Creflo Dollar Says Church NOT For Getting The Word! Defends Eddie Long AGAIN!

[TheRealHousewifeOfPG]

I am praying for Pastors Creflo Dollar, Bishop Eddie Long and pastors and churches everywhere. No one is falsely judging anyone when we bring the following scripture to light for your edification as well as that of the body of Christ Revelation 21:8

New King James Version (NKJV)

8 But the cowardly, unbelieving,[a] abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

[sozigler]

Keep up the great work.

God is exposing one by one.

[narrowayer]

Absolute foolishness, totally ignoring the teachings of Christ himself. Pastors are suppose to have a heart for serving God's people, not expect to be served. Christ set the example himself when he came not to be served but to serve, to the point where he laid down his life. Pastors like Creflo don't want to lay down their lives, they want the riches of this world and all it has to offer. A reproach the body of Christ!

[Troubletube1]

I think Creflo Dollar is short for Creating a Flow of Dollars.

[TheRealHousewifeOfPG]

@Troubletube1 Point well taken. My family and I also thought the name (Creflo Dollar) is probably not his original name; but rather an acronym that means something in regard to seeking money. I am praying for him daily.

[IndyRD1]

What is the "radical" message? WOF is in damage control. What Creflo says is so twisted on many levels. Few clap in response to his hyped message. Many know that much of his teaching is wrong, but because of pride, remain under his leadership. Imagine the pressure of claiming these beliefs to all your family & friends, then having to admit it was wrong? These ppl are looking for an escape & don’t know which way to turn. I was once trapped by this False Gospel Spell. Pray for eyes to be opened.

[redbonegal]

What creeps me out about preachers like Creflo Dollar and Eddie Long is that they literally tell the members that they are stealing from them, and they stay in the church and keep giving them EVEN MORE MONEY. He just said verbatim " you dont come here to get fed the word. You are here to help me and Taffi fulfill this vision here on earth". That vision is use the members money to become multi-millionaires. Wake up people!! He is literally telling you what he is doing!!

[anthonyJ0HNS0N]

@NYTNinAmerica sorry for the late reply, anywho, when word of faith ppl realy got momentum back in the 80s they messed up cuz they werent doing things proper. First ppl need to deal with their hearts. Here is a link to my Church website's audio sermon titled "no such thing as lack", it is a comprehensive breakdown of the prosperity teaching as taught by the word of God. I challenge you to give it an honest listen, entirely, and then tell me that God doesnt want His ppl to prosper.

[anthonyJ0HNS0N]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N much respect and Love from your brother in Christ,

anthony

victoryinternational.ca/audio-­player/series-audio-player/vic­tory-audio-series.html

[NYTNinAmerica]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N, my problem with Dollar is he is ONE OF THE MAIN PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE for messing people up "back in the 80's" as you say. And he has never taken responsibility for it.

I watched Dollar on tv this morning attempting to break down the true meaning of 'prosperity' as being wholistic and 'no lack' (familiar with this teaching for years now). Well, this isn't what he taught for the first 20+ years. He's just teaching this now because what he taught before has not worked.

[anthonyJ0HNS0N]

@NYTNinAmerica hmm ic....

[watchNpraydotNet]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N - a REAL probelm wit prospertiy message is it ONLY applys to the 300 million people living in the USA. You cannot say in Communist China, or in IMF dominated country like Haiti, or a Muslim state like Iran that the prosperity doctrine can work, it is FALSE! if only certain people in a certain area can apply the principles then it is not the Will of God. there r 1.3 billion people in China, i guess God wants some of them to WORSHIP their govt so they can prosper!

[anthonyJ0HNS0N]

@watchNpraydotNet thats because ppl are not completely sold out for Jesus. Errbody wants to pray the prayer and get that gold sticker next 2 their name in the book of life but nobody wanna do the blood sweat and tears of christian walk. Nobody respects Jesus! His ministry is clear, deal with the sin in your heart. Nobody wants to look at themselves and say, "I am a disgusting horrible sinner", and truly want to change that. This is why many are called and few are chosen right?

[anthonyJ0HNS0N]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N You see you and many others view this prosperity teaching from a negative perspective, GREED. Errybody need to get over themselves, ya sure God loves you and knows your every thought, but do you really think God wants to prosper you so that you can kick your feet up at a resort? Naw man... You are an ambasador for Christ, you got work to do, ppl to meet, places to go and lives to change, and that costs money.

[anthonyJ0HNS0N]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N And in todays "I dont believe it till i see it" type of world you need to set yourself apart. PPL need to look at you and think, wow, the only way to explain that person is that truly God must be with them. The whole point is here is that we should not look at money and prosperity like the world does, we should look at it the way God does.

[anthonyJ0HNS0N]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N The reason why prosperity teaching does not work for everybody is because it only works when your living holy brotha. Deuteronomy 28 says this, If you FULLY obey your the LORD your God and carefully keep his commands, your towns and fields will be blessed, your children will be blessed, your offspring of your herds will be blessed, your fruit baskets will be blessed, WHEREVER YOU GO AND WHATEVER YOU DO...you will be blessed.

[anthonyJ0HNS0N]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N So there you go, and dont tell me being blessed means being rich in spirit cuz how can a fruit basket be rich in spirit? Dont blame Creflo for teaching you one doctrine of the Bible, blame other teachers for not teaching you other doctines of the Bible, we need them all to make sense and be blessed.

[anthonyJ0HNS0N]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N And once more we should blame ourselves for not reading the bible and letting God himself show us, isnt that more fun anyways? I mean Im not even trying here, my Bible was sitting on my couch opened to Deuteronomy 28, fur-real. So where the men at? Be courageous, read your Bible, your community is depending on you to live holy and be blessed.

[watchNpraydotNet]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N - Problem #1) there are many scriptures that talk about the POOR in a favorable manor, lets get serious; The Hebrew words 'Shaphal' 08217 & 'Anaw' 06035 are often translated as: poor lowly servant needy weak meek afflicted. look up the strong # and try yo explain away the FAVORABLE attitude that The LORD has towards the poor! lets be real here, you have to explain away ALOT of scriptures if you think that The LORD only wants us to "prosper" in the physical sense...Part 2...

[watchNpraydotNet]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N - Part 1 - Problem#1) lets look at the "N.T." in the GREEK the word for POOR is the greek 'Ptochos' 4434 if GOD only wants us to prosper then please EXPLAIN each of the verses below....

2 Corinthians 6:10

James 2:5

Luke 6:20

Luke 14 (whole chapter)

Luke 16:19-27

Romans 15:26

God is NOT a genie & we live in a harsh world not candyland some people r poor because of REAL mental illness, lets be honest here, we r supposed to be servants no matter what situation we r in

[NYTNinAmerica]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N, let it go, bro. This teaching is based on lies and has been PROVEN not to work as it has been taught the last 30+ years. It's a LIE. Why can't you see that?

[watchNpraydotNet]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N - This is PROOF texting...u cannot transfer God saying that He will bless herds, fruit baskets, fields & towns to the WESTERN world. He was speaking of ISRAEL in that scripture, and the last time i checked North America is NOT in the Middle East. You cant just take the word "fruit basket" and translate it into "Shopping Cart" or "herds" and translate it into "Cars", ppl living in North America r the wealthiest ppl on the planet how much MORE does God need to give us?

[watchNpraydotNet]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N - The biggest lie that the enemy has told is that we need MONEY to do ministry!!!! This is a lie! we dont need money! Currency or coinage is not the GOAL it is only a medium of exchange or a TOOL. BUT there are many ways in which to BYPASS these tools in order to get to the GOAL... of course if you wanna BUILD BIG BUILDINGS and MONUMENTS and STADIUMS you need....to fleece the flock and preach PROSPERITY and Tithing to them

[ucanwalkonwater]

"You come here to help me and Taffi fulfill this vision . . ."

Although it is painful to hear, Creflo is being honest. He is openly stating what many pastors are not saying. Yep, it is all about Creflo and Taffi, NOT about whether or not you are fed with God's Word so you can live according to HIS will. That stated, people shouldn't be surprised if they get rejected if they loose favor with the pastor.

[dnice3681]

WOW Im going to humbly admit that I always thought that God viewed sin on equal basis...Man I spent 10 years in a church that taught Word of Faith Doctrine and its hard to debug all that garbage I once learned, thanks for the video NYTNinAmerica

[BornAgainJerry]

e) It boils down to who you going believe CHRIST or Creflo......!

[BornAgainJerry]

d) Isaiah 40-44 to support ANY man that would make such claims and teach others to follow suit is blasphemous and the height of arrogrance and conceit! Before his fall Lucifer claimed "I will be like the most high!" and to call people who proclaim the DEITY of Christ "fantasy preachers.." I guess Jesus, Matthew, Thomas, Paul, John and John the baptist, and the writer of Hebrews were just trippin'

This statement is what got Jesus condemed R U the Son of God? "I AM..!"

[BornAgainJerry]

c) which raises the question (in light of the Long controversy) Creflo stated to WCC "I never told you I was perfect" But if Creflo isn't perfect but equal to God doesn't that mean God is imperfect also?! Lets hear what the true & living God had it say about it

"I am the LORD there is no other, is there a God besides Me...nor shall there be after ME.. I know none!...to whom will you compare me to, or whom is my EQUAL?! these are rhetorical questions that demand the answer - No one!

[BornAgainJerry]

b)Jesus said if the blind led the blind both will fall into the ditch, Kenyon has written that man has equality with God, this is where the 'little gods doctrine' originates Copeland & Dollar teach this, but who said it first "You shall be as Gods" the Serpent Gen 3:5 or Paul calls the doctrine of demons 1Tim 4:1 Jesus said satan is the father of lies Jn 8:44 back in May '02 Creflo sat at table with Copeland and misquoted Phil 2:5-7

and cliamed equality with God...!

[BornAgainJerry]

a) First Creflo endorsed EW Kenyon, K Kagin & K Copeland as 'men of God' Kenyon 1867-1948 was trained in metaphysics @ Emerson college whom Hagin plagerized over the yrs (this can be verfied by Kenyons daughter Ruth) Copeland is a student of Hagin by his own admisssion, Creflo is a student of Copeland as one can see 'if the root is corrupt so must fruit be ' error begets error

[RENPEARLE]

Mind control at its finest....

[NYTNinAmerica]

@RENPEARLE: Man... You said it all...

[08opendoor]

Maybe he's right.... the word preached here is full of mixture and you might end up confused.

He said that God LOOKS at all sin as the "same"? What? Then why does the OT teach us that God assigned different penalties to certain sins. Also, in the NT ... 1 Cor 6:18 is quite revealing.

Jesus Christ paid the penalty for ALL sin and we are forgiven by believing on and continuing to believe on HIM. Thanks be to God! (btw.... when did not reading your Bible become sin?)

[kingdomanointed]

What on God's green earth is he talking about?! My goodness! I really cannot say anything else about Creflo that I haven't said before LOLOLOLOL I mean, I always sum it up like this: HE'S AN IDIOT! What else is there to say? What does he mean we don't come to church to "get fed" of course we do! He has unbelievers, new believers at that ministry who needs to be fed. How will they know unless they have a teacher. They need to know Jesus, not a vision. FREAKIN IDIOT! I can't stand this man!

[Taaron313]

@kingdomanointed I can't stand Theftlo either.

[cheryljohnsonlou]

Creflo's sheeple, Based on this video; This is not Biblical. 2 John 1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him NOT into your house, neither bid him God speed.11) For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his EVIL DEEDS. Run for your life !!!!!

[2GreatCommandments]

This man is clearly a witch, that have decieve the minds of the simple. 1) The vison was already set from the most High God, it is the plan of salvation for the 12 Tribes of the nation of Israel. You must find out who the 12 tribes are of today. The descendents of Israelite's are those of the slave trade. 2) There are many gods and the god he is talking about is SATAN, the prince of this world. 3) The scriptures can not be broken. To judge means to correct the lies and the sin, so we can judge.

[NYTNinAmerica]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N:

1) What "positive results" have you seen?

2) Where in scripture does it say the purpose of the gospel to provide people with such "positive results"?

3) Creflo Dollar said in this sermon that what he has taught for the last 30 years has not been working for you all. So somebody's lying.

[anthonyJ0HNS0N]

@NYTNinAmerica man, thats a lie

[NYTNinAmerica]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N, I'm an Atlanta native who has been to Creflo Dollar's church, read his books, listened to his tapes, and watched him on tv for almost 20 years. So you really can't tell me anything about Creflo Dollar.

As he preaches there are 15, 30, and even 45minute or greater segments where he makes various claims without ANY biblical support. He also takes scriptures out of context. He does so REPEATEDLY in this very sermon.

You see what you want to see, and hear what you want to hear.

[Rexlove1]

What? Did He say that the members are there to fulfill his vision?  What about fulfilling Christ vision?

[jackbartolli51]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N Creflo Dollar started "talking smack" against the Bible. If you took the time to STUDY your Bible you would stop defending Creflo over Christ.

[YellowDiamondz100]

I'm tired of this mess!! I pray GOD expose allll these ministries that are teaching false doctrine & mind raping the people!!

[ChippiSweet]

2/2: For Dollar, he is using old information to attract new members, likely young people, who have never heard this before while at the same time trying to retain current members who are able to pay their tithes. For new members, it’s new ‘revelation’, for old, it’s reinforcing ‘revelation.’

[ChippiSweet]

1/2: A pastor of a mega church located in a very large city in the Northeast said on an interview on TBN that his church lost 5% in revenues because of the recession. If this church lost 5%, how much more churches through the US so these Pimp Preachers have to find a way to create revenues so they rely on tried true tactics

[HisTrueName]

John 21:16

"He said to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, love you me? He said to him, Yes, Lord; you know that I love you. He said to him, Feed my sheep."

[HisTrueName]

Every church claiming Christ is a Church of God

For anyone that is confused or didn't know, EVERY church building where the "ministry" claims Christ BELONGS to Christ

NOT the pastor i.e. "servant". They don't own anything. 501c3 corporations were not the intent of Christ or the apostles. Many will be shocked in the end when they are told they been worshipping in temples of baal

[HisTrueName]

Is Creflo mentioning Kenneth Hagin and Copeland in the same breath?

Didn't Hagin rebuke Kenneth Copeland?

Man, these televangelist play people for the fool because of ignorance of the word and not having discernment

[maxtube22]

2 Ti 2:16 But shun profane [and] vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus

(I add Dollar the Atheist con man to that list)

1 Ti 1:20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

1 Cor 5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

[ucofw]

It's a shame before God this man is upholding this mess smh

[sheteak]

Crafty...and the people jus, wow! He's a lie! Yes, sin is sin but they're diff'rent penalties for certain sin. The Most High may jack u up alil for certain things and others he jus might kill u!

[scarletsmith]

Why, yes, Creflo, there IS a criteria for who gets to go to heaven and who doesn't. God makes that decision. Spend a little time studying John Ch. 3 and pretty much the entirety of Romans, then see if you can figure it out.

[Shazoolo]

So many weird and wacky pastors about these days. Stay close to Jesus people yet be aware of and warn of the wolves.

[Taaron313]

@anthonyJ0HNS0N No. It's clear that YOU don't read your bible. Okay so since you're such a biblical scholar would you kindly post the scriptures that back up Creflo's statements? You can start with the one about people being "called" to a church to support the pastors so called "vision". I eagerly await your response.

[sinatra2jj]

whoever posted this is wasting their time because u dont know what ur talking about.... stop talking about this guy....

[NYTNinAmerica]

@sinatra2jj, Creflo Dollar started off this very message by saying: "Over the next three to four weeks, you're going to find that MOST OF THE STUFF YOU'VE LEARNED and most of the things you understand about the bible -- is A LITTLE OFF."

Creflo Dollar is saying this to an audience of people for whom he's been their TEACHER for the last 30 years. In short, they're "off" because he's "off".

So it seems Creflo Dollar is the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.

[jackbartolli51]

@NYTNinAmerica Thank you for posting this video, and thank you for defending the faith. Also, it's amazing that Creflo Dollar and those who follow him call themselves "Christian". Why bother? They clearly demonstrate that they aren't Christian.

[jackbartolli51]

@sinatra2jj The person who posted this video is following the commands of Scripture to defend the faith and exposed the unfruitful works of darkness (Jude 3; Ephesians 5:11-12). If you loved Jesus Christ more than Creflo Dollar you would study the Bible and obey the commands of Scripture. Take your pick: Creflo or Christ? Your decision will decide where you will spend your eternity.

[ChristiansofAsia]

@sinatra2jj Do you know the consequences of defending false teachers? Probably not..just read your Bible prayerfully before defending false teachers.

[sinatra2jj]

@ChristiansofAsia just because u dont agree about what he said makes em a false teacher huh... -_- b4 u point out other people flaws evaluate urself homie.. stop throwing stones at this guy..

[Tawnygalwk]

@sinatra2jj Creflo Dollar is a HERETIC and he as well as countless others HERETICS, um their big mouths must be stopped as it says in Titus 1:10,11. I believe the main reason why he still has followers/fans is because they are bewitched. And what pastor in his right mind would even allow himself to be in a rap video period but of all people filthy and woman degrading "Ludicrous"? That speaks volume about him alone as a supposed pastor. Simply ludicrous!

[2GreatCommandments]

@sinatra2jj Bro did you read what you posted!!!!! This show's that my people are destroyed for a lack of knowlege, undsestanding don't read and rather to be about truth they rather be mislead. Bro dollar is a false teacher according to the scriptures you would know that if you read the bible. This man have been preahing the same false doctine for years and is good at twisting scriptures. Far as throwing stones the bible throws e stones it just plan to that see it. The lies must stop!

[DX1257]

Its funny, I can't seem to find Creflo or his wife mentioned in the bible.

[ggilbertsr]

the spelling of names aside all mega church preachers are helping to keep our people in bondage.There is a large number of people leaving these organizations.People are waking up and realizing that what these religons have done is made God in mans image.The Creator has never needed a book to speak to man.

[Ordained88]

THIS IS GETTING TOOOOOOOOOO OUT OF HAND!!!! IF ANYBODY...I MEAN ANYBODY...STAY UNDER HIM AFTER STATING THAT HE IS THE MOST HIGH...BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT IT MEANS WHEN YOU SAY YOU COME HERE NOT FOR THE WORD BUT FOR THE VISION OF THE PASTOR!!! RIGHTEOUS INDIGNATION SHOULD RISE UP IN YOU ALL!!!

[Taaron313]

Pimps like Creflo have bodyguards because they know in their heart they deserve many an ass whipping for the things they've taught.

[Preachateacha]

God bless my mother and sister. They love the Lord but they are devoted to Cashflow Dollar. Sending this vid to them wouldnt change their view of the man.

[zacchaeus]

@Preachateacha i know people like that too. very hard indeed. be encouraged though

[Nkkicute]

@NYTNinAmerica

Wow, wow, wow! He actually said it!! For those whose eyes have been open we always knew that when it came to those Pimp Preachers it was all about them but he actually said it out loud!! His members are there to serve him and his wife and the word is secondary like some afterthought, when the word should come FIRST!! And they all just sat there and agreed with him? Just like that?

[mole646]

Die Creflo Dollar, just Die!

[comebigarestayathome]

i cant bear to listen to this man

[nightcypha]

Theflo's at it again huh? For one who's never used "CONTEXT" he will steadily suffer in "PRETEXT". Yet his congregation eats it up like Chex; lending their ears to manipulative doctrines and drinking the nectar's of such Christ-defiled messages. At some point one has to take responsibility of their own salvation. I'd pray that those members would do such a thing.

[TheDaughtersofChrist]

I think the kingdoms of MEN are just starting to fall apart. Man is NOTHING without his CREATOR which is CHRIST. Man CANNOT survive INDEPENDENTLY of the LORD.

[Judean777]

all this defending of Long has me thinking Creflo got secret himself.

[michaelermcgowaniv]

@Judean777 It's would be different if he said pray for the situation atNew Birth.

It does sound like he is setting his church up for something big.

[Ricodabodyguard22]

Didn't the snake speak those same words to Adam and Eve the second day they were in the garden; the "you can be like gods"?

[misterjei]

What's the difference between a southern plantation owner and the likes of Creflo Dollar and 'Bishop' Long!?!

Apart from the physical chains. I can't tell.

[Christisourhope]

Just what I expect from a false teacher..false doctrine..Ugh..........

[pitdog62]

The really sad part is that all those people that follow him. “creflo I want your dollar” is a very evil pimp preacher. He lies straight from the pulpit. The pimp preachers are the new slave masters.

[SkiesVibrant]

Shameful, despicable man. Strike that, he is not a man. He is a spoiled brat who is determined to twist the word of God.

[caribb6877]

Unbelievable...

[ChippiSweet]

Is he BUGGIN! What! I bet you those new members never heard this before. Run, run, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS CRAZY!

[spiritminstrel]

Zzzzzzz . . . . Zzzzzzzz . . . . Zzzzzzzz - please wake me when worship and sharing the Word starts.

[misterjei]

@spiritminstrel

Don't forget to set your alarm, so you don't either miss the last shuttle bus home, or Security locking up then.

[spiritminstrel]

@misterjei LOL!

[magirecords2004]

Delusional pimps...like balaam.

[ChristiansofAsia]

A wolf in sheep's clothing.

[AuChaYah]

it sounds like in the beginning, he's preparing his members to receive that he's next on the agenda of tptb! He wicked as all hell!