I don't get it, i just don't. I know all about drug addiction and you are right, we know it is not good for us. The thing is, drugs have an addiction that is physical, and i don't get the whole scientology thing, and I'm truly wondering, all their crap about not taking drugs, of course it's not because they believe it for your health though they tell you that, i truly wonder if they do drug you to make you believe in it somehow, cause how do you get so brainwashed? I don't get it!
Tory, what was the "church's" reaction to the so many friends of yours that died. Did they even acknowledge it or offer their condolences for the deaths? Fucking Scientology needs to be done away with, it has ruined too many lives and families, and brainwashed so many believers. It's sad cuz these people have been so brainwashed by the cult that they don't even realize the evil things it's doing. Poor people, we need to help them wake up.
I've seen alot of vids on picketing and stuff against Co$, is it of utmost importance to keep anonymity? do they follow everyone who protests that they find? i mean i have a good getup that im going for but im just wondering if they follow pretty much everyone
Me and Kathy love to watch your videos. Tragic though the story may be, you spark up an interest and you make others think. Thank you for your efforts.
I knew one Scientologist who died of cancer. I don't believe she was Clear yet. The ED at the org she worked at told me that they had told her to go see a doctor and get medical treatment, but that it was her own choice to try and handle her cancer naturally.
Do you know if Scientologists on OT levels are more likely to try to handle their cancer "naturally" than Scientologists who haven't reached Clear yet? Because on the grades, there isn't any solo auditing or body thetans.
@RLSteve Good question, do more people try to use 'natural methods" on the lower bridge in Scientology, or on the "OT" levels. How many do, this I can't say. How many I knew who died.......far, far more died from OT 5-8 than lower levels. It is my opinion (and some top review auditors who left after seeing SO many OT 8's die) that literally the "OT" Levels help cause illness, even death. Why? Medical Science acknowledges what you envision WILL effect your body. They see dead beings 24/7 on them.
@ToryMagoo44 Jesus Christ, how many people died?? And what was the reason for them dying. Did the Church or any leaders within the church say anything about the OT 5-8's that died. That fucking sad, I bet the church didn't flinch about it.
@Markus484 Marcus: I'm not sure why, but my earlier response to this is gone. What I said is the person who had a crush, posted it wasn't about your brother. I *totally* understand how you feel about getting "every little information"---My Dad died when I was 22-----so ALL of my life I've met people who knew him, and I have loved hearing stories about him. My blessings to you and your family :) Tory/Magoo
@hangover71 links are right under Tory's video. Click on the little arrow to the right of it immediately below where it says "360p" in the frame and her comments will expand. The links are there.
@hangover71 Look up to where the views is posted. (bottom right, under video picture above). To the left of the views are 2 arrows ^ Click on those, the links are there. Also, from the front, under "more info" brings them up. :) Best to all...Tory/Magoo
Also my newest Nephew was born today at 2 AM April 14th just 3 days before my Birthday on April 17th, unfortunately I don't know his name yet.
Question: Do they throw people with Cancer into the RPF as well? I already know they put homosexuals in the RPF just because their deemed a mental illness & need to be cured.
@LinkBlink Happy B-day to you and your Nephew, too. No, they don't throw Homosexuals on the RPF. They *do* often put them into "Review" where they have
to pay to get "Fixed", but that's not spoken about. The ONLY People who are sent to the RPF are Sea Org Members, FTR. I'm not sure re Cancer---I was shocked to hear someone with MS was there, no matter what DM felt about him. Best :) TLC
Great advice again Tory. It's always so sad to hear about another tragedy through the cults stupid treatment of medical conditions. People need to see a trained medical doctor outside of scientology.
@Markus484 Markus, having lost my Dad when I was 22---I know SO much what you mean about "every little piece of information is very important to me". I've learned *tons* about my Dad, from people throughout the years, thankfully. The person who had that crush wasn't on your brother, it was on some other guy, FTR. May more facts about him come your way, as time passes. I loved your funeral, also. Blessings to you :) TLC
My husband has M.S. and putting someone with this disease out in the hot sun and subject them to hard labor can kill them. Ignorant bastards! All for the love of money! Thanks Tori for your important message.
@Markus484 You are so very welcome! If you're ever here again, give me a call. If you ever need any experience re medical abuse...I'm happy to help. Thanks for speaking and investigating re your brother ;) Love to you and your family, Tory/Magoo
@Markus484 You are so welcome, Marcus! Thank you for caring enough to come find out the specifics of what Scientology did to your brother, and making it public.
In all of the years I've been following you and scientology, I don't think I've read or heard about your brother yet. Very cool. He gets a happy birthday from me as well.
Hi Tory, the video you linked is part 5 of 5 of a German documentary. You might want to provide the link to part 1 of 5 instead, so they can watch it from the start. I watched the whole thing - was a great documentary.
I don't get it, i just don't. I know all about drug addiction and you are right, we know it is not good for us. The thing is, drugs have an addiction that is physical, and i don't get the whole scientology thing, and I'm truly wondering, all their crap about not taking drugs, of course it's not because they believe it for your health though they tell you that, i truly wonder if they do drug you to make you believe in it somehow, cause how do you get so brainwashed? I don't get it!
AccessorizeAlways 1 year ago
OMG hard labor for MS???????? omg......
AccessorizeAlways 1 year ago
They wanted him dead......
AccessorizeAlways 1 year ago
Tory, what was the "church's" reaction to the so many friends of yours that died. Did they even acknowledge it or offer their condolences for the deaths? Fucking Scientology needs to be done away with, it has ruined too many lives and families, and brainwashed so many believers. It's sad cuz these people have been so brainwashed by the cult that they don't even realize the evil things it's doing. Poor people, we need to help them wake up.
jtkalehua 1 year ago
I've seen alot of vids on picketing and stuff against Co$, is it of utmost importance to keep anonymity? do they follow everyone who protests that they find? i mean i have a good getup that im going for but im just wondering if they follow pretty much everyone
nicholas132 1 year ago
Happy Birthday to David! :)
dasboatbabe 1 year ago
Me and Kathy love to watch your videos. Tragic though the story may be, you spark up an interest and you make others think. Thank you for your efforts.
Nguli34689 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Tori, I have a question about the Channel 9 msn : Former Scientology member tells of forced abortions
I guess my question is; How is it that she had children with her husband, but the church wanted her to abort the children of her boyfriends?
I figure if anyone could explain this you could.
Again, TY for you're uploads and the information you put out!!!!!
KBFF 1 year ago
I knew one Scientologist who died of cancer. I don't believe she was Clear yet. The ED at the org she worked at told me that they had told her to go see a doctor and get medical treatment, but that it was her own choice to try and handle her cancer naturally.
Do you know if Scientologists on OT levels are more likely to try to handle their cancer "naturally" than Scientologists who haven't reached Clear yet? Because on the grades, there isn't any solo auditing or body thetans.
RLSteve 1 year ago
@RLSteve Good question, do more people try to use 'natural methods" on the lower bridge in Scientology, or on the "OT" levels. How many do, this I can't say. How many I knew who died.......far, far more died from OT 5-8 than lower levels. It is my opinion (and some top review auditors who left after seeing SO many OT 8's die) that literally the "OT" Levels help cause illness, even death. Why? Medical Science acknowledges what you envision WILL effect your body. They see dead beings 24/7 on them.
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago
@ToryMagoo44 Jesus Christ, how many people died?? And what was the reason for them dying. Did the Church or any leaders within the church say anything about the OT 5-8's that died. That fucking sad, I bet the church didn't flinch about it.
jtkalehua 1 year ago
@Markus484 Marcus: I'm not sure why, but my earlier response to this is gone. What I said is the person who had a crush, posted it wasn't about your brother. I *totally* understand how you feel about getting "every little information"---My Dad died when I was 22-----so ALL of my life I've met people who knew him, and I have loved hearing stories about him. My blessings to you and your family :) Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago
Scientology is criminal and dangerous and it must be stopped
wizz8080 1 year ago
Watched the Documentary you mentioned. If information like this stays accessible, the Co$ is finished. Respect!
KryztalMythStudios 1 year ago
the christmans just sound cool. pop was a football star. from chicago. mom stands up to a cult....i wish i were a christman!
jas22 1 year ago
I have watched the videos and they are so shocking and sad. Please keep up the good work Tory. You make a big difference. Peace!
alpeaston 1 year ago
sorry, I couln't find the vids you are talking about..
hangover71 1 year ago
@hangover71 links are right under Tory's video. Click on the little arrow to the right of it immediately below where it says "360p" in the frame and her comments will expand. The links are there.
punishyourma 1 year ago
@hangover71 Look up to where the views is posted. (bottom right, under video picture above). To the left of the views are 2 arrows ^ Click on those, the links are there. Also, from the front, under "more info" brings them up. :) Best to all...Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago
Great video, Tory and good point about the drug addiction.
mollie2810 1 year ago
Many thanks for posting
StopUnumNow 1 year ago
Happy Birthday David!
Also my newest Nephew was born today at 2 AM April 14th just 3 days before my Birthday on April 17th, unfortunately I don't know his name yet.
Question: Do they throw people with Cancer into the RPF as well? I already know they put homosexuals in the RPF just because their deemed a mental illness & need to be cured.
LinkBlink 1 year ago
@LinkBlink Happy B-day to you and your Nephew, too. No, they don't throw Homosexuals on the RPF. They *do* often put them into "Review" where they have
to pay to get "Fixed", but that's not spoken about. The ONLY People who are sent to the RPF are Sea Org Members, FTR. I'm not sure re Cancer---I was shocked to hear someone with MS was there, no matter what DM felt about him. Best :) TLC
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago
They don't, that I know of. If you've spoken with someone where that happened, please let me know...thanks.
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago
Great advice again Tory. It's always so sad to hear about another tragedy through the cults stupid treatment of medical conditions. People need to see a trained medical doctor outside of scientology.
musicgeniusno1 1 year ago
@Markus484 Markus, having lost my Dad when I was 22---I know SO much what you mean about "every little piece of information is very important to me". I've learned *tons* about my Dad, from people throughout the years, thankfully. The person who had that crush wasn't on your brother, it was on some other guy, FTR. May more facts about him come your way, as time passes. I loved your funeral, also. Blessings to you :) TLC
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago
Tory, can I get myself an SP declare? Or would that be borrowing trouble?
ChurchOfKali66619 1 year ago
My husband has M.S. and putting someone with this disease out in the hot sun and subject them to hard labor can kill them. Ignorant bastards! All for the love of money! Thanks Tori for your important message.
atticus9799 1 year ago
Oh Tory - Thank you so very very much for your compassion and your wise words here.
Love
Markus
Markus484 1 year ago 6
@Markus484 You are so very welcome! If you're ever here again, give me a call. If you ever need any experience re medical abuse...I'm happy to help. Thanks for speaking and investigating re your brother ;) Love to you and your family, Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago
@Markus484 You are so welcome, Marcus! Thank you for caring enough to come find out the specifics of what Scientology did to your brother, and making it public.
My blessings to you and your family! Tory/Magoo
ToryMagoo44 1 year ago
In all of the years I've been following you and scientology, I don't think I've read or heard about your brother yet. Very cool. He gets a happy birthday from me as well.
invadvice 1 year ago
Hi Tory, the video you linked is part 5 of 5 of a German documentary. You might want to provide the link to part 1 of 5 instead, so they can watch it from the start. I watched the whole thing - was a great documentary.
OpenComments 1 year ago