Gay Pride in 70s (A Very Natural Thing)

[cherubicnerd]

thank you.

[gbufcc]

One thing gays don't understand is that some people believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God, and it says man with man is a sin. They believe in absolute truth, and want to lead a life pleasing to God. They believe in hellfire, and don't want to go there. Gay is different than other sins, because they march and take "pride" in their sin. You don't see fornicators or adulterers doing this. Gays shouldn't get mad at these people, they need to take it up with God.

[cherubicnerd]

@gbufcc funny. you turn on the tv and see people flaunting all types of sins according to christianity. promiscuity,gluttony,vanity... of course,i don't believe in any religion that promotes sexism,anti-semitism,etc.

[gbufcc]

@cherubicnerd Yes ...but you don't see them marching in the street for acceptance, promoting it, & taking pride in it - like hetero-fornicator day. The issue of "pride" is one element that sets gay apart as the *worst* of all sins. You can even make a case that it's worse than the sin of murder, as it blasphemes the Holy Spirit - God created them male & female - that's the image of God - 2 males together is wrong - it's blasphemous - & blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the one unpardonable sin.

[imagineers101]

These marches were good. People kept their dignity, not calling other people names. .. But in San Francisco it got scarier and scarier.. frightening children into becoming an entire generations of homophobic adults. I'm sorry these marches turned into scary parades of angry, almost nude men in clown facepaint. Shouting is scary.

[Compwhiz128]

The rise of liberalism...

Fagaliciousness was indeed accepted in ancient europe, but regarded as a choice, twasnt will the rise of christianity and islam when it became an issue.

Personally, I don't care, its because ive noted homo sexual orientation to be caused by trauma during mental development, you can fix it or leave it, but please keep it behind closed doors, I don't want my kids to see men nor women dancing like strippers in the name of gay pride.

Bisexuality is what's natural. 

[Myview246]

"its a pretty fucked up society when the army gives me a medal for killing a man and a dishonourable dischange for loving a man"

wow so powerful and true!

[DJacqu8351]

LGBT, hetero, black white, asian, red, blue, or green, we're all the same! Love is love! Hate is hate! I choose love! Same message now as then. "Imagine". Peace:)

[BreezesofConey]

'It's a pretty fucked up society when the army gives me a medal for killing a man and a dishonourable discharge for loving one." Kudos to the woman at 3:20! This was the year I moved to the West Village, so angry that the gay pride parade has become so aesthetic. Angry that 40 years later we are still fighting yet so many have already forgotten where we come from- all the shit we cleaned up so the young ones could have a clear path to walk down today. Miss the old days, miss my friends.

[josephmahan]

REO SPEEDWAGON on the Horse.

[BreezesofConey]

@josephmahan Dude that was the style in those days. How many kids today look like Justin Bieber? Art imitates life and so on.

[josephmahan]

@BreezesofConey Yes, darling. I am aware that that was the style "in those days". I was alive, and well, and actively "gay". I am not saying that looking like REO SPEEDWAGON is a bad thing at all, I looked a bit like that myself. I'm just saying! LOVE, Juicy (P.S.- Who is "Justin Bieber"?)

[BreezesofConey]

@BreezesofConey I don't entirely know who he is in that I have not really "experienced" him or heard his music. I had heard of him only until a friend referred to little boys with that hair style so I looked him up. Before then I would not have been able to ID him. He is a musician and he's just a young kid with that long shaggy hair style. Looks like a bit of a twit actually. I was alive, and well, and actively gay also. Sometimes young ppl make such comments on here though, no offense.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@glamourennui

And on a final note although I'm typically not into bashing: I called you "man" before but you are clearly a woman and most probably a reactive lesbian who informs herself through flyers in the local butch bar. You represent a highly unhappy uninformed fringe minority, too thick to understand anything and constantly contributing to an unhealthy mindframe in society of HATING anything menacing you which most probably includes ALL MEN. People like you are incapable of exchange. Sad

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@glamourennui

Yeah, without arguments and some insight into the matter, nor too much of a brain it seems, I guess you're better off leaving it at an insult.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@glamourennui

Your Stonewall postion is inane propaganda, a narrative. Have you even done SOME homework on this? Do you know who Hirschfeld was? Harry Hay?

"Fighting the evil oppressor" for equal rights has been going on all throughout the 20th century, such a great mobilizer...Really, don't you think as a gay -I presume- that there is MORE that can and should be at issue than RIGHTS, only that? You've simply bought into a shallow propagandistic scheme that is boring, inane and mindless.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

@glamourennui

"It started with Stonewall."

Get some perspective man. It started in the 1870s with Ulrichs.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

...seems they're all in some cult parroting some guru's pearls of wisdom. I wish gaylib would lighten up a bit. This neverending reactive fight the oppressor scheme is just bull, boring and hysterically occults a substantive void. If gay means being equal to straights in all respects, there's really no need for the word is there? Is there any JOYFUL, CREATIVE, SPIRITUAL, INHERENTLY DIFFERENT dimension to gayness? Why are people even gay? The mantric answer is of course: born that way. Pfft.

[suddenlyitsobvious]

Unfortunately the voice recordings strike me all as very propagandistic and contrived. "A medal for killing a man and a discharge for loving one." "Just exchange the word nigger for gay, dyke at the appropriate time; it's an inability to cope with human diversity." "It's INNATE." etc These visceral statements are OBVIOUSLY CONCEIVED in think tanks. The worst of them all is of course PRIDE. Oh I retract that, they actually bring up Buchenwald and Auschwitz. Yeah, THAT should work...

Seems ...

[m1ke420]

AIDS LOL

[tetufrancia]

THANK YOU for posting such a great video. It's so educational.

[funkyladybean]

It's such a pity that our culture rejects history and the past, because from looking at these comments, there is obviously a lot to learn in terms of making a more harmonious society. People are seeing the way things used to be without ever having known there was a time like this. If we only stopped focusing on moving ahead, we could look back and learn a lot.

[kyolym]

In this video the statement that man made was I thing the greatest statement I ever heard a person say for gay rights - [ it's a pretty fucked up society when the army give's you a medial of honor for killing a man an a discharge for loving one ]

[stargate121]

"You're place or mine?"

[jonnylvsmary]

In the PHX, AZ 2010 Pride Parade, the Health and AIDS Sevice Organizations were asked to move their booths to a remote corner in order to make room for the "Barely Legal, Bareback Boys" Booth! And NO ONE blinked an eye - why not, isn't being gay all about anonymous sex, glory holes, tight underwear, Lady Gaga, and Glee? Cause it's certainly not about community and Pride anymore...

[jonnylvsmary]

The one thing that stands out to be in this video is the sense of community that is very obvious in these people. They got together, marched and were proud to be gay! Those two men on the horse mentioned being themselves - and they were! Nowadays you have emaciated teen in their briefs dancing to techno crap with one arm over their head going "whoop, whoop" . There is no sense of Pride or community anymore, just a "whom am I gonna fuck today" mentality.

[lonelyqueen86]

this festival seems a lot more exciting than the one i went to here in nc, i had wanted to go for such a long time and when i got there it seemed like more of a "promotion festival" for the local LGBT buisnesses and gift shops. gay culture is quite commercialised and watered down these days. still glad im not straight though lol

[thegoathunter4]

I wasn't around in the 70s, but it seems a time of more relaxed attitudes. Compared with nowadays, I think being gay has become commercialized and driven down a very narrow defined route. This parade seems less intimidating and more inclusive than those of today. Maybe I'm wrong because I wasn't there at the time, but that's my opinion.

[xxblodlustxx]

I see what you mean.. and I never lived in the 70s. I was born in 89. so i'm 21 now. But at the same time, the things these people have done... through everything, even the AIDS epidemic, and the gay revolutions which is tied to black and feminism revolutions in my opinions, has changed my view on life. Before I turned 18, I never really cared or though too much... But now it seems important. I'm an American adult, and it feels like my destiny to fight against prejudice of any kind.

[xxblodlustxx]

Whether you be black, indian, asian, 100% homosexual north american, I want to hear your story. We are all humans, we fear our own society as homosexuals, even to this day. But we will never just stay as we are. We are no different than the rest of humanity. We will fight. We are not filthy and disgusting. We are people. Human beings, just like the rest of them. So what, we're gay!! Being gay is okay. I don't understand why people have to be so inhospitable and flat out mean.

[xxblodlustxx]

None of us have done anything wrong, before AIDS and HIV we knew nothing. Sex had no deadly and fatal consequences, sex was just that, sex and nothing more. Maybe it had an emotional or physical sense of belonging, but that's due to heterosexuality and their popular opinions on how a person should be. What if we were to teach people about correct sexual approach or the use of condoms or other safe sex practices? It does not mean an end to gay sexual liberation. Just more practical

[xxblodlustxx]

Just use condoms, as unnatural and as anti-gay as it seems. Condoms will save your life. . and i will admit that sex without condoms is much better, but sex with condoms is much more unsafe, and eventually it wil save your life.

[unfortunatebeam]

@xxblodlustxx predjudice of anykind.  hope you know what that truly means pedro

[funkyladybean]

@thegoathunter4 Your observations are correct. Sadly, that is what has happened.

[kecklersun]

To each there own. I am headra sexual and proud, yur you are homosexual, more power to you. Just don't try to change me. I know who and what I am.

[Dominik19961017]

Sorry, but the hetero sex' its the very natural thing.

The homosexuality a genetical problem.

[Metrobilbao]

kind of like your very bad word use and poor sentence structure.

[Dominik19961017]

I' hate the homosexuality but that...the motherfucker worst hungarian idiots pride!!!

watch?v=63bKIQq2Iqw

In 2007, ugliest year!

[BettyByte]

Most of you springy chickens don't seem to realize that "A Very Natural Thing" is a feature film which you can probably still rent or purchase. What's ironic about some of the uninformed comments here is that the lead in this film desperately wants a monogamous relationship. Thanks, poster, for posting this Medium Cool--influenced excerpt -- it's great to see again. Apparently the tres beau Bo White is still around, though regrettably Robert Joel (Benjamin) isn't. Q&W, keep up the curiosity!

[Quickandwicked]

This is AMAZING!!! Thank you so much for posting it! This means a lot to me and is a great visual lesson for we younger generations of gay men. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!

[Holebis]

Lucky that this coverage of +30 years ago is still in your posession.

Holebis ♥♂♂,♀♀♥

[Travieso78702]

I was just a child in the 70's, so my teen years were in the 80's and post-AIDS. WOW, the 70's seemed so uninhibited. We were so careful in the 80's, but I remember the older gay men telling me stories. In my forties, I have more appreciated monogomy, and I thank God I survived the epidemic. Many of my friends didn't.

[jimj122680]

The problem with gays is they are too promiscuous. How many of these young men in this film clip died of AIDS? Many of them did.

[EngulfedHearts]

the last part with the two gay guys...it's eerie to me, in a sense. I know it was scripted and all but hearing two gay guys talk about gay rights in the 70s when things now are so different..and at the same time, so much the same...

It's just really interesting to see something like this; a real historical piece of work. Thank you for uploading.

[islezeus]

I wonder if those two guys at the end survived the AIDS epidemic of the 80s

[jimj122680]

Probably few of them did.

[islezeus]

Hey I dunno who thumbed me down but I do not agree with you, I have NOTHING against gays. I was simply wondering if they survived the epidemic. It was a liberating time and the party ended all too soon. This has nothing to do with promiscuity because the straights were doing the same thing at that time

[islezeus]

the two queens at 1:02 have some AWFUL perms!