Sorry, why do people need to learn legacy technology in order to be "good drivers" today? That's like saying we should all get ourselves a Model T in order to drive well on roads today.
May I suggest a new Nobel peace prize category.... Awarded for services to wagon drivin... The guy who invented split gears , range changers & syncromesh.
Not only is this cool,I took my Class A in 1978.72 R-model Mack,Triplex Trans,passed by 2 points.My opinion,every truck driver who wants to drive,they should get good enough with a twin stick.Then train to hit the hiway.Otherwise,anyone can be taught with a modern truck.P.S.try it with no engine brake.P.S.S.and no 4 lane,no huge truck stops etc.P.S.S.T
Takes some co-ordination, but not as bad as it looks. After a while, it's kinda like riding a bicycle. Just got to really pay attention on a hard pull uphill - easy to miss a shift and come right to a stop!
Damn this looks so hard. Just to think that it took me a while to get use to shifting an Eaton Fuller 10 speed! I don't think I could do twin sticks. LOL
Look ma, no automatics! (That also should apple to anyone still driving old GM buses, and if I bought an RV motorhome, I would RIP out any automatic, JUNK it, (hey, I would have bought it in this scenario) and get something like a manual!)
Why did trucks from the late fifties on still have these twin sticks? The modern style 13 speed with THREE position splitter switch was around back in the early or mid fifties. Why would anyone want the fuck around shifting both sticks at once sticking your hand through the steering wheel and all that shit when the 13 speed single shift lever was around for people to spec their truck with. I know these twin sticks had 15 plus gears but I don't know what if anything you can't get done with 13.
i think i'd almost pay to learn how to drive twin stick ! i've never had the pleasure ? or is it misfortune? lol. anyway, awesome video, i think i got a little chubbie ! thanx for sharing this with us !
just wow. Watching these guys swapping cogs with them old knuckle grazzers really is impressive. Compared to the new european automatic bullshit we get here truckings like a hobby now. That was an occupation hats off to the old boys for there great work
This is fucking awesome! This is when a truck driver wasn't some pansy-ass towel-head turd like you see today. This is someone that had some enormous fucking balls man. I totally respect this...and admire it. I use to be a diesel mechanic back in the 70's....then a life change, now I'm a non-linear optical physicist. It's damn good stuff, but I'll always respect the guy that beats the pavement and goes by some ethics too!
@windjammer226 I know I haven't driven as long as some but I learned on a 5x4 without power steering on my first job eleven years ago, New drivers today have no idea how to really drive unless they have been behind wheel of one like that. It requires skill and strength for turning and shifting at the same time and really making your turns right the first time, People who have had this experience know what I mean.
@goatman5 Two sticks because it's effectively 2 gearboxes; you have a 4, 5 or maybe 6 speed main box, then the output of that goes to a 2, 3 or 4 speed auxiliary box, so it effectively multiplies the gears. Big diesels tend to have narrow power bands, so you need all those gears to keep the engine in the power band.
Many of the more modern trucks still use loads of gears, but they have pneumatic shift mechanisms, so they can use switches on the stick to get the extra gears.
@Gordanovich02 oh, gotcha. yeah ive seen those ones with the switches and i knew how they worked, ive just never seen the double sticks, but i get the idea behind it, and its a pretty smart system for getting the most power when your hauling stuff.
@kuhndog52 ya got that right! I love a set of sticks. It's been at least 13yrs since I've drove a set of stick, & I've drove several combinations. I miss sticks.
@bionictrucker1 yeah and very few of these are left if any. when i get my 80s suburban i want a 353 detroit put in it like the chevy k pickup you see in there. these are trucks only real men can drive.
@kuhndog52 Yeah, I've noticed that Chevy pickup there, that was pretty cool. Ya gonna put a "screamin gimmy" in yer Subby? Ya gonna twin stick it? I'ld like to see that when ya get er all fixed up. My uncle put in a dodge inline 12 valve cummins in his chevy duelly pickup years ago & a co-worker of mine had did the same thing to his chevy duelly as well.
@bionictrucker1 i need money first and a job i have 1100 right now but im only in high school but i live in Michigan where theres a decant $800 sub wagon parked on every other street i also live in Dearborn which neighbors the detroit diesel plant. i also love Cummins. the 5.9 was the best light duty diesel of its time and possibly the most successful ever hands down.
@kuhndog52 I've got a 2001 Dodge 4x4 w/ the 5.9 24 vavle Cummins. Unfortinatly, it has the 5spd auto. I'm not disapointed in it, I just wished it had the 5 speed standard. It's been a good pickup truck to me. I purchased it back in 2004 & finally got it paid off of July of this year! A trucker buddy of mine has bought himself the Freightliner Classic XL with the Condo sleeper/cab configuration this past spring & it has a 10spd tranny & a Detroit under the hood. Not sure of what the horspower is
I drove a Pete with a 5 and 4, a million years ago. God, this video drought back memories. And a P model Mack with 7 and 4, now that got interesting at times. The last one I ran was a K-W W900B , 425 Cat w /air to air after cooling and twin turbo's,13 double over and 3.55 final drives, 3 of them. Heavy hauler for 130,000 plus nominal gross. Hills meant nothing to that Cat and it was a dream to shift. Put a million and a half on that truck with never had a problem with it. Never once failed me.
Awesome, brings back alot of memories riding with my dad as a kid. Thanks for this vid. I have a "brownie" box that we're going to put in a 96 Dodge with a 5 speed and 5.9 Cummins.
@Thrawnization I presume that your plans call for a Spicer 6041 or AMO600-4 or equivalent, which use one countershaft directly below the output shaft (rather than two flanking it as in the AMO1000-4C)?
Whats the name of the song i hear on this vid. sounds like truck drivin music to me, and well i am a driver, not on a a truck but i am a driver. so it fits me too, if i may say so as a forkliftdriver whahahahaha. but serious, who sings this song. sounds good YIIHAAAAAAA
ANd unfortauntely Jerry Reed, instead of being known for "Amos Moses" and "When you're hot" is known for the crappy "Scooby Doo" songs. Dumb question-would the blond preppy in Scooby';s Mystery Machine be able to SHIFT THIS? Or ANYTHING? hee hee. Good video.
This right here sure brings back the memories of a "set of sticks"! I've ran several 5 & 4's, a 13 spd with 4spd browy, 15 spd w/a 4 spd browny, & a 6 spd automatic w/a 4 spd browny, regular automatics, I've also ran 5 & 6 spds w/ 2 spd rearends. Now I just run 10's,13's, 15's, 15 overs, 18's! I hate automatics cuz I like to be in command of the shifting, not the truck in command!
Oops! My bad. It was a 10spd main with a 4spd brownie! I hit the wrong # there. I gotta little excited 'bout recolecting the good ole days of "twin stickin"! Now for the "6spd auto & 4spd browny"! The 6spd auto ran it's course with 4spd browny starting off in deep reduction range. After the auto trans. ran it's course, I took the browny from deep to low, low to direct, & direct to over! Didn't worry bout the other ranges, just start in D/drive. The setup was in tractor/trailer belly dump combo!
@bionictrucker1 i agree, I hate automatics!!! any truck driver out there drivin automatics aren't real drivers. you go grab your ores and row through some gears, then you're a real truck driver. i'm only 24 but i've learned on the old stuff!! nothin like a '79 Kenworth with armstrong steering and screamin demon, or an old dm mack w/ a duplex!!! Power to the twin sticks, old trucks, and the drivers who drive them!!!!
@eriksf250 Ya got that right driver. Glad to seeya love them old school rigs. I love em & they're definately a dying breed as well as us old schoolers, 10-4?
@bionictrucker1 thats a big 10-4! I drive an '86 Mack DM rolloff truck daily. She's got the old 285 and duplex. She might be old and slow but once that turbo kicks in, she'll pull hard. I sometimes drive an '82 Autocar rolloff, she's got a 300 big cam and an 8LL u-pattern. She's the Megan Fox of rolloff trucks around my area lol.
@eriksf250 Ya drivin an ole AutoCar as well? Freakin awsome! The Megan Fox of rolloffs, huh? That's cool! Ole Megan is one pretty gal---10-4? Ya got any pics of the AutoCar to share? That's an ole classic old schooler as well. Ya ever seen Diamond Rios/Diamond T's or how bout Brockways or the ole Whites or White Freightliners or the old Dodge's or the needle nose Petes & KW's w/the butterfly hinge hoods?
@bionictrucker1 no pics of the Autocar yet, i want to get a good pic of her. yeah lol, Megan fox of rolloffs, ain't anything like her on the roads around here and that's a big 10-4 driver on that pretty gal. She's an old schooler. i've been around Diamond Reo's, Diamond T's, and my grandfather had a few Brockway Tractors and a dump truck. My old boss used to have an '74 Brockway dump truck i used to drive, miss it lots. i've seen alot of the old trucks. my grandfather use to have a H model Mack
@eriksf250 I sure do miss ALL of them there "Old School" rigs. Seein all these old trucks back when I was a youngin was just freakin awesome. Some times I'll see the ole 382 Cabover Petes & one in a while I'll still see a Kenworth K-100 cabover flattop sleeper or with the Kenworth Aerodyne. My dad drove the old B model Macks, single drive axles semis, tandom drives, I single driver with a tag axle. Keep er safe out there driver.
@bionictrucker1 i agree, I hate automatics!!! any truck driver out there drivin automatics aren't real drivers. you go grab your ores and row through some gears, then you're a real truck driver. i'm only 24 but i've learned on the old stuff!! nothin like a '79 Kenworth with armstrong steering and screamin demon, or an old dm mack w/ a duplex!!! Power to the twin sticks, old trucks, and the drivers who drive them!!!!
@2strokedetroit Hey there 2strokedetroit, how are ya? Thankya fer yers comment & question. The 6 spd auto & 4 spd brownie was pretty simple. Not as hard as one mite think. I was driving an old 74 kenworth draggin a belly dump behind me. The 6 spd auto main tranny ran thru its normal coarse on its own then I was able to run the 4 spd browny manually, all with no clutch involved mind ya! The 13spd was a 10spd with the 4spd brownie. I had hit the wrong # on the key board! Whatuhya learnin in?
The current gearboxes are only different from the triplex and quadraplex in that they do all that splitting with air solenoids and only the main gears are shifted manually if I understand correct.
Yep air cylinders do the aux shifting. A modern 18 speed is really a 5x4 but the shift pattern is quite different. Depending on the transmission the old twin sticks had a 4, 5 or 6 (rare) speed main and a 2, 3 or 4 speed auxiliary gear box.
Example- Mack 15 speed Triplex:
Main in 1st then shift the aux: lo-direct-high
quickly shift main to 2nd & pull aux back to lo and repeat.
Some gear boxes like the 13 speed mack required you to shift from 4-hi directly to 5-hi as you skipped 5th lo&direct
My grandfather used to drive trucks like this, I'm in a truck drivers school now, but I wish I could find someone to teach me how to do this, just to have that connection with the past. It was a pleasure to watch.
there was no need for it with a 2000+ ft-lb engine. those engines have the power (or "work" for the science geeks) enough for current gearboxes. the quadbox died the minute the turbocharger lived.
Wow!!! Although I'm not a truck driver I would like to know the gear shift pattern of an 18 spd twin stick. If anyone has any info about it I could get off the web please let met know.
If it weren't for truck drivers all are store shelves would be empty. Thank God for truck drivers!!!
It's like an eight speed [4 + range change] then turned into 16 with split, then a LO split on the left-in short,m like a nine speed [same pattern as five speed] split each way. A six speed with three rangers might be easier to descibre..LOL
think of twin sticks like a 13 or an 18 speed it allows you to split the gear instead of losing 5 to 600 RPM'S you only lose 2 to 300 makes for better hill climbing
the first stick shifts the main box like in a car and the second stick shist an auxillary box that allows the driver to select an extra range of gears between the gears in the main box
the only thing ive come close to running is international s2100 10wheeler dumptruck with a 5+2 and now i have to learn how my 1931 model aa ford is. a nonsynchro 4spd ought to be fun lol
No point or advantage, simply old technology. These days you get 1 shifter with 2 plastic buttons on it, that does what a Twin Stick does, except much easier to drive lol.
Spicers also could be one stick with three or four speed switches if not second stick
-example, from a book partly by Herbert Zim, best rememebered perhaps for his insighjtful insect books of yore, published in ealry 70s called simp,y Trucks
R 1 3 5 A C
LL 2 4 6 B D
28 fwd gears [only 24 main plus 4 underdrive] and 4 reverse in the illustrsation I saw but hell, any combo could be used. 5 and 4, sometimes with two speed swtich for differentials,etc. [20 or 40!]
The old diesel engines had about a 400 rpm powerband. The gaps in the trans are about 900 rpm. They used a 2nd trans to get the extra ratios to keep it in the power band.
So if you took it out of gear at 2100 rpm and went to the next gear you would drop down to 1200 rpm. Then If you downshift the auxillary trans 2 gears you will raise the rpm up 600 rpm's which puts you back in the powerband.
In addition in extreme cases you could also have a THIRD transmission, at the rear end, i.e., the solenoid or otherwise-switched ratio splitter. There were other combinations. [Three sticks, anyone? :)]
At least SEMI's have not been ALL touched [raped?] with autmoatics YET...they even did it to intoercity buses more than 40 years ago [even though it did not take off till about 25-35 at least for autos..]
Yeah so true, people these days are just to damn lazy to drive standard, but me a twin stick I wouldn't mine having, my uncle still has his old 74 Loadstar (theres a 1972 in this vid) with a 5 & 4 speed and he lets me try it and boy at first it was hard but ones I got the hang of it it's not all that bad, I still wouldn't go in hills with it though lol. Now that I got the hang of it I really would love to find a Twin Stick farm truck and buy it. Fun to drive.
That's really interesting to see and I'm sure it takes a lot of skill...the only thing I have driven which comes close is a 1970 International Loadstar where you had to double-clutch to shift.
If both boxes are non synchronous, how is it possible to shift without triple clutching or at least partial floating?
tnphysics 3 days ago
Back when trucking was more like a job! (not that it isn't hard today)
Nickster7ROR 4 days ago
what is the songs title
willcamp009 1 week ago
Sorry, why do people need to learn legacy technology in order to be "good drivers" today? That's like saying we should all get ourselves a Model T in order to drive well on roads today.
fcukfest 1 month ago
May I suggest a new Nobel peace prize category.... Awarded for services to wagon drivin... The guy who invented split gears , range changers & syncromesh.
oscarfish38 1 month ago
Not only is this cool,I took my Class A in 1978.72 R-model Mack,Triplex Trans,passed by 2 points.My opinion,every truck driver who wants to drive,they should get good enough with a twin stick.Then train to hit the hiway.Otherwise,anyone can be taught with a modern truck.P.S.try it with no engine brake.P.S.S.and no 4 lane,no huge truck stops etc.P.S.S.T
Oh,tha'ts just to get your attention.Peace.
MrLortab10 1 month ago
Good Girls go to Heaven Bad Girls go everywhere! call me 800-277-3825 I love a stick shift man... lol
escort800 3 months ago
Takes some co-ordination, but not as bad as it looks. After a while, it's kinda like riding a bicycle. Just got to really pay attention on a hard pull uphill - easy to miss a shift and come right to a stop!
LangmanSales 4 months ago
0:48 fuckin awesome. thats truckin right there.
Maudster69 4 months ago
Nicee video
guitarStern 4 months ago
I would not want to be in stop and go traffic around ATL in any of these. Hats off, salute, kudos, etc. to the men that have mastered these trucks!
DDeep1000 5 months ago
i may be 12 but i know how 2 drive a 5 gear stick shift i dont know how they memerize that shift patern
vixenthekitten 5 months ago
Damn this looks so hard. Just to think that it took me a while to get use to shifting an Eaton Fuller 10 speed! I don't think I could do twin sticks. LOL
DanW900 6 months ago
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blobby1972 6 months ago
These drivers even shake their hands twice when see each other :-)
Maxya1986 8 months ago 7
one of my earliest memories is going on a ride along with my lil bro's dad in a twin stick truck.... that shit had my eyes boggling to watch
antipryzm 9 months ago
Look ma, no automatics! (That also should apple to anyone still driving old GM buses, and if I bought an RV motorhome, I would RIP out any automatic, JUNK it, (hey, I would have bought it in this scenario) and get something like a manual!)
SteveCarras 9 months ago
Why did trucks from the late fifties on still have these twin sticks? The modern style 13 speed with THREE position splitter switch was around back in the early or mid fifties. Why would anyone want the fuck around shifting both sticks at once sticking your hand through the steering wheel and all that shit when the 13 speed single shift lever was around for people to spec their truck with. I know these twin sticks had 15 plus gears but I don't know what if anything you can't get done with 13.
traingp7 9 months ago
i think i'd almost pay to learn how to drive twin stick ! i've never had the pleasure ? or is it misfortune? lol. anyway, awesome video, i think i got a little chubbie ! thanx for sharing this with us !
shawn68able 10 months ago
just wow. Watching these guys swapping cogs with them old knuckle grazzers really is impressive. Compared to the new european automatic bullshit we get here truckings like a hobby now. That was an occupation hats off to the old boys for there great work
10-4
volvoknightoftheroad 10 months ago
Thumbs up big time!
sledheadchris 11 months ago
I absolutely love it! thanks for an awesome tribute to the true old school truckers!
TheTrkrsvoice 1 year ago
God I remember doing that. Good memories of the times, but I love my Eaton 13 speed.
gregdcross 1 year ago
Amazing to watch - WOW!!!
couragio235 1 year ago
how do you shift the double shifter i dont quite understand how
JohnDeere30201 1 year ago
HELL YEAH!!
This is fucking awesome! This is when a truck driver wasn't some pansy-ass towel-head turd like you see today. This is someone that had some enormous fucking balls man. I totally respect this...and admire it. I use to be a diesel mechanic back in the 70's....then a life change, now I'm a non-linear optical physicist. It's damn good stuff, but I'll always respect the guy that beats the pavement and goes by some ethics too!
This is TITS....thanks for the post!
originalfizixx 1 year ago 2
@originalfizixx
WITH you ALL the way..Original! I'd love to see a video of THREE stick shifts, maybe 5x5x4 aka 100 gears.
SteveCarras 1 year ago
@originalfizixx
This waqs when truckers actually CARED about their stuff.
SteveCarras 11 months ago
O.O
pwnrzero 1 year ago
I'd love ta learn that too thats a lost art right there
woody71130 1 year ago
Gad, and I;m struggling wiht one stick.
MegaBoxer77 1 year ago
@MegaBoxer77 thats not the only thing you're struggling with
woody71130 1 year ago
i remember when i first drove a 2 stick truck wow it was fun but hard it was CRAZY
dragata1 1 year ago
Tell me this ain't a skilled job. great stuff
mrspivvy 1 year ago
brings back memories,I learned on a 5by 4
windjammer226 1 year ago
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chevrolet402 1 year ago
@windjammer226 I know I haven't driven as long as some but I learned on a 5x4 without power steering on my first job eleven years ago, New drivers today have no idea how to really drive unless they have been behind wheel of one like that. It requires skill and strength for turning and shifting at the same time and really making your turns right the first time, People who have had this experience know what I mean.
chevrolet402 1 year ago
Ok, I know at least ONE of those are used for changing the gears, but what is the other one used for? Gear ranges, perhaps?
Slimer2x3 1 year ago
@Slimer2x3 From what I understood one changes front gears other back gears...but I may be wrong.
powerstuck 1 year ago
excuse me for my ignorance but what is the purpose of twin stick shifting? like why are there 2 sticks instead of one?
goatman5 1 year ago
@goatman5 Two sticks because it's effectively 2 gearboxes; you have a 4, 5 or maybe 6 speed main box, then the output of that goes to a 2, 3 or 4 speed auxiliary box, so it effectively multiplies the gears. Big diesels tend to have narrow power bands, so you need all those gears to keep the engine in the power band.
Many of the more modern trucks still use loads of gears, but they have pneumatic shift mechanisms, so they can use switches on the stick to get the extra gears.
Gordanovich02 1 year ago
@Gordanovich02 oh, gotcha. yeah ive seen those ones with the switches and i knew how they worked, ive just never seen the double sticks, but i get the idea behind it, and its a pretty smart system for getting the most power when your hauling stuff.
goatman5 1 year ago
real truck drivers
GreekOrc 1 year ago
полный пиздец!!!
mikhailzAMP 1 year ago
only few people in the world can drive dual sticks
kuhndog52 1 year ago
@kuhndog52 ya got that right! I love a set of sticks. It's been at least 13yrs since I've drove a set of stick, & I've drove several combinations. I miss sticks.
bionictrucker1 1 year ago
@bionictrucker1 yeah and very few of these are left if any. when i get my 80s suburban i want a 353 detroit put in it like the chevy k pickup you see in there. these are trucks only real men can drive.
kuhndog52 1 year ago
@kuhndog52 Yeah, I've noticed that Chevy pickup there, that was pretty cool. Ya gonna put a "screamin gimmy" in yer Subby? Ya gonna twin stick it? I'ld like to see that when ya get er all fixed up. My uncle put in a dodge inline 12 valve cummins in his chevy duelly pickup years ago & a co-worker of mine had did the same thing to his chevy duelly as well.
bionictrucker1 1 year ago
@bionictrucker1 i need money first and a job i have 1100 right now but im only in high school but i live in Michigan where theres a decant $800 sub wagon parked on every other street i also live in Dearborn which neighbors the detroit diesel plant. i also love Cummins. the 5.9 was the best light duty diesel of its time and possibly the most successful ever hands down.
kuhndog52 1 year ago
@kuhndog52 I've got a 2001 Dodge 4x4 w/ the 5.9 24 vavle Cummins. Unfortinatly, it has the 5spd auto. I'm not disapointed in it, I just wished it had the 5 speed standard. It's been a good pickup truck to me. I purchased it back in 2004 & finally got it paid off of July of this year! A trucker buddy of mine has bought himself the Freightliner Classic XL with the Condo sleeper/cab configuration this past spring & it has a 10spd tranny & a Detroit under the hood. Not sure of what the horspower is
bionictrucker1 1 year ago
@bionictrucker1 sweet!!!
kuhndog52 1 year ago
all i can say about them drivers is WOW!! i have awsome respect for them twin stickshift drivers.
caseytrt 1 year ago
I drove a Pete with a 5 and 4, a million years ago. God, this video drought back memories. And a P model Mack with 7 and 4, now that got interesting at times. The last one I ran was a K-W W900B , 425 Cat w /air to air after cooling and twin turbo's,13 double over and 3.55 final drives, 3 of them. Heavy hauler for 130,000 plus nominal gross. Hills meant nothing to that Cat and it was a dream to shift. Put a million and a half on that truck with never had a problem with it. Never once failed me.
Nicodemus98 1 year ago
Awesome, brings back alot of memories riding with my dad as a kid. Thanks for this vid. I have a "brownie" box that we're going to put in a 96 Dodge with a 5 speed and 5.9 Cummins.
Thrawnization 1 year ago
@Thrawnization I presume that your plans call for a Spicer 6041 or AMO600-4 or equivalent, which use one countershaft directly below the output shaft (rather than two flanking it as in the AMO1000-4C)?
bcschmerker 1 year ago
@bcschmerker Spicer 5831.
Thrawnization 1 year ago
@Thrawnization Reasonable choice, given that many transfer cases for 1-tons have gears consistent with the low-lows of 4-speed secondary 'boxes.
bcschmerker 1 year ago
Hey any videos on shifting 3 sticks or 3 speed rears?
smokin12345678 1 year ago
@smokin12345678
Hi smokin12345678,
check out my pickuptruck;at this:
Shifting-gears Holy Smokes
it has 4 shift towers & yes;they all work.
It has a 5x3x3,one shift tower does not have a knob on it at the time this video was taken. Thank You for your time. flatbedbenny777
flatbedbenny777 1 year ago
you can leave the keys in the ignition with these trucks....no grand theft would dare attempt to drive this off
smithyman33 1 year ago
poor guys. if they have to drive an automatic it must be torture
paintballgundown8 1 year ago
Great job putting this video together.
chevrolet402 1 year ago
every one of these guys would have been great bootleggers, and some probably were. ha ha.
My hat is off to these "kings of the road"
aknowneemus 1 year ago
a salute to all that can do this.
dirteeter32 1 year ago
@dirteeter32 Thankya. I used to run several different combos of "set of sticks". Sure miss it.
bionictrucker1 1 year ago
that female gear jammer in that ol pete... @.36sec gotta see her whole video
BrokenAxle401 1 year ago
Love the sound of that old International gasser rowing through those gears. Great tune too, long live Jerry Reed.
Rockord79 1 year ago
back when driving a truck was work
SuperChuck79 1 year ago
so all these shifts were done either between 5th 10th or 15th?
keeevan 1 year ago
damn u have be fast i could do it i am new school lol
gearjammer4181 1 year ago
萌え☆
NTC335 1 year ago
Whats the name of the song i hear on this vid. sounds like truck drivin music to me, and well i am a driver, not on a a truck but i am a driver. so it fits me too, if i may say so as a forkliftdriver whahahahaha. but serious, who sings this song. sounds good YIIHAAAAAAA
LeandroMuntendam 1 year ago
Jerry Reed - The Legend
IDIDieselJohn 1 year ago
@IDIDieselJohn the same song from the movie smokey and the bandit
MattytheDem 1 year ago
@IDIDieselJohn
ANd unfortauntely Jerry Reed, instead of being known for "Amos Moses" and "When you're hot" is known for the crappy "Scooby Doo" songs. Dumb question-would the blond preppy in Scooby';s Mystery Machine be able to SHIFT THIS? Or ANYTHING? hee hee. Good video.
SteveCarras 9 months ago
@LeandroMuntendam What have you never seen smokey and the bandit hahaha
RyanS6759 10 months ago
48 second........ SKILLS
britdemo 1 year ago
Kick ass Vid I Love my Twin stick
sweetpete84 1 year ago
love the sound of them old trucks.
normanc82 1 year ago
imagine putting a rookie truck driver from today in one of these rigs!
dannyW900 1 year ago
mighty fine shiftin
justinshell01 1 year ago
Thanks John!! Great job on vid Bro!!
twinstickpete 2 years ago
Let me try!
pwarren1010 2 years ago
once you get the hang of it it is not that hard to do in fact I like driving the trucks that i own that have 2 sticks
mackman989 2 years ago
People dont know that truck driving like that is an art. Noone knows what goes on in the cab as they drive there car by you, I hope I can learn that.
jkbennett85 2 years ago
Ya'll just shifted more gears in 2;34 than i have in the last 19 years !!!
instepfarms 2 years ago 2
if u can drive those, u can drive anything!
thedirtydime 2 years ago 19
@thedirtydime
I was once thinking if I could drive two sticks, then I noticed that I was driving tractor with duplex not splitter.
It has 1-2 3-4 5-7 6-8 pattern and it shifts better without clutch.
You have to be quick cause if you chance too slow you lose momentum and have to start again :/
It is´t too hard you just have to remember gear pattern.
felixchaus 9 months ago
Which channel is at 0:15?
024reredrum 2 years ago
This right here sure brings back the memories of a "set of sticks"! I've ran several 5 & 4's, a 13 spd with 4spd browy, 15 spd w/a 4 spd browny, & a 6 spd automatic w/a 4 spd browny, regular automatics, I've also ran 5 & 6 spds w/ 2 spd rearends. Now I just run 10's,13's, 15's, 15 overs, 18's! I hate automatics cuz I like to be in command of the shifting, not the truck in command!
bionictrucker1 2 years ago 3
My hat to you sir! Keep on Truckin'!!
IDIDieselJohn 2 years ago 4
Why thankya there, driver! Ya do the same as well & be safe out there! Are ya doin any of the "twins" in any of the videos there?
bionictrucker1 2 years ago
Whoa boy, a ,lot of different combos.
"5x4"
A twenty speed.
13x4?
That's 52 [and technically, the 13 itself is 4xx3[actually 2 range sbut top split] = 1 [low low] then x 4=52
6 speed auotmatic with FOUR speed MANUAL BORWNIE? Wow...how did that one work out?
SteveCarras 2 years ago
Oops! My bad. It was a 10spd main with a 4spd brownie! I hit the wrong # there. I gotta little excited 'bout recolecting the good ole days of "twin stickin"! Now for the "6spd auto & 4spd browny"! The 6spd auto ran it's course with 4spd browny starting off in deep reduction range. After the auto trans. ran it's course, I took the browny from deep to low, low to direct, & direct to over! Didn't worry bout the other ranges, just start in D/drive. The setup was in tractor/trailer belly dump combo!
bionictrucker1 2 years ago
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eriksf250 1 year ago
@bionictrucker1 i agree, I hate automatics!!! any truck driver out there drivin automatics aren't real drivers. you go grab your ores and row through some gears, then you're a real truck driver. i'm only 24 but i've learned on the old stuff!! nothin like a '79 Kenworth with armstrong steering and screamin demon, or an old dm mack w/ a duplex!!! Power to the twin sticks, old trucks, and the drivers who drive them!!!!
eriksf250 1 year ago
@eriksf250 Ya got that right driver. Glad to seeya love them old school rigs. I love em & they're definately a dying breed as well as us old schoolers, 10-4?
bionictrucker1 1 year ago
@bionictrucker1 thats a big 10-4! I drive an '86 Mack DM rolloff truck daily. She's got the old 285 and duplex. She might be old and slow but once that turbo kicks in, she'll pull hard. I sometimes drive an '82 Autocar rolloff, she's got a 300 big cam and an 8LL u-pattern. She's the Megan Fox of rolloff trucks around my area lol.
eriksf250 1 year ago
@eriksf250 Ya drivin an ole AutoCar as well? Freakin awsome! The Megan Fox of rolloffs, huh? That's cool! Ole Megan is one pretty gal---10-4? Ya got any pics of the AutoCar to share? That's an ole classic old schooler as well. Ya ever seen Diamond Rios/Diamond T's or how bout Brockways or the ole Whites or White Freightliners or the old Dodge's or the needle nose Petes & KW's w/the butterfly hinge hoods?
bionictrucker1 1 year ago
@bionictrucker1 no pics of the Autocar yet, i want to get a good pic of her. yeah lol, Megan fox of rolloffs, ain't anything like her on the roads around here and that's a big 10-4 driver on that pretty gal. She's an old schooler. i've been around Diamond Reo's, Diamond T's, and my grandfather had a few Brockway Tractors and a dump truck. My old boss used to have an '74 Brockway dump truck i used to drive, miss it lots. i've seen alot of the old trucks. my grandfather use to have a H model Mack
eriksf250 1 year ago
@eriksf250 I sure do miss ALL of them there "Old School" rigs. Seein all these old trucks back when I was a youngin was just freakin awesome. Some times I'll see the ole 382 Cabover Petes & one in a while I'll still see a Kenworth K-100 cabover flattop sleeper or with the Kenworth Aerodyne. My dad drove the old B model Macks, single drive axles semis, tandom drives, I single driver with a tag axle. Keep er safe out there driver.
bionictrucker1 1 year ago
@bionictrucker1 nice. thanks, you keep it safe out there driver, keep the shiny side up, rubber side down, catch you on the flipside
eriksf250 1 year ago
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@bionictrucker1 i agree, I hate automatics!!! any truck driver out there drivin automatics aren't real drivers. you go grab your ores and row through some gears, then you're a real truck driver. i'm only 24 but i've learned on the old stuff!! nothin like a '79 Kenworth with armstrong steering and screamin demon, or an old dm mack w/ a duplex!!! Power to the twin sticks, old trucks, and the drivers who drive them!!!!
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@bionictrucker1
Yeah..you got THAT right, buddy.
SteveCarras 1 year ago
@bionictrucker1 hey man, thats really cool. Im 14 just a beginner, but what is a 6 spd auto with a 4 spd browny? How does that even work?
2strokedetroit 10 months ago
@2strokedetroit Hey there 2strokedetroit, how are ya? Thankya fer yers comment & question. The 6 spd auto & 4 spd brownie was pretty simple. Not as hard as one mite think. I was driving an old 74 kenworth draggin a belly dump behind me. The 6 spd auto main tranny ran thru its normal coarse on its own then I was able to run the 4 spd browny manually, all with no clutch involved mind ya! The 13spd was a 10spd with the 4spd brownie. I had hit the wrong # on the key board! Whatuhya learnin in?
bionictrucker1 10 months ago
@bionictrucker1
I agree..
SteveCarras 9 months ago
@SteveCarras HEY THERE, STEVE. WHAT IS IT THATCHYA ARE AGREEIN WITH ME ON? HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND WHAT COMMENT OF MINE YA HAD READ. TAKE CARE.
bionictrucker1 9 months ago
I think its probably the best video on Youtube, which probably says more about me than the video!
regman57 2 years ago
Now that's gear jammin'! Hats off to you folks who know how to do it!
81zed 2 years ago 2
y is there 2?
01yz125rider 2 years ago
The current gearboxes are only different from the triplex and quadraplex in that they do all that splitting with air solenoids and only the main gears are shifted manually if I understand correct.
jdkl81 2 years ago
Yep air cylinders do the aux shifting. A modern 18 speed is really a 5x4 but the shift pattern is quite different. Depending on the transmission the old twin sticks had a 4, 5 or 6 (rare) speed main and a 2, 3 or 4 speed auxiliary gear box.
Example- Mack 15 speed Triplex:
Main in 1st then shift the aux: lo-direct-high
quickly shift main to 2nd & pull aux back to lo and repeat.
Some gear boxes like the 13 speed mack required you to shift from 4-hi directly to 5-hi as you skipped 5th lo&direct
lordtaw 2 years ago
what is the shift pattern
nemo378 2 years ago
My grandfather used to drive trucks like this, I'm in a truck drivers school now, but I wish I could find someone to teach me how to do this, just to have that connection with the past. It was a pleasure to watch.
hybredmoon 2 years ago
Wonder if anyone else noticed that the last little sound byte was from the movie Duel??
AggregateDood 2 years ago
its from the beggining of smokey and the bandit when the kenworth pulls away
CUMMINSM11 2 years ago
Nice compilation! Nobody built twin-stickers like Mack; too bad they weren't allowed to update the QuadBox for today's 2,000+ ft-lb engines.
bcschmerker 2 years ago
there was no need for it with a 2000+ ft-lb engine. those engines have the power (or "work" for the science geeks) enough for current gearboxes. the quadbox died the minute the turbocharger lived.
rwaitt14153 2 years ago 3
Wow!!! Although I'm not a truck driver I would like to know the gear shift pattern of an 18 spd twin stick. If anyone has any info about it I could get off the web please let met know.
If it weren't for truck drivers all are store shelves would be empty. Thank God for truck drivers!!!
KelticKlansman 2 years ago 7
@KelticKlansman
It's like an eight speed [4 + range change] then turned into 16 with split, then a LO split on the left-in short,m like a nine speed [same pattern as five speed] split each way. A six speed with three rangers might be easier to descibre..LOL
SteveCarras 1 year ago
If you need two shifters just keep a pic of Jessica Simpson handy. Perferably from "Employee of the Month". Or Sandra Bullock.,:LOL
SteveCarras 2 years ago
HAHAHAHAHA the guy that takes his hand off the wheel and shifts through the wheel. this shit is chronic. i want two shifters.
bradenn 2 years ago
SWEEEEEEET!
bigbluepete 2 years ago
sorry for this stupid question but can someone explain the function of the 2 sticks?
WNxRadeon 2 years ago
think of twin sticks like a 13 or an 18 speed it allows you to split the gear instead of losing 5 to 600 RPM'S you only lose 2 to 300 makes for better hill climbing
mike198748 2 years ago 2
makes sense :)
THX ;)
WNxRadeon 2 years ago
my pleasure. not many of us left that know anything about shifting twins, LOL it can be a pain at times, but you cant beat having the knowledge
mike198748 2 years ago
just think of it like this
the first stick shifts the main box like in a car and the second stick shist an auxillary box that allows the driver to select an extra range of gears between the gears in the main box
roadwolf2 2 years ago
really nice job john.
the only thing ive come close to running is international s2100 10wheeler dumptruck with a 5+2 and now i have to learn how my 1931 model aa ford is. a nonsynchro 4spd ought to be fun lol
cubcadetpuller 2 years ago
tht wuld suck i wuld hate to do tht
dkchapss 2 years ago
i wonder if he can pour coffee at the same time. Cool vid!
jonjenny 2 years ago
at 0:05 and 0:49, is that twin sticks in a pick-up? The cab looks more like a pick-up's then a semi's.
YellowDodge67 2 years ago
Yeah it's a 1978 GMC 1 Ton pick-up.
IDIDieselJohn 2 years ago
motor?
Dammmj 2 years ago
@IDIDieselJohn
Was this a factory original GMC pick-up?
Or was the trannie switched?
Rob1983Rules 1 year ago
Engine/transmission swap.
IDIDieselJohn 1 year ago
Thanks for the info,, would be great if factory made, I'd buy or import one.
Overhere in Holland we dont have those twin sticks, just hi/lo and splitter switches.
Every idiot can drive the trucks overhere.
Rob1983Rules 1 year ago
That was from a 78 Chevy 3/4 ton.
Hotrodx199 1 year ago
id love to get the oppurtunity to drive a twin stick but i only work on roadrangers... o well it was a revolution to not use 2 sticks!
85raminator 2 years ago
.......whats the point? i know i'm a idiot.. but is there any payoffs or advantige?
xox945 2 years ago
No point or advantage, simply old technology. These days you get 1 shifter with 2 plastic buttons on it, that does what a Twin Stick does, except much easier to drive lol.
IDIDieselJohn 2 years ago
ahh, ok thanks for answering, now i'm not a NOOB lol
xox945 2 years ago
Thats how it was done before airshift came into play in the late 50's.
chris1422 2 years ago
This really makes me anxious to get the 5 spd back into my Pacific...
64Pacific 2 years ago
SWEEEEEEEEETTTT
isadorus 2 years ago
Nicely done composite video here, representing Mack compounds, tandem Spicers, and similar.
bcschmerker 2 years ago
I thought drivin a 5 speed with rear2 spd was hard.
cranemaninamerica 2 years ago
The twin stick trucks were always called "Spicers"
johnbacktun 2 years ago
Spicers also could be one stick with three or four speed switches if not second stick
-example, from a book partly by Herbert Zim, best rememebered perhaps for his insighjtful insect books of yore, published in ealry 70s called simp,y Trucks
R 1 3 5 A C
LL 2 4 6 B D
28 fwd gears [only 24 main plus 4 underdrive] and 4 reverse in the illustrsation I saw but hell, any combo could be used. 5 and 4, sometimes with two speed swtich for differentials,etc. [20 or 40!]
SteveCarras 2 years ago
Hey, this is a great compilation of shifting the various stick patterns in the Conv. and COEs. Looks like Mack, IHC, GMC(?) are represented.
Thanks for sharin' this composition.
Twinhit 2 years ago
thanks!
iizabunghole1234 2 years ago
whats the name of the song?
iizabunghole1234 2 years ago
The Legend - Jerry Reed.
IDIDieselJohn 2 years ago
Awesome video. No doubt it takes an awful lot of skill to drive those, double-clutching and all.
This is what I would call REAL truck drivers at work.
NipkowDisk 2 years ago 6
@NipkowDisk I dont even use the clutch................only for starting off and going into reverse
4inches4u 1 year ago
find em and grind em
GarrettJDB 2 years ago
Thats me @ :22,:45 and 1:02!
chris1422 2 years ago
You sure know how to drive that 62 Pete!
IDIDieselJohn 2 years ago
Why do trucker have to do that? is it like dubble cluchen
robthercking 2 years ago
The old diesel engines had about a 400 rpm powerband. The gaps in the trans are about 900 rpm. They used a 2nd trans to get the extra ratios to keep it in the power band.
chris1422 2 years ago
So if you took it out of gear at 2100 rpm and went to the next gear you would drop down to 1200 rpm. Then If you downshift the auxillary trans 2 gears you will raise the rpm up 600 rpm's which puts you back in the powerband.
chris1422 2 years ago
In addition in extreme cases you could also have a THIRD transmission, at the rear end, i.e., the solenoid or otherwise-switched ratio splitter. There were other combinations. [Three sticks, anyone? :)]
SteveCarras 2 years ago
the was badass at 0:50 awesome vid man
potheadNZ 2 years ago
ollschool fuckyeah
72klinger 2 years ago
double clutch at 1:28
Bullitt2112 2 years ago
sorry, i´m from germany and my englisch is not so well. my question: is it normal while shifting that way that you don´t have to use the clutch?
666Manila999 2 years ago
Yes, you can shift really any car/truck without useing the clutch. But it's harder in a car, but still possible.
IDIDieselJohn 2 years ago
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Colt45lc 2 years ago
At least SEMI's have not been ALL touched [raped?] with autmoatics YET...they even did it to intoercity buses more than 40 years ago [even though it did not take off till about 25-35 at least for autos..]
SteveCarras 2 years ago
Yeah so true, people these days are just to damn lazy to drive standard, but me a twin stick I wouldn't mine having, my uncle still has his old 74 Loadstar (theres a 1972 in this vid) with a 5 & 4 speed and he lets me try it and boy at first it was hard but ones I got the hang of it it's not all that bad, I still wouldn't go in hills with it though lol. Now that I got the hang of it I really would love to find a Twin Stick farm truck and buy it. Fun to drive.
IDIDieselJohn 2 years ago
im new to all of this lol. wat is the need to have 2 sticks?
Franko94 2 years ago
The stick with the black knob (the longer stick) is the main, and the red knob (shorter stick) is to slip the gears of the main.
IDIDieselJohn 2 years ago
awsome video man
DodgeRamit02 2 years ago
Thats crazy, that has to take alot of skill to do something like that. looks confusing too. cool tho
Chrisgarage1 2 years ago
That's really interesting to see and I'm sure it takes a lot of skill...the only thing I have driven which comes close is a 1970 International Loadstar where you had to double-clutch to shift.
retrochad 3 years ago
these guys kick ass!! =O can't get enough of videos like this one
isadorus 3 years ago
i give credit to these guys. i could never do that!
lawnboy7260G 3 years ago
wow
brendonk01 3 years ago