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  • I'm drummer. First in the world Freestyle drummer

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  • my teacher doesn't allow me to use my wrists. He tells me to play like you did at 1:19. Is that wrong? Or just different technique?

  • it doesn't seem to be a very efficient technique. if you let the stick rebound then you will only have one motion between every stroke instead of three (throwing stick down with wrist, stopping stick, pulling stick back up). also, gripping the stick in that way doesn't allow the stick to fully resonate which in turn will not allow the drum to fully resonate.

  • I would never try to play like this if I hadn't have watched this!

  • Thanks for the pointers

  • This works

  • 240p. we meet again...

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  • Hey!! somos una academia de musica, hacemos tutoriales de todos los instrumentos en español! ojalá se puedan dar una vuelta por nuestro canal, saludos musicales!! :D

  • Nice Gut!

  • Great Teacher, thanks mate got alot out of your vids...

  • Hey chopzmasta, why dont you shut your pie-hole, and let Randy do his thing, have you seen his other videos, this guy is a great teacher...if you can do better post you're own damn video

  • hi van im a huge fan of your lessons:) i've been watching your vids since 2007!!! i noticed that you teach everything but the moeller technique. i really want to learn this the right way so i can play drum rudiments really fast!!!!!!!

  • so you explained how you hold your stick, you explained the exercise which paradiddles and doubles, you spoke about using the wrists only....... well, where was the talk about the stroke/stick positions??? the up strokes, tap strokes, down strokes and full strokes??? strokes/stick positioning should always be taught to beginners for sticking exercises. but great exercise.

  • @chopzmasta07 Lets see your video, I'm sure we would all like that.

  • @Ctemple2012 video up! enjoy

  • can u make more of thes videos they are healping me thanks

  • vince vaughn? I didnt know you were into drums :) + 5 stars!

  • this man says with the bounce you wont have alotta control or volume is false, you control the volume you use the arm in conjuction with the wrist and you will get your volume and power, or the moeller whip even can give you the volume you want,if you want to single stroke as fast as this guy doubles or still pulll of paradiddles at 200 bpm with ease, then this mans lessons is not the way to go.

  • this is mans tutorial or lesson on stick control is misinformative, clearly this man misunderstood, the free stroke or letting the stick bounce technique, you do use your wrist, but u dont squeeze the fulcrum as this man is doing and you control the stick bouncing back, notice this mans hands he hits the head of the pad and PULLS his stick and wrist up, thats a WAISTED motion,also one should incorporate the moeller method for accenting at a FAST SPEED.

  • 1:02 LOL!

  • this is stupid. always work on finger strength first

  • very good video really love the tips.

  • lol @1:02

  • See this seems like a good technique but I was taught to only grip the stick with your index and thumb and let it bounce off your palm ...

  • I notice a lot of renown drummers hold there sticks like this when showing the technique but in live videos of there bands they often slide back to the end of the stick.

  • I have a big issue with my left hand idk what the heck is wrong with it lol i can do all the fills or patters with my right hand but my left need a lot more practice.

  • Don't you need to use your fingers?

  • @Nico374a That is a different technique.

  • cool my wrist will be strong enough to wack off zetterburg

  • This is a great way of teaching because the way you say you don't have to be able to read music makes it not so intimidating.

  • 450,000 people dont know how to drum basics... thank god for people like this guy

  • lol all you wrist, i totally can see doing doubles with your fingers XD

  • funny!!

  • Keep it up van.. Finally I found a video that answers questions I've had for months.

  • Keep it up van. Your a fun dude to learn from.

  • No offense.. idk y you are saying 1234567 for beginners because when they get to harder shit like 7/8 they're gona be like uhhh wtf? cuz ur sayin 7 is on the downbeat.. jus sayin b/c they're actually gona be thinking 1234567 wen it's really 1234561

  • @ikmachov that makes no sense to me. cause it's not 1234561, it's 1234567(8) it's on 4/4 in my head, so seven makes more sense

  • @fpmusic ooh tru i see what ur talkin about but i don't think u mean the (8) lol. unles ther's a 9 after it.

  • Very Bad info

  • i was watching this video early this morning and my mom walked in. i was reading the comments . and the dude was talking about nice strokes.

  • Your videos are awesome, man. Thanks for the help!

  • thx for the tips!!

  • dude sucks

  • Hey were you in a Drum corp drumline?

  • Well I play traditional grip with both hands so I must be super awesome

  • 1:02 - dedede..dede.... lol..

  • This man shows solid foundational technique. It all begins with rudiments. Learn them all, with proper technique and control, and it'll increase your ability ten fold. Don't know why he says "shoot me" at a buzz roll though lol. Nothing wrong with a buzz roll, it's just another type of roll.

  • Great video!

    You're better than that Gary Lefrancois dude...

    Thanks!

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  • fat has nothing to do with drum.. look at the snare player from memphis drum shop

  • whats the point calling someone fat? that is so immature thing to say. does it make feel better about yourself, when your calling someone fat? everybodys metabolism slowsdown in age, even if you eat pretty normaly and healthy, you can still be little overweight.

  • Thx you sooo much me and my freind always have these drum contest to see who does better and you helped me! Ahaha thx man your great btw!

  • lol..."working the wrist"

  • solid playing dude!

    and even better teaching. thank youu

  • @jy122 No, really? Is that what's called?

  • @vansdrumming Yeaaa....Its a matched grip...it is actually a verry bad way to play though....

  • @metachozoite Wow, I do not like people like you. Look at some of the modern day greats. Thomas Lang, Thomas Pridgen, Danny Carrey, Brann Dailor. All those guys are insane professional drummers, and all use matched grip either some of the time or all of the time. Traditional grip is void these days, and that's all their is to it. Matched grip is better, and there are facts to stand behind it.

  • @XxStrongDrums1996xX Wow. I do not really care what you like. Keep your opinions about me personally to your self. Most drum corps play tradational...no one wants to hear you cry like a pussy!

  • @metachozoite Look at you telling me that when you already came on here and expressed how you think matched grip is a flawed way to play. I am in know way "crying like a pussy", I'm simply expressing the fact that matched grip opens for more possibilities in modern day drumming. Maybe if you learned your facts before saying that matched grip is bad. If drums were never tilted to the side, traditional grip wouldn't exist. There would simply be no purpose for it.

  • @XxStrongDrums 1996xX lol very funny coming from someone who knows nothing about me...let me elaborate a bit fro you: I am a dca/dci drummer from early 2000's I have played with spirit of atlanta, and corpsvets where i played TENORS (match grip btw)...I also played jazz with guys who went to aim in atlanta (traditional grip)..I have 17 years of playing and even some teaching experience...i know all about drums the rudiments how to professional tune ect...I know what I am talking about k?

  • @metachozoite So you've used matched grip in a DCI setting and you still think it's a bad way to play. That's interesting............

  • @Strong Drums 1996xX I have been watching some buddy rich videos where he explained the whole thing about distance and equilibrium between his hands....also..in a world where everybody strives for success and the means to an end...why should someone do things the conventional or popular way? Being different is a huge key to success, and is something that can identify one play from the next...I have mastered both grips and just find traditional to be a bit more challenging...

  • @vansdrumming no need to use sarcasm on me i was just letting you know what it was called because you seem like you don't know what you are talking about all the time in this video.

  • @vansdrumming you DID say "my grip only" and "my special grip"....misleading

  • @jy122 geez....way to be kind about it....it really is his own style, because most teachers will tell you to try and use your middle finger and thumb as the fulcrum when playing german grip...SO IN ALL ACTUALITY THIS IS RVP GRIP

  • @jp60476 Actuality all the teachers i have talked to have said that matched grip is between your thumb and index finger. i am friends with very professional drummers. one of them i talked to is actually internationally known. he is one of the bucket boys. look them up on youtube they play on buckets, pots and pan and stuff like that.

  • @jy122 Well, I guess thats the beauty of music...its not technique, its sound that matters. As far as the fulcrum stuff, Im simply stating; I use and what Ive learned from Jojo Mayer and Dave Weckl and guys who taught them like Joe Morello....middle finger and thumb

  • @jy122 Hey actually your kinda wrong in a sense because the basics of it is its called match grip but everyone does do it differently with their hands. If you were to pick 2 random drummers from the street i bet you that the way they hold the sticks is different even if they are doing match grip. Unless of course you go to a Top of the Line drumline.

  • @jy122 your retarded. No shit its matched grip, but there are tons of styles of matched grip. There's french grip, german grip, american grip and theres probably a shit ton more. He just holds his sticks like that which is different than others.

  • DO YOU HAVE AN EXTRA DRUM PAD CAN I?

  • DO YOU HAVE AN EXTRA DRUM PAD CAN I?

    

  • when i wish i could practice but can't i watch your videos because they actually help me :)

  • double strokes are not possible without fingers for me

  • This is a very good video. I believe the emphasis is " Use your fingers only if you have to" . Play everything with the wrist for good solid drumming!

  • what pad is that? i think its his bedroom.

  • what pad is that?

  • Good beginning video to build wrist strength and teach rudiments, which are both key. He covered that. He also said later you can incorporate your fingers. Any good snare drummer from a HS band can do these exercises with practice. With wrist strength and control speed will come to you. Keep drumming.

  • This was very helpful!!! subscribin'

  • I've seen almost every video of yours, and I must say, thank you so very much. Your videos have helped me to become a better drummer over time. You are a huge inspiration. You're a freakin' amazing drummer, everyone who says otherwise is simply jealous.

    Thanks again, ROCK ON!

  • when i hold my sticks the stick feels really awkward in my left hand. does it become more comfortable over time?

  • Is this a hand technique lesson or a "look what I can do" show off session.. either way great technique and lovelly work.

  • hey, how long did it take you to be that fast? how much time a day for practicing? every day right?

  • is that a practice pad? Where did u get it?

  • bd teqnique all the way!

  • thanks a lot for sharing this video. my no. 1 problem on drumming as a beginner was my hand so hard.. thanks a lot..

  • Did you ever march in drumcore or anything?

  • @sk8erpizunk drumcorp*

  • are you giving lessons your good

  • search: amorphic drum

    what is this technique??

  • hey i hey a question im having a problem with my single strokes i got all other basic ruduments fast but just not my single strokes can you help me with get them up the speed

  • Nice m8. Never underestimate rudiments 'cause they're the keystone of good drumming. And ofc - as Mr. Portnoy once said: "Practice, practice, practice!"

  • Ian Paice??????

  • sounds like VINCE VAUGHAN, the actor, LMAO

  • i wish i can be good with matched grip as good as you. i actually play better using traditional grip rather matched

  • practiced for 6 min, went to wal*mart and got some icy hot.

  • it's a not so good hand technique... you play without sound....and your stick aren't the next part of hand....

  • what kind of drumsticks do you use? i use 2b is that to big

  • New Technique for the cross stick

  • very helpful, mi=uch better than trying to learn from a book, fuck you trolls

  • Dude, you're totally not using all wrist.... Might originate in the wrist, but once you start going fast not singles, so don't tell people that thats what you're doing. Makes it really confusing for the people just starting out, wondering why they can't get to that speed by doing "normal" singles. I also can't stand it when instructors down play french grip as some uncontrollable grip. I don't have enough space for how close minded this video is.

  • @TheKurtKM actually this vid isnt close minded you are being close minded and so what its not all rist as a musiciann you should be open minded to learn new ways of playing an instrument.

  • @TheDragonmaster18 you're misinterpreting my comment. I'm extremely open minded, using any soft touch jazz stuff, molloer (i'm sure that not spelled right) to using fingers or wrist. He is the guy saying French grip is uncontrollable. You should use everything. I'm not saying his technique is stupid or anything of the sort. I'm pointing out he's not using the same technique that he trying to show us how to do.

  • .............Every time he goes fast he uses an open close thing, or a bounce. Which is fine if that's what he's teaching... but he's not. He is saying at the beginning wrist only. Then you can start incorporating fingers. Then he doesn't even tell you how to do that.

  • I have that pad...

    makes me feel special

  • You talk way too much...but thanks for the tips anyway.

  • Hey Randy, I've been curious what sticks are you using? I understand you are a fan of Promark:D Which sticks have been your favorites?

  • @rowdyfish Promark American Hickory Millenium II Wood tip. RVP

  • @vansdrumming this is so cool man. I live in India. I bought the same ones (mil 2) from a music store in SA, TX in 2003 man. they are awesome. No stick vibration at all. i only use them for practice...

    pretty cool man...

  • my left hand sucks. i have to start off all of my patterns with my right hand.

    this vid will help.

  • i have the same drum sticks pro mark :D

  • thank you for the videos

  • LOL..."its like ugh, shoot me..."

  • thats what she said @ 0:22 - 0:34

  • dude this guy is epic... you posers with comments like "work on your teaching skillz, you technique is flawed." Do you guys not see how fluid and good this?

  • "nice and relaxed, bring your sticks up, got a nice good grip with these guys here, wrap em under"

  • i have always been tought to use the back part of your hand as a axis point and to lossen your thumb and finger....you get way more power out of it....ummm never force the stick down with your arm when working your wrist. i have played snare for MCM and SCV you might need to work on your teaching skills if you want your students to become better players.....this isnt ment as a bad comment

  • @Davidatkins10233 - Were you ever taught to spell and write? This guy's a great teacher.

  • Storking is his stick and using "vigo" Viagra maybe? :P But really, this guy does fantastic videos.

  • I find it very difficult with one hand do something different than the other. But I still have to practice

  • HA he showing us how he holds and strokes his stick

  • you dont use all wrist dumbass you use fingers when

    you get faster

  • @achrine and forearm

  • 1:03 LOL and 0:49 Nice XD

  • this helps a lot thanks

  • oh.... your voive is a great singer some day, ggod job lol....

  • i say if your working on strokes dont do down strokes. Do full strokes let them rebound up

  • @RamseyBrownf DUDE RAMSEY IS THAT YOU?? ANUS!!!

  • Can anyone tell me whats this pad he's using? It seems quiet and I need a really quiet one

  • it looks exactly like mine which is a Vic Firth practice pad

  • P.S. mine is extremely quiet

  • how do you know whether ur using ur wrists or not?

  • well try not moving your arm at all but move your hand up and down

  • when the rest of your arm doesn't move

  • did you not listen? you just use your wrist to start with genius then bring the fingers in later, and all you people slagging him off for being a "fat slob" grow up....who cares what size he is? i didnt realise you had to be skinny to play drums!

  • @ipsdrummer Tell 'm man!

  • why would you ever just use wrist? thats horrible, whats the fingers for then?

  • what pad does he use?

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  • GET TO THE FUCKING POINT1!!!!!!

  • He's demonstrating downstrokes. It's generally recommended to start off with rebound strokes first and get those happening correctly, then move on to downstrokes. This is outlined very nicely in Mark Wessell's "A Fresh Approach to the Snare Drum." See the snare education section on the Vic FIrth Website.

  • To work on hand to hand consistency, i usually do a measure RlrrllRlrrllRlrr then LrllrrLrllrrLrll and repeat, it builds up paradiddle/paradiddlediddles.

    Thats mostly for the marching guys out there for you. haha. (:

  • he likes his STICKS. wait, hes 1 human being!!!

  • why?

  • @Didrika27 You must be high as a kite

  • I've been playing for quite some time, and I skipped all this..Anyway when working on these exercises how long would be a good work out?

  • @Spydr2000 go to the vic firth web site , click on rudiments ... work on the basic ones ..singles , doubles , paradiddles , flams , and drags .... do not worry about how long to practice them ... just get yourself going and then you can make a practice routine

  • 2 hours

  • he keeps on repeating " holding my stick" ... we all know that.hahahaha

  • how fast should someone be able to go before they start using their fingers?

  • Great tutorial!... thanks for sharing!... =)

  • I think my right hand is not working (Im left handed)

  • it will

  • good man!! left hand power!

  • thamk you im starting to think about druming but im not sure if im cut out for it

  • never say your not cut out for an instrument. if you can pick up a stick and hit a pad, your cut out for drums. the more you play, the better you become. if you want some inspiration, go look up the band "Def Leppard." look at then live. theyre an awesome band, with great drumlines. yet the drummer only has one arm. if some one who only has one arm can get that famous, then you certainely can

  • It dosnt matter if your cut out for it.. its fun, and you will suprise yourself if you just practice you will be good in no time

  • this guy sounds like Al Franken ..... " gosh darnit , i`m good enough , smart enough , and people LIKE me "

  • ive been drumming for 4 years and i use a remo practice pad which u can get at guitar center for only 20 r 12 dollars or there snares and kits ae cheap and good too

  • ive only been drumming for just over a year now i think ive progressed well but things like this i need to focus a lot more on, precision and stuff

  • how much would a practise pad like that go for new?

  • i got one for 60$

  • I wouldn't go for that pad because usually there really expensive but you can get one just like it its called a HQ real feel which is the same thing but 30$ cheaper.

  • I'm right handed and I'm a begginer drummer. And I usually start of playing a beat really well. Then my left hand kinda looses control. I've tried everything but I just can't control it. And I have to practise at school after hours because my mum refuses to get me a kit and I have to teach myself! Could someone please help me! xx

  • just keep at it...i'm actually left handed and i've been drumming for about 3 yrs or so and i just practiced a lot and it does help...practice slowly for a while until you have it down and then speed up a little and then a little bit more until you get to the speed you want

  • you can use the underside of your shoe as a nice improvised pad, secondly play quarter notes with your left hand. start out slow and work your way up to as fast as you can go, try to keep going and work through the burn, practice practice practice and a little more practice should do it, there's no magic way to hold the stick and become an amazing drummer.

  • @KayleighAndJess the problem is because your left hand muscles are naturally less developed since you use your right for s much more in everyday life. This is totally normal and will adjust with time. A good exercise is to just play slow triplets, focusing on keeping the accents even sounding, so left is just as loud as right. This will develop muscles and control. The best way to fix this is just time though, so don't give up :)