Holy jeesus, some of these people really dont understand that somethings just happen. Everyone was on the ground safe...Jesse is an amazing videographer...and also an amazing skydiver. So being a camera man, if the kid was looking at him, and he gave a hand signal guess what...its just more help.
Jesse its Drew...Cant wait to jump with you. Where was this at?
Student gear doesn't have collapsible pilot chutes. My question is with two AFFI's holding on to the student, why is the camera guy giving him hand signals.
Could this have been caused by the proxmidity of the two instructors to the student? It seemed that the pc was simply not catching the air. Forgive if this is a silly question but would gear used in AFF benifit from slightly larger pc's
if those are 2 insturctors... then why is one of them with no helmet...? think about setting an example and actually so something other than HOLDING ONTO the student o.O you're like, taking his stability!
Nontheless, great job from the instructor WITH the helmet and for the student too =) that was a success! and for the camera too xD
Looked to me like the PC was producing only partial drag, meaning it wasn't fully cocked. Furthermore the hesitation wasn't all that long and if the student quit, it was because of it being brought to his attention.
i looked at it again and yup it was inflated...so was that rental gear at a DZ? that seems like a pretty dangerous mistake to make for them, hope they fixed it.
@mjh120 this is more common that you would think on AFF1, with two bodies that close next to you somtimes the pilot cute just cant catch enough air to deploy so an instructor pulls it out
Actually, actually... If the second AFF instructor had followed proper procedure? The PC would have had more snap to snatch the bag off. By not letting go soon enough. His body area created a much larger burble over the student's back.
This guy should have failed his AFF level 1. He didn't obey any of the hand signals (apart from the final one) and was more concerned with looking at the camera for a nice video. Idiot. How nice is the vid when the instructors are frantically trying to remind him where he is??
seemed like a pretty standard aff 1 to me, most pple are like dohhhh holy shit only half aware of whats going on on their first skydive weather there is a camera in front of them or not.
I don't think the cameraman should have been giving him hand signals right when his main side was giving him the practice pull signal. He was looking at his instructors regularly, he did OK. And he pulled.
And on passing him, you can't tell just from the video. Instructors debrief students to evaluate their awareness. If they give an accurate blow by blow of the jump with good recollection that's a big plus.
did this guy ever jump again?? thats a nasty malfunction to have on your first aff jump and he looked like he wasnt very relaxed as it was.. good job by the instructors.. pheew!
yeah iguess your right, but ive never had a high speed malfunction in a few hundred jumps, only twists cause im jumping a small eliptical canopy i cant imagine it as a student... it would have grounded me for a bit and my AFF´s went smoothly, although im the first to admit i had the shakes when i landed...haha
After malfunction like that I would be terrified. I have only 14 jumps by now (maybe I manage to make same more this weekend). Probably the best option alter something like this is to jump again as quickly as possible (the other option is to go home and start to think about it - and that is really scary)
Why be scared? This should be educational! If no opening shock happens within 3 seconds change body position to jiggle the pilot chute. Make your mind up before 1500FT. It is that simple. My advice get 2 audible altimeters as soon as you start jumping!
Well, I did my AFF with one, and if jumpers with 1000+ jumps jump with them.. I don'T know why students with less than 10 jumps should jump without...
It's so student don't learn to rely on a sound for altitude awareness. Considering the sensory overload that happens already, now they're supposed to wait for a sound too?
All a student needs to do is stay altitude aware and in good body position. If they don't pull when they're supposed to, there are two instructors there to make sure that they correct this.
I'm totally pro-audibles, but only after AFF when they have the basics down on how to stay altitude aware (ie looking at the altimeter)
I completely agree with you, students should not rely on the AA, but in a sport like skydiving, i'm saying every precaution should be taken. Yes, the teachers are there to make sure the students stays altitude aware... but in situations where the student gets separated (these things happen) and the students freaks out a loud beep in the ear will remind him that the ground is but seconds away. Should the students rely only on AA, Hell no. Should it be used as a precaution. Hell yes.
The guy on Blue Peter gave up on his AFF after a pilot chute hesitation, I don't think his Brit trainers were very reassuring about it and he kinda stewed over it. Having some guy say that it sometimes happens and he just punches the container the container rasies the question, what happens when your AFFI is not there.
I was the main side instructor (in black) for this jump. The mal can be cleared by either (a) shaking the container (b) punching the container, or (c) pulling on the bridal. Option C is not a good idea.
im no AFFI, but howcome you say option C is not a good idea?....so long as the option results in the bag being away from the container and the stows being pulled open, isnt that what you want..
ive seen option c being used before., just wondered why you say no option C?
I assume the instructors pulled the bag out? I hear debates all the time on whether to a cutaway or just a reserve pull
Rcslayer2k2 5 months ago
@bwong85 lol at all you "professionals"
MrReuben851 8 months ago
These comments are funny. Everybody is a pro. lol
outtabounz 11 months ago 2
Is that Ted G? Miss his crazy ass!
dionkarlyn 1 year ago
Is that Ted G? Miss his crazy ass!
dionkarlyn 1 year ago
Is that Ted G?
dionkarlyn 1 year ago
I recognize this scenery... it's Skydive Georgia!
absane 1 year ago
Holy jeesus, some of these people really dont understand that somethings just happen. Everyone was on the ground safe...Jesse is an amazing videographer...and also an amazing skydiver. So being a camera man, if the kid was looking at him, and he gave a hand signal guess what...its just more help.
Jesse its Drew...Cant wait to jump with you. Where was this at?
JumpForFun85 1 year ago
The student looked like he was distracted by the camera man filming him. The jump was a good jump, everyone survived.
Whats the most important thing to do in a skydive? PULL!
agentc0re 1 year ago
Student gear doesn't have collapsible pilot chutes. My question is with two AFFI's holding on to the student, why is the camera guy giving him hand signals.
NYJerry13 1 year ago
Could this have been caused by the proxmidity of the two instructors to the student? It seemed that the pc was simply not catching the air. Forgive if this is a silly question but would gear used in AFF benifit from slightly larger pc's
tpsossff 1 year ago
if those are 2 insturctors... then why is one of them with no helmet...? think about setting an example and actually so something other than HOLDING ONTO the student o.O you're like, taking his stability!
Nontheless, great job from the instructor WITH the helmet and for the student too =) that was a success! and for the camera too xD
ShallonesS 1 year ago
Looked to me like the PC was producing only partial drag, meaning it wasn't fully cocked. Furthermore the hesitation wasn't all that long and if the student quit, it was because of it being brought to his attention.
captain1976 1 year ago
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noserider207 1 year ago
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if he would have done a proper gear check this could have been prevented...gotta cock that pilot chute
mjh120 2 years ago
@mjh120 Actually, you'll notice the PC is fully inflated. Issue in this case the container was not a great fit for the dbag.
FlyingMantisGT 2 years ago
i looked at it again and yup it was inflated...so was that rental gear at a DZ? that seems like a pretty dangerous mistake to make for them, hope they fixed it.
mjh120 2 years ago
@mjh120 this is more common that you would think on AFF1, with two bodies that close next to you somtimes the pilot cute just cant catch enough air to deploy so an instructor pulls it out
lolimfalling 2 years ago 2
@FlyingMantisGT,
Actually, actually... If the second AFF instructor had followed proper procedure? The PC would have had more snap to snatch the bag off. By not letting go soon enough. His body area created a much larger burble over the student's back.
neomuttley 1 year ago
@mjh120 student pilot chutes generally don't collapse anyway, in other words there's no kill line.
ruledbyzeppelin 1 year ago
I wonder what was goint through his mind.. he didn't respond on any signal..
raween 2 years ago
This guy should have failed his AFF level 1. He didn't obey any of the hand signals (apart from the final one) and was more concerned with looking at the camera for a nice video. Idiot. How nice is the vid when the instructors are frantically trying to remind him where he is??
yerty2000 2 years ago
seemed like a pretty standard aff 1 to me, most pple are like dohhhh holy shit only half aware of whats going on on their first skydive weather there is a camera in front of them or not.
lolimfalling 2 years ago
thats why i first did to tandem jumps to loose fear..
drumatic86 2 years ago
I don't think the cameraman should have been giving him hand signals right when his main side was giving him the practice pull signal. He was looking at his instructors regularly, he did OK. And he pulled.
dorbie 2 years ago
And on passing him, you can't tell just from the video. Instructors debrief students to evaluate their awareness. If they give an accurate blow by blow of the jump with good recollection that's a big plus.
dorbie 2 years ago
line twists on a student canopy shouldn't be a cutaway - more like do what you are trained to do!!!!!
MgpMontville 3 years ago 3
you just look to the camera men. bad 1 star
741741 3 years ago
Looks like both instructors pulled before his chute came out, hmm
1greyremote 3 years ago
Nuts, only practice pulls and altimeter checks. you did nothing in this jump.
sad to see. honestly. do not focus on the video but what you did mentally prepare yourself for.
Haxenhans 3 years ago
Practice pulls, altimeter checks, and he pulled at the right altitude. That is a successful AFF level one you butt sniffer!
PW
wzl46 3 years ago 11
It's an AFF level 1, what did you want him to do?
BAMatUF 2 years ago
Haha, I forgot to do my PRCP on my first jump too.
Question: at 0:30...FlyingMantis, what was that? The signal to pull?? Why?
TheHomicideRocker 3 years ago
Fist = Practice Pulls
FlyingMantisGT 3 years ago 2
im about to do my jump in australia they taught us fist = Pull right now
MotherOfAllBombs1 3 years ago
Different club, different hand signals. There is no standard and even in the same country it can vary (certainly has since my AFF in another state).
dorbie 2 years ago
lol "flying mantis " , nice comment dude
01stursa 3 years ago
did this guy ever jump again?? thats a nasty malfunction to have on your first aff jump and he looked like he wasnt very relaxed as it was.. good job by the instructors.. pheew!
notasdumbastherest 3 years ago
Who is relaxed during first jump? ;)
Gruby7C1h 3 years ago
yeah iguess your right, but ive never had a high speed malfunction in a few hundred jumps, only twists cause im jumping a small eliptical canopy i cant imagine it as a student... it would have grounded me for a bit and my AFF´s went smoothly, although im the first to admit i had the shakes when i landed...haha
notasdumbastherest 3 years ago
After malfunction like that I would be terrified. I have only 14 jumps by now (maybe I manage to make same more this weekend). Probably the best option alter something like this is to jump again as quickly as possible (the other option is to go home and start to think about it - and that is really scary)
Gruby7C1h 3 years ago
Stop being pussies it really wasnt that bad !!! and anyway theres always plan b ;p
houseofherbie 3 years ago
Correct.
nbase41 3 years ago
Why be scared? This should be educational! If no opening shock happens within 3 seconds change body position to jiggle the pilot chute. Make your mind up before 1500FT. It is that simple. My advice get 2 audible altimeters as soon as you start jumping!
race2patton 2 years ago
Except that you're not allowed to use an audible on AFF jumps. We can't be teaching student to rely on audibles right away... that's an awful idea.
BAMatUF 2 years ago
Well, I did my AFF with one, and if jumpers with 1000+ jumps jump with them.. I don'T know why students with less than 10 jumps should jump without...
Krusty1985 2 years ago
It's so student don't learn to rely on a sound for altitude awareness. Considering the sensory overload that happens already, now they're supposed to wait for a sound too?
All a student needs to do is stay altitude aware and in good body position. If they don't pull when they're supposed to, there are two instructors there to make sure that they correct this.
I'm totally pro-audibles, but only after AFF when they have the basics down on how to stay altitude aware (ie looking at the altimeter)
BAMatUF 2 years ago
I completely agree with you, students should not rely on the AA, but in a sport like skydiving, i'm saying every precaution should be taken. Yes, the teachers are there to make sure the students stays altitude aware... but in situations where the student gets separated (these things happen) and the students freaks out a loud beep in the ear will remind him that the ground is but seconds away. Should the students rely only on AA, Hell no. Should it be used as a precaution. Hell yes.
Krusty1985 2 years ago
when I did my AFF, they always said: "if you find yourself alone, and without an instructor, GET OUT OF FREEFALL"
yerty2000 2 years ago 2
The guy on Blue Peter gave up on his AFF after a pilot chute hesitation, I don't think his Brit trainers were very reassuring about it and he kinda stewed over it. Having some guy say that it sometimes happens and he just punches the container the container rasies the question, what happens when your AFFI is not there.
So it can be scarey, especially for new jumpers.
dorbie 2 years ago
on my first aff, i had pretty bad line twists that i almost had to cut away for. one of the scariest moments of my life.
jsbach333 3 years ago
good work on your part keep it safe
randallWC 4 years ago
I was the main side instructor (in black) for this jump. The mal can be cleared by either (a) shaking the container (b) punching the container, or (c) pulling on the bridal. Option C is not a good idea.
FlyingMantisGT 4 years ago
@FlyingMantisGT
im no AFFI, but howcome you say option C is not a good idea?....so long as the option results in the bag being away from the container and the stows being pulled open, isnt that what you want..
ive seen option c being used before., just wondered why you say no option C?
Catapultandclingfilm 1 year ago
@Catapultandclingfilm I just never want to get my hand (possibly with altimeter as a snag hazard) anywhere near their lines
FlyingMantisGT 1 year ago
yeah, scary shit for a first jump
44kilo 4 years ago
Wow glad I skipped that on my first jump. Did you instructer pull it out or did it free itself?
monkeybuttX 4 years ago