To anonymous jdtrickster4- you are a walking dramatization of "hate" towards people of a different religion (than you). You have no real understanding of my religion and I can see that.
See what's happening in the Middle East? See why this country was founded on "freedom of religion"?
You really need to get a life rather than harass church volunteers who are out there providing REAL HELP to the people in Haiti and to many other countries around the world.
The great majority approached DON'T join.-As $cn leader David Miscavige announced at an event designed to fleece the sheep, they'd "invited" 1,010,480,489 peoples of earth to the planetary clearing effort (from their battle cry: Clear the Planet) & there are less than 50k members worldwide: A 20,000:1 ratio; an utter rejection of $cientology. Of those who do, the vast majority leave in 1-2 yrs & only an infinitesimal # stay to fork over $1000s or 100s of 1000s to the cult for their "salvation."
It doesn't matter how long one's been in. $cientology's was started -the SOURCE of all the Potential Trouble, really- 55 yrs ago by conman prevaricator & charlatan, L Ron Hubbard, a Pulp fiction (sci-fi & adventure, mostly) writer of the 50s who struck it with a popular self-help book: Dianetics, the Modern Science of Mental Help
He founded Scientology in 1954 but this "church" & SCIENCE's never accomplished even a fraction of its promises; such as Clear & OT. It's all a con, a scam & a fraud.
Its deluded members, adherents, or "marks," really, may be well intentioned -most are- but they're also brainwashed & indoctrinated into believing the LIES Hubbard told about himself, his past & his credentials.
He was not a Nuclear Physicist, Medical Dr. or a decorated WWII hero; as in point of fact, he never even saw any action & was discharged from the Navy for incompetency
He could never have healed himself of the injuries he claimed he did using Dianetics for he was NEVER INJURED, period.
$cientology's a scam that has been found guilty of "Organized Fraud" in France and is under investigation in many countries. It preys on the gullible & takes them on a ride up its bridge to nowhere using its bait n switch scheme of continuing FALSE PROMISES to help people attain "Higher States of Existence" and when these are not, they're sold more of the same: A Piece of Blue Sky, as Jon Atack's book title -excellent read on $cientology & its con founder, Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, btw.
The Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps is a program of the Church of Scientology providing disaster relief and emergency response. Created more than 30 years ago by Scientology Founder L. Ron Hubbard, the program has expanded to 203,000 Volunteer Ministers worldwide who have served at 175 worst-case disaster sites, including Ground Zero after 9/11, the Southeast Asia tsunami, Hurricane Katrina and the Haiti earthquake disaster.
"A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology."
by L.Ron Hubbard
AND THESE ARE THE AIMS OF ALL SCIENTOLOGISTS... as can be seen by their ever-present help in Haiti and many other worldwide disasters - WE'VE BEEN THERE!
I've been a Scientologist for 42 YEARS and a Volunteer Minister for thirty. Below are my aims and every other Scientologist I know. The way we achieve these aims are through organizations which get people off drugs, help people better their ability to learn in school (or life), rehabilitate criminals that are in prison, stop psychiatrists from abusing people with drugs, ECT, or chemical lobotomies. And our volunteer ministers always help in any national or international disasters.
Help the volunteer teams in your area; the Red Cross, Church groups, church groups, military organizations, and celebritys who are helping.The more help there is up front, the faster we'll get this huge job done for the people of Haiti.
The Prime Minister of Haiti is welcoming and appreciative of all the help that volunteers are giving.
If you can't get down there, which many of us can't, contribute so that others will have the supplies and food they need to do the job.
I'm a Scientology Volunteer Minister and I've worked side by side with the Red Cross, Christian groups and others during the floods in California, and no one checks to see what church you go to when you're on the ground lending help to so many people. Everyone is extremely glad you're there with them. That's REALLY where it's at.
Scientology Volunteer ministers are there to help. As a Scientology VM I've worked side by the with the Red Cross and Christian groups during California floods. Believe me, in any disaster all help is valued and we all appreciate each other and work as a team.
Other than the Scientology volunteer ministers already in Haiti helping people prior to the earthquake, our church sent 2 more planeloads of medicos (80 plus doctors) nurses and volunteers.
"A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology."
by L.Ron Hubbard
AND THESE ARE THE AIMS OF ALL SCIENTOLOGISTS... as can be seen by their ever-present help in Haiti and many other worldwide disasters - WE'VE BEEN THERE!
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
I've been a Scientologist for 42 YEARS and a Volunteer Minister for thirty. Below are my aims and every other Scientologist I know. The way we achieve these aims are through organizations which get people off drugs, help people better their ability to learn in school (or life), rehabilitate criminals that are in prison, stop psychiatrists from abusing people with drugs, ECT, or chemical lobotomies. And our volunteer ministers always help in any national or international disasters.
They may be YOUR aims, and as noble as they may be, they are NOT the aims of the PROVEN criminal, PROVEN lying, PROVEN membership manufacturing, PROVEN fraudulent, cult which you are a supporter of.
Do you believe the statement that 50% of psychiatrists sexually abuse their patients? Where are the veridiable docs for that?
"A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology."
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To the anonymous hate mongers like opencomments:
No one believes your goofy little group hiding behind Halloween masks, or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members just because we are helping people and you won't help people.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
Would you like to debate Anonymous harassment vs. cult harassment, ridebikeovision? Believe me, I could bury you in overwhelming PROVEN, court documented data about your EVIL, HATEFUL, CRIMINAL, CULT harassing INNOCENT people. Of curse, you may well be under the impression that LEGAL PROTESTS come under hate crimes and harassment. Maybe Anonymous should dress up in Nazi uniforms and march down the street to protest as your cult did? Would that be better than wearing masks do you think?
ooops - you are dramatizing the essence of "hate" towards we the people of a different religion (than you). A religion of which you have no real understanding. I'll put my 42 years of actual understanding of Scientology up against your "no understanding of it".
Don't you see what is happening in the Middle East? Don't you know why this country was founded on "freedom of religion"? You have no affinity for anyone in my religion and your aims are not honorable at all.
OpenComments is not a hate monger, you ignorant idiot. The ONLY group that has been officially labelled as a hate group is your criminally convicted, human rights abusing cult. Telling the truth is not hate mongering.
Apparently a VAST majority of the general public believe a lot of what Anonymous has to say about your proven criminally convicted cult and its proven criminally convicted founder.
This video is old, but 2 new ones came out the last couple days about the 5th flight Scientologists were taking to Haiti with supplies and doctors who said they were happy to have the volunteers' help. It's great to see there are people who are so selfless as to put their lives on hold to do good, while others just sit home and criticize.
I don't doubt that the Volunteer Ministers are selfless, I hope you understand that. In fact, Scientologists are well-meaning people that only want to imrpove themselves and the world.
The people that are NOT selfless are the ones within the corrupt management of the Church of Scientology. You don't see Tommy Davis, Kendrick Moxon, David Miscavige, or Heber Jentsch heading down there. Instead, they take advantage of good people and use the opportunity for PR.
I'm sorry, but you can't say they've been helping when they keep getting in the way. The landing slots were supposed to be reserved for medical professionals and recognized volunteer organizations. You can't have unprepared and unskilled people go out and do a doctor's job.
The Volunteer Ministers were sent there by the Church of Scientology as a PR opportunity. In other words, they are taking advantage of an international tragedy to advertise Scientology to the rest of the world
"One major survey of American religion shows Scientology declining in the U.S., however. The estimated number of Americans who identify as Scientologists rose from 45,000 in 1990 to 55,000 in 2001, then plummeted to 25,000 in 2008, according to the American Religion Identification Survey." - The Associated Press: Defections, court fights test Scientology, November 1 2009
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
I'm a Scientology Volunteer Minister and I've worked side by side with the Red Cross, Christian groups and others during the floods in California, and no one checks to see what church you go to when you're on the ground lending help to so many people. Everyone is extremely glad you're there with them. That's REALLY where it's at.
This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
To the anonymous hate mongers like opencomments: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members just because we are helping people and you won't help people.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
Consider this: If we really "hated" scientologists and wanted them to go to hell, we would not continue to get them OUT of scientology.
Word-clear all of that REALLY carefully, and you'll discover that there is no hate-mongering here.
If our communication skills are bad, then why do Scientologists run and hide behind curtains during every global protest? Hiding is low on the tone scale!
And when David Miscavige beats his staff, he causes engrams!
I've been a Scientologist for 42 YEARS and a Volunteer Minister for thirty. Below are my aims and every other Scientologist I know. The way we achieve these aims are through organizations which get people off drugs, help people better their ability to learn in school (or life), rehabilitate criminals that are in prison, stop psychiatrists from abusing people with drugs, ECT, or chemical lobotomies. And our volunteer ministers always help in any national or international disasters.
"A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology."
The Scientology volunteer minister teams, in coordination with other relief organizations, are distributing water, food and medical supplies and providing a wide range of services to support the medical professionals.
A Scientology Volunteer Minister who is a certified midwife has delivered two babies in Port-au-Prince. Others are providing trauma relief and grief counseling to relief workers and survivors of the quake.
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
'm a Scientology Volunteer Minister and I've worked side by side with the Red Cross, Christian groups and others during the floods in California, and no one checks to see what church you go to when you're on the ground lending help to so many people. Everyone is extremely glad you're there with them. That's REALLY where it's at.
Scientology Volunteer ministers are there to help. As a Scientology VM I've worked side by the with the Red Cross and Christian groups during California floods. Believe me, in any disaster all help is valued and we all appreciate each other and work as a team.
Other than the Scientology volunteer ministers already in Haiti helping people prior to the earthquake, our church sent 2 more planeloads of medicos (80 plus doctors) nurses and volunteers.
The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
To the anonymous hate mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
The Haitians themselves have stated over and over again in news reports on TV and various periodicals how they're extremely appreciative for the Scientology Volunteer Minister groups helpfulness.
Volunteer Ministers have trained and partnered with more than 800 different groups, organizations and agencies including the Red Cross, FEMA, the National Guard, and many others.
The Volunteer Ministers Corps motto is "Something can be done about it".
The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
Help the volunteer teams in your area; the Red Cross, Church groups, the military organizations, celebrity groups who are helping.The more help up front, the faster we'll get this huge job done.
The Prime Minister of Haiti is welcoming and appreciative of all the help that volunteers are giving.
If you can't get down there and help which many of us can't, contribute so that others we'll have the supplies or food they need to do the job.
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
To the anonymous hate mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
Scientology Volunteer ministers are there to help. As a Scientology VM I've worked side by the with the Red Cross and Christian groups during California floods. Believe me, in any disaster all help is valued and we all appreciate each other and work as a team.
Other than the Scientology volunteer ministers already in Haiti helping people prior to the earthquake, our church sent 2 more planeloads of medicos (80 plus doctors) nurses and volunteers.
The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
To the anonymous hate mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
Whose in trouble exactly, ridebikeovision? Would you like you grow some and lets compare PROVEN Scientology crimes and criminals compared with Anonymous ones? Take a look at the list of cult and cult victim crimes on my profile. I'll be happy to point you to sources for each and every one of them, L. Ron Hubbard's own criminal convictions and 5 year jail sentence included.
Most problems in life can be traced to undesirable, clueless idiots, your good self included.
The Cult of Scientology has sent Vulture Ministers to Haiti for one single purpose; PROFIT. The space cult profits from death, misery, and uncertainty. It's what cults do. The only thing that separates Scientology from your run-of-the-mill cults is the sheer size that it has been allowed to grow. Thankfully Scientology is now starting to become a non-entity, and it won't be long until Scientology is practised only by a few die hard nutters on the fringes of society.
NED for OTs Series 31 -- THE THETAN HAND TECHNIQUE
"Theres another process of getting rid of BTs and clusters. It is not always that magnificient but it is sometimes functional. What you do is mock up a thetan hand and using the edge of it as a sort of knife, you pass it between the body and black masses and sever them off. These masses are attached to the body by strings or lines or suction cups or beams..."
This has nothing to do with beliefs, but rather the abusive practices of Scientology. Women should not be forced to abort their children so that they can continue to work slave labor in the Sea Org. Children should not be separated from their parents for months at a time. People who displease David Miscavige should not be banished to Scientology's "rehabilitation camp" where the fences have inward facing spikes.
Help the volunteer teams in your area; the Red Cross, Church groups, the military organizations, celebrity groups who are helping.The more help up front, the faster we'll get this huge job done.
The Prime Minister of Haiti is welcoming and appreciative of all the help that volunteers are giving.
If you can't get down there and help which many of us can't, contribute so that others we'll have the supplies or food they need to do the job.
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
To the anonymous hate mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
The Haitians themselves have stated over and over again in news reports on TV and various periodicals how they're extremely appreciative for our Scientology Volunteer Ministers groups help.
Volunteer Ministers have trained and partnered with more than 800 different groups, organizations and agencies including the Red Cross, FEMA, the National Guard, and many others.
The Volunteer Ministers Corps motto is Something can be done about it.
This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
Scientology not only tolerates lying but actually presents formal training in the subject:
"Purpose: To train the student to give a false statement with good TR-1. To train the student to outflow false data effectively. The student should be coached on a gradient until he/she can lie facilely."
-L. Ron Hubbard, Intelligence Specialist Training RoutineLying (TR-L)
When ridebikeovision makes statements like how the Haitians say how appreciative they are - this is a lie. A trained liar.
"The action of bringing about a pro-Scientology government consists of making a friend of the most highly placed government person one can reach, even placing Scientologists in domestic and clerical posts close to him and seeing to it that Scientology resolves his troubles and case."
(Hubbard, "Department of Official Affairs", HCO Policy Letter of 13 March 1961)
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
Help the volunteer teams in your area; the Red Cross, Church groups, the military organizations, celebrity groups who are helping.The more help up front, the faster we'll get this huge job done.
The Prime Minister of Haiti is welcoming and appreciative of all the help that volunteers are giving.
If you can't get down there and help which many of us can't, contribute so that others we'll have the supplies or food they need to do the job.
Scientology Volunteer ministers are there to help. As a Scientology VM I've worked side by the with the Red Cross and Christian groups during California floods. Believe me, in any disaster all help is valued and we all appreciate each other and work as a team.
Other than the Scientology volunteer ministers already in Haiti helping people prior to the earthquake, our church sent 2 more planeloads of medicos (80 plus doctors) nurses and volunteers.
The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
The Haitians themselves have stated over and over again in news reports on TV and various periodicals how they're extremely appreciative for our Scientology Volunteer Ministers groups help.
Volunteer Ministers have trained and partnered with more than 800 different groups, organizations and agencies including the Red Cross, FEMA, the National Guard, and many others.
The Volunteer Ministers Corps motto is Something can be done about it.
This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
To the anonymous hate mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
Two former employees who worked more than a decade at the Church of Scientologys Golden Era Productions enclave near Hemet have filed lawsuits alleging the church violated federal and state labor laws and engaged in human trafficking.
Marc and Claire Headley claim they were paid less than 50 cents an hour and forced to work more than 100 hours a week. They claim they never received overtime pay and were required to sign documents under duress acknowledging they had forfeited their rights.
$CIENTOLOGY, the ONLY "religion?" which sees peaceful protesters carrying signs as "terrorists" & a natural disaster and human suffering, as "a business opportunity."
Isn't it great that Jan Hunter is an OT-3 yet is forbidden to talk about Xenu, but we wogs are NOT OT-3 and can talk about Xenu all we like? It's GREAT to *not* be in a sinister, manipulative, controlling, lying unethical organization such as the Church of Scientology, isn't it?
Tory Christman and many other Scientologists once regretted the effects of being out of Scientology ... and now, they enjoy it. The freedom.
You'd think Jan & his wife, Liz would find it ODD a "church" that harps on so much about Freedom & Communication would have so many secrets, so much mystery & so little of either.
This is right out of Orwell's "1984," where the "Ministry of Truth," or Minitru, was where the past, present & future were altered & the LIES created -a la David Miscavige's alteration of the TACK! ;-D
Where the "Minisitry of Love" or Miniluv exacted its punishment, a la RPF, etc.
Of course, WE ALL KNOW...cuz L. Ron Hubbard told us, you and I will probably die of pneumonia now that we've read this super-secret confidential material, OC. We are DOOMED! ;-D
My only consolation comes from the fact that as the NY Times stated: So far, NO EPIDEMIC has been reported !! ;-D
I wonder if these "OT Levels" are confidential and secret cause it would be bad for INCOME if people knew of them ahead of time before they "signed up," OC? What do u think, brother OC? :)
Hey jd, ridebikeovision has been a Scientologist for over 42 years. L. Ron Hubbard must be rolling in his grave considering how many people have fallen for his scam of a religion. I mean, he was a bigamist, a drug addict, heck, he even died with a psych drug (Vistaril) in his system! Yet his crime syndicate continues, and people like ridebikeovision are complicit in Scientology's crimes.
Yeah, those OT levels are confidential and secret because it would certain mess with income. Income being the key word - if Scientology depended on income, that would make it a business, and not a non-profit organization.
Scientology ruins families.
KSW is gone - it is all David Miscavige now.
To force Scientologists to buy and rebuy a book four times over, each time slightly edited? Scientology is a money making scam, people!
The Church of Scientology provides no money towards the victims in Haiti. None. Not one penny. The church supplies no food, no water, no medicine, no building materials, no personnel, no expertise, nothing for Haiti.
But they claim, in their press releases, that their Volunteer Ministers are "a major relief agency" helping in Haiti. If they do nothing, how can they claim this?
John Travolta supplied an airplane, not the church. Individual Scientologists volunteered to go using their own money. As usual, the Church of Scientology did nothing.
Along with a few untrained Scientology "Volunteer Ministers" Travolta offered a lift to health-care workers from the Association of Haitian Physicians Abroad and from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Those other non-Scientology groups were sending trained medical personnel and the Scientologists were completely untrained. And yet, in a most disgusting bit of lying, the Church of Scientology is actually claiming they sent the medical personnel!
As is usual, the Church of Scientology volunteers showed up at the disaster without food, without medicine, without supplies, without equipment, without shelter, without expertise -- so they are a burden on resources already stretched very, very thin
As is usual, the Volunteer Ministers make the situation worse by requiring food and shelter that should be going to the victims!
But they have bright yellow t shirts that show up well for the Church of Scientology photographer! Yes, while the Volunteer Ministers are useless to real relief agencies, they are very useful to the Church of Scientology's PR department.
But, as disgusting as all this is, the Church of Scientology's response to this disaster is much, much worse.
The Church of Scientology is officially urging all Scientologists to "help Haiti by giving to the IAS (International Association of Scientologists)" Not to any legitimate relief agency. No, Scientologists must help Haiti by "giving to the IAS".
And the IAS has not ever given a penny to any disaster relief effort. The IAS will never give a penny to any disaster relief. The money goes to David Miscavige. Period. Last I checked, David Miscavige wasn't in Haiti and didn't need any assistance.
Yes, the Church of Scientology is using the Haiti disaster to make money! They are profiting on human suffering!
But wait, there is more!
Bridge Publications, the publisher of Scientology books, is urging Scientologists to buy Scientology books to "send to Haiti"! Scientologists are not being urged to pay for food or water or medicine or shelter for Haiti. No, they are being urged to pay for Scientology books to Haiti!
But get this: Bridge Publications is charging full price for these donated books, meaning Bridge Publications is making full profit on all the books. They are profiting on human suffering!
Further, judging by how Bridge Publications handles donated books (Library Program, Mission Starter Program), those donated books will never be shipped. Of course the books are useless to Haitians, but it is highly likely that Bridge Publications will simply keep all the money. Profit!
Yes, the Church of Scientology has reacted quickly and decisively on the Haitian disaster -- they are making millions of dollars of profit, generating many nice press releases for the church, without having to spend a single penny, nor actually help anyone.
All decent people, including Scientologists, should add their voice to absolutely condemn the Church of Scientology for their disgusting greed in the face of such human suffering.
This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
The Haitians themselves have stated over and over again in news reports on TV and various periodicals how they're extremely appreciative of our Scientology Volunteer Ministers groups. Volunteer Ministers have trained and partnered with more than 800 different groups, organizations and agencies including the Red Cross, FEMA, the National Guard, and many others.
The Volunteer Ministers Corps motto is Something can be done about it.
Scientology Volunteer ministers are there to help. As a Scientology VM I've worked side by the with the Red Cross and Christian groups during California floods. Believe me, in any disaster all help is valued and we all appreciate each other and work as a team.
Other than the Scientology volunteer ministers already in Haiti helping people prior to the earthquake, our church sent 2 more planeloads of medicos (80 plus doctors) nurses and volunteers.
The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
HOORAY FOR ALL THE SCIENTOLOGY VOLUNTEER MINISTERS AND JOBS WELL DONE!
To hate-mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hiding behind Halloween masks and the internet, skulking around and trying to harass church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble in the first place.
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
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Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
HOORAY FOR ALL THE SCIENTOLOGY VOLUNTEER MINISTERS AND JOBS WELL DONE!
You need to find out the good, the bad & the ugly w/ regards to $cientology, called the Cult of Greed & Power by Richard Behard's Time Magazine article; not just the flowery language & PR in the cult's propaganda websites
$cientology, at its core, is a crime syndicate & its policies & ways fascistic & retrograde. If it had its way, all civilizing, modern western concepts of freedom & justice would cease & we'd enter into an Orwellian barbarism I'd not wish upon my worst enemy
"He punched me in the face at least ten times and my glasses fell off, I was thrown up against a desk unit, a counter top, and that was the moment right then when I realized I could go no further down than this, to be beaten by the leader [David Miscavige] of my so-called church." - Marc Headley, ex-Scientologist and former Executive Producer at Golden Era Production (production company owned by Scientology), Glosslip April 27, 2008
Open and JD are paid shills monitoring this website . Hope you guys are getting well paid. Game over for me. My religion is Pentecostal and I have discernment and you 2 are just plain evil.
There is nothing evil about caring that Scientology policies break up families. Ida Camburn hasn't seen her son for 30 years ... all because Scientology will declare him a PTS (potential trouble source) if he sees her. Do you have any idea how sad it would be, that the very person she gave birth to can't and won't see her?
If evil means opposing Scientology's policies of disconnection and tactics to intimidate/harass critics, then you must word-clear evil.
Sorry about your theory, celt. I'm not paid a cent. It's a labor of love. If u're truly Pentecostal find the $cientology OT8 (its highest level available or released to "the public" - what $cientology calls its parishioners or "marks") document by L Ron Hubbard & read what he had to say about Christ.
I'll give u a taste:
Hubbard says Christ was not the sainted figure he was made out to be; that this was only Marcabian PR & he was prone to fits of anger & was a lover of young boys
In another document -OT3 or Level III OT- (Operating Thetan which if u say it with a lisp it comes out Saetan) he says Marcabian evil intergalactic overlord Xenu exterminated entire populations in his "empire" 75 million yrs ago by bringing over a trillion of "his people" to earth, then known as Teegeeack &exploding them in volcanoes (the reason 4 the volcano in every cover of Dianetics) then hypnotized them by electronic "implants" &brainwashed them to believe in God, Christ, etc.
Since these disembodied dead space aliens inhabit the bodies of current humanity, it is for this reason that WE believe in God, Christ, Mohamed, etc.
You can listen to Ron in his unmistakable voice on YT for yourself, courtesy of EX-Scientologists who WOKE UP to realize the insanity of this "madman messiah" who claimed $cientology was THE ONLY HOPE FOR MAN & aimed -as David Miscavige & all $cientologists do today- to clear the planet.
Finally, why isn't ridebikeovision a "paid shill?"
Are u taking $cientology courses or receiving "auditing?" This is how they reel you in & "love bomb" ya in the beginning.
You say u're Pentecostal but u can be both at least when u 1st start in $cientology. Are u a $cieno, yes or no?
If you're not, then I'm sorry to say you have ZERO discernment. Moreover, you don't know what $cientology is. As I pointed out already, Hubbard says ALL religions, incl Christianity are electronic implants & Christ nothing but a Marcazbian "plant."
Scientology abuses its members working them 70-130 hrs a wk for slave wages of 40 cents an hr -10 cents an hr if they're so unlucky to need "rehabilitation" in one of its gulags or concentration camps.
Children are abused as child slave labor & young women are either coaxed or coerced into getting abortions. It breaks up families & harasses its critics.
It is a fascist totalitarian organization operating above the law as nothing is as important as Clearing the Planet (taking over the world).
Scientology receiving good press is really driving you crazy! Spewing out your hate like a rabid dog. I m starting to really appreciate Scientology now that I see what the opposition is like.
Join the Sea Org and sign up for the Gold Base to see what a nice guy David Miscavige is, celt. LOL
Don't forget to salute his pet beagle. The little pooch wears a captain's uniform complete with a cptn's regalia and all Sea Org members MUST salute the pet.
Oh and if *it* barks at you, it means you have "overts" or are "out-ethics." It could even send u to the RPF (Rehabilitation Project Force) ;-D
"David Miscavige beats his staff" , "Scientology breaks up families" , and "Scientology forces women to have abortions in the Sea Org" is not hate, though. What "hate" are you talking about?
If it's bigotry to disapprove of criminal activity in a religion, why didn't the Catholics accuse the people who accused them of being child molesters of hate crimes? Isn't that the same thing?
Btw, $cientology receives little "good press" these days. Actually, it NEVER did, but these days, even less. As more & more people find out about the cult / crime syndicate, they'll see what a few ex critics -who dared to speak out against all odds & OSA's (Office of Special Affairs) "Fair Game" criminal & above the law tactics & ANONYMOUS have been saying.
But $cientology's worst enemy -besides David Miscavige- is THE TRUTH being spread thru the internet: $cientology's Waterloo
To hate-mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hiding behind Halloween masks, skulking around and trying to harass church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills. It is very apparent that your pathetic little group revels in bad communication and is MOST likely why you're in trouble in the first place.
John Duignan, a top scientologist who escaped Scientology has given the most explosive insight yet into the shady celebrity religion. For John, it cost him everything and everyone he held dear after he became a leading figure in the church's British branch.
John says he was so brainwashed that he would have killed for Scientology. And he claims another member was driven to a suicide bid when she was rehabilitated after trying to leave. John tells of his nightmare in his book, "The Complex".
The Volunteer Minister program most heavily promoted by Scientology took place in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. Critics of Scientology accused the organization of attempting to take advantage of the disaster in order to promote Scientology to the grief-stricken populace in the area. An intercepted email from a Sea Org "Lieutenant" brags of a deliberate plan to prevent the grief-stricken from receiving counseling from psychiatrists.
Having used Scientology for 42 years to help others as a Scientology Volunteer Minister or achieve their goals in life, I know Scientology works and works well. It's very rewarding work and the Prime Minister himself to many, many Haitians have repeatedly praised the help from Scientology VMs.
In 2001, more than 800 Scientology Volunteer Ministers responded to the World Trade Center disaster and provided spiritual and practical aid to emergency workers for many weeks. They have also been an integral part of rescue and salvage efforts at the sites of hurricanes, floods, earthquakes and fires.
More than 500 Scientology Volunteer Ministers from 11 nations served in relief efforts in Southeast Asia, India and Sri Lanka in 2004 after the Tsunami. Their work was reported on by international media including CNN, The Economist, Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal.
Volunteer Ministers have trained and partnered with more than 800 different groups, organizations and agencies including the Red Cross, FEMA, the National Guard, and police and fire departments aand are active members of VOAD (Volunteer Organizations Active in Disasters. The Volunteer Ministers Corps motto is Something can be done about it.
P.S. Loved the Scientology commercials!!!!!!!!! I want to check out more for myself. Beats the hell out of listening fear-mongering idiots here. Gentlemen I bid you a good day. Ciao
Oh those commercials and their entire propaganda is beautiful, indeed. They're meant to attract the gullible idiots who fal for them. ;-D
I see a future in $cientology for ya. Oh and the whole thing will run ya a mere half a million dollars. IF u don't make or they high-pressure ya into making a lot of straight "DONATIONS/"
Don't let the door slam you in the reactive behind on your way out. L0L
Totally. One major indicator of a Scientologist: they start their sentence off with "I'm not a Scientologist, but ..."
Ever wonder why the Church of Scientology own so many empty buildings? Or why is there so much alter-is in the current text, from what L. Ron Hubbard originally wrote? I also wonder why there is such a focus by the current management on stats and money? These are questions Scientologists should ask themselves.
A tax shelter or a "getaway fund" for the tiny dictator David "Slappy" Miscavige or BOTH!
A lot of what Miscavige has altered or totally deleted is stuff that would give away all he's been doing & implementing in the *new* Golden Age of Tack "Church of Miscavology"
For ex those quotes you use from Hubbard from tape 20 of the PDC tapes seem to point squarely at Miscavige; as if Ron was speaking to him from the grave. Other changes may just be for PR reasons for da ole conman had a BiG mouth
LOL, ridebikovision's comments are being marked as SPAM. Remember those good old days when alt religion Scientology would have sporgery, to try and bury comments? It's FAILING on YouTube!
SCIENTOLOGY is a CRIMINAL MIND CONTROL MONEY CULT that was FABRICATED by a penniless, drug addicted wife beating tax cheater named L. Ron Hubbard and is now run by a violent alcoholic dwarf named DAVID MISCAVIGE, whom apparently beats his staff and humiliates people for his own amusement.
Well said, brother OC. Those days are gone & the internet is & will cont. to be $cientology's Waterloo.
Hubbard was, indeed, as Judge Breckenridge said in the Gerry Armstrong vs the CoS of CA trial, a paranoid schizophrenic pathological liar & his organization, $cientology, a reflection of his demented personality.
David Miscavige is an abusive opportunistic sociopath who saw his opportunity for a coup & may have been indirectly involved in Hubbard's death
To wake up one day only to realize u've been led down the garden path & coldly hoodwinked or bamboozled by a trusted person or group is not an easy thing to face up to. It takes a lot of, as a Scientologist might say, CONFRONT.
So I understand when a Scientologist's reluctant to own up to or admit -if only to themselves- they've been had; that they've been DECEIVED by, again, the ONLY HOPE FOR MANKIND, the "greatest good for the greatest number" & by something as crude as a confidence game.
jd: EXACTLY! You don't get much cold/harder facts than listening o the story Scientology vehemently denies ... IN HUBBARD'S OWN VOICE! I mean listen to this!
watch?v=T7EEOMbBIO8
For major spokespersons to deny the story of Xenu just because it's embarassing, that's wrong. And to tell its members not to read it because if you read it being unprepared, you will get sick of pneumonia and die - that's dishonest, too!
Section III OT = OT3 = Incident II. 75 million years ago Xenu commits mass extermination, drops bodies in volcanoes on earth, souls are subjected to 36 days of hypnotic implants which then attach to humans. OT3 is all about auditing out these body thetans.
OT4 = more body thetans and drugs
OT5 = even more body thetans and NOTs
OT6 = how to really audit body thetans out this time
OT7 = apply what you learned in OT6
OT8 = a review of above. Not successful? Start all over again!
It always reminds me of what ex-Scientologist and critic Arnie Lerma says:
The TRUE Wall of Fire: DECEPTION!!!
Imagine being betrayed by your best friend or business partner.
Think of how painful it would be to be deceived by the one you love; your girlfriend or own wife who you are convinced loves & is loyal to you.
Transfer this same loyalty, devotion &HOPE one mistakenly & quite costly places on a "belief system" you think will SAVE ALL MANKIND; only to be crassly deceived.. & FOR MONEY!
JD I just totally dicredited you as a reliable person. You are paranoid to the point of being delusional. Don t look now but I think the Martians are outside your door.LOL . I m off now to see if I can get better information on the Scientology website.
And just how did u totally discredit me? I missed that. Was it by making an assertion of your own? A false one at that.
Making claims I'm paranoid & delusional do not a truth make, sir. And trying to get "better info" on Scientology's own website is like, would be like a citizen of Oceania -ever read Orwell's "1984?"- trying to get better info from "Minitru" (The Ministry of Truth, where the past was constantly changed to suit the party/ party line & the present & future created)
Yes, I missed the part where celticrosss1 totally discredited you too. It must be a reality that he mocked up himself. After all, by Scientology's pseudo-philosophy, 2 + 2 = whatever you want it to be, wouldn't you say? "What's true for you is true for you"?
Saying that Scientology's website has better info on Scientology is like saying a drug dealer has better info on drugs - a totally biased and obviously slanted opinion.
Maybe I was wrong, OC. Perhaps celtic IS yet another deluded $cientologist in denial who even when faced with cold hard facts his cult / crime syndicate, really is fraudulent &abusing its own people financially, mentally, physically & spiritually by lying, conning & deceiving them & I'm afraid, KNOWINGLY so, CANNOT face up to it.
This is what I find most deplorable about $cientology, for I'd be willing to make ANY sacrifice IF $cientology did indeed deliver what it promises but it does not.
Check out "The Truth Rundown. org" by the St Petersburg Times, an award & Pulitzer prize winning paper, who is or would be an independent unbiased source, rather than $cn's own website which will say as they did in Orwell's 1984's "Oceania:"
Oceania's armies are marching on. East Asia (their archenemy) is being defeated at every turn...(switching to Ron's $cientology) We are achieving our aims, the Sun NEVER sets on Scientology. We are CLEARING THE PLANET. Hep! Hep! Hooray! ;-D
By all means, get your "info" from the $cientology website-it's totally non-biased!
And speaking of Martians, it was L Ron Hubbard who believed they were coming. In fact your body is infested with them and $cientology can get rid of them for the low, low price of $300,000!
$cientology-the only "religion" that considers a natural disaster a business opportunity.
Hey jd ever hear of the judicial system, they exist to convict criminals. If you have evidence prove it. If not quit throwing unprovable accusations around. Your fear-mongering might upset some people but facts are all I'm interested in. I will research all of your claims by checking out both sides but your generalized fear-mongering are points against you.
Hey celt, that's only a smokescreen & a red herring. Many $cientologists have gone to jail already. Reed Slatkin,14 yrs for his Ponzi scheme embezzlement of half a billion dollars. He was co-founder of earthlink with "Delphian" Sky Dayton, bamboozled by Reed, himself.
There's OT7 Rex Fowler, who shot to death his WOG employee for threatening to hire a lawyer to expose him as a crook taking money fr the co. to "donate" to $cientology.
Then there's the FRAUD conviction in France, to name a few.
I'll presume you're not a Scientologist - most of whom are good people, if only highly deluded & in many cases brainwashed but I'd do my fact checking research b4 u accused me of "fear mongering." I'm only telling it as it is after possibly thousands of hours of research.
$cientology is fraudulent. It was started by Hubbard as a way to make money, or as he put it, "the best way to make a million dollars is to start your own religion," and by gawd, HE DID! What a coincidence!
Investigate the death of Lisa McPherson, where 2nd in command of $cn at one pt, Marty Rathbun, said to the SP Times that he ordered evidence in her case "be lost" & how $cn managed to have the criminal case be thrown out & got away w/ murder as sure as OJ did. Both lost the civil case
Check out these too:
Jenna Miscavige ($cn leader's niece) Why his own brother Ron Miscavige is no longer IN. Hubbard's son, Quentin & his wife Mary Sue
Also I personally don t have a problem with a religion any religion letting their good works be known. As a matter of fact I wish there was more positive things being "let known". I think the world would be a better place. Surely Open you can t have a problem with that?
We only have a problem with $cientology's & its leader, David *tiny fists of fury* Miscavige's abuses, injustices, human rights violations & crimes.
David Miscavige beats his upper mgmt staff & has them all locked up slaving away for the cult in a room called the "SP Hall," also referred to as "the Hole." He rules by verbal abuse, intimidation, humiliation & violence.
And $cientology scams its members or marks charging them hundreds of thousands of dollars for salvation.
And Open you are doing what to help the Haitian people? I missed that in your comments besides slamming those that are doing something. Nice work if you can get it.LOL
Despite appearances, $cientology's only there for PR & "photo op " opportunities. It's already been exposed in places like New Orleans, the tsunami in Indonesia & 911.
Its Volunteer Minister pgm is but another *front group* it uses to proselytize & gain adherents it then fleeces off their money.
$cn is a scam cult & a crime syndicate with fascist policies, intent on world domination, all rolled into one. It doesn't deliver what it promises & never will. It's all about the money.
celticross1, it is about the questionable motives of the organization that sent the Volunteer Ministers. Whenever a disaster strikes in the world, the Volunteer Ministers are there, flaunting their yellow jackets, yellow tents, Way to Happiness Pamphlets, and touch assists. There are times when they don't actually bring their own food, but take the food of other relief organizations.
Oh, and did I mention they are promoting a dangerous cult by taking advantage of the grief-stricken?
"Though aid agencies from other countries were not allowed to land, the plane got a slot right away—and though the Scientologists had nowhere to stay and nowhere to set up their touch healing tent, they got themselves on the UN list of approved NGOs and were allowed to set up on UN grounds. "But they had no one who spoke Creole, and they brought the weirdness of touch healing into a very superstitious society." They even caused medical hassles by feeding people who were scheduled for surgery."
I believe Open that as part of the group of Scientologists that went to Haiti were medical professionals and also i believe that tons of supplies were also airlifted into Haiti by Travolta. Anybody that does the slightest bit of research into this can see right through your obvious distortions. Hey Open you have heard the story of Chicken Little lol.
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To anonymous jdtrickster4- you are a walking dramatization of "hate" towards people of a different religion (than you). You have no real understanding of my religion and I can see that.
See what's happening in the Middle East? See why this country was founded on "freedom of religion"?
You really need to get a life rather than harass church volunteers who are out there providing REAL HELP to the people in Haiti and to many other countries around the world.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
Awesome. Isn't this what churches are for?
artneumann 2 years ago
The great majority approached DON'T join.-As $cn leader David Miscavige announced at an event designed to fleece the sheep, they'd "invited" 1,010,480,489 peoples of earth to the planetary clearing effort (from their battle cry: Clear the Planet) & there are less than 50k members worldwide: A 20,000:1 ratio; an utter rejection of $cientology. Of those who do, the vast majority leave in 1-2 yrs & only an infinitesimal # stay to fork over $1000s or 100s of 1000s to the cult for their "salvation."
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It doesn't matter how long one's been in. $cientology's was started -the SOURCE of all the Potential Trouble, really- 55 yrs ago by conman prevaricator & charlatan, L Ron Hubbard, a Pulp fiction (sci-fi & adventure, mostly) writer of the 50s who struck it with a popular self-help book: Dianetics, the Modern Science of Mental Help
He founded Scientology in 1954 but this "church" & SCIENCE's never accomplished even a fraction of its promises; such as Clear & OT. It's all a con, a scam & a fraud.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Its deluded members, adherents, or "marks," really, may be well intentioned -most are- but they're also brainwashed & indoctrinated into believing the LIES Hubbard told about himself, his past & his credentials.
He was not a Nuclear Physicist, Medical Dr. or a decorated WWII hero; as in point of fact, he never even saw any action & was discharged from the Navy for incompetency
He could never have healed himself of the injuries he claimed he did using Dianetics for he was NEVER INJURED, period.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago 4
$cientology's a scam that has been found guilty of "Organized Fraud" in France and is under investigation in many countries. It preys on the gullible & takes them on a ride up its bridge to nowhere using its bait n switch scheme of continuing FALSE PROMISES to help people attain "Higher States of Existence" and when these are not, they're sold more of the same: A Piece of Blue Sky, as Jon Atack's book title -excellent read on $cientology & its con founder, Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, btw.
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The Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps is a program of the Church of Scientology providing disaster relief and emergency response. Created more than 30 years ago by Scientology Founder L. Ron Hubbard, the program has expanded to 203,000 Volunteer Ministers worldwide who have served at 175 worst-case disaster sites, including Ground Zero after 9/11, the Southeast Asia tsunami, Hurricane Katrina and the Haiti earthquake disaster.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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THE AIMS OF SCIENTOLOGY:
"A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology."
by L.Ron Hubbard
AND THESE ARE THE AIMS OF ALL SCIENTOLOGISTS... as can be seen by their ever-present help in Haiti and many other worldwide disasters - WE'VE BEEN THERE!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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I've been a Scientologist for 42 YEARS and a Volunteer Minister for thirty. Below are my aims and every other Scientologist I know. The way we achieve these aims are through organizations which get people off drugs, help people better their ability to learn in school (or life), rehabilitate criminals that are in prison, stop psychiatrists from abusing people with drugs, ECT, or chemical lobotomies. And our volunteer ministers always help in any national or international disasters.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Help the volunteer teams in your area; the Red Cross, Church groups, church groups, military organizations, and celebritys who are helping.The more help there is up front, the faster we'll get this huge job done for the people of Haiti.
The Prime Minister of Haiti is welcoming and appreciative of all the help that volunteers are giving.
If you can't get down there, which many of us can't, contribute so that others will have the supplies and food they need to do the job.
Well done to all!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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I'm a Scientology Volunteer Minister and I've worked side by side with the Red Cross, Christian groups and others during the floods in California, and no one checks to see what church you go to when you're on the ground lending help to so many people. Everyone is extremely glad you're there with them. That's REALLY where it's at.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Scientology Volunteer ministers are there to help. As a Scientology VM I've worked side by the with the Red Cross and Christian groups during California floods. Believe me, in any disaster all help is valued and we all appreciate each other and work as a team.
Other than the Scientology volunteer ministers already in Haiti helping people prior to the earthquake, our church sent 2 more planeloads of medicos (80 plus doctors) nurses and volunteers.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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THE AIMS OF SCIENTOLOGY:
"A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology."
by L.Ron Hubbard
AND THESE ARE THE AIMS OF ALL SCIENTOLOGISTS... as can be seen by their ever-present help in Haiti and many other worldwide disasters - WE'VE BEEN THERE!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Scientology Volunteer Ministers Commended by Georgia Senate
Submitted by csinet on Mon, 2010-02-08 21:50
February 8, 2010
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Scientology Volunteer Ministers Commended by Georgia Senate
Submitted by csinet on Mon, 2010-02-08 21:50
February 8, 2010
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
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tinyurl(.)com/yeovn7y
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
I've been a Scientologist for 42 YEARS and a Volunteer Minister for thirty. Below are my aims and every other Scientologist I know. The way we achieve these aims are through organizations which get people off drugs, help people better their ability to learn in school (or life), rehabilitate criminals that are in prison, stop psychiatrists from abusing people with drugs, ECT, or chemical lobotomies. And our volunteer ministers always help in any national or international disasters.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
They may be YOUR aims, and as noble as they may be, they are NOT the aims of the PROVEN criminal, PROVEN lying, PROVEN membership manufacturing, PROVEN fraudulent, cult which you are a supporter of.
Do you believe the statement that 50% of psychiatrists sexually abuse their patients? Where are the veridiable docs for that?
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THE AIMS OF SCIENTOLOGY:
"A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology."
by L.Ron Hubbard
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
"Scientology... is not a religion"
L. Ron Hubbard.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 5
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To the anonymous hate mongers like opencomments:
No one believes your goofy little group hiding behind Halloween masks, or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members just because we are helping people and you won't help people.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
If you can't help others, you're lost.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
Would you like to debate Anonymous harassment vs. cult harassment, ridebikeovision? Believe me, I could bury you in overwhelming PROVEN, court documented data about your EVIL, HATEFUL, CRIMINAL, CULT harassing INNOCENT people. Of curse, you may well be under the impression that LEGAL PROTESTS come under hate crimes and harassment. Maybe Anonymous should dress up in Nazi uniforms and march down the street to protest as your cult did? Would that be better than wearing masks do you think?
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@TheEvilOfScientology
ooops - you are dramatizing the essence of "hate" towards we the people of a different religion (than you). A religion of which you have no real understanding. I'll put my 42 years of actual understanding of Scientology up against your "no understanding of it".
Don't you see what is happening in the Middle East? Don't you know why this country was founded on "freedom of religion"? You have no affinity for anyone in my religion and your aims are not honorable at all.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
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OpenComments is not a hate monger, you ignorant idiot. The ONLY group that has been officially labelled as a hate group is your criminally convicted, human rights abusing cult. Telling the truth is not hate mongering.
Apparently a VAST majority of the general public believe a lot of what Anonymous has to say about your proven criminally convicted cult and its proven criminally convicted founder.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
This video is old, but 2 new ones came out the last couple days about the 5th flight Scientologists were taking to Haiti with supplies and doctors who said they were happy to have the volunteers' help. It's great to see there are people who are so selfless as to put their lives on hold to do good, while others just sit home and criticize.
marquisartistic1 2 years ago
@marquisartistic1
I don't doubt that the Volunteer Ministers are selfless, I hope you understand that. In fact, Scientologists are well-meaning people that only want to imrpove themselves and the world.
The people that are NOT selfless are the ones within the corrupt management of the Church of Scientology. You don't see Tommy Davis, Kendrick Moxon, David Miscavige, or Heber Jentsch heading down there. Instead, they take advantage of good people and use the opportunity for PR.
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They've been helping for about a month now. Others have been hate-spamming for a month. I know who I respect.
008firefly 2 years ago
@008firefly
I'm sorry, but you can't say they've been helping when they keep getting in the way. The landing slots were supposed to be reserved for medical professionals and recognized volunteer organizations. You can't have unprepared and unskilled people go out and do a doctor's job.
The Volunteer Ministers were sent there by the Church of Scientology as a PR opportunity. In other words, they are taking advantage of an international tragedy to advertise Scientology to the rest of the world
OpenComments 2 years ago 2
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The Cult of Scientology loves disasters:
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The cult of Scientology responds:
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TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
This is what the Church of Scientology does:
- They con people out of thousands of dollars with bogus self improvement classes.
- Scientologists are told to shun people (even family members) who leave. Look up 'Suppressive Persons'.
- The Sea Org uses its members like slaves (they are not paid for their work) and people who disagree are locked up or
forcibly stopped from leaving.
- They use slander, harassment and stalking to attack those who outspokenly disagree with their 'religion'.
OpenComments 2 years ago 3
"One major survey of American religion shows Scientology declining in the U.S., however. The estimated number of Americans who identify as Scientologists rose from 45,000 in 1990 to 55,000 in 2001, then plummeted to 25,000 in 2008, according to the American Religion Identification Survey." - The Associated Press: Defections, court fights test Scientology, November 1 2009
OpenComments 2 years ago 3
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Scientology Volunteer Ministers Commended by Georgia Senate
Submitted by csinet on Mon, 2010-02-08 21:50
February 8, 2010
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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I'm a Scientology Volunteer Minister and I've worked side by side with the Red Cross, Christian groups and others during the floods in California, and no one checks to see what church you go to when you're on the ground lending help to so many people. Everyone is extremely glad you're there with them. That's REALLY where it's at.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
To the anonymous hate mongers like opencomments: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members just because we are helping people and you won't help people.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
If you can't help others, you're lost.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
@ridebikeovision
Consider this: If we really "hated" scientologists and wanted them to go to hell, we would not continue to get them OUT of scientology.
Word-clear all of that REALLY carefully, and you'll discover that there is no hate-mongering here.
If our communication skills are bad, then why do Scientologists run and hide behind curtains during every global protest? Hiding is low on the tone scale!
And when David Miscavige beats his staff, he causes engrams!
OpenComments 2 years ago
"The vital targets on which we must invest most of our time are:
T1. Depopularizing the enemy to a point of total obliteration.
T2. Taking over the control or allegiance of the heads or proprietors of all news media.
T3. Taking over the control or allegiance of key political figure.
T4. Taking over the control or allegiance of those who monitor international finance and shifting them to a less precarious finance standard."
- L Ron Hubbard, "TARGETS, DEFENSE" September 24, 1987
OpenComments 2 years ago
I've been a Scientologist for 42 YEARS and a Volunteer Minister for thirty. Below are my aims and every other Scientologist I know. The way we achieve these aims are through organizations which get people off drugs, help people better their ability to learn in school (or life), rehabilitate criminals that are in prison, stop psychiatrists from abusing people with drugs, ECT, or chemical lobotomies. And our volunteer ministers always help in any national or international disasters.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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THE AIMS OF SCIENTOLOGY:
"A civilization without insanity, without criminals and without war, where the able can prosper and honest beings can have rights, and where man is free to rise to greater heights, are the aims of Scientology."
by L.Ron Hubbard
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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The Scientology volunteer minister teams, in coordination with other relief organizations, are distributing water, food and medical supplies and providing a wide range of services to support the medical professionals.
A Scientology Volunteer Minister who is a certified midwife has delivered two babies in Port-au-Prince. Others are providing trauma relief and grief counseling to relief workers and survivors of the quake.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Scientology Volunteer Ministers Commended by Georgia Senate
Submitted by csinet on Mon, 2010-02-08 21:50
February 8, 2010
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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'm a Scientology Volunteer Minister and I've worked side by side with the Red Cross, Christian groups and others during the floods in California, and no one checks to see what church you go to when you're on the ground lending help to so many people. Everyone is extremely glad you're there with them. That's REALLY where it's at.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Scientology Volunteer ministers are there to help. As a Scientology VM I've worked side by the with the Red Cross and Christian groups during California floods. Believe me, in any disaster all help is valued and we all appreciate each other and work as a team.
Other than the Scientology volunteer ministers already in Haiti helping people prior to the earthquake, our church sent 2 more planeloads of medicos (80 plus doctors) nurses and volunteers.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
GREAT WORK, EVERYONE!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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To the anonymous hate mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
If you can't help others, you're lost.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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The Haitians themselves have stated over and over again in news reports on TV and various periodicals how they're extremely appreciative for the Scientology Volunteer Minister groups helpfulness.
Volunteer Ministers have trained and partnered with more than 800 different groups, organizations and agencies including the Red Cross, FEMA, the National Guard, and many others.
The Volunteer Ministers Corps motto is "Something can be done about it".
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
GREAT WORK, EVERYONE!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
Help the volunteer teams in your area; the Red Cross, Church groups, the military organizations, celebrity groups who are helping.The more help up front, the faster we'll get this huge job done.
The Prime Minister of Haiti is welcoming and appreciative of all the help that volunteers are giving.
If you can't get down there and help which many of us can't, contribute so that others we'll have the supplies or food they need to do the job.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Scientology Volunteer Ministers Commended by Georgia Senate
Submitted by csinet on Mon, 2010-02-08 21:50
February 8, 2010
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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To the anonymous hate mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
If you can't help others, you're lost.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Scientology Volunteer ministers are there to help. As a Scientology VM I've worked side by the with the Red Cross and Christian groups during California floods. Believe me, in any disaster all help is valued and we all appreciate each other and work as a team.
Other than the Scientology volunteer ministers already in Haiti helping people prior to the earthquake, our church sent 2 more planeloads of medicos (80 plus doctors) nurses and volunteers.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
GREAT WORK, EVERYONE!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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To the anonymous hate mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
Whose in trouble exactly, ridebikeovision? Would you like you grow some and lets compare PROVEN Scientology crimes and criminals compared with Anonymous ones? Take a look at the list of cult and cult victim crimes on my profile. I'll be happy to point you to sources for each and every one of them, L. Ron Hubbard's own criminal convictions and 5 year jail sentence included.
Most problems in life can be traced to undesirable, clueless idiots, your good self included.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 3
The Cult of Scientology has sent Vulture Ministers to Haiti for one single purpose; PROFIT. The space cult profits from death, misery, and uncertainty. It's what cults do. The only thing that separates Scientology from your run-of-the-mill cults is the sheer size that it has been allowed to grow. Thankfully Scientology is now starting to become a non-entity, and it won't be long until Scientology is practised only by a few die hard nutters on the fringes of society.
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago 3
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The Cult of Scientology loves disasters:
tinyurl(.)com/yhchhyw
The cult of Scientology responds:
tinyurl(.)com/yfdfmym
TheEvilOfScientology 2 years ago
NED for OTs Series 31 -- THE THETAN HAND TECHNIQUE
"Theres another process of getting rid of BTs and clusters. It is not always that magnificient but it is sometimes functional. What you do is mock up a thetan hand and using the edge of it as a sort of knife, you pass it between the body and black masses and sever them off. These masses are attached to the body by strings or lines or suction cups or beams..."
For $500,000 you can read the rest of this!
OpenComments 2 years ago
This has nothing to do with beliefs, but rather the abusive practices of Scientology. Women should not be forced to abort their children so that they can continue to work slave labor in the Sea Org. Children should not be separated from their parents for months at a time. People who displease David Miscavige should not be banished to Scientology's "rehabilitation camp" where the fences have inward facing spikes.
OpenComments 2 years ago
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Help the volunteer teams in your area; the Red Cross, Church groups, the military organizations, celebrity groups who are helping.The more help up front, the faster we'll get this huge job done.
The Prime Minister of Haiti is welcoming and appreciative of all the help that volunteers are giving.
If you can't get down there and help which many of us can't, contribute so that others we'll have the supplies or food they need to do the job.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Scientology Volunteer Ministers Commended by Georgia Senate
Submitted by csinet on Mon, 2010-02-08 21:50
February 8, 2010
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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To the anonymous hate mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
If you can't help others, you're lost.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
The Haitians themselves have stated over and over again in news reports on TV and various periodicals how they're extremely appreciative for our Scientology Volunteer Ministers groups help.
Volunteer Ministers have trained and partnered with more than 800 different groups, organizations and agencies including the Red Cross, FEMA, the National Guard, and many others.
The Volunteer Ministers Corps motto is Something can be done about it.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
GREAT WORK, EVERYONE!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
Scientology not only tolerates lying but actually presents formal training in the subject:
"Purpose: To train the student to give a false statement with good TR-1. To train the student to outflow false data effectively. The student should be coached on a gradient until he/she can lie facilely."
-L. Ron Hubbard, Intelligence Specialist Training RoutineLying (TR-L)
When ridebikeovision makes statements like how the Haitians say how appreciative they are - this is a lie. A trained liar.
OpenComments 2 years ago 3
"The action of bringing about a pro-Scientology government consists of making a friend of the most highly placed government person one can reach, even placing Scientologists in domestic and clerical posts close to him and seeing to it that Scientology resolves his troubles and case."
(Hubbard, "Department of Official Affairs", HCO Policy Letter of 13 March 1961)
Google "Operation Snow White"
OpenComments 2 years ago 2
Mary Jo Leavitt and Sherry Katz, ex OT 8, left Scientology.
OpenComments 2 years ago
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Scientology Volunteer Ministers Commended by Georgia Senate
Submitted by csinet on Mon, 2010-02-08 21:50
February 8, 2010
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Help the volunteer teams in your area; the Red Cross, Church groups, the military organizations, celebrity groups who are helping.The more help up front, the faster we'll get this huge job done.
The Prime Minister of Haiti is welcoming and appreciative of all the help that volunteers are giving.
If you can't get down there and help which many of us can't, contribute so that others we'll have the supplies or food they need to do the job.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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Scientology Volunteer ministers are there to help. As a Scientology VM I've worked side by the with the Red Cross and Christian groups during California floods. Believe me, in any disaster all help is valued and we all appreciate each other and work as a team.
Other than the Scientology volunteer ministers already in Haiti helping people prior to the earthquake, our church sent 2 more planeloads of medicos (80 plus doctors) nurses and volunteers.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
GREAT WORK, EVERYONE!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
The Haitians themselves have stated over and over again in news reports on TV and various periodicals how they're extremely appreciative for our Scientology Volunteer Ministers groups help.
Volunteer Ministers have trained and partnered with more than 800 different groups, organizations and agencies including the Red Cross, FEMA, the National Guard, and many others.
The Volunteer Ministers Corps motto is Something can be done about it.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
GREAT WORK, EVERYONE!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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To the anonymous hate mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hidden behind Halloween masks or internet, skulking and trying to harass our church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble.
If you can't help others, you're lost.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
Two former employees who worked more than a decade at the Church of Scientologys Golden Era Productions enclave near Hemet have filed lawsuits alleging the church violated federal and state labor laws and engaged in human trafficking.
Marc and Claire Headley claim they were paid less than 50 cents an hour and forced to work more than 100 hours a week. They claim they never received overtime pay and were required to sign documents under duress acknowledging they had forfeited their rights.
OpenComments 2 years ago
$CIENTOLOGY, the ONLY "religion?" which sees peaceful protesters carrying signs as "terrorists" & a natural disaster and human suffering, as "a business opportunity."
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Hey jd.
Isn't it great that Jan Hunter is an OT-3 yet is forbidden to talk about Xenu, but we wogs are NOT OT-3 and can talk about Xenu all we like? It's GREAT to *not* be in a sinister, manipulative, controlling, lying unethical organization such as the Church of Scientology, isn't it?
Tory Christman and many other Scientologists once regretted the effects of being out of Scientology ... and now, they enjoy it. The freedom.
OpenComments 2 years ago
You'd think Jan & his wife, Liz would find it ODD a "church" that harps on so much about Freedom & Communication would have so many secrets, so much mystery & so little of either.
This is right out of Orwell's "1984," where the "Ministry of Truth," or Minitru, was where the past, present & future were altered & the LIES created -a la David Miscavige's alteration of the TACK! ;-D
Where the "Minisitry of Love" or Miniluv exacted its punishment, a la RPF, etc.
Little brother's watching ya! ;-D
jdtrickster4 2 years ago 2
@OpenComments
Of course, WE ALL KNOW...cuz L. Ron Hubbard told us, you and I will probably die of pneumonia now that we've read this super-secret confidential material, OC. We are DOOMED! ;-D
My only consolation comes from the fact that as the NY Times stated: So far, NO EPIDEMIC has been reported !! ;-D
I wonder if these "OT Levels" are confidential and secret cause it would be bad for INCOME if people knew of them ahead of time before they "signed up," OC? What do u think, brother OC? :)
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Hey jd, ridebikeovision has been a Scientologist for over 42 years. L. Ron Hubbard must be rolling in his grave considering how many people have fallen for his scam of a religion. I mean, he was a bigamist, a drug addict, heck, he even died with a psych drug (Vistaril) in his system! Yet his crime syndicate continues, and people like ridebikeovision are complicit in Scientology's crimes.
David Miscavige still beats his staff!
OpenComments 2 years ago
@jdtrickster4
Yeah, those OT levels are confidential and secret because it would certain mess with income. Income being the key word - if Scientology depended on income, that would make it a business, and not a non-profit organization.
Scientology ruins families.
KSW is gone - it is all David Miscavige now.
To force Scientologists to buy and rebuy a book four times over, each time slightly edited? Scientology is a money making scam, people!
OpenComments 2 years ago
From askthescientologist. blogspot. com
Sunday, January 24, 2010
"The Church of Scientology Loves Disasters"
This really is the most disgusting thing I've seen recently about the Church of Scientology: Their reaction to the Haiti earthquake.
The actions of the Church of Scientology are despicable, in the extreme.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
The Church of Scientology provides no money towards the victims in Haiti. None. Not one penny. The church supplies no food, no water, no medicine, no building materials, no personnel, no expertise, nothing for Haiti.
But they claim, in their press releases, that their Volunteer Ministers are "a major relief agency" helping in Haiti. If they do nothing, how can they claim this?
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
John Travolta supplied an airplane, not the church. Individual Scientologists volunteered to go using their own money. As usual, the Church of Scientology did nothing.
Along with a few untrained Scientology "Volunteer Ministers" Travolta offered a lift to health-care workers from the Association of Haitian Physicians Abroad and from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Those other non-Scientology groups were sending trained medical personnel and the Scientologists were completely untrained. And yet, in a most disgusting bit of lying, the Church of Scientology is actually claiming they sent the medical personnel!
As is usual, the Church of Scientology volunteers showed up at the disaster without food, without medicine, without supplies, without equipment, without shelter, without expertise -- so they are a burden on resources already stretched very, very thin
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
As is usual, the Volunteer Ministers make the situation worse by requiring food and shelter that should be going to the victims!
But they have bright yellow t shirts that show up well for the Church of Scientology photographer! Yes, while the Volunteer Ministers are useless to real relief agencies, they are very useful to the Church of Scientology's PR department.
But, as disgusting as all this is, the Church of Scientology's response to this disaster is much, much worse.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
The Church of Scientology is officially urging all Scientologists to "help Haiti by giving to the IAS (International Association of Scientologists)" Not to any legitimate relief agency. No, Scientologists must help Haiti by "giving to the IAS".
And the IAS has not ever given a penny to any disaster relief effort. The IAS will never give a penny to any disaster relief. The money goes to David Miscavige. Period. Last I checked, David Miscavige wasn't in Haiti and didn't need any assistance.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Yes, the Church of Scientology is using the Haiti disaster to make money! They are profiting on human suffering!
But wait, there is more!
Bridge Publications, the publisher of Scientology books, is urging Scientologists to buy Scientology books to "send to Haiti"! Scientologists are not being urged to pay for food or water or medicine or shelter for Haiti. No, they are being urged to pay for Scientology books to Haiti!
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
But get this: Bridge Publications is charging full price for these donated books, meaning Bridge Publications is making full profit on all the books. They are profiting on human suffering!
Further, judging by how Bridge Publications handles donated books (Library Program, Mission Starter Program), those donated books will never be shipped. Of course the books are useless to Haitians, but it is highly likely that Bridge Publications will simply keep all the money. Profit!
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Yes, the Church of Scientology has reacted quickly and decisively on the Haitian disaster -- they are making millions of dollars of profit, generating many nice press releases for the church, without having to spend a single penny, nor actually help anyone.
All decent people, including Scientologists, should add their voice to absolutely condemn the Church of Scientology for their disgusting greed in the face of such human suffering.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
This past week the first Scientology Volunteer Minister teams from Mexico, Russia and the United Kingdom arrived and replaced some of the American volunteer units who had been there for the last three weeks.
In total more than 12,200 people were reached with help this week, including 4,674 served with food and water, and care given to about 2,300 injured people.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
The Haitians themselves have stated over and over again in news reports on TV and various periodicals how they're extremely appreciative of our Scientology Volunteer Ministers groups. Volunteer Ministers have trained and partnered with more than 800 different groups, organizations and agencies including the Red Cross, FEMA, the National Guard, and many others.
The Volunteer Ministers Corps motto is Something can be done about it.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
Scientology Volunteer ministers are there to help. As a Scientology VM I've worked side by the with the Red Cross and Christian groups during California floods. Believe me, in any disaster all help is valued and we all appreciate each other and work as a team.
Other than the Scientology volunteer ministers already in Haiti helping people prior to the earthquake, our church sent 2 more planeloads of medicos (80 plus doctors) nurses and volunteers.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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The Disaster Relief Effort in Haiti is a global activity. Besides the Scientology Volunteer Ministers, there are people and organizations from all over the world working side by side to save the people of Haiti--volunteers, doctors, nurses, military and religious people. It didn't matter who you were or where you came from before you got to Haiti, while in Haiti you were part of a united team.
GREAT WORK, EVERYONE!
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Scientology Volunteer Ministers Commended by Georgia Senate
Submitted by csinet on Mon, 2010-02-08 21:50
February 8, 2010
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
HOORAY FOR ALL THE SCIENTOLOGY VOLUNTEER MINISTERS AND JOBS WELL DONE!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
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To hate-mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hiding behind Halloween masks and the internet, skulking around and trying to harass church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills and it's apparent that your pathetic group revels in bad communication. MOST likely why you're in trouble in the first place.
If you can't help others, you're lost.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
Scientology Volunteer Ministers Commended by Georgia Senate
Submitted by csinet on Mon, 2010-02-08 21:50
February 8, 2010
Today the Scientology Volunteer Ministers Corps was recognized by the Georgia Senate for their Haiti disaster response actions! Georgia Senate Resolution 998, passed on February 8, 2010, states:
10 LC 94 2070
Senate Resolution 998
By: Senators James of the 35th, Tate of the 38th and Seay of the 34th
HOORAY FOR ALL THE SCIENTOLOGY VOLUNTEER MINISTERS AND JOBS WELL DONE!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
You need to find out the good, the bad & the ugly w/ regards to $cientology, called the Cult of Greed & Power by Richard Behard's Time Magazine article; not just the flowery language & PR in the cult's propaganda websites
$cientology, at its core, is a crime syndicate & its policies & ways fascistic & retrograde. If it had its way, all civilizing, modern western concepts of freedom & justice would cease & we'd enter into an Orwellian barbarism I'd not wish upon my worst enemy
Peace!
And Love!
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
"He punched me in the face at least ten times and my glasses fell off, I was thrown up against a desk unit, a counter top, and that was the moment right then when I realized I could go no further down than this, to be beaten by the leader [David Miscavige] of my so-called church." - Marc Headley, ex-Scientologist and former Executive Producer at Golden Era Production (production company owned by Scientology), Glosslip April 27, 2008
OpenComments 2 years ago
Open and JD are paid shills monitoring this website . Hope you guys are getting well paid. Game over for me. My religion is Pentecostal and I have discernment and you 2 are just plain evil.
celticross1 2 years ago
@celticross1
There is nothing evil about caring that Scientology policies break up families. Ida Camburn hasn't seen her son for 30 years ... all because Scientology will declare him a PTS (potential trouble source) if he sees her. Do you have any idea how sad it would be, that the very person she gave birth to can't and won't see her?
If evil means opposing Scientology's policies of disconnection and tactics to intimidate/harass critics, then you must word-clear evil.
OpenComments 2 years ago
@celticross1
Sorry about your theory, celt. I'm not paid a cent. It's a labor of love. If u're truly Pentecostal find the $cientology OT8 (its highest level available or released to "the public" - what $cientology calls its parishioners or "marks") document by L Ron Hubbard & read what he had to say about Christ.
I'll give u a taste:
Hubbard says Christ was not the sainted figure he was made out to be; that this was only Marcabian PR & he was prone to fits of anger & was a lover of young boys
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
@celticross1
In another document -OT3 or Level III OT- (Operating Thetan which if u say it with a lisp it comes out Saetan) he says Marcabian evil intergalactic overlord Xenu exterminated entire populations in his "empire" 75 million yrs ago by bringing over a trillion of "his people" to earth, then known as Teegeeack &exploding them in volcanoes (the reason 4 the volcano in every cover of Dianetics) then hypnotized them by electronic "implants" &brainwashed them to believe in God, Christ, etc.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
cont'd
Since these disembodied dead space aliens inhabit the bodies of current humanity, it is for this reason that WE believe in God, Christ, Mohamed, etc.
You can listen to Ron in his unmistakable voice on YT for yourself, courtesy of EX-Scientologists who WOKE UP to realize the insanity of this "madman messiah" who claimed $cientology was THE ONLY HOPE FOR MAN & aimed -as David Miscavige & all $cientologists do today- to clear the planet.
Finally, why isn't ridebikeovision a "paid shill?"
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
@celticross1
Are u taking $cientology courses or receiving "auditing?" This is how they reel you in & "love bomb" ya in the beginning.
You say u're Pentecostal but u can be both at least when u 1st start in $cientology. Are u a $cieno, yes or no?
If you're not, then I'm sorry to say you have ZERO discernment. Moreover, you don't know what $cientology is. As I pointed out already, Hubbard says ALL religions, incl Christianity are electronic implants & Christ nothing but a Marcazbian "plant."
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Scientology abuses its members working them 70-130 hrs a wk for slave wages of 40 cents an hr -10 cents an hr if they're so unlucky to need "rehabilitation" in one of its gulags or concentration camps.
Children are abused as child slave labor & young women are either coaxed or coerced into getting abortions. It breaks up families & harasses its critics.
It is a fascist totalitarian organization operating above the law as nothing is as important as Clearing the Planet (taking over the world).
OpenComments 2 years ago
Scientology receiving good press is really driving you crazy! Spewing out your hate like a rabid dog. I m starting to really appreciate Scientology now that I see what the opposition is like.
celticross1 2 years ago
@celticross1
Join the Sea Org and sign up for the Gold Base to see what a nice guy David Miscavige is, celt. LOL
Don't forget to salute his pet beagle. The little pooch wears a captain's uniform complete with a cptn's regalia and all Sea Org members MUST salute the pet.
Oh and if *it* barks at you, it means you have "overts" or are "out-ethics." It could even send u to the RPF (Rehabilitation Project Force) ;-D
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
@celticross1
"David Miscavige beats his staff" , "Scientology breaks up families" , and "Scientology forces women to have abortions in the Sea Org" is not hate, though. What "hate" are you talking about?
If it's bigotry to disapprove of criminal activity in a religion, why didn't the Catholics accuse the people who accused them of being child molesters of hate crimes? Isn't that the same thing?
OpenComments 2 years ago
@celticross1
Btw, $cientology receives little "good press" these days. Actually, it NEVER did, but these days, even less. As more & more people find out about the cult / crime syndicate, they'll see what a few ex critics -who dared to speak out against all odds & OSA's (Office of Special Affairs) "Fair Game" criminal & above the law tactics & ANONYMOUS have been saying.
But $cientology's worst enemy -besides David Miscavige- is THE TRUTH being spread thru the internet: $cientology's Waterloo
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
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To hate-mongers: No one believes your goofy little group hiding behind Halloween masks, skulking around and trying to harass church members.
Problems one encounters in life are often due to lack of communication skills. It is very apparent that your pathetic little group revels in bad communication and is MOST likely why you're in trouble in the first place.
If you can't help others, you're lost.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
John Duignan, a top scientologist who escaped Scientology has given the most explosive insight yet into the shady celebrity religion. For John, it cost him everything and everyone he held dear after he became a leading figure in the church's British branch.
John says he was so brainwashed that he would have killed for Scientology. And he claims another member was driven to a suicide bid when she was rehabilitated after trying to leave. John tells of his nightmare in his book, "The Complex".
OpenComments 2 years ago
The Volunteer Minister program most heavily promoted by Scientology took place in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks. Critics of Scientology accused the organization of attempting to take advantage of the disaster in order to promote Scientology to the grief-stricken populace in the area. An intercepted email from a Sea Org "Lieutenant" brags of a deliberate plan to prevent the grief-stricken from receiving counseling from psychiatrists.
OpenComments 2 years ago
Having used Scientology for 42 years to help others as a Scientology Volunteer Minister or achieve their goals in life, I know Scientology works and works well. It's very rewarding work and the Prime Minister himself to many, many Haitians have repeatedly praised the help from Scientology VMs.
GOOD GOING TEAM!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
In 2001, more than 800 Scientology Volunteer Ministers responded to the World Trade Center disaster and provided spiritual and practical aid to emergency workers for many weeks. They have also been an integral part of rescue and salvage efforts at the sites of hurricanes, floods, earthquakes and fires.
THANK YOU FOR NOW HELPING IN HAITI!
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
More than 500 Scientology Volunteer Ministers from 11 nations served in relief efforts in Southeast Asia, India and Sri Lanka in 2004 after the Tsunami. Their work was reported on by international media including CNN, The Economist, Washington Post and the Wall Street Journal.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
Volunteer Ministers have trained and partnered with more than 800 different groups, organizations and agencies including the Red Cross, FEMA, the National Guard, and police and fire departments aand are active members of VOAD (Volunteer Organizations Active in Disasters. The Volunteer Ministers Corps motto is Something can be done about it.
ridebikeovision 2 years ago
P.S. Loved the Scientology commercials!!!!!!!!! I want to check out more for myself. Beats the hell out of listening fear-mongering idiots here. Gentlemen I bid you a good day. Ciao
celticross1 2 years ago
@celticross1
Oh those commercials and their entire propaganda is beautiful, indeed. They're meant to attract the gullible idiots who fal for them. ;-D
I see a future in $cientology for ya. Oh and the whole thing will run ya a mere half a million dollars. IF u don't make or they high-pressure ya into making a lot of straight "DONATIONS/"
Don't let the door slam you in the reactive behind on your way out. L0L
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
It was a $ciloon pretending to be an "impartial observer," wasn't it, guys...
I gave celticross1 the benefit of the doubt but "Loved the Scientology commercials!!!!!!!!!" totally gave it away. ;-D
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
@jdtrickster4
Totally. One major indicator of a Scientologist: they start their sentence off with "I'm not a Scientologist, but ..."
Ever wonder why the Church of Scientology own so many empty buildings? Or why is there so much alter-is in the current text, from what L. Ron Hubbard originally wrote? I also wonder why there is such a focus by the current management on stats and money? These are questions Scientologists should ask themselves.
OpenComments 2 years ago
OC
A tax shelter or a "getaway fund" for the tiny dictator David "Slappy" Miscavige or BOTH!
A lot of what Miscavige has altered or totally deleted is stuff that would give away all he's been doing & implementing in the *new* Golden Age of Tack "Church of Miscavology"
For ex those quotes you use from Hubbard from tape 20 of the PDC tapes seem to point squarely at Miscavige; as if Ron was speaking to him from the grave. Other changes may just be for PR reasons for da ole conman had a BiG mouth
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
@jdtrickster4
LOL, ridebikovision's comments are being marked as SPAM. Remember those good old days when alt religion Scientology would have sporgery, to try and bury comments? It's FAILING on YouTube!
SCIENTOLOGY is a CRIMINAL MIND CONTROL MONEY CULT that was FABRICATED by a penniless, drug addicted wife beating tax cheater named L. Ron Hubbard and is now run by a violent alcoholic dwarf named DAVID MISCAVIGE, whom apparently beats his staff and humiliates people for his own amusement.
OpenComments 2 years ago
@OpenComments
Well said, brother OC. Those days are gone & the internet is & will cont. to be $cientology's Waterloo.
Hubbard was, indeed, as Judge Breckenridge said in the Gerry Armstrong vs the CoS of CA trial, a paranoid schizophrenic pathological liar & his organization, $cientology, a reflection of his demented personality.
David Miscavige is an abusive opportunistic sociopath who saw his opportunity for a coup & may have been indirectly involved in Hubbard's death
scientology-cult. com
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
To wake up one day only to realize u've been led down the garden path & coldly hoodwinked or bamboozled by a trusted person or group is not an easy thing to face up to. It takes a lot of, as a Scientologist might say, CONFRONT.
So I understand when a Scientologist's reluctant to own up to or admit -if only to themselves- they've been had; that they've been DECEIVED by, again, the ONLY HOPE FOR MANKIND, the "greatest good for the greatest number" & by something as crude as a confidence game.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
jd: EXACTLY! You don't get much cold/harder facts than listening o the story Scientology vehemently denies ... IN HUBBARD'S OWN VOICE! I mean listen to this!
watch?v=T7EEOMbBIO8
For major spokespersons to deny the story of Xenu just because it's embarassing, that's wrong. And to tell its members not to read it because if you read it being unprepared, you will get sick of pneumonia and die - that's dishonest, too!
OpenComments 2 years ago
OT Levels:
Section III OT = OT3 = Incident II. 75 million years ago Xenu commits mass extermination, drops bodies in volcanoes on earth, souls are subjected to 36 days of hypnotic implants which then attach to humans. OT3 is all about auditing out these body thetans.
OT4 = more body thetans and drugs
OT5 = even more body thetans and NOTs
OT6 = how to really audit body thetans out this time
OT7 = apply what you learned in OT6
OT8 = a review of above. Not successful? Start all over again!
OpenComments 2 years ago
It always reminds me of what ex-Scientologist and critic Arnie Lerma says:
The TRUE Wall of Fire: DECEPTION!!!
Imagine being betrayed by your best friend or business partner.
Think of how painful it would be to be deceived by the one you love; your girlfriend or own wife who you are convinced loves & is loyal to you.
Transfer this same loyalty, devotion &HOPE one mistakenly & quite costly places on a "belief system" you think will SAVE ALL MANKIND; only to be crassly deceived.. & FOR MONEY!
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
JD I just totally dicredited you as a reliable person. You are paranoid to the point of being delusional. Don t look now but I think the Martians are outside your door.LOL . I m off now to see if I can get better information on the Scientology website.
celticross1 2 years ago
@celticross1
And just how did u totally discredit me? I missed that. Was it by making an assertion of your own? A false one at that.
Making claims I'm paranoid & delusional do not a truth make, sir. And trying to get "better info" on Scientology's own website is like, would be like a citizen of Oceania -ever read Orwell's "1984?"- trying to get better info from "Minitru" (The Ministry of Truth, where the past was constantly changed to suit the party/ party line & the present & future created)
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
@jdtrickster4
Yes, I missed the part where celticrosss1 totally discredited you too. It must be a reality that he mocked up himself. After all, by Scientology's pseudo-philosophy, 2 + 2 = whatever you want it to be, wouldn't you say? "What's true for you is true for you"?
Saying that Scientology's website has better info on Scientology is like saying a drug dealer has better info on drugs - a totally biased and obviously slanted opinion.
OpenComments 2 years ago
Maybe I was wrong, OC. Perhaps celtic IS yet another deluded $cientologist in denial who even when faced with cold hard facts his cult / crime syndicate, really is fraudulent &abusing its own people financially, mentally, physically & spiritually by lying, conning & deceiving them & I'm afraid, KNOWINGLY so, CANNOT face up to it.
This is what I find most deplorable about $cientology, for I'd be willing to make ANY sacrifice IF $cientology did indeed deliver what it promises but it does not.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
@celticross1
Check out "The Truth Rundown. org" by the St Petersburg Times, an award & Pulitzer prize winning paper, who is or would be an independent unbiased source, rather than $cn's own website which will say as they did in Orwell's 1984's "Oceania:"
Oceania's armies are marching on. East Asia (their archenemy) is being defeated at every turn...(switching to Ron's $cientology) We are achieving our aims, the Sun NEVER sets on Scientology. We are CLEARING THE PLANET. Hep! Hep! Hooray! ;-D
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
By all means, get your "info" from the $cientology website-it's totally non-biased!
And speaking of Martians, it was L Ron Hubbard who believed they were coming. In fact your body is infested with them and $cientology can get rid of them for the low, low price of $300,000!
$cientology-the only "religion" that considers a natural disaster a business opportunity.
cultssuck 2 years ago
@cultssuck
LMAO
I couldn't have said it better, myself. ;-D
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
@cultssuck
So true, CS. Not much difference even in the spelling from Martian to Marcabian. ;-D
Hubbard must have been riding a "cab" when he thought this one up. And he used it to a T... or was it in place of the T? L0L
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Hey jd ever hear of the judicial system, they exist to convict criminals. If you have evidence prove it. If not quit throwing unprovable accusations around. Your fear-mongering might upset some people but facts are all I'm interested in. I will research all of your claims by checking out both sides but your generalized fear-mongering are points against you.
celticross1 2 years ago
Hey celt, that's only a smokescreen & a red herring. Many $cientologists have gone to jail already. Reed Slatkin,14 yrs for his Ponzi scheme embezzlement of half a billion dollars. He was co-founder of earthlink with "Delphian" Sky Dayton, bamboozled by Reed, himself.
There's OT7 Rex Fowler, who shot to death his WOG employee for threatening to hire a lawyer to expose him as a crook taking money fr the co. to "donate" to $cientology.
Then there's the FRAUD conviction in France, to name a few.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
@celticross1
I'll presume you're not a Scientologist - most of whom are good people, if only highly deluded & in many cases brainwashed but I'd do my fact checking research b4 u accused me of "fear mongering." I'm only telling it as it is after possibly thousands of hours of research.
$cientology is fraudulent. It was started by Hubbard as a way to make money, or as he put it, "the best way to make a million dollars is to start your own religion," and by gawd, HE DID! What a coincidence!
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
@celticross1
Here's a few pointers:
Investigate the death of Lisa McPherson, where 2nd in command of $cn at one pt, Marty Rathbun, said to the SP Times that he ordered evidence in her case "be lost" & how $cn managed to have the criminal case be thrown out & got away w/ murder as sure as OJ did. Both lost the civil case
Check out these too:
Jenna Miscavige ($cn leader's niece) Why his own brother Ron Miscavige is no longer IN. Hubbard's son, Quentin & his wife Mary Sue
scientology-cult. com
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
Also I personally don t have a problem with a religion any religion letting their good works be known. As a matter of fact I wish there was more positive things being "let known". I think the world would be a better place. Surely Open you can t have a problem with that?
celticross1 2 years ago
@celticross1
We only have a problem with $cientology's & its leader, David *tiny fists of fury* Miscavige's abuses, injustices, human rights violations & crimes.
David Miscavige beats his upper mgmt staff & has them all locked up slaving away for the cult in a room called the "SP Hall," also referred to as "the Hole." He rules by verbal abuse, intimidation, humiliation & violence.
And $cientology scams its members or marks charging them hundreds of thousands of dollars for salvation.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
And Open you are doing what to help the Haitian people? I missed that in your comments besides slamming those that are doing something. Nice work if you can get it.LOL
celticross1 2 years ago
@celticross1
Despite appearances, $cientology's only there for PR & "photo op " opportunities. It's already been exposed in places like New Orleans, the tsunami in Indonesia & 911.
Its Volunteer Minister pgm is but another *front group* it uses to proselytize & gain adherents it then fleeces off their money.
$cn is a scam cult & a crime syndicate with fascist policies, intent on world domination, all rolled into one. It doesn't deliver what it promises & never will. It's all about the money.
jdtrickster4 2 years ago
celticross1, it is about the questionable motives of the organization that sent the Volunteer Ministers. Whenever a disaster strikes in the world, the Volunteer Ministers are there, flaunting their yellow jackets, yellow tents, Way to Happiness Pamphlets, and touch assists. There are times when they don't actually bring their own food, but take the food of other relief organizations.
Oh, and did I mention they are promoting a dangerous cult by taking advantage of the grief-stricken?
OpenComments 2 years ago
"Though aid agencies from other countries were not allowed to land, the plane got a slot right away—and though the Scientologists had nowhere to stay and nowhere to set up their touch healing tent, they got themselves on the UN list of approved NGOs and were allowed to set up on UN grounds. "But they had no one who spoke Creole, and they brought the weirdness of touch healing into a very superstitious society." They even caused medical hassles by feeding people who were scheduled for surgery."
OpenComments 2 years ago
I believe Open that as part of the group of Scientologists that went to Haiti were medical professionals and also i believe that tons of supplies were also airlifted into Haiti by Travolta. Anybody that does the slightest bit of research into this can see right through your obvious distortions. Hey Open you have heard the story of Chicken Little lol.
celticross1 2 years ago