groups. In reality, your imaginary friend isn't required to be a decent person. I myself am a living proof of it. You claim atheists leave morality behind and other nonsense your pastors may have fed you, yet i've never raped a woman, murdered anyone or stolen shit.
@76reliant Wanna twist words around to suit your stupid conservative hypochristian macho white male agenda? At least understand what conditions make abortion a viable option. Would you be fine with a woman being forced to have a baby from a rapist just because you believe a fucking egg to be a fully formed human being? When you get raped and get forced to do so, only then you have a voice in that desition, otherwise, shut the fuck up and save your bigoted opinions to yourself.
@76reliant And no, i don't believe psychology would fix a pedophile. If it depended on me, those fuckers would deserve death penalty, but i guess that would violate the "sanctity of life" your imaginary friend gave us humans, right? I'm an atheist, yet i hate many aspects of liberal ideology. Your argument is rendered invalid.
@76reliant If you haven't noticed, most religious nuts are conservative republicans. Many of the rural country 'bumpkins' and uneducated ect are christians. This is because they have left moral laws, which are common sense based. christians believe in forcing God, pro murder/deathpenatly(even stoning), protecting pedophiles, rapists, murderers, ect. This is because you actually 'believe' that psychology will somehow fix their understanding. This is a typical conservative/christian.
What a bunch of morons. Of course, when you can't comment freely on it, that must mean that they're so certain of their ideas being correct, right? Fearing those who question you is a sign of confidence, right?......
Your pissed off that Atheists are voicing their opinion? What the fuck have you guys been doing for the past thousands of years!? Christians have done so many horrible things in the past hundreds of years, they're even going today! They aren't as brutal, but they are still here! Only now are Atheists accepted into society, and even then they're still being discriminated.
@Courteousness The selling of indulgences, the burning of people perceived to be witches, the molestation of young boys, the prevention of human science from advancing, they condoned slavery, Racism and the KKK, the pope banning condoms in Africa spreading more of the HIV virus, misogyny, Tomas de Torquemada, not to mention, god has killed more people than Satan. Do I need to continue? Or is that proof enough that Christianity is more evil than good?
@Courteousness You're obviously trying to be funny, and it's not working. You know those things are bad, and you're making yourself look like an ass by even joking that those things are good. So I'm not gonna comment anymore because it's pointless to talk to someone so ignorant such as yourself. I hope you'll become more mature in the future.
@darkmachete you state your belief when you can present nothing for it, It's called a delusion. If I wanted to kill you, what on earth can claim it's wrong, the government? Second question afterwords is "Why is the Government correct?"
@Courteousness My evidence is that it upsets people, it's called human instinct. When someone dies, people become upset. The government is not correct all the time, but it's the closest thing we have to order in the world. We gotta appreciate what we do have. It's okay to be a little nihilist about things, but most people consider all the things I listed as bad, which is why most perceive it as bad. Who's to say what's good and bad? Answer: The majority of the people.
@darkmachete The majority of those events were contacted by people who believe it to be "Good", my point is prove to me at that time the actions were wrong, if we have no purpose to follow. The majority of the world eats cats and Dogs, the other half dislikes that and wishing it to be band, which is right? If I was the only person left on earth, what makes killing you? A "Advanced monkey"
@mike444170 It's wrong at that time because IT KILLED PEOPLE! Do you fucking get that? Killing people is BAD! What makes it bad? People get SAD! We do have a purpose, to learn as much as we can and to do as much as much good as we can in the short amount of time we have together on Earth. Religion prevents learning, and it kills people (9/11 for example). End of discussion. You don't like it? Then go ahead and comment me back saying so. But then go do something helpful instead of youtubing. :)
@darkmachete Why shouldn't I make people sad? Am I going to go to hell or something for killing people? What the hell should anyone care? After the planet ends, we turn into nothing, which shows the purpose of out existence means nothing, we're just animals wondering around a unless universe. That's what Atheism has told me
If you have evidence that there actually is a hell and that people are likely to go there then you would be obligated to tell as many people you could by any any means you could how to avoid hell.
The problem is you have no evidence. All you have is an ancient mythology that can only be accepted by those who are will to compromise their reason. When you say things that scare people into believing and doing things they ordinarily wouldn't believe or do that's terrorism.
@SamWiseGingy You've taken the wrong aspect of belief, I'm talking to you using a computer, I believe it was created by design, when I see planets in space which are millions of times more complex I believe it was created by design, the bible clearly states "if you want evidence of God, look at the skies". Now accepting a deity, I believe the morality by this deity is simply placed consequence of Heaven and Hell. It's not because I'm scared, it's because I use reason.
Hell a place where people go after they die to suffer physical torture for eternity because of the their deficiencies base on some combination of virtue and faith depending on who you ask. That sounds reasonable to you?
Basing your life on ideas that you have no evidence for and no way of confirming sounds reasonable to you?
@SamWiseGingy No, you've misunderstood again, I have no evidence for Hell, though I have no evidence against hell, again biblical meaning is "Faith", if everyone knew God existed then there wouldn't be a struggle in life, we would have to accept God, which means the ability to choose is removed
Let me get this straight you have no evidence of hell yet you order you life around it and warn me to do the same. That sir, (I presume sir) is irrational.
So even though the Bible is a book that tells how God showed himself to people if he showed himself to us now that would take away our free will.
@SamWiseGingy No, I've stated the meaning of the bible, to some point is belief. Reason, I just said, if there isn't a doubt left to believe, then we wouldn't have free will, even the disciples of Christ doubted Christ, if you believe the bible isn't about faith, then I'm willing to hear your answer, though I believe Hell in some way, is like God, you can't be absolutely sure about hell, though you can't be absolutely sure I'm not an Alien either
We know how computers are made, there made by people. We don't know everything about how the universe was made. One thing we do know is that people didn't make the universe. But that doesn't mean that a god did it either. Once you say "god did it" then you have a logical burden to tell which god out of the many thousands of gods named by humans did it and how you know that god did it rather than the god next door. Theist have never met that burden without appealing to t. Bible.
@SamWiseGingy I haven't claimed God created it, I've just seen the reasons for and against and I believe it's reasonable to accept a creator. I can always turn the table, "I'm not claiming there's a God, Just prove to me there isn't? Until then I'll accept there is" You have as much burden of proof as me.
@Courteousness There are many ideas that can not be proven false that are not worthy of belief. You can not prove that there isn't a tea pot orbiting the earth. But that doesn't mean it reasonable to believe that is a tea pot orbiting the earth.
If the best argument you have is that I can't prove you wrong, then you have a very weak argument indeed, given that you are claiming that Jesus is King of King and Lord of Lords. Now if you wish to back off the claims then you wouldn't need evidence.
@SamWiseGingy First of all, you keep asking me for evidence, I'd like to ask you what kinda of evidence do you wish to see? Also I'll ask you what is evidence? Second of all, I've used reason to justify my answers in my view, I'm not claiming there isn't a tea pot, though when there's 50 reasons to believe in a tea pot, and only 10 to believe there isn't, I'd just the teapot, with reason.
You were telling me that I ought to believe in Jesus or I would go to hell.
I asked you for evidence of hell and you tell me you have none.
Unless and until you have reasons back up by evidence for asking people to believe as you do you should desist from doing so, otherwise all you are doing is deceiving the feeble minded, including yourself.
@SamWiseGingy Not only do you have issues reading what I've claimed, though you're not debating on the same levle. I haven't claimed if you don't believe in Jesus, You'll go to hell, since you keep talking about proof why don't you prove what you claim I've said? not only are you putting words into my mouth, they seem quite unintelligent as if you have deformities of reading.
@SamWiseGingy You have to provide reasons and evidence to show my belief is based on afterlife, the majority of people today who see faith and reason beyond afterlife references. If you believe in chance and taking a decision belief in
"God not only is defense of your death if the existence of Heaven is Correct, it can be prevention of the dreaded Hell." So you're belief not only causes a huge hole of Risk, I see no benifit in accepting it
@mike444170 I guess one of you is a sock puppet. But it really doesn't matter.
When you die your body feeds worms. There is no evidence that any thing of you goes any where. No heaven. No hell. All that will survive you are memories that you made with the living and accomplishments. Those are the facts that have the support of reason. Everything else is religion and/or superstition.
The life you have is the only life you know you will get, so use it well.
@SamWiseGingy What if you're buried in a casket? Are the worms going to eat though a casket? What if you die in the sand? And there words that live in sand? Want if you get incriminated when you die? are the worms going to eat your ashes? Why do you need evidence? Isn't hell suppose to be something by death? So there is no evidence? Does that mean it isn't real? there's no evidence for Gold on Pluto, doesn't mean it isn't there.
"Feeding worms" is just a euphemism for decaying and returning to dust.
You and your friend Courteousness are telling me if I don't get my mind right I'm bound for hell without providing any credible evidence that there is a hell. When you do that you are terrorists. You are attempting to sow fear in the minds of men so that you can have power over them. I presume that is what others have done to you.
@SamWiseGingy we're the same person, I'm not claiming you go to hell, why on earth would I Care if you go to hell? Do you think I'm arguing with fear to convince you my beliefs? I'm in a very non-religious family, Science has led me to believe in God, I'm going to study theology, I've listened to 200 hours of university lectures. I also happen to be 16
You said: " Now accepting a deity, I believe the morality by this deity is simply placed consequence of Heaven and Hell. It's not because I'm scared, it's because I use reason."
Now dude you can't mention hell if you don't want to be accused of scaring people. I know what you Christians think hell and why you think people go there.
@SamWiseGingy I'm sorry? Do you study theology? I'd place thousands of dollars on the bet I know Christianity more then you, it's history, it's founders, it's changes. Again, Why should I care if you go to hell?
Look Mike or whoever you are, if you don't who Thomas Paine is or his place in history and theology then you obviously have serious gaps in you knowledge of history.
In any case I have no interest in a personal argument with you.
As to the source of evil, evolution provides much more insights into human behavior than the idea that we inherited sin from Adam and Eve.
And yes it was deceptive of you to be two faced and then say "I didn't say."
@SamWiseGingy If I start quoting 200 year old people, there would be a hell lot more on my side then yours. Evolution shows behavior, not evil, we're simply a form of a primate, are you telling me animals can be evil?
@SamWiseGingy how do you know how much money I have? you seem to make judgmental decisions, I don't base my belief on afterlife, the existence of heaven doesn't interest me, the existence of God does.
The original cannot be found any more. I would have preferred it.
MultiAquinas 1 month ago
People all around the world are looking for solutions to the ever-increasing problems but they are failing. Communism, Socialism and Marxism etc. have failed and capitalism is crumbling in front of our own eyes. The reason behind this is firstly, humans are limited in the scope of intellect, thus they are unable to fully comprehend an issue from all aspects. Secondly they are given to lust and greed which affects their judgement when dealing with a problem. Islam is the solution.
reflectimage 2 months ago
"get em while they're young" :\ these people sicken me
Richy15251 2 months ago
It's a takeover!
Atheism supported by a publishing house? How come there aren't any publishing houses devoted to Christian books?
Atheists interviewed on the news? How come Christians aren't ever interviewed on the news?
An atheist promoting his book on the Daily Show? How come you never see a Christian promoting his book on that show?
And how come there's a "Skeptic" section of the bookstore, but not a "Religious/Spirituality" section?
It's a conspiracy!
FiverBeyond 2 months ago 3
how can this be a war? just because people dont believe in the existence of a god, there needs to be a war over that? whatever. im an atheist and i say bring it on.
trampledone 2 months ago
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The three Abrahamic religions are the most evil and dangerous organizations on earth. The world would be a safer place if there were no religion in it.
max2right 2 months ago
How dare you godless militant atheists expect free speech in America.
DarkHorse0863 3 months ago
I think atheists are tired of being downtrodden. There has never been tolerance toward them, and certainly we need to keep religion out of public schools and the State separate from faith and creed. Are not these things no-brainers?
jamesjaw 3 months ago
I am out. Feels good
FreakmundZoid 4 months ago
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HELL IS REAL!!! If we have lied, stolen, hated someone, looked with lust, had sex outside of marriage, used profanity, etc., we are guilty and in danger of spending eternity in hell after this life. However, that is not God's desire for us. Christ came from heaven to take our punishment on Himself and die on a cross. Three days later He arose and now commands us to turn from sin and trust in Him. See my video titled “Warning:Four Types of People That Are Hellbound”.
EvangelizeYourWorld 4 months ago
They don't think it's delusional to believe in an invisible man as an authority! -LOL And then freak out when Dawkins calls it delusion. He's calling it as he sees it.
Lennon4ever1 5 months ago
Oh someone's Jesus! xD The commentary makes this video awesome! lolol
CRUSH3Rdlux 5 months ago
i will defend myself and my family violently from anything involved with religion. It's absolutely stupid intellectual poison that has no place in our society. Like Pat Condell said "Religion deserves no respect because it offers no respect" and that's exactly how we all need to treat it.
AtheismISgod 5 months ago
4:33 Are you reading the fundie block o' text? Because it gets real interesting right about here.
zEropoint68 5 months ago
This puts a huge smile on my face. Christians are shitting their pants over civil public discourse about the credibility of their belief system. The things that Dawkins and Hitchens say hold no more animosity than this video! The irony is dripping from my computer screen
soundsilence9 6 months ago
Good challenge. I challenge all atheists to go to Saudi Arabia and present your speech on how Religion is bullshit. And let me know after you get back to the West, that's only if you make it back to the west.
songwriter4artists 6 months ago
@songwriter4artists Fatwa envy.
askegg 6 months ago 6
@songwriter4artists And your point is?
LibertarianThinker 6 months ago
@LibertarianThinker My point is that you will not go to Saudi Arabia and spout out your atheist bullshit.
songwriter4artists 6 months ago
@songwriter4artists Well, go ahead, then. Put your money where your mouth is, and go to Saudi Arabia. Try to convert them to christianity. I'm sure it'll work really well, after all, YOUR God is real, and THEIR God is fake, so you have nothing to fear! God will protect you, so there's nothing stopping you from doing it!
Go on, then! What are you waiting for?
JonasPlanck 6 months ago
@songwriter4artists O wow your a quick one to jump to conclusions. But don't worry your little head because I am not an Atheist, but I'm also not a delusional Christian either. Also I highly doubt that you would go to Saudi Arabia and preach your Christian doctrine to them either, you Christians are just as much infidels to them as an Atheist would be.
LibertarianThinker 6 months ago
@songwriter4artists Now why would we want to do that Mr. Sillypants?
bigboy45454545 6 months ago
@songwriter4artists Your challenge just highlights exactly why the atheist message needs to be spread
mehico33 6 months ago
@songwriter4artists if your gods are so great why don’t you go to Saudi Arabia and present your speech on how islam is bullshit. And let me know after you get back to the West, that's only if you make it back to the west.
hawkertruffelsnout 6 months ago
@songwriter4artists Your challenge is bullshit. Have you not learned anything yet. Atheist think and reason.
Not one would try unless it was one of their own people. Are you saying people should fear christians the same way, here in the modern world? If you are then this is exactly why we speak up. There is no religion called atheism, it is individual humans who don't believe in fairies or gods or anything supernatural. Simple concept really. Brains created or not ! Use them please, wake up.
corktech 5 months ago
@songwriter4artists
You are missing the point. The reason Dawkins can publish his book in the Western world is because these countries are secular, NOT christian, as he says.
Gosh, until not too long ago, you couldn't even get a Playboy or condoms in Ireland, ang guess why that is? Why was Ireland called the last basation of the Pope?
You can thank humanists and enlightenment for the fact you got freedom of speech, it had to be wraught from Christianity 1st. Islam has this process still ahead.
Baerchenization 5 months ago
@songwriter4artists Yeah, That's just why it's bullshit! In countries like Saudi Arabia -you can't even criticize Islam, or maybe theyll throw you in prison, or chop off you head! A lot of right-wing Christians want to make it illegal to criticize Christianity here and who knows where that would lead, because that's what happens when church and state are not kept separate. BTW - Atheism does'nt need propaganda and does'nt indulge in it.
Lennon4ever1 5 months ago
@songwriter4artists - What a stupid challenge? It goes along the line of go and tell it to the person that will hit you. It's hardly a challenge. Please don't forget the west went through it's violence many hundreds of years ago to be able to have the freedoms to speak our mind. It would of been just the same kind of challenge to do the same in England hundreds of years ago. What point do you think you was making?
TheSpankymonkey 4 months ago
@songwriter4artists Why don't you religious folks all move in together and let us know how that works? Fortunately we live in a secular country where religions can no longer kill those who do not share their delusions. I'm staying right here. Let the Islamists come here and tell me I have to accept Sharia law.
csnowutube 4 months ago
@songwriter4artists Is your message - Atheists think yourselves lucky that Christians in the West don't kill you - ?
If I do go to Saudi Arabia, will you accompany me and give a speech about how Islam is bullshit?
What has your challenge demonstrated? Think about it.
jerrygreg2 4 months ago
@songwriter4artists Its hilarious that you don't even realize what you are saying. All you have done is prove the point of all atheists that religion is immoral, violent and irrational...
Religion is Dangerous and you have just proved that point with your comment ...
OppressedAnarchist 2 months ago
@songwriter4artists Saudi Arabia is a prefect example of how relgion is a load of hate filled misogynistic bullshit and hypocrisy and how your God is a fucking ass.
On the college argument I agree with the video. Education is certainly going to shatter anyone's beliefi in an invisible sky daddy.
thetrueprometheus 1 month ago
@songwriter4artists
that only shows how religion is primitive and how does it encouraging violence.how those pople do something for their god that their god actually forbid to do.
JetAge96 1 month ago
@songwriter4artists Just because one religion suppresses people more than another, doesn't validify the latter one.
johnnyrotten43 1 month ago
Fundamentalists get really excited when people oppose them. Then again, they're practically asking for it to the point where I wonder if it gets them off.
Blarghonius 6 months ago
In all honesty, I look forward to the fall of faith. why presume when you can discover a greater truth? That's irrational.
WampaDubstep 6 months ago
Theists are funny when they are scared by reason.
number1sun 6 months ago
its so funny what he was saying that the christian nation made free speech, do u remember the inquisition?
MGsven 7 months ago
3:18 Did that Benny Hinn impersonator just threaten Sam Harris?
zEropoint68 7 months ago
I'll bet money that the first draft of Hitch's book was subtitled "How Religion Fucks Up Everything" and he was roundly rebuffed by his publisher.
zEropoint68 7 months ago
4:59. There are NO solid historical, scientific reasons for you to believe what you believe.
It is all blind faith and superstition.
HonestMan395 7 months ago
I heard they were starting to give Theology Degrees away free in cornflake packets.
I still think that that is overvaluing them.
I was in a toilet the other day and above the toilet roll was the sign:
Theology Degrees - Help yourself.
HonestMan395 7 months ago
athiesm is NOT an religion...
losing their faith while in college... ahh thats becasue knowledge/education is religions worst enemy. Once you give it even minimal thought, it becomes obvious that it is BS
Start teaching religion at a young age so they don't lose their faith when they get older... gee that kinda sounds like a scared cult telling its followers to brainwash early.
blahblahreadabook 7 months ago
2:40 atheists should just let everyone "live and let live"
I wish religous people would stay out of my life, my politcs, my childrens education, my societies attempts at progress through science, peoples basic human rights.
Next they say intolerant, and militant? what! umm no im afraid that is again a religous problem.
not doing there homework... studies have been done, and the results are in... athiest score substaintially higher on religous knowledge than the believers, iq tests to
blahblahreadabook 7 months ago
1:50 He laughs at the notion that its ridiculous to think that 80%-90% of the population believe in god and therefore to think that maybe they are wrong is foolish,umm almost 100% of the world thought that the earth was flat, imagine those stupid people that first said "no, i think its round" or the vast majority "knowing" that the earth was then center of the universe, crazy fools trying to say that the earth revolves areound the sun, how silly.
majority does not = truth
blahblahreadabook 7 months ago
PART 2
"A new brand of atheism" ... its very public, very in your face, promoted and supported by publishers... what the fuck?!? soo what has religion been been doing forever? Atheist are using shows popular with the young people... lol like its a conspiracy or something... Athiest will attack... never heard of that, but I get ripped by my own family for my views, people are literally killed today in 2011 for not believing, what are these nuts talking about!
blahblahreadabook 7 months ago
PART 1
I love this... because people are becoming more educated and rejecting the ridiculous notions put forth by the major religions and starting to publicly ask questions and stand up for their beliefs they are being labeled as some kind of 'extremists'. What are Hitchens & Dawkings doing that is any different than what the religious have been doing for 1000s of years.
blahblahreadabook 7 months ago 7
@blahblahreadabook Dawkins, Hitchens, et al are not asking people to believe everything they say, donate 10% of their gross income, and plead with invisible deities to avoid unimaginable torment. They are asking people to think about what they believe and why. I think this is sufficiently different to religions.
askegg 7 months ago 10
@askegg I think you misunderstood me... I was trying to say that religions have been spreading their message in a often violent/deadly way for 1000s of years, and if Dawkins & Hitchens (both who I support & enjoy) go on shows to talk about their beliefs then how can religion say this is inapporpriate or extreme when they have been doing it for a very long time, sorry if it didnt come across that way.
blahblahreadabook 7 months ago 5
@blahblahreadabook I figured that after your subsequent comments :)
askegg 7 months ago
@blahblahreadabook Im an atheist, and I for one am afraid that some atheists are starting to get just as dominant as the religious just to be. When I hear Richard Dawkins say: only the truth matters, he seems to forget that there is no single truth. So there has to be room for religious and non religious people alike. Since we cant agree on what is actually true, we should leave each other alone. So our laws should not be based on religion. You dont want abortion and euthanasia? Fine. See part 2
Ranokian 5 months ago
@Ranokian I think we need to be louder than religous believers. Someone has to be the voice of reason, and if we atheists just sit around and respectivly keep our mouths shut then the religous will forever dominate the conversation, the politcs, and the course/direction of our culture and society. So speak up loud and proud:)
In regards to your comments on truth, I respecfully disagree... there is a single truth, always, & if at first it appears not, we just haven't found the truth yet.
blahblahreadabook 5 months ago
@blahblahreadabook We need to be heard yes. Especially in countries like the US where religion is so dominant. And yeah, at times we need to be to loud!
And about the truth. I agree, we need to find it, where do we come from, why we are here, etc. But at the same time you have to realize that no matter what the truth is, people will always disagree. So its better to give each other some slack and respect each others belief and do not enforce it on one another.
Ranokian 5 months ago
@blahblahreadabook We agree on a lot. We need be to be loud at times, especially in countries where religion is as dominant as in the US.
And regarding the truth: of course, we need to find it.. where do we come from, etc. Valuable questions. But no matter what the truth is, people will disagree on it. And remember, the religious think they have the truth! So lets not be like them, lets not stuff our vision, true or not, trough each others throat. Otherwise we are not much better.
Ranokian 5 months ago
Playing the victim, that is what is this video is all about.. Kinda sad actually.
Ranokian 5 months ago
@blahblahreadabook Then make a law that clearly states that you it cant be forced upon you. But here is the catch.. The law should also make sure you are able to get it. Not as easy available as candy, but still. If you are not willing to make laws and moral codes that actually include some "room"for the non believers, you'll will always have to deal with those pesky atheists. And yes, some atheists are right in your face, but be aware that its mainly a reaction to the theistic dominance.
Ranokian 5 months ago
Were can I buy one of those atheist shirts?
kysmelmonge 7 months ago
OH NO! Logic & reason is starting to speak up against ignorance & hypocrisy!
ubersteigen 7 months ago
75% of college students come out atheist? I don't believe it but if that were true, I'd be ecstatic. However I know that is a lie, which is what christians typically do. Lets get this country out of the dark ages, can we please?
cutes22 7 months ago
Lol, this video is so much fail. Completely hypocritical and self defeating. The only hateful and militant ones are the Christian Fundamentalists.
KJRUSS0 7 months ago
I like how they see the answer as "teaching children at a young age".... Yes, that is the key, get them young when they are too uneducated to know better!
nutrino99 7 months ago
"despite the glaring flaws of atheism!" LOL good one, Atheism is neither a religion, an ideology a philosophy, a belief system a creed nor a world view. Atheism is the rejection of belief in the existence of any deities (gods) as opposed to theism, which in its most general form is the belief that at least one deity exists. Wonderful bias peace of reporting, I love the end, "the truth will prevail!" no shit Sherlock :)
TheATHEISTNOW 7 months ago
Hehe, even in America christianity is dying! : )
winterstellar 8 months ago
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Christians have forgotten how good it really is to have god love you.
For instance, incest is really really bad - unless it's our heavenly father doing it.
I for one always delight in having god sneak into my room late at night, to fondle me for a while and then shove his godly cock up my arse, and Jesus is our "man man" love child.
So we must remember at all times, just how much god really does love us.
Amen.
callmeshane303 8 months ago
I'm going to like this video because it makes me laugh.
GrandSupremeDaddyo 8 months ago
the professor of literature has such a tiny head i cannot help but laugh.
44jackhammer 9 months ago
nice editing . douche
BEARARMZ 9 months ago
That's because extremist Muslims are totally NUTZ
TheDano1947 9 months ago
And of course Christians never get up in your face and keep to themselves!!!
TheDano1947 9 months ago
Theists are the best at hypocrisy
misskitteh100 10 months ago
@ 2:31 the A stands for anti Christ not Atheist
jstunna4900 10 months ago
propaganda at it's most ignorant.
DiceWarwick 11 months ago
You know, when we Atheists get in your face, and vocal, and angry, we tell believers they're idiots and fucktards and launch verbal attacks.
When Theists get vocal, angry, and in your face, they kill you for being a heretic and launch crusades and jihad.
How dare ANY theist talk about "intolerance" and "militant"....
imperator332 11 months ago
Where's the actual video that doesnt have biased smart ass comments?
Nashhinton 11 months ago
You're an atheist because of poor character, lack of discernment, and poor decisions...no brains evident. To fall for the atheists lies shows a total
lack of intelligence.
bvandebunte 11 months ago
you're an atheist because of poor character, lack of discernment, and poor decisions...no brains evident.
bvandebunte 11 months ago
I cant believe this crap
I am atheist becuse i've developed critical thinking and im not naive
Religon came from writings used to give example of ideal human behavor but where taken to literaly and were combined into the holy testement which i view as a dr.sues book
And now the are scared that the will loose followers and thus looose money becuse god cost more than oil
GunloverClark 1 year ago
Okay, you asked who murdered in the name of atheism? Let's see: Joseph Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Marques de Sade, Po Plot, Mao, Marx, and there's others. And Marilyn Manson isn't a person I'd want my little children idolizing. Just saying. And atheism doesn't equal intelligence.
compsciguy 1 year ago
@compsciguy Shall we list all the people who killed in the name of god? Would it make any difference regarding the claims there is a god?
askegg 1 year ago
More Christian propaganda here. It sounds like it is aimed at children:
/watch?v=E8KoNBwIcvI&feature=feedf
Nice morals there, Christianity. Hypocrisy much?
EddieTheFishReturns 1 year ago
1:30 "So I know what an appeal to authority is!"
While the guy shouldn't say "I'm an expert," Atheists use the argument from authority ALL THE TIME. If you know how many times atheists say, and I paraphrase: "But the establishment can't be wrong," "But EVERY SCIENTIST concurs," and VERY rarely: "But they're the MAJORITY of SCIENTISTS," you would think twice before criticizing some religious person for using the same logical fallacy.
AthosAmo 1 year ago
I really wish I could see the fall of all religion in my life time but alas....I won't be able to...Maybe from heaven I will
FiremanLouvier 1 year ago
@FiremanLouvier
How will the fall of religion help matters? People will just fight over other things. It is human nature to have wars and be bad. With or without religion. Remember JOseph Stalin? He was an atheist and he murdered millions of innocent Believers.
compsciguy 1 year ago
one other thing what religion teaches really is a basic moral foundation not all christains are the same just like not all atheists are the same, if you can't belive that fine and i don't think that atheist go to hell i think you go if your a bad person and i see alot of bad people everyday, and if you really want to solve problem start from the real source i find people with justifie their actions with what they belive science or religion, to wipe out religion won't stop bad people.
POOLBOYROCKSTAR 1 year ago
@POOLBOYROCKSTAR "I don't think that atheist go to hell i think you go if your a bad person"
It's does not matter what you think - it's what Jesus says.
".. start from the real source..."
I agree, let's concentrate on what's real before inventing things to worry about.
" find people with justifie their actions with what they belive science or religion, to wipe out religion won't stop bad people."
Who said all evil came from religion? That's absurd.
askegg 1 year ago
It's does not matter what you think - it's what Jesus says
thats religion and the bible talking not jesus
start from the real source, what mean is find the real reason why people do bad things
Who said all evil came from religion? That's absurd.
hey i agree it's human nature so by that how is atheisim going to save the world.
when it comes down to it you can only call me stupid, you have not see what i have seen. there is science in all things even god, it just can't be understood by humans
POOLBOYROCKSTAR 1 year ago
@askegg
"Who said all evil came from religion? " The New Atheists, that's who. They think that religion is the root of all evil.
compsciguy 1 year ago
@compsciguy That's absurd. Nothing can be said to be "the root" of anything.
askegg 1 year ago
you know what? i'm not a atheist or religous but even i can see that atheism can be just as dangerous racist and violent as radical extremist religion, look at the world rapist serial killers snuff films and the list goes on wars are because of power and politics name just one war that did not not have a political agenda behind it. you can't even of you don't want to admit it us humans have been trying to kill each other off from the beging of time and we now have the tools to finish the job
POOLBOYROCKSTAR 1 year ago
@POOLBOYROCKSTAR How does disbelieving ANY notion drive you to an action?
askegg 1 year ago
well i'll say it i do belive in god my view are very much christian comming from a anti-religous background i don't have a religion. but to answer your question i don't belive in ignorance or hate and what these men Richard Dawkins, Bill Maher ect. see the really promoting hate and to mock any one that is religous that not much better than extreme christianity, i belive in peace and their are too many ist in the world racist, femmist, socialist, atheist, the only ist their should be is humanist.
POOLBOYROCKSTAR 1 year ago
@POOLBOYROCKSTAR Disbelief is not hate. Telling people their souls will burn in eternal flames if they don't believe what you do is. Forcing people to pray to their invisible friend is silly. Asking people to forgo evidence and rational thinking in place of faith and feelings is ridiculous.
askegg 1 year ago
never said that disbelief was hate and you do have the right to say what you want but you don't have the right to single people out and to mock them thats hate, if people can't show respect in what their talking and how then those people shoud not talk at all. have peaceful debates like Greg Graffin not angry people like Richard Dawkinks.if people don't want to undersatnd you they won't but if they do then they will, and i'm not saying forgo rational thinking but rational thinking is not reality
POOLBOYROCKSTAR 1 year ago
@POOLBOYROCKSTAR "...but you don't have the right to single people out and to mock them thats hate..."
No, that's free speech.
"...not angry people like Richard Dawkinks."
I have never seen Dawkins angry. Where do get this junk?
askegg 1 year ago
it's never right to single people out and richard dawkins is so angry even i can tell that he loses his shit in alot of videos i have seen, richard dawkins hates religion as i think you do too it makes you angry so because of that he can never have a objective look too emotional, to say religous people are stupid and judging them acourding to what their belifes are that is hate. it even sound alot like racism hateing black people beacuse of the black criminals thats a streriotype
POOLBOYROCKSTAR 1 year ago
@POOLBOYROCKSTAR Is it right to single out Osama Bin Laden? I also dislike religion because of what it makes people think is moral, and as a consequence how they behave. None of it is rooted in rational reality - it's all hocus pocus rubbish. The sooner people realise that, the better.
askegg 1 year ago
Osama Bin Ladin is a murderer regardless of what he belives he must be stoped but not because of what he belives but because he is a murderer, those people are not thinking right because they have been programed to do horrible shit. if i was a atheist and still wanted to kill to kill alot of people i could still do it, in a world where religion doesn't exist i would have to use science. human being can rationalize any thing to themselves if they want to atheist or religious. can do this forever
POOLBOYROCKSTAR 1 year ago
@POOLBOYROCKSTAR "if i was a atheist and still wanted to kill to kill alot of people i could still do it,"
Really? The only thing stopping you from killing people is the threat of eternal torture? You are already immoral.
"..human being can rationalize any thing to themselves if they want.."
No society was ever harmed by being "too rational".
askegg 1 year ago
i said if i wanted to kill someone anyone has the potential to be killers pick a phycology book , even you have that killer instinct just go visit a jail and tell that you find i work in prison so know what human nature is. and look up the word Rationalize because right now your acting irational by not realizing that human nature is sick right to the core, do i have to tell you about the atheist felons i have come across that have done horrible things. atheism just as bad as religion
POOLBOYROCKSTAR 1 year ago
@POOLBOYROCKSTAR "atheism just as bad as religion"
Then what good is religion?
askegg 1 year ago
i don't know the answer to that question i'd like to find the answers, all i can say is that my views are very much christian but that doesn't mean that i belive in christianity. i'm not saying that science can't explain things but that it can explain everything but thats doesn't say that there is no god no, he the one that makes it all happen. i know that there is what we think is the real world and then there's reality they exist outside of each other, your still worth something regardless
POOLBOYROCKSTAR 1 year ago
@POOLBOYROCKSTAR "... he (god) the one that makes it all happen"
That is a claim you need to supply evidence for if you want people to believe you.
askegg 1 year ago
@askegg
Religion keeps ppl in line, gives hope and support, and provides a meaning and spiritual guidance in one's life. Atheism can't do none of that. Also, religion gives to charites and helps out in disaster zones.
compsciguy 1 year ago
@compsciguy Just because something gives people hope does not make it true. Also, there are many great secular charities: Doctors without borders and the Red Cross to name two.
askegg 1 year ago
@askegg
If religion is all rubbish, that what IS reality. And you better provide UNBIASED objective evidence for your answer, other wise I'm not buying it.
compsciguy 1 year ago
@compsciguy Reality is what we all share. It is what we can demonstrate to each other as being true.
askegg 1 year ago
@askegg
Free speech? So if I go into a church and yell "I'm gonna kill every one of you stupid delusional Xians in the name of atheism" I should not get arrested? Free speech, after all?
compsciguy 1 year ago
@askegg
Disbelieve is not hate? Then what do you call the atheists who hate Xians? Joseph Stalin? Hitler? Marques de Sade? Po Plot? Mao? Marilyn Manson? ALL atheists, all so full of evil and hate.
compsciguy 1 year ago
@compsciguy Have you read the works of Martin Luther? Do you know how much he hated the Jews? Can you draw the straight line to the Catholic Church and their persecution of the Jews for centuries? They even held them in ghettos up until the late 1800's. Can you see where Hitler (who often stated he was a Catholic doing God's work) got his ideas?
Atheists are full of hate? Have a closer look at those who walk with your god.
askegg 1 year ago
I see this as the beginning of faith! Faith has just begun in the grand scheme of things!! I try to stay positive but not in a denial sort of way which is inappropriate always. If people say something to me that is slanderous or violent, l try let it roll off my back. They may be very very emotionally sunburned and hyper-sensitive, or else they may be projecting their traits onto decent folks. Let's try be meek anyway (not weak mind you), for blessed they are. I think faith is just beginning!
peacewalker7 1 year ago
you still get comments on this A, excellent, it is still very good material.
TheLittleDonkey 1 year ago
These atheists! There are saying things that are forbidden! Not only that, fate is so fragile and it cannot support facts and logic. This makes Jesus cry!
tubetib 1 year ago
In minute 3:05 - 3:50, Zacharias states that Sam Harris lumps Christianity with Islam. Either Zacharias is a liar or he hasn't read Harris' "End of Faith" or his numerous articles. Harris, as well as Dawkins and Hitchens, have repeatedly made the distinction between Christianity and Islam, stating that Christianity is far more civil, due to the secularization of the west and the enlightenment, than Islam is, and they admonish all secularists not to treat them the same. Zacharias is dishonest.
alphacause 1 year ago
So the central point of this segment was that Christians are scared that atheism and general religious skepticism is migrating from the esoteric realm of academia, where only highly specialized people talk about it, into the general public in a manner that the general public can understand? Why be so worried, if your beliefs are so true and defensible? The truth is that these Christians know that their beliefs may not be true, and aren't really defensible.
alphacause 1 year ago
@alphacause your so right. they are scared because they are going to be losing there free money. so sad but true.
yallfunnybunnies 1 year ago
I always have & will forever DENY THE HOLY SPIRIT. X)
Gahuki44 1 year ago
Hm...should I argue? Nah, this is just an atheist nest; they'll drone me out with buzzing and I'll just get stung...
(Hint to other theists that may choose to argue)
MegaRockMan1 1 year ago
When it's believers criticizing atheists, it's teaching a moral standard. When it's atheists voicing out their opinion about fucked up religions, it's an insult.
Cry me a river, please. Fucking hypocrites. And they dare calling us intolerant? Wtf... This is precisely why people are leaving religions. The level of blatant self-righteousness and douchebagness (sic???) is fucking amazing.
hellhammerz666 1 year ago 6
@hellhammerz666 oh, hellhammer, since u glorify hell, without knowing it, you believe in God...Since God created heaven and hell.....Religion doesn't get u saved, and Jesus called the 'religious leaders' of His time, 'blind guides and hypocrites'....Its not about saying 'hail mary a hundred times or not eating fish on fridays...Believing Jesus dies for your sins is what gets you saved, and muslims don't believe this, and think anyone that disagrees should be killed--kinda sounds like liberals..
76reliant 10 months ago
@hellhammerz666 oh, hellhammer, since u glorify hell, without knowing it, you believe in God...Since God created heaven and hell.....Religion doesn't get u saved, and Jesus called the 'religious leaders' of His time, 'blind guides and hypocrites'....Its not about saying 'hail mary a hundred times or not eating fish on fridays...Believing Jesus died for your sins is what gets you saved, and muslims don't believe this, and thinks anyone that disagrees should be killed--kinda sounds like liberals..
76reliant 10 months ago
@76reliant Don't mind my nick. It only refers to my musical taste. I know it's tempting, but try to not build up strawman arguments against an atheist with something as trivial as a screen name. In the end, you're simply ignoring an argument against your cohersive religion, just repeating over and over the same bullshit that's been fed to you to get you in this claptrap in the first place. In the real world, there's no such transgression that requires a saviour. You've been scammed.
hellhammerz666 10 months ago
@76reliant Another funny coincidence, even though kinda off topic, but very consistent through the hypochristian mindset programming is the notion that atheism and liberalism are somehow the same. Breaking news, they are not, although it certainly has more affinity than conservatism, practical reality tells us everyone has relative stances in regards to these 2 ideological tendencies. Basically, for some stuff we tend to be liberal, and for other stuff we tend to be conservative.
hellhammerz666 10 months ago
@hellhammerz666 If you haven't noticed, most athiests are liberal democrats..Many of the hollywood 'stars' and movie producers ect are atheists....This is because they have left moral laws, which are God based....Liberals believe in removing God, pro murder/abortion(even the partial birth abortion), protecting pedaphilacs, rapists, murderers, ect..This is because you actually 'believe' that psychology will somehow fix their understanding...This is a typical liberal/atheist....
76reliant 10 months ago
@76reliant So what? A lot of criminals are christians by jail statistic. A lot of crazy fundamentalists are christians. That doesn't mean anything, except that some christians are part of those groups. In reality, your imaginary friend isn't required to be a decent person. I myself am a living proof of it. You claim atheists leave morality behind and other nonsense your pastors may have fed you, yet i've never raped a woman, murdered anyone or stolen shit.
hellhammerz666 10 months ago
@76reliant Wanna twist words around to suit your stupid conservative hypochristian macho white male agenda? At least understand what conditions make abortion a viable option. Would you be fine with a woman being forced to have a baby from a rapist just because you believe a fucking egg to be a fully formed human being? When you get raped and get forced to do so, only then you have a voice in that desition, otherwise, shut the fuck up and save your bigoted opinions to yourself.
hellhammerz666 10 months ago
@76reliant And no, i don't believe psychology would fix a pedophile. If it depended on me, those fuckers would deserve death penalty, but i guess that would violate the "sanctity of life" your imaginary friend gave us humans, right? I'm an atheist, yet i hate many aspects of liberal ideology. Your argument is rendered invalid.
hellhammerz666 10 months ago
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@76reliant If you haven't noticed, most religious nuts are conservative republicans. Many of the rural country 'bumpkins' and uneducated ect are christians. This is because they have left moral laws, which are common sense based. christians believe in forcing God, pro murder/deathpenatly(even stoning), protecting pedophiles, rapists, murderers, ect. This is because you actually 'believe' that psychology will somehow fix their understanding. This is a typical conservative/christian.
Arsinek1 9 months ago
What a bunch of morons. Of course, when you can't comment freely on it, that must mean that they're so certain of their ideas being correct, right? Fearing those who question you is a sign of confidence, right?......
zetanato 1 year ago
BWA HA HA HA HA!!!! We're coming after your kids and we're going to turn them gay and vote for Democrats!!!!!!!!! BWA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheIntolerantAtheist 1 year ago
Mmm-mmm, I love me some Four Horsemen.
And I love-love-love the sense of wonder and amazement that comes with being an atheist.
hobobuckettre69 1 year ago
Your pissed off that Atheists are voicing their opinion? What the fuck have you guys been doing for the past thousands of years!? Christians have done so many horrible things in the past hundreds of years, they're even going today! They aren't as brutal, but they are still here! Only now are Atheists accepted into society, and even then they're still being discriminated.
darkmachete 1 year ago
@darkmachete what makes there actions horrible?
Courteousness 9 months ago
@Courteousness The selling of indulgences, the burning of people perceived to be witches, the molestation of young boys, the prevention of human science from advancing, they condoned slavery, Racism and the KKK, the pope banning condoms in Africa spreading more of the HIV virus, misogyny, Tomas de Torquemada, not to mention, god has killed more people than Satan. Do I need to continue? Or is that proof enough that Christianity is more evil than good?
darkmachete 9 months ago
@darkmachete before we go any further, can you prove to me why those things are wrong?
Courteousness 9 months ago
@Courteousness You're obviously trying to be funny, and it's not working. You know those things are bad, and you're making yourself look like an ass by even joking that those things are good. So I'm not gonna comment anymore because it's pointless to talk to someone so ignorant such as yourself. I hope you'll become more mature in the future.
darkmachete 9 months ago
@darkmachete you state your belief when you can present nothing for it, It's called a delusion. If I wanted to kill you, what on earth can claim it's wrong, the government? Second question afterwords is "Why is the Government correct?"
Courteousness 9 months ago
@Courteousness My evidence is that it upsets people, it's called human instinct. When someone dies, people become upset. The government is not correct all the time, but it's the closest thing we have to order in the world. We gotta appreciate what we do have. It's okay to be a little nihilist about things, but most people consider all the things I listed as bad, which is why most perceive it as bad. Who's to say what's good and bad? Answer: The majority of the people.
darkmachete 9 months ago
@darkmachete The majority of those events were contacted by people who believe it to be "Good", my point is prove to me at that time the actions were wrong, if we have no purpose to follow. The majority of the world eats cats and Dogs, the other half dislikes that and wishing it to be band, which is right? If I was the only person left on earth, what makes killing you? A "Advanced monkey"
mike444170 9 months ago
@mike444170 It's wrong at that time because IT KILLED PEOPLE! Do you fucking get that? Killing people is BAD! What makes it bad? People get SAD! We do have a purpose, to learn as much as we can and to do as much as much good as we can in the short amount of time we have together on Earth. Religion prevents learning, and it kills people (9/11 for example). End of discussion. You don't like it? Then go ahead and comment me back saying so. But then go do something helpful instead of youtubing. :)
darkmachete 9 months ago
@darkmachete Why shouldn't I make people sad? Am I going to go to hell or something for killing people? What the hell should anyone care? After the planet ends, we turn into nothing, which shows the purpose of out existence means nothing, we're just animals wondering around a unless universe. That's what Atheism has told me
mike444170 9 months ago
@mike444170
If you have evidence that there actually is a hell and that people are likely to go there then you would be obligated to tell as many people you could by any any means you could how to avoid hell.
The problem is you have no evidence. All you have is an ancient mythology that can only be accepted by those who are will to compromise their reason. When you say things that scare people into believing and doing things they ordinarily wouldn't believe or do that's terrorism.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy You've taken the wrong aspect of belief, I'm talking to you using a computer, I believe it was created by design, when I see planets in space which are millions of times more complex I believe it was created by design, the bible clearly states "if you want evidence of God, look at the skies". Now accepting a deity, I believe the morality by this deity is simply placed consequence of Heaven and Hell. It's not because I'm scared, it's because I use reason.
Courteousness 9 months ago
@Courteousness
Hell a place where people go after they die to suffer physical torture for eternity because of the their deficiencies base on some combination of virtue and faith depending on who you ask. That sounds reasonable to you?
Basing your life on ideas that you have no evidence for and no way of confirming sounds reasonable to you?
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy No, you've misunderstood again, I have no evidence for Hell, though I have no evidence against hell, again biblical meaning is "Faith", if everyone knew God existed then there wouldn't be a struggle in life, we would have to accept God, which means the ability to choose is removed
Courteousness 9 months ago
@Courteousness
Let me get this straight you have no evidence of hell yet you order you life around it and warn me to do the same. That sir, (I presume sir) is irrational.
So even though the Bible is a book that tells how God showed himself to people if he showed himself to us now that would take away our free will.
Excuse me if I laugh out loud.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy No, I've stated the meaning of the bible, to some point is belief. Reason, I just said, if there isn't a doubt left to believe, then we wouldn't have free will, even the disciples of Christ doubted Christ, if you believe the bible isn't about faith, then I'm willing to hear your answer, though I believe Hell in some way, is like God, you can't be absolutely sure about hell, though you can't be absolutely sure I'm not an Alien either
Courteousness 9 months ago
@Courteousness
We know how computers are made, there made by people. We don't know everything about how the universe was made. One thing we do know is that people didn't make the universe. But that doesn't mean that a god did it either. Once you say "god did it" then you have a logical burden to tell which god out of the many thousands of gods named by humans did it and how you know that god did it rather than the god next door. Theist have never met that burden without appealing to t. Bible.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy I haven't claimed God created it, I've just seen the reasons for and against and I believe it's reasonable to accept a creator. I can always turn the table, "I'm not claiming there's a God, Just prove to me there isn't? Until then I'll accept there is" You have as much burden of proof as me.
Courteousness 9 months ago
@Courteousness There are many ideas that can not be proven false that are not worthy of belief. You can not prove that there isn't a tea pot orbiting the earth. But that doesn't mean it reasonable to believe that is a tea pot orbiting the earth.
If the best argument you have is that I can't prove you wrong, then you have a very weak argument indeed, given that you are claiming that Jesus is King of King and Lord of Lords. Now if you wish to back off the claims then you wouldn't need evidence.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy First of all, you keep asking me for evidence, I'd like to ask you what kinda of evidence do you wish to see? Also I'll ask you what is evidence? Second of all, I've used reason to justify my answers in my view, I'm not claiming there isn't a tea pot, though when there's 50 reasons to believe in a tea pot, and only 10 to believe there isn't, I'd just the teapot, with reason.
Courteousness 9 months ago
@Courteousness
You were telling me that I ought to believe in Jesus or I would go to hell.
I asked you for evidence of hell and you tell me you have none.
Unless and until you have reasons back up by evidence for asking people to believe as you do you should desist from doing so, otherwise all you are doing is deceiving the feeble minded, including yourself.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy Not only do you have issues reading what I've claimed, though you're not debating on the same levle. I haven't claimed if you don't believe in Jesus, You'll go to hell, since you keep talking about proof why don't you prove what you claim I've said? not only are you putting words into my mouth, they seem quite unintelligent as if you have deformities of reading.
Courteousness 9 months ago
@Courteousness
Here:
@SamWiseGingy You have to provide reasons and evidence to show my belief is based on afterlife, the majority of people today who see faith and reason beyond afterlife references. If you believe in chance and taking a decision belief in
"God not only is defense of your death if the existence of Heaven is Correct, it can be prevention of the dreaded Hell." So you're belief not only causes a huge hole of Risk, I see no benifit in accepting it
Courteousness 3 days ago
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy So you're stating, it's better to die without faith, then with faith?
mike444170 9 months ago
@mike444170 I guess one of you is a sock puppet. But it really doesn't matter.
When you die your body feeds worms. There is no evidence that any thing of you goes any where. No heaven. No hell. All that will survive you are memories that you made with the living and accomplishments. Those are the facts that have the support of reason. Everything else is religion and/or superstition.
The life you have is the only life you know you will get, so use it well.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy What if you're buried in a casket? Are the worms going to eat though a casket? What if you die in the sand? And there words that live in sand? Want if you get incriminated when you die? are the worms going to eat your ashes? Why do you need evidence? Isn't hell suppose to be something by death? So there is no evidence? Does that mean it isn't real? there's no evidence for Gold on Pluto, doesn't mean it isn't there.
mike444170 9 months ago
@mike444170
"Feeding worms" is just a euphemism for decaying and returning to dust.
You and your friend Courteousness are telling me if I don't get my mind right I'm bound for hell without providing any credible evidence that there is a hell. When you do that you are terrorists. You are attempting to sow fear in the minds of men so that you can have power over them. I presume that is what others have done to you.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy we're the same person, I'm not claiming you go to hell, why on earth would I Care if you go to hell? Do you think I'm arguing with fear to convince you my beliefs? I'm in a very non-religious family, Science has led me to believe in God, I'm going to study theology, I've listened to 200 hours of university lectures. I also happen to be 16
mike444170 9 months ago
@mike444170
You said: "we're the same person"
Does that mean that you and Courteousness are the same person using two accounts?
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy Yeah?
mike444170 9 months ago
@mike444170
Foul! Using sock puppets is deceptive. If you have good arguments you don't need to be deceptive.
Grow up.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy I'm being deceptive now? Interesting, So I must be evil now? It's a shame nature created evil things, go blame your evolution
mike444170 9 months ago
@mike444170
You said: " Now accepting a deity, I believe the morality by this deity is simply placed consequence of Heaven and Hell. It's not because I'm scared, it's because I use reason."
Now dude you can't mention hell if you don't want to be accused of scaring people. I know what you Christians think hell and why you think people go there.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy I'm sorry? Do you study theology? I'd place thousands of dollars on the bet I know Christianity more then you, it's history, it's founders, it's changes. Again, Why should I care if you go to hell?
mike444170 9 months ago
@mike444170
Look Mike or whoever you are, if you don't who Thomas Paine is or his place in history and theology then you obviously have serious gaps in you knowledge of history.
In any case I have no interest in a personal argument with you.
As to the source of evil, evolution provides much more insights into human behavior than the idea that we inherited sin from Adam and Eve.
And yes it was deceptive of you to be two faced and then say "I didn't say."
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy If I start quoting 200 year old people, there would be a hell lot more on my side then yours. Evolution shows behavior, not evil, we're simply a form of a primate, are you telling me animals can be evil?
mike444170 9 months ago
@mike444170 Sure people 200 years ago were a lot less reasonable then they are now especially on the topic of religion.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@mike444170
You don't have thousands of dollars.
There is no hell for me to go to. There is no heaven for you to go to. So to make decisions based on the "afterlife" is unreasonable.
SamWiseGingy 9 months ago
@SamWiseGingy how do you know how much money I have? you seem to make judgmental decisions, I don't base my belief on afterlife, the existence of heaven doesn't interest me, the existence of God does.
mike444170 9 months ago