Def Poetry - Paul Flores - Brown Dreams

[98bigbutt]

When I think of Brown pride or Brown is beautiful,all I think about is shit.

[wchinos]

X'(

[ErrItsLucas]

ASSYRIAN SOIL, ASSYRIAN RIVERS

[loydbank33]

@sammyjs 1983

Our country is full of drugs and poor as shit. We owe like 14 trillion dollars which i think its sad that the word trillion is part of our common language.

[sammyjs1983]

stfu with your brown dearm...im brown...came here illigally(broke no laws) served the military (wasnt forced to join, WANTED to) got my college degree. All these people on Def do is blame the gov and them go back and smoke weed in their apts......

[colombiaking5150]

@sammyjs1983 ,wow first thank you for serving but i don't think you understood what he was saying , he never blamed the government , all he talked about was how much Hispanic immigrants have to sacrifice to gain equality in America . I understand you wanted to serve but as You stated you came to the states illegally so the only option you had to get a college degree was the military . Fransisco also WANTED to serve JUST LIKE YOU .

[colombiaking5150]

You and Fransisco have the same story , his ended with death yours with success thats the risk you both took to go to school . Fransisco was your brother in arms in a manner of speaking you should thank the poet for wanting tell his story not bash him and try to silence the story of fransisco

[madchunk5]

No comments on the peoms or the music anymore its just his view let it slide Chunky from Saint Lucia

[enjay2007]

Just so you know its about Pfc. Francisco A. Martinez Flores

[ED000111]

BLACKS HAVE AFRICA, WHITES HAVE EUROPE AND BROWN PEOPLE HAVE AMERICA... YOUR LIVING ON STOLEN LAND BUDDY AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THAT FACT,THAN GO BACK TO YOUR CONTINENT !!!!!

[thebigE32]

@ED000111 stolen land??? you can't own land....

[DuarteLay]

@ED000111 And I thought ignorance and stupidity had some sort of limit.... foolish me

[ED000111]

@DuarteLay i can tell you failed to comprehend my comment...either way theres no need to insult without purpose or without anything to gain!! if at all possible.

[DuarteLay]

@ED000111 You're right.... I got annoyed by all the comments I read and took it out on you.... sorry

[sammyjs1983]

@ED000111 if it wasnt stole this country would be like Mexico....full a drug and poor as shit

[ED000111]

@sammyjs1983 you know nothing about Mexico or the Americas before the invasion of the europeans and their way of life !!! SO PLEASE DO EVERYONE A FAVOUR AND STOP EXPOSING YOUR IGNORANCE!!!

[NinaSayra]

@sammyjs1983 we WERE strong. our fall was because of AMERICA. get your history straght.

[98bigbutt]

@ED000111,Not anymore pal because since 1492,we're all sharing the same land now.

[easybreezyfuckineasy]

yeah people drown and die because they dont want to wait in a line HAHAHA NOT TRUE people who come legally to the country HAVE A WAY TO OTHERWISE THEY DONT WHY DONT YOU FUCKING FIND OUT WHATS RLY THE TRUTH? NOT JUST WHAT UR RACIST ASS IGNORANT SOURCES SAY. IN SEVERAL OF THESE STATES MEXICANS WERE HERE FIRST AND UR GREEDY ASS PEOPLE STOLE OUR LAND

[benympls]

Spare me the sob story, how do you think most white people got their citizenship?  This dude doesnt know history. You know if he didnt want to do it the hard way he coulda actually waited in line & came into this country via legal channels... then he wouldnt be in this mess, follow the rules, crazy i know!

FYI america allows in MORE LEGAL immigrants than EVERY other country on earth COMBINED!

[romiiina]

@benympls

LISTEN TO THE FUCKING VIDEO, Pendejo! "Brown boy who didn't know much about education, who had only been a RESIDENT five years.." This is not about illegal immigration, oh professor of history. You shit head. It is about the US government's exploitation of LEGAL immigrants who join the military in exchange for citizenship, who then die in Iraq and get posthumous citizenship without equal military benefits. Prejudiced, selective hearing. FYI--you need literacy training.

[LALOE10]

"INSPIRING" and REALITY!!

[ummaryam86]

i really liked this poem!!! it speaks about a topic i have been wondering about for yrs!

[HassanXsaudi]

DEEP !

[CarlosBasurto]

Man I love it and no it not about the guy who killed that girl .... It about Franco ... I went to school with him ... And I know him ... Thank u

[tbn90r]

this was so moving

[bigs444]

Is this the same dude that killed the girl and got away with it????????

[champ4sho1]

Deep " barely a resident for 5 years but willing to die to become a student"

[Rhaxma]

Here is a man, speaking sincerely about hs\is concerns on stage in a beautifully verbose manner, and yet the likes of you philistines say that "his problems are incomparable" or "we've heard it all before." What about those who haven't heard, or who haven't compared the problems yet? What about those still trying to grasp or gather information about current events and how they affect the people?

At least your vile remarks will leave you a streak of infamy, notable only as "caustic criticism."

[RealHennessy]

he only talks about chicanos cuz he's chicano. he's not gonna walk up on stage talkin bout black people n asians n everyone. n stfu, u duno nothin bout him. for all u kno he could be talkin bout his brother or cousin or someone close to him wen he was talkin bout da man goin off to war to live in this country. get the facts before u start talking shit.

[MrEdisonification]

yo you stupid fuk why u talk about only chicanos u think there is no other nationalities in the military u fuking idiot

[CzarThePlezer]

@MrEdisonification Wtf, you want him to talk about every single race, and mixed race in this world,

listen closely,

he is not writing for you,

he is writing and speaking from his point of view,

if he knew how to be indian, indigenous american, black, Chinese then this would be a very different reply.

[missShmoo]

every minority speaks of themselves as being so oppressed. Everyone this country gave voting to every other minority that was a citizen except the Native Americans.

When have you ever heard for people lying about their age to be in the military, that was stripped them of everything.

Native American's should have been the 1st to becoming citizens, but were the last.

There are more people of other minority in different field when Native Americans are never consider for a chance.

[421grant]

open your eyes Chicanos....open your eyes....

[alliranch]

they got to die and work just like every other race that ain't white...stop complaining right, wrong...jump on the band wagon and join the club dude cause you ain't saying nothing that native americans and blacks already know...

[xxiluvallthePOISONxx]

I met him. He did this piece in our school chapel. Paul Flores is amazing. It was pretty funny, because while he was saying this piece, his son was doing a ballet. Anyhow, I love Paul Flores. He is a remarkable Spoken Word Artist.

[crrll28]

"The reality of the American Dream is dirty" wow this dude speaks the truth about us chicanos and anyother person coming to the U.S this gave me a reality check!

[quietchaos619]

thank you Garcia Lorca,

[lolzatricky]

This guy's my cousin. Good job Paul.

[421grant]

@lolzatricky i would like to get to know him and his knowledge hit me up bro...

[nicomateo23]

FAbulous!

[MultiPachuco]

Taking OUR LAND BACK

[hahahahahahahNO]

he remembered his last night out with his friends

how is mother had wanted to cook dinner for him

but he didnt wanna spend another hour in that cramped apartment where she cooked for six of his brothers, his two uncles and their compadres

instead

francisco invited jose and diego out to the movies

because that's what americans did.

[chivo1080]

what american dream?....this shit is real and deep..good shit..the army is always calling me...but...i was born in the us

[kaleexto]

if the moon smoothly slides by every corner, without any permission, then why the wetback needs to comprobate with a Visa that he is not from neptune?

if the "Universal Visa" extends the day we are born and caducates the day we die,

why do they chase you, wetback?

if heavens consulate already allowed you...

Our Universal Visa... is our life itself!

[kaleexto]

im just gonna leave a part of the song mojado by intocable and ricardo arjona... seems the right place ... maybe change some close minded people

Si la luna suave se desliza por cualquier corniza, sin permiso alguno, entonces porque el mojado presisa comprobar kon Visa ke no es de neptuno

si la "Visa Universal" se extiende.. el dia ke nacemos y caduca en la muerte... porke te persiguen mojado? si el consul de los cielos... ya te dio permiso

ill reply the translation

[definca]

wtf you can become a citizen by joining our military? wow, that was news to me. Perhaps we should tell the world we need the troops! Imagine how many people would LOVE to come to America but cannot just sneak across the border illegally.

So what are you saying even if this IS so? that our military should not allow you to join ? grant amnesty? what? come on in for free? You already HAVE that! Why cant MEXICO take care of ITS OWN PEOPLE? Why is your country so F'ed up? Sorry go home!

[vdiaz123]

theres so many reason why Mexico is in shambles, but by implying that the blame is solely on the government, and instead of considering the most powerful imperilistic government is just north of it, then...

sorry, for your lack of knowledge.

[definca]

Yeah, like how F'ed up Canada is now because we live just south of them, right? Mexico has many natural resources and doesn't even have to deal with severe cold and they do just fine and take good care of their citizens. Why has Mexico never come above poverty in the last 100 years?

Even with the help they got from all the money flowing out of the US to Mexico from illegals or from NAFTA manufacturing jobs leaving the US. Still a totally F'ed up country and nobody wants to live there, go read!

[PeaceLoveandFreckles]

@definca

Actually sir you should read.

Nafta takes money from Mexican corn, and other produce growers, causing them to lose their farms and the jobs they provide. [by underselling them] Jobless citizens then move to the cities to find work only to be disappointed. They then are recruited by American companies to do slave labor and minimal housing all so you can have .99 cent hamburgers.

You should really think about picking up a book.

[barrygd2]

this sounds like a personal problem

[415HolyGuy]

Flores Rocked the SF International Poetry Fest this past weekend. Quite a talent!

[ldbia]

Love it. This actually happens a lot.

One of my Brazilian friends was thinking about joining the military because of the citizenship.

I know a latina mother who saw her son going to the war "on terror" for this dream...

Great poem.

[manwithlaughingeyes]

Since when did America only mean "the united states of America"? Please educate yourself before ejaculate your masculinity as an attempt to sound intelligent. America is a continent that includes Mexico. Not a country.

Learn to actually think for yourself. What"s the point of listening to what you have to say when I can turn on the tv and hear the exact same things?

[manwithlaughingeyes]

hahaha what are you some kind of tv worshiping white supremacist? Go back to college and get an actual education in your hegemonic assalicious head. Slang carries no factual or technical weight. People who use slang for referring to geography either lack the education or are fucked with the kind of false knowledge that you wreak of. More whites feed of the welfare system than anyone else. You hear that. Fuck you. =D

[westhallghost]

obviously spoken word isnt for you because you only care about defending yourself instead of just listening to what the fuck he feels...fuckk off

[westhallghost]

that was for manwithlaughingeyes

[manwithlaughingeyes]

why try to point out something obvious? and who are you to say who spoken word is for? everyone has the right to defend himself. This poem raises some mixed feelings especially with the type of events that have taken place in the eight years. I can see that hes passionate about his performance and his art, but as far as his real feelings I cant say because only he knows what he feels. I can only relate to what he says and know what I feel. So you fuck off.

[benympls]

@manwithlaughingeyes i guess your point about whites being on welfare just proves that america isnt that racist after all... your comment is a racist fail

[eqgonzal]

@manwithlaughingeyes

you are ignorant..its not made up, its true...

Exactly you said it... whites are the burden to this country, not Mexicans....

[xxmsp91]

the poet in this clip is reffering to the U.S. even though he says the America.. ur cover complicating things.

[markee871]

this man is amazing!! his poem really hits home to me!!!!

people dont understand how strong this is!!

i put it as my main video on my profile!!

[roflwaffle12321]

oakland hell ya

[IAmSoul3]

i liked it but its more of a immigrants dream instead of an race or ethnicity struggle but i know how he feels i have a green card or wateva but his dream has hope not mine well when proffering 2 this that is other than that all hope is present

[malski4]

I love this poem. I am a Mexican young woman and I go to the University of Illinois. I live in a white society but inside I know I am Mexican and I am proud. When ever I feel like school is too much, this is what gets me through. Thank youuuu!

[atrevateyo]

This is a MSG to jimj122680. I agree, he should of emphasized more on the fact, that Latinos and Blacks, from the poorest places, are what makes up about 70% of the Military and are the ones defending and given there lives for this country so Homos like you can make these cowardly lil comments. So thank you, for reminding me (A NYC Latino 2 time Iraq Vet), that if it wasnt for us, where will we be as a country. P.S. BIGUP BARRACK.

[sarahology]

Was there something cut out, or was that just a glitch?

[jimj122680]

why doesn't he talk about all the illegals jumping our borders and spitting out anchor babies which they don't pay for, all the gangs that spread in hispanic neighborhoods because that's what hispanics do: gangbang and spray graffiti.

[headknockinhoney]

haha wow,

MAYBE: because, inthe U.S. of America, thats all people see in them & it takes the power of words to reveal the beauty in a race...& really: If thats all Hispanics do, Their race wouldnt stand up & out for this long... Hispanics are gettin noticed BIG time: in their music, in movies NOt for freakin gangbangin n graffin on walls???

[headknockinhoney]

I would assume thats wat youd see in all races too, b/c look around... You got gangs of all races.. .Goes to show you: theres Hatred N Theres beauty in all of us...and By that we, as mankind, can actually be catergorized,.

& You know what man, You really need to take those ignorant comments elsewhere

[ROCKYOLGUIN29]

SO SAD RACIST!!!!

[manwithlaughingeyes]

Because he feels that it would be better to address that racism still exist and the media sends cross signals that penetrate your feeble mind and take you on your hegemonic bad ass trip.

[LadySi0]

I find it hilarious when ignorant people can make stupid comments about something beautiful, happily and "bravely" doing so behind their computer screens...

[computerrlovee]

HE SAID "BROWN IS THE BUS RIDERS UNION" !!!

BRU, FOR REAL!

this was amazing, by the way.

THE BRU IS IN THE HOUSE AND IN THE FIGHT!

[rigster1343]

This Guy is really Good and Deep! He came to our School and Preformed! He also helps us make Poetry!

[detectiveMM]

While I agree with the message, this really isn't great poetry. I mean it's basically him just speaking with normal diction, but really fast at some times. When the message is that overt it takes away the poetry.

[xxmsp91]

nah dude, anything spoken or written with soul and passion is poetry. even if its just a few words.

[Taz36Guevara]

Loved it! It will either make you think its truth or open your eyes to a secret kept.

[kidreaper696]

i love this poem he brillance really shines in this piece

[animevisionary]

I would just like to say that paul Flores is a teacher of mine. I know him quite well. Despite what everyone is saying about his piece, this man is truly brilliant! He has opened up a new world for his students not only mentally, but artisticlly. I know many of you will have some type of bullshit to spit at this comment, but despite what you have to say he inspires those around him to better people and poets. There are not enough people like him around and I am blessed to have crossed paths!

[JudoPlayer619]

lol at you stupid queers being butt hurt because of what i said. btw illegals are a plague, and btw if i was shot and in the hospital, i have a good job, so i actually have insurance you dumb bastards

[yasnaixa]

ur also ignorant. the sad thing about the US is it allows dumb fucks like u to live here and poison its people. fuck u.

[brownmouse1985]

that was tight.

the haters need to read more.

[JudoPlayer619]

also, again i am mexcian american, and illegals are a plague on society

[SilverFlowingEyes]

Who the hell are you? Bill-O the clown?

Illegals aren't a plague on this fucked up society first of all, dumbass. And without them this country wouldn't even be able to sustain a produce baring place, such as Florida, or, most of our produce, since we rarely take in other countries produce imports.

'Illegals' help make up what this country is, if you don't realize that, then go pick up a book, because OBVIOUSLY Tido the Builder, you're missing some information concerning your peoples status.

[yasnaixa]

ur a plague to your own people.

[JudoPlayer619]

this pussy needs to shut his stupid mouth. you don't have to die for our country, but if you aren't willing to die for it, why are you freaking here??? oh yeah, and i'm Mexican, i just hate stupid idiots mexicans like this that make me look bad "why not extend citizenship to the family" why would they??? let them study and take a test, or serve. if you weren't born here, you don't just get to be American.

[SilverFlowingEyes]

It takes a Pussy and small man, to call someone else a pussy when he obviously is more informed than he is.

Fuck you, Fuck America, and all the Murdering, heartless, evil, God complexed, inhumane, lying thieves who founded her.

I would never fight for a country that has no real care for whom I am, and who starts wars for no reason other than political gain and oil.

If he fought for it, why not extend citizenship to his family? they DESERVE, SOME kind of repentance for their sons lost life.

[SilverFlowingEyes]

Keep thinking that America loves you Tido the Builder, because when it comes down to it, the constitution was NOT, I repeat NOT written with you in mind. Just like that lying bastard Abe Lincoln, you need to go get shot, and wake up in a hostpital with a medical bill, with so many damn zeros, you'd swear a number like that doesn't exist.

And see how much love your country will show towards you.

Tido the Builder, you are't a Mexican American to them, you're an Illegal, you're...a nigger. LOL

[yasnaixa]

ur stupid. I swear ur someone only a mother can be proud of.

[yasnaixa]

& i was talking to judo player 691

[kaleexto]

go listen to a song of Intocable and Ricardo Arjona - Mojado- is the name of the song...

[markee871]

sooooo strong! amazing! 5 stars! im out of words..this really hits hard!

[tehPhire]

that last line was ill

[palomalesm8]

ditto to what wutangx13 said...

This poem is great.

and for those ignorant people being completely racist with their comments, i ask you to please educate yourselves.

[palomalesm8]

ditto to what wutangx13 said...

This poem is great.

and for those ignorant people being completely racist with their comments, i ask you to please educate yourselves.

[wutangx13]

Sadly, there is another brown man dying today, just to earn his citizenship. Mad props for Paul Flores.

[nbm34]

this is bothe POIGNANT AND a brilliant insight.

BROWN DREAM IS A CLASSIC we need to be sending this to as many people as we can.

This POET SERVES mankind

[naissance0]

This is a great video because it speaks the truth.

In Solidarity with Immigrant Rights!!!

[valencis2]

So true! Right on...

[MADmentality]

illegal mexicans contribute more than ur average white american they work their asses off growing and harvesting our crops and playin the role of the crutch for our economy

AND most illegals work with other people social security numbers that means they work and pay taxes yet dont collect income tax

the money the US goverment saves on not payin them their hard earned income tax pays their way 10 fold so pick up a book on socialogy and geo-economics and politics before u speak so ignorantly

[zareave]

brown is the color of Americans you moron, its the color of the 'native' people of this land more real ass american then your fake ass will ever be.

[13m8trix]

You mean the ancestors who burned and gave smallpox infested blankets to Native American villages. The ancestors who took millions against their will and forced them to lose their name, culture, language, religion, heritage in order to, not be considered equal? You're talking about the true "Americans" who appear on the Leno show and can't even name the Vice President of this country? Or the ones willing to sacrifice everything this country stands for in order to preserve their way of life?

[Ricanprince]

Who the hell are you to judge people?

If you're so freakin concerned with "illegal people" then how about you live in another country, have nothing to your name but the clothes on your back, THEN see how you'd feel comin here?

And it's true, he's speakin on how they are stereotyped BECAUSE of some people that do cross the border, and they have to try and prove themselves.

Try out sympathy and understanding, let me know how it feels

[mali330ho88]

amazing...muy bueno...america needs to change change change...OBAMA

[juicyjuicybabe]

they are refering to Obama for president... you no? not OSAMA.... DUMBASS MUTHERF***

[MADmentality]

your old world of stereotypes ,fear tactics , and propaganda is nearing its end bro soon ur kind will be the ones who assimilate by 2017 mexicans and other latino races will be the majority so get used 2 us we are here 2 stay and u will soon be pushed out or intergrated theres no room in a modern society for primative tribalism you fool so evolve or be exstinct

PRAISE JESUS

[TonyOnlyandFriends]

whats funny is that your bragging about being the majority is america in a said number of years right?

well

us white people being the minority will get free programs, free college, and free everything because we know how to use a system that we made.

so youll still be working for us and doing whatever we say

you just wont know it

enjoy your stay

[MADmentality]

white people can get free programs now

i take a social welfare class i know the this countries system inside and out bro and im mexican u dont know shit i can tell ur ignorant cuz ur under the impression that only minorities benefit from free goverment assistance which isnt true we are all eligible for one or the other and the majority of these programs are for EVERYONE 2 share not just minorities

[MADmentality]

and we will see how much white people run shit when obama wins and he WILL

he will start a trend in this country more and more this countries ruling class will become more and more intergrated it will become more representative of its population

before u know it most white people here will have black or mexican cousins sisters mothers brothers fathers the pure race will no long exist ur racist species will have become extinct just like all other small brains create who cant adapt 2 change

[oki1985]

damm! this hits me! i am a mexican immigrant i joined the military. this is a brown dream. i love this shit its so true a citizenship and an education. this is our brown dream

[DanielleSherri]

affirmative action in the military but not in the university.. that was an awesome line

[Bellabellie]

Wow.

Brilliant.

There are so many poems about war, death, race, and regret, but each is so touching. Individually.

"Willing to die to become a student."

[freshadidas]

o and another thing

this country cant in no way bitch about people coming into it, because this emperialistic country has gone and influenced every single country, every single givernment in latin america, manipulated it to do wut it wanted, for the benefit of this country, they made every government their puppets, they became corrupt, now allllllll these poeple, "immgrants" are running away fromsomething this country created,

US...U CANT BITCH

[yasnaixa]

this made me cry.

[JudoPlayer619]

hahaha what a stupid faggot, it made you cry? it was a bunch of bull shit

[ThePoeticKB]

yo i just wanna say to ya'll cats, that it's not that easy to just go and march in Mexico...there's not as much freedom as the states...THAT"S WHY WE COME TO THE STATES! i fuckin hate hearin americans say how much Bush and this government sucks...Try livin in Central america and south america where in a lot of places it's so corrupt, think about Pinochet and the argentine, guatamalan, el salvadorian government, where they killed those who opposed them...ya'll need to think before ya speak...

[andlovesaidn0]

Hey man i know where your coming from. I'm Chilean and My father had to deal with Pinochet, he was tortured and then came to Canada as a political refugee. However, USA is corrupt and fucked up Same with Canada.. We're just good at hiding it. Of course not as bad, but Presidents and police are all corrupt, the odd time you'll find a loyal police worker.

[Kinowolf]

So because the US is better than Mexico, so we should stop trying to make it better? Think about what you just said, really sit and think about it.

[issues1oner]

pachacutec1781, I think you should go way back into the past & then try to live again in a world with no Mexicans or any Latin blood. You should watch the Documentary "Day without a Mexican" & see what you'll get without them. Be appreciative of the work colored people put in. We don't only do it for the honkeys, we do it to help us survive.

[pachacutec1781]

i think you are jumping the gun here. i was replying to naturewalkz. i agree we do it survive. and pflo rocks..

[pachacutec1781]

such ignorance. always blame the people. never the real cause of the problem. Pflo speaks a truth people don't want to acknowledge.

[naturewalkz]

I am for illegal aliens rights but IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!!!

THEY SHOULD FIGHT AND MARCH IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES...NOT HERE...BUT IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY!!!

[mentyola]

u don't get it do u

but then what can we say u are after all one of the privileged who work for absolutely nothing

listen to the words

he was a legal alien

a resident

do u comprende

or better yet i should say UNDERSTAND

[kingofthejugle]

u dont know what life is like in there country...tha statue of liberty stand for a country of immagrants...besides most california, arizona, and texas(where i live)..WAS PART OF MEXICO AND THE USA STOLE IT...remember tha battle of the alamo??? i live in san antonio...learn tha true history all america has EVER done is rape, pillage, and steal...shit they'eve even commited genicide.....

[Deathmonkey2006]

Without illegal aliens most Americans would not be able to go to restaurants or get a burger real quick at the corner. Why? Because there would not be people working in those restaurants. If yes, then you would not be able to afford to go there.

[naturewalkz]

SUCH COMPLETE AND TOTAL IGNORANCE!!!

how arogant to think that there will be noone working a job if an illegal were not working there...c'mon get off it!

many people, American Citizens were working those jobs...they are being taken away because illegals CHOOSE to do those jobs for a very low wage...ILLEGALLY!!!

those jobs belong to American Citizens...not illegal aliens...

[naturewalkz]

those jobs should go to youngsters that are starting to work! so that they learn good work ethics!

but now, its difficult for them and others to get those jobs because there are illegals wrapped around the building waiting in line to work for peanuts!!!

not good for the illegal or anyone else!!!

i would rather pay a little more for the burger than have all these other problems caused by illegal immigration!

[lolzatricky]

@naturewalkz you'd like to pay more for that burger? i take it you are a conservative. tea party? boycotting and protesting taxes? do NOT say you will pay more when your structure of political belief is based upon low ass taxes. you would NOT get payed $3 an hour to pick grapes all day. if there were no illegal immigrants, US workers would demand $8-$10 an hour to pick grapes. Down the economic line, that $7 difference between worker's pay would ammount to that burger being doubled.think bout it

[kingofthejugle]

ur tha only ignorant one here bro...most of america is fat and fuckin lazy...and u know it, but have been force fed so much fuckin bullshit propaganda u wont let urself see it.

[realhiphopmuziq]

legal immigration is good...

ILL;EGAL IMMIGRATION IS A CRIME AND IS DISPLACING MANY LEGAL AMERICANS FROM THEIR JOBS BECAUSE THEY ARE STEALING JOBS FOR LOWER WAGES AND THEN MARCH IN THE STREETS FOR HIGHER WAGES AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS HELPING THEM ALONG WITH BIG CORPORATIONS THAT LOOK UPON THEM LIKE SLAVES THATS WHY THEY BACK THEM UP...illegal immigration is bad all around!!!

LEGAL IMMIGRATION AND DOIN THINGS THE RIGHT WAY IS GOOD...

[txsilly]

They take jobs that many Americans fell are to beneath them. When was the last time a CEO or a assistant manager position was taken from a legal American and given to a immigrant.

[naturewalkz]

EVERY TIME a PERSON GETS CHOSEN FOR THE JOB SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY SPEAK SPANISH OVER ONE WHO IS COMPLETELY RIGHT FOR THE JOB...HE/SHE JUST DOES NOT SPEAK SPANISH...JUST ONE EXAMPLE...BUT THERE ARE MANY MORE!!!

[txsilly]

Oh you mean when someone has an additional skill set that someone else doesn't have thus increasing the companies diversity and versatility. Yea thats not fair why would a company do that. Shame on them shame. So you can't be mad the individuals who obtain the jobs but those that are giving them out.

[KChery]

really deep. I agree, because I know I'm not going to lose my life for citizenship even if I'm an immigrant. F*ck that "American dream" that most Americans don't have I'll go back home thank you. Fight your wars on your own, I'm not losing my life for those who hate me (kkk, white supremacists) to live free. God bless him. the meaning of this peom is don't join the army with the hope of citizenship.

[xoxo0092004]

I feel you KChery. I also felt that he was saying how ALL brown (colored) people in this country are used and sold this false dream of how America is the best especially to the young people so they can join the military.

[realhiphopmuziq]

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo­oooooooooo...why so many illegal aliens???

[KChery]

they come here for jobs, not for some "American dream" that only the top one percent of the population are living. Most Americans donnot live the American dream. For instance I'm an immigrant, but if you think I believe in the "american dream" think again. I came here to make money and go back home and chill, I'm not losing my life for not illusion such as the "american dream" whatever that meant.

[naturewalkz]

an immigrant? do you mean illegal alien? Why is it that people now a days are too soft to speak the truth?

How about make it happen in Mexico? As opposed to treating the US like a prostitute? Make your money and go home? That money youre makin is illegaly made! Being taken away form other LEGAL workers!...

[pachacutec1781]

why are you blaming the people? u really need to study the problem. its not the people but the companies that hire them. they are the ones that want cheap labor. but of course the companies..never get punished.

[freshadidas]

alien?

like if people fucken land here from fucken space on a spaceship and shit

alien?....that ahs to be the dumbest shit i ever heard, talking about the proper way to call them, how about ummm....actual citizens....i eman they were here first

[jbugzy]

the american dream is fuckn bullshit ... ur set up to fail

[shannonwilmer]

This man got a point here. This american dream will eat u up so fast.

[icecreamforlunch]

i wasnt geting audio :S

[merrillkid6]

poem is missing flavor...is too bland. pero la lucha continua.

[KChery]

No it's not. Very meaningful. Brown people don't join the army with that "citizenship dream".

[merrillkid6]

I agree in that the poem has flesh, but that flesh, in my opinion is missing articulation. Strong and poweful though.

[UCSC0610]

thid id fucking real talk coming from a latino point of view....like tupac said...the american dream aint nothing but another calculated scheme....R.I.P PAC!