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StarKiller is a clone in the part 2 game...Galen Marek aka (starkiller) died in the first game.... yes there is a dark apprentice but his mission was to not interfere in the light ending of SWTFU 2.... so he is still around somewhere watching and waiting....he was to only interfere if Starkiller striked Vader....(dark ending) So I hope theres a part 3 because StarKiller is the most bad ass Jedi/sith!! And the Light ending happened, the game only provides a dark ending if your just that curious.
This is the real starkiller. Vader did what they did in the lazurus project used to revive commander Shepard in mass effect 2 to revive Starkiller. Execpt vader did some tweaking to the upper part of the brain that controls memory to convince starkiller that he was nothing but a clone and Is the reason he is having those visions
Are you actually playing the Real Starkiller in this game or Is it Just a clone because the dark ending says that he's not a clone and the light ending says he's not a clone but the entire game says he's a clone and I'm just really confused.
@xXRedCelldwellerXx Just because you can't take a disambiguation of the original story doesn't mean we can't enjoy it. It was fantastically put together and played great the only shortcoming for this one was that it was twoo short and not enough diversity of levels. Even so I still play it today, so shut up rebel whiteboy.
okay someone clear this up for me: on Dagobah when yoda was alll hmm lost yourself you have blah blah blah and Galen went into the Cave of Evil and there were a bunch of other Galen's there was that where Vader just dumped the imperfect clones or was that just like all in his head?
@Tramnit1 dude so true thats what i keep telling everyone i hope the force unleashed 3 is longer than TFUII was and what would make it better is if it were even longer than TFU I
@bullrex1 no after awhile the empire starting using diffrent clones for the army from diffrent templates the 501st legion is entirely made up of fett clones the rest of the imperial army are other clones or just recruits
This ability to mass produce clones led to the expendable nature of the stormtroopers. While this is fine as stormtroopers are essentially cannon fodder, force users are not and require a good deal more time and energy to train. Much of a force using clone's life span would be spent training it. Which only meant an even shorter functional lifespan. Because of this the clones had little time before they went, as was said, "Batshit crazy". Okay I'm done.
It is well documented that Kaminoan cloning practices were far superior to that of their rivals. Unfortunately, the Kaminoan's cloning technology was not used for the cloning of any force users. The clones of, say, the Arkanians, were known to degrade after a certain period of time due to their short gestation time. THe empire's clones required a shorter gestation period and had a shorter functional lifespan than that of the Arkanians or Kaminoans.
Okay, there seems to be some debate on this issue. Force users CAN be cloned. However, it is common belief that the clones will be unstable. This is not strictly true. The emperor's clones were unstable due to three things: imperfect cloning technique, the immense forces wielded through said clones, and the sabotage of the emperor's cloning chambers (orchestrated by Carnor Jax). Luuke and Joruus C'baoth were unstable due to, once again, imperfect cloning technique.
@wiley5580 Just as you know... the stormtroopers arn't clones... seens the kamino cloning facility got destroyed the Empire started to recruit people to join the Empire...
@zirro93 Incorrect. The vast majority of the stormtrooper corps. are clones. However, the cloning facilities used after the loss of the Kaminoan ones did not have a production rate high enough to satisfy the military needs of the empire. That is why the empire started recruiting for the military instead of just cloning all of their soldiers. The end result: the imperial military was a split between clones and recruits.
@zirro93 Only the 501st legion was a complete regiment of Jango Fett clones once the empire was created. After that you are right, the imperial army started recruiting. . .unfortunately those recruits were idiots and earned the Imperial army it's bad reputation.
Something funny, the 501st legion was disbanded after Hoth, so the morons who fought on Endor were enlisted men, explaining why they got their asses kicked by teddy-bears.
@wiley5580 they were unstable because of the sped up cloning process wasnt it? because if i remember right from reading that trilogy it was explained that the reason there was a certain amount of required time to create a clone was because the force.if made to quickly they were mentally unstable. but the ysalmiri or whatever they were called blocked out the force so that the cloning could be done in a month without the mental drawbacks to the clones. sry about the big post btw. big SW fan XD
@wiley5580 The Emporor's personal clones where stable however, but they did degenerate and age rapidly due to the strain of his power. But I think that there were only two things keeping them stable, 1: that Bys was soaked in the dark side and 2: that the clones didnt have memory flashes, or even minds until their bodies had been taken over.
the real end of the real star killer is the light side, he fights the emperor and blow up all the shit he died but later at the same way as the dark side he was revived and turned to the dark side. juno,kota,boba fett and etc do no died.
luke was turned to the dark side for a short time and was trained by starkiller with some dark side moves to later turn to the light side an fight with vader.
@MadKakashi its events after the original trilogy. Palpatine gets cloned and then his spirit enters into the new vessel, basically bringing back from the dead. luke kills the revived emperor and i dont think he comes back again. i dont remember anything about luke being cloned though
@MadKakashi Well Luuke was batshit crazy and the Palps used possession to control his clones with his spirit, but Galvin's clone was considered "rational," despite being only focused on Juno like a starving dog trying to get a strip of bacon.
I always figured that the clone was possessed by the spirit of the first Starkiller, just like what Palpatine supposedly did with his clones.
@MetalScreamer802 and again what the fuck does that have to do with what I said? You're apparently a dumbass. Why the fuck do you keep saying "cloned jedi are weak?" who gives a flying fuck. No one is talking about how strong and it wasn't even brough up in the conversation they are the point is they can be cloned. How about you stay out of peoples conversations because you're apparently too fuckin stupid to understand basic english.
no, they were reconstructing him, i know he got stabbed in the chest, but there are a lot of things they had in that time period that can do that. subject 1138 is the clone that kills star killer on the tfu 2 bad ending
Darth. I think your awesome. Starkiller was definetly awesome. but you have to give up. Starikller is just going to keep disobeying you intil he really does die.
DON'T SEND ME ANY SPOILERS!! I haven't got force unleashed II yet. Please don't say starkiller is actually a clone because that will spoil the game. And don't confirm the fact he is still alive as that will spoil the game.
Please I'm begging you don't send me any news on the ending of the story or any major developments.
Little point of clarification on the whole "Jorus C'baoth" thing. Jorus C'Baoth was a Jedi master from the clone wars. Joruus (two u's) was the clone, and was insane either because the process to clone him was flawed or the clone fell to the dark side. Luke Skywalker was also cloned at one point, the hand that fell from Cloud City was recovered by the Emperor, but Mara Jade killed the clone, which happened to be Luuke Skywalker, which had also fallen to the dark side.
@lorthin123 da reason i think they dnt use vader as a clone is A-he didnt learn about da force till he was older and B-he didnt want da emperor to c another him wondering around
@MrLegna34 Yeah, but remember, your talking about a kid who was kidnapped, tourtured, and trained by DARTH VADER for nearly 15 years! Luke got, what?, 1 week with Obi-wan & 1 month with Yoda (t most) with 1 year to train HIMSELF before facing Vader? I believe Luke at his best would have been able to take Starkiller. It'd be a heck-of-a-fight!
@katarnlunney -__- LOL Starkiller wanted to fight though. Luke just did it because. I still think starkiller would have gripped,pushed,struck,electrocuted and torn Luke apart. Luke didnt even get to darth vader at all Starkiller completely crushed him.
they called him subject 1138 as a reference to George Lucas's first film, THX 1138.. 1157 implies they made about 19 clones.. Kota debunks vader's claim that marek in TFU II is a clone.. He survived.. and vader used the Spaarti Cylinder facility on Mt. Tantiss on Wayland to make his SK clones. Spaarti cylinders can clone subjects with midi clorians and all (Joruus Cbaoth, Palpatine Reborn and Luuke from the Zahn Books and Dark Empire)..
Whats the name of this song? i really like it it end starts at beginning and ends at 1:07. If you could give me the url link that would be great thanks.
To everyone insisting that THIS Starkiller is a clone; consider this: unless all of the flashes that Galen/Starkiller experiences can be attributed to genetic memory--which is impossible for humans--he CAN'T be a clone. Vader has a long history of using lies--with Force amplification--as a means of control; much like the Emperor did to push Anakin toward the Dark Side years before.
I'm more shocked that the Emperor not sensing Starkiller in the final Death Star scene comes as such a surprise to all of you. For the first time in 20 years or so someone not only held his ground against a full-strength lightning barrage, but walked up and grabbed him--a feat that to my knowledge, has NEVER happened before. Anyone who's ever had their bell rung knows that focus goes right out the window in a traumatic event, and that even recalling your own name can be difficult.
As for when Vader spaced him, on average; an unprotected human body can survive for 90 seconds in space. Starkiller wasn't out there that long. By the time the emergency door sealed the window, the recovery droid was already on it's way. The droid projected a containment bubble around Starkiller (similar to those used on hangar bays) filled with warmed, atmospheric air to keep him alive. Some freezing damage had been done, though, as evidenced by the arm graft we can see when he wakes up.
The terms "Lord Vader's experiment" and "subject 1138" are used because, according to Imperial records, Starkiller doesn't exist; and never did. In order to keep what was already a secret project going, Starkiller's anonymity had to be preserved. It had nothing to do with what version of clone he was, it's just a number. The Empirical is a research ship; everyone aboard knows that. As such, the phrase, "Lord Vader's experiment" would be as generic a statement as, "Lord Vader's Lunch."
It also bears mentioning that if the Starkiller that we play from the Empirical level on is a clone, then reconstruction would have been unnecessary; Vader would have simply activated the clone and we would play as a character who had never suffered nearly 15 years of tortuous training--meaning no scars or other damage. That creates its own set of problems, however. Without said training, if the player character were a clone, he would be significantly weaker and have no memory of his prior life.
A clone would not be aware that Vader had "killed him", either. Let's not forget that resuscitation techniques in the SW 'verse are FAR more advanced than ours. Han Solo was revived successfully--with no more damage than temporary "hibernation sickness"--after 3 YEARS frozen in a block of solid metal. To be fair, spacing him was the biggest favor Vader could have done for Starkiller considering the damage he had suffered. The extreme cold kept him preserved until he could be repaired.
@Dakarn That requires what's known as "genetic memory", similar to the way the knowledge and species history of the Go'a'uld symbiotes in Stargate SG-1 passed from one generation to the next. That being said, even then, specific memories of an individual were passed by genetic memory only within their own bloodline. And I don't know about you, but I've never gotten flashes of my great-grandmother's memories. According to all of my research, it just doesn't seem possible for humans to do that.
The point I'm trying to make (which is supported by what the game's designers have said) is that, as we all know, Vader--like all Sith--is a liar. It's one of the Sith's most commonly-used tools to manipulate situations and people. There is also a technique called "mind wipe"; whereby a force user can fragment, alter, or even erase a subject's memories. Pair that with the power of persuasion, and Vader could say anything; without any clear memory, Galen would have no choice but to believe him.
@GundamApollo Of course he can. While questioning Zam Wesell, Anakin used a technique called "dominate mind". It's a powerful mind trick variant. But dominate is not for making suggestions; it's used to command. The more focus and force energy a jedi or sith puts into it, the more painful and difficult it is to resist. Anakin leaned on Zam--HARD--battering down her will, and forcing her to reveal her employer's identity. Watch Obi-Wan's reaction, you'll see he knows exactly what Anakin is doing.
Another variant of mind trick is Dun Moch: the art of distraction and doubt--most commonly used by Sith. It's what Palpatine to orchestrate all of the events leading up to the Clone Wars. Vader used it on Luke, both on Bespin, and on the second Death Star; so, obviously, he knew how. An even less well-known mind trick variant is "force whisper" (Palpatine's voice in the background while Anakin paced around the council chamber in EP3); I'm sure Vader would have learned that technique, as well.
@GundamApollo They are one and the same, just like Obi-Wan/Ben Kenobi. Changing your name doesn't make you someone else, and trying to say otherwise is...misguided, at best. Your statement does not stand because it has no merit. More to the point, if anything, as Vader, he had even less limitations on what methods he could use to achieve a particular goal; to the point of outright cruelty.
With regard to your other--now removed--comment, what is a variant of a thing, if not the thing itself?
Starkiller in TFU2 is an experimental clone who underwent an accelerated process, which is in itself experimental. This Trailer is probably showing the "Memory Flashes" used to train the clones before birth, reducing the need to train them further once born. And don't bother replying saying I'm wrong, I've played the Demo, and this is the impression i've garnered from it.
You guys do know tha this trailer is fake, Starkiller was cloned (we dont know if we use a clone in the game) neither the novel or the comic gives clarity
in the first one when he had that shit on his face was it dirt from those planets cause they were kinda dirty... or was it what happens to sith lords when they turn to the dark side...?
who cares whether or not he was a clone we wil find out in the second one n if we dont big whup it doesn't really affect the fact that the starkiller you played with n the first one is dead n ur going to be playn as aclone in the second one
@yaboyfamousstunna but then why did vader have the droids take the "dead" body of starkiller when he was floating in space and also why did they have him in the medical center.
@yaboyfamousstunna but then why did vader have the droids take the "dead" body of starkiller when he was floating in space and also why did they have him in the medical center.
Subject 1138 refers to his holding number aboard the I.S.S. Empirical. The I.S.S. Empirical was not a cloning ship, but rather a modified cruiser designed to as a mobile research station for Vader. Galen was brought there after his near death encounter in hard vacuum ( having a hole in you stomach and multiple bone fragmentations doesn't help either lol). He was also called subject Zeta aboard the I.S.S. Empirical.
@yaboyfamousstunna if u read the novel when he gets healed on the imperial he goes on about how his body and force signiture are new and how all his childhood scars are gone so i agree he is a clone
@yaboyfamousstunna I think you might be right. But I always thought "subject 1138" may have been his number as a patient. After all, It did have a lot of medical equipment on the ship...
@yaboyfamousstunna if he was then why did vador save him so many times including when he fell into space and that medical droid saved him? dont get me wrong i agree with you im just asking a question
@yaboyfamousstunna, Galen marek aka starkiller was a powerful force-user. Vader trained him to become a unstoppable force from the time he was a boy to the time that he was knighted as Vader's secret appearentice. However do to the events in the first game, Galen converted to the light side and became a jedi. he was so strong that he defected his former master and the emporer as well but died in the prossess of protecting the senitor's that would lead the rebel alliance.
6)He also starts to remember everything little by little.
7)and this is one is crucial,Vader is obsessed with DEATH!,remember guys anakin couldnt let things go,hence padme.You really think that trait didnt carry to the darksideHe brought Galen back once who's to say he didnt do it twice but the second time whipe his memory
@Sky7x I'm guessing that this isn't a clone of starkiller. My theory is that starkiller was on the verge of death and vader saved him/brought him back and tried to clone him so not to deal with star killers change of ways.
@afshin021 Yeah, but remember, this is 1 year before the Battle of Yavin. At this time, there is no KNOWN case of a successful Jedi clone. Perhaps this is why Kota is so coffused on the issue. Kota says that the Kaminoans and the Khommites have tried for THOUSANDS of years attempting it. But eventually, the Khommites stopped trying and began to actually weed out Force Sensitivity from their family lines! Perhaps THIS is when Palpatine DISCOVERED how to transfer his essence into clone BODIES...
@katarnlunney@katarnlunney look up x1 and x2 and there was a jedi clone back in the day of the jedi exile i just forgot her name,it was a clone but just not stable , i think that starkiller has a mixture of vaders dna ,because they say he is made more powerfull ect and in the book in the first one they pretty much tell u hes a clone,so in a few days well find out lol
@Sky7x The question isn't whether you can clone a Jedi as it is keeping them sane. You CAN clone a Jedi, but because they are in touch with the Force, they become unstable. Joruus C'boath was an imperfect clone, mad and cofused with his identity. In the novel CROSSCURRENT, Jaden Korr discovered an Imperial plot to clone Jedi and SIth Masters, but they too suffered clone-madness and destroyed the outpost and their creators before escaping.
I think this is an awesome trailer! I cannot wait to get this game. November is such a good month for buying video games. Does anyone know what the name of this soundtrack is? Lovely piece of music and a great trailer
have they even successfully cloned a force user? in Episode 2 they talked about how the jedi were outnumbered and were not meant to be soldiers, you think they would've cloned more jedi durring the clone wars in order to rush victory. Just amagine... an army of yoda clones!
was i the only one who noticed that when he *deid* in the first game he never returned to the force ... he wasnt dead YET he was almost dead but wasnt is what i think. It was proble like a revan thing were he was almost dead ,but was barley alive and in the level where you are reserected in the first game he is called subject 1138... which is mentioned is the voice logs for subject 1157
oh god he did not clone him a read the graphic novel and the book... cause the graphic novel is the story based on proxys point of view and the book is based on star killers point of view wich is revealed his name that is galem his original name given by his dad... when he blacks out he sees the vision from his dad and the wookie skyhook before waking up, so he wasnt clone.
The only clones to never go insane were the ones of the Emperor, and that's because he used Sith Magic and Techniques to prevent it.
AgentCross420 5 months ago
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NickRauseo 7 months ago
2 best star wars game ever !
Blasphemerist 7 months ago
StarKiller is a clone in the part 2 game...Galen Marek aka (starkiller) died in the first game.... yes there is a dark apprentice but his mission was to not interfere in the light ending of SWTFU 2.... so he is still around somewhere watching and waiting....he was to only interfere if Starkiller striked Vader....(dark ending) So I hope theres a part 3 because StarKiller is the most bad ass Jedi/sith!! And the Light ending happened, the game only provides a dark ending if your just that curious.
bboycyl 8 months ago
This is the real starkiller. Vader did what they did in the lazurus project used to revive commander Shepard in mass effect 2 to revive Starkiller. Execpt vader did some tweaking to the upper part of the brain that controls memory to convince starkiller that he was nothing but a clone and Is the reason he is having those visions
sunfire421 8 months ago
@sunfire421 Dude! I fight clones of Starkiller in the game!!
LordBarrick 8 months ago
Are you actually playing the Real Starkiller in this game or Is it Just a clone because the dark ending says that he's not a clone and the light ending says he's not a clone but the entire game says he's a clone and I'm just really confused.
sunfire421 8 months ago
@xXRedCelldwellerXx dont underestimate the power of the dark side.
SuperReaper246 8 months ago
@xXRedCelldwellerXx Just because you can't take a disambiguation of the original story doesn't mean we can't enjoy it. It was fantastically put together and played great the only shortcoming for this one was that it was twoo short and not enough diversity of levels. Even so I still play it today, so shut up rebel whiteboy.
MrLegna34 10 months ago
okay someone clear this up for me: on Dagobah when yoda was alll hmm lost yourself you have blah blah blah and Galen went into the Cave of Evil and there were a bunch of other Galen's there was that where Vader just dumped the imperfect clones or was that just like all in his head?
133spartan117 10 months ago
@133spartan117 It's like in ESB. Luke dosn't realy cut vaders head of...
zirro93 10 months ago
@zirro93 so pretty much it was all in Galen's head then?
133spartan117 10 months ago
@133spartan117 It was in his head... Like when Luke went into the cave of evil and encountered and 'defeated' Vader...
PR3D3T3RR3R 10 months ago
@133spartan117 It was all in his head my friend :3
spartenalpha 8 months ago
great game but i wish it were longer
Tramnit1 10 months ago
@Tramnit1 dude so true thats what i keep telling everyone i hope the force unleashed 3 is longer than TFUII was and what would make it better is if it were even longer than TFU I
133spartan117 10 months ago
What song is this? Can somebody please tell me the name. Thanks.
thenoob9860 11 months ago
@thenoob9860 jaedonssexyvoice-dual of fates
scottyyyyyyy1 11 months ago
Lol fanboy nerds.
BelwinRed 1 year ago
starkiller is the strongest jedi/sith, stronger then Darth Bane is say :D
bboycyl 1 year ago
wtf
LordAssassin93 1 year ago
stormtroopers are clone just not of jangoo fett anymore tells you in battlefront two
bullrex1 1 year ago
@bullrex1 no after awhile the empire starting using diffrent clones for the army from diffrent templates the 501st legion is entirely made up of fett clones the rest of the imperial army are other clones or just recruits
brumerman 11 months ago
((Continuing both of my previous posts))
This ability to mass produce clones led to the expendable nature of the stormtroopers. While this is fine as stormtroopers are essentially cannon fodder, force users are not and require a good deal more time and energy to train. Much of a force using clone's life span would be spent training it. Which only meant an even shorter functional lifespan. Because of this the clones had little time before they went, as was said, "Batshit crazy". Okay I'm done.
wiley5580 1 year ago
((Continuing my previous post.))
It is well documented that Kaminoan cloning practices were far superior to that of their rivals. Unfortunately, the Kaminoan's cloning technology was not used for the cloning of any force users. The clones of, say, the Arkanians, were known to degrade after a certain period of time due to their short gestation time. THe empire's clones required a shorter gestation period and had a shorter functional lifespan than that of the Arkanians or Kaminoans.
wiley5580 1 year ago
Okay, there seems to be some debate on this issue. Force users CAN be cloned. However, it is common belief that the clones will be unstable. This is not strictly true. The emperor's clones were unstable due to three things: imperfect cloning technique, the immense forces wielded through said clones, and the sabotage of the emperor's cloning chambers (orchestrated by Carnor Jax). Luuke and Joruus C'baoth were unstable due to, once again, imperfect cloning technique.
wiley5580 1 year ago
@wiley5580 Just as you know... the stormtroopers arn't clones... seens the kamino cloning facility got destroyed the Empire started to recruit people to join the Empire...
zirro93 1 year ago 7
@zirro93 Incorrect. The vast majority of the stormtrooper corps. are clones. However, the cloning facilities used after the loss of the Kaminoan ones did not have a production rate high enough to satisfy the military needs of the empire. That is why the empire started recruiting for the military instead of just cloning all of their soldiers. The end result: the imperial military was a split between clones and recruits.
wiley5580 1 year ago
@zirro93 Only the 501st legion was a complete regiment of Jango Fett clones once the empire was created. After that you are right, the imperial army started recruiting. . .unfortunately those recruits were idiots and earned the Imperial army it's bad reputation.
Something funny, the 501st legion was disbanded after Hoth, so the morons who fought on Endor were enlisted men, explaining why they got their asses kicked by teddy-bears.
Torgo224 10 months ago 2
@wiley5580
The clones won't be unstable if George Lucas says so.
PainTrane01 1 year ago
@PainTrane01 correct
wiley5580 11 months ago
@wiley5580 they were unstable because of the sped up cloning process wasnt it? because if i remember right from reading that trilogy it was explained that the reason there was a certain amount of required time to create a clone was because the force.if made to quickly they were mentally unstable. but the ysalmiri or whatever they were called blocked out the force so that the cloning could be done in a month without the mental drawbacks to the clones. sry about the big post btw. big SW fan XD
TheBleachtrix 10 months ago
@wiley5580 The Emporor's personal clones where stable however, but they did degenerate and age rapidly due to the strain of his power. But I think that there were only two things keeping them stable, 1: that Bys was soaked in the dark side and 2: that the clones didnt have memory flashes, or even minds until their bodies had been taken over.
truemihealkeehl 9 months ago
trailer end suck -.-
leksss4 1 year ago
heres the REAL story of starkiller
the real end of the real star killer is the light side, he fights the emperor and blow up all the shit he died but later at the same way as the dark side he was revived and turned to the dark side. juno,kota,boba fett and etc do no died.
luke was turned to the dark side for a short time and was trained by starkiller with some dark side moves to later turn to the light side an fight with vader.
Spartanlyra 1 year ago
Can somebody message me the name of the song in the trailer please?
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"Jedi cna be cloned Luke has a clone named Luuke Skywalker and also Emperor Palpatine gets cloned and comes back through the clone"
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Spartanlyra 1 year ago
This game had so much potential but sadly fell very short
Metallicarulesall18 1 year ago
OMG u can play the game snake if u r waiting for a video to load when the little circle icon appears! just use the arrow keys to start!
metube142 1 year ago
is this for ps2 as well as everthing else?
TheGunny19 1 year ago
So, He's a clone, or not ?
xzx1990xzx 1 year ago
@xzx1990xzx Clone.
LordDarthVader100 1 year ago
the way they ended this game, i wonder if they could make it any more obvious that they are going to make a third game
jonrusso93 1 year ago
@rocafella142
Can someone explain to me what this person said.
"Jedi cna be cloned Luke has a clone named Luuke Skywalker and also Emperor Palpatine gets cloned and comes back through the clone."
MadKakashi 1 year ago 9
@MadKakashi its events after the original trilogy. Palpatine gets cloned and then his spirit enters into the new vessel, basically bringing back from the dead. luke kills the revived emperor and i dont think he comes back again. i dont remember anything about luke being cloned though
jonrusso93 1 year ago
@MadKakashi fix your gramer
lordrevan571 1 year ago
@MadKakashi cuz that´s was after this, starkiller was the first cloned jedi. makes sences chronologically
Zero50g 1 year ago
@MadKakashi Luke has no clones.
Sidious will return as an clone.
AhabVSKarma 1 year ago
@AhabVSKarma Luke had a clone in the Thrawn Trilogy Luuke Skywalker..mentally unstable....all that fun stuff
KeiranHorn30210 9 months ago
@MadKakashi but remember that this is before lukes clone and palpatines clone so maybe the force users clones began with starkiller
tafytr 1 year ago
@MadKakashi Well Luuke was batshit crazy and the Palps used possession to control his clones with his spirit, but Galvin's clone was considered "rational," despite being only focused on Juno like a starving dog trying to get a strip of bacon.
I always figured that the clone was possessed by the spirit of the first Starkiller, just like what Palpatine supposedly did with his clones.
KeybladeXMage 1 year ago
@MadKakashi It's a part of the extended story after the movies.There are novels written about what happens after Episode VI as you may know
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Lunage1 1 year ago
where did u get the video clips
stacyhinojosa39 1 year ago
King arthur music? i thought Lucas arts would have composed it themselves....pity
93tiny08 1 year ago
Jedi cna be cloned Luke has a clone named Luuke Skywalker and also Emperor Palpatine gets cloned and comes back through the clone.
rocafella142 1 year ago
@rocafella142 if u weren't stupid u would know that emperor palatines clones just lasted hardly for awhile
MetalScreamer802 1 year ago
@MetalScreamer802 what the fuck does how long the clones lasted have to do with what I said? the point is force users can be cloned dumbass.
rocafella142 1 year ago
@rocafella142 are u like fuckin stupid? even most jedi think u cant clone of course the can but they wont be as powerful
MetalScreamer802 1 year ago
@MetalScreamer802 and again what the fuck does that have to do with what I said? You're apparently a dumbass. Why the fuck do you keep saying "cloned jedi are weak?" who gives a flying fuck. No one is talking about how strong and it wasn't even brough up in the conversation they are the point is they can be cloned. How about you stay out of peoples conversations because you're apparently too fuckin stupid to understand basic english.
rocafella142 1 year ago
no, they were reconstructing him, i know he got stabbed in the chest, but there are a lot of things they had in that time period that can do that. subject 1138 is the clone that kills star killer on the tfu 2 bad ending
cucumber288 1 year ago
Darth. I think your awesome. Starkiller was definetly awesome. but you have to give up. Starikller is just going to keep disobeying you intil he really does die.
DON'T SEND ME ANY SPOILERS!! I haven't got force unleashed II yet. Please don't say starkiller is actually a clone because that will spoil the game. And don't confirm the fact he is still alive as that will spoil the game.
Please I'm begging you don't send me any news on the ending of the story or any major developments.
spidey8vader 1 year ago
3 hours into TFU2 and im fighting Gorog
started off as a clone
yaboyfamousstunna 1 year ago
Little point of clarification on the whole "Jorus C'baoth" thing. Jorus C'Baoth was a Jedi master from the clone wars. Joruus (two u's) was the clone, and was insane either because the process to clone him was flawed or the clone fell to the dark side. Luke Skywalker was also cloned at one point, the hand that fell from Cloud City was recovered by the Emperor, but Mara Jade killed the clone, which happened to be Luuke Skywalker, which had also fallen to the dark side.
SupaFlyJedi 1 year ago
This is exactly what I meant by look up Jorus C'baoth.
852Underground 1 year ago
Wouldn't it have been easier to have made clones of Vader?
lorthin123 1 year ago
@lorthin123 da reason i think they dnt use vader as a clone is A-he didnt learn about da force till he was older and B-he didnt want da emperor to c another him wondering around
plus wut if his clone overthrew him
lets find out da game is out today
yaboyfamousstunna 1 year ago
Does nobody know the track ?
KenpoIllidan 1 year ago
Starkiller would have destroyed Luke.
MrLegna34 1 year ago 26
@MrLegna34 i love playin the dlc as lord starkilelr and fuking up luke haha
afshin021 1 year ago
@MrLegna34 Yeah, but remember, your talking about a kid who was kidnapped, tourtured, and trained by DARTH VADER for nearly 15 years! Luke got, what?, 1 week with Obi-wan & 1 month with Yoda (t most) with 1 year to train HIMSELF before facing Vader? I believe Luke at his best would have been able to take Starkiller. It'd be a heck-of-a-fight!
katarnlunney 1 year ago
@katarnlunney -__- LOL Starkiller wanted to fight though. Luke just did it because. I still think starkiller would have gripped,pushed,struck,electrocuted and torn Luke apart. Luke didnt even get to darth vader at all Starkiller completely crushed him.
MrLegna34 1 year ago
@MrLegna34 he would have destroyed everyone
gameplayer117 1 year ago
I mean the Novel from The Force Unleashed I + II, you can buy this Books on Amazon. Searce for The Force Unleashed.
TheSerenety82 1 year ago
What music was used in the first half?
ritches48 1 year ago
they called him subject 1138 as a reference to George Lucas's first film, THX 1138.. 1157 implies they made about 19 clones.. Kota debunks vader's claim that marek in TFU II is a clone.. He survived.. and vader used the Spaarti Cylinder facility on Mt. Tantiss on Wayland to make his SK clones. Spaarti cylinders can clone subjects with midi clorians and all (Joruus Cbaoth, Palpatine Reborn and Luuke from the Zahn Books and Dark Empire)..
repoman182 1 year ago
this looks badass
xCatValentinex 1 year ago
you must read the book....... than you know the story.!
TheSerenety82 1 year ago
@TheSerenety82 which book?
thetopherhaslanded 1 year ago
starkiller will turn out to be Chris Angel!!!!!! mindfreak
cob367 1 year ago
Whats the name of this song? i really like it it end starts at beginning and ends at 1:07. If you could give me the url link that would be great thanks.
thenoob9860 1 year ago
To everyone insisting that THIS Starkiller is a clone; consider this: unless all of the flashes that Galen/Starkiller experiences can be attributed to genetic memory--which is impossible for humans--he CAN'T be a clone. Vader has a long history of using lies--with Force amplification--as a means of control; much like the Emperor did to push Anakin toward the Dark Side years before.
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
I'm more shocked that the Emperor not sensing Starkiller in the final Death Star scene comes as such a surprise to all of you. For the first time in 20 years or so someone not only held his ground against a full-strength lightning barrage, but walked up and grabbed him--a feat that to my knowledge, has NEVER happened before. Anyone who's ever had their bell rung knows that focus goes right out the window in a traumatic event, and that even recalling your own name can be difficult.
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
As for when Vader spaced him, on average; an unprotected human body can survive for 90 seconds in space. Starkiller wasn't out there that long. By the time the emergency door sealed the window, the recovery droid was already on it's way. The droid projected a containment bubble around Starkiller (similar to those used on hangar bays) filled with warmed, atmospheric air to keep him alive. Some freezing damage had been done, though, as evidenced by the arm graft we can see when he wakes up.
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
The terms "Lord Vader's experiment" and "subject 1138" are used because, according to Imperial records, Starkiller doesn't exist; and never did. In order to keep what was already a secret project going, Starkiller's anonymity had to be preserved. It had nothing to do with what version of clone he was, it's just a number. The Empirical is a research ship; everyone aboard knows that. As such, the phrase, "Lord Vader's experiment" would be as generic a statement as, "Lord Vader's Lunch."
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
It also bears mentioning that if the Starkiller that we play from the Empirical level on is a clone, then reconstruction would have been unnecessary; Vader would have simply activated the clone and we would play as a character who had never suffered nearly 15 years of tortuous training--meaning no scars or other damage. That creates its own set of problems, however. Without said training, if the player character were a clone, he would be significantly weaker and have no memory of his prior life.
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
A clone would not be aware that Vader had "killed him", either. Let's not forget that resuscitation techniques in the SW 'verse are FAR more advanced than ours. Han Solo was revived successfully--with no more damage than temporary "hibernation sickness"--after 3 YEARS frozen in a block of solid metal. To be fair, spacing him was the biggest favor Vader could have done for Starkiller considering the damage he had suffered. The extreme cold kept him preserved until he could be repaired.
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
@NCBikerBoy Unless the DNA taken from the dead Starkiller somehow contains the memory of the original.
Dakarn 1 year ago
@Dakarn That requires what's known as "genetic memory", similar to the way the knowledge and species history of the Go'a'uld symbiotes in Stargate SG-1 passed from one generation to the next. That being said, even then, specific memories of an individual were passed by genetic memory only within their own bloodline. And I don't know about you, but I've never gotten flashes of my great-grandmother's memories. According to all of my research, it just doesn't seem possible for humans to do that.
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
The point I'm trying to make (which is supported by what the game's designers have said) is that, as we all know, Vader--like all Sith--is a liar. It's one of the Sith's most commonly-used tools to manipulate situations and people. There is also a technique called "mind wipe"; whereby a force user can fragment, alter, or even erase a subject's memories. Pair that with the power of persuasion, and Vader could say anything; without any clear memory, Galen would have no choice but to believe him.
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
@Dakarn in the FU2 demo Vader says the memories (or visions) are a side effect of the advanced cloning process
Troop3r666 1 year ago
@NCBikerBoy Vader can't mind trick FYI
GundamApollo 1 year ago
@GundamApollo Of course he can. While questioning Zam Wesell, Anakin used a technique called "dominate mind". It's a powerful mind trick variant. But dominate is not for making suggestions; it's used to command. The more focus and force energy a jedi or sith puts into it, the more painful and difficult it is to resist. Anakin leaned on Zam--HARD--battering down her will, and forcing her to reveal her employer's identity. Watch Obi-Wan's reaction, you'll see he knows exactly what Anakin is doing.
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
Another variant of mind trick is Dun Moch: the art of distraction and doubt--most commonly used by Sith. It's what Palpatine to orchestrate all of the events leading up to the Clone Wars. Vader used it on Luke, both on Bespin, and on the second Death Star; so, obviously, he knew how. An even less well-known mind trick variant is "force whisper" (Palpatine's voice in the background while Anakin paced around the council chamber in EP3); I'm sure Vader would have learned that technique, as well.
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
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GundamApollo 1 year ago
@NCBikerBoy my statement stands. VADER. Not Anakin.
GundamApollo 1 year ago
@GundamApollo They are one and the same, just like Obi-Wan/Ben Kenobi. Changing your name doesn't make you someone else, and trying to say otherwise is...misguided, at best. Your statement does not stand because it has no merit. More to the point, if anything, as Vader, he had even less limitations on what methods he could use to achieve a particular goal; to the point of outright cruelty.
With regard to your other--now removed--comment, what is a variant of a thing, if not the thing itself?
NCBikerBoy 1 year ago
i CAN'T WAIT,IT IS SO SOON!
MrMachoman956 1 year ago
Starkiller in TFU2 is an experimental clone who underwent an accelerated process, which is in itself experimental. This Trailer is probably showing the "Memory Flashes" used to train the clones before birth, reducing the need to train them further once born. And don't bother replying saying I'm wrong, I've played the Demo, and this is the impression i've garnered from it.
balrog0444 1 year ago
arrggh ive heard the song before but I can remember where its from , cant wait for the game too :D
hsvjustin 1 year ago
ugh i hate confusing stuff
xXsecretxXBW 1 year ago
You guys do know tha this trailer is fake, Starkiller was cloned (we dont know if we use a clone in the game) neither the novel or the comic gives clarity
Dufase19089 1 year ago
in the first one when he had that shit on his face was it dirt from those planets cause they were kinda dirty... or was it what happens to sith lords when they turn to the dark side...?
DarthZulu12 1 year ago
@DarthZulu12 dirt
Midget5019 1 year ago
actually if you watch the E3 special betrayal trailer at the end vader walks in a room with an assload of clones of starkiller
Mattbradd 1 year ago
who cares whether or not he was a clone we wil find out in the second one n if we dont big whup it doesn't really affect the fact that the starkiller you played with n the first one is dead n ur going to be playn as aclone in the second one
Sephiroth1234100 1 year ago
if this is a fan trailer, it's one of the best I've seen
NorthstarBoarding 1 year ago
i think he was already cloned from the beginning
bcuz vader needed an apprentice n wen he found him he wuz only just a boy but knew da ways of da force
there for,even tho he wasnt strong a jedi is a jedi so clonned thousands of him
so even if he failed the new one would learn from the old clone and could continue on the mission
in the 1st TFU it does say in the background "subject 1138 has escaped"
meaning he was already da 1138th clone of galan(star killer)
yaboyfamousstunna 1 year ago 18
@yaboyfamousstunna you type like a retard
gamekid8413 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna no man theyre talking about boss...
clone commando rc-1138 leader of delta squad. after imperial commando he and delta squad desert...(republic commando easter egg not TFU refrence)
galwaypeters2 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna im sure there is an end 2 the confusing at the end of the game
spicywaffles88 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna but then why did vader have the droids take the "dead" body of starkiller when he was floating in space and also why did they have him in the medical center.
Shhhmanders 1 year ago
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@yaboyfamousstunna but then why did vader have the droids take the "dead" body of starkiller when he was floating in space and also why did they have him in the medical center.
Shhhmanders 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna 1138th? wtf?
nikolodeon55 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna
Subject 1138 refers to his holding number aboard the I.S.S. Empirical. The I.S.S. Empirical was not a cloning ship, but rather a modified cruiser designed to as a mobile research station for Vader. Galen was brought there after his near death encounter in hard vacuum ( having a hole in you stomach and multiple bone fragmentations doesn't help either lol). He was also called subject Zeta aboard the I.S.S. Empirical.
R3B3LH3R0 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna if u read the novel when he gets healed on the imperial he goes on about how his body and force signiture are new and how all his childhood scars are gone so i agree he is a clone
afshin021 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna wookiepedia talks about both of his parents
derekjtg 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna I think you might be right. But I always thought "subject 1138" may have been his number as a patient. After all, It did have a lot of medical equipment on the ship...
zathol1 1 year ago
@zathol1
u know i thought that too cuz da ship is soo dam big but at da same time u know vaders attitude y would he want n e one dat pissed him off alive
he force chokes dem himself
lol
yaboyfamousstunna 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna if he was then why did vador save him so many times including when he fell into space and that medical droid saved him? dont get me wrong i agree with you im just asking a question
stungful 1 year ago
@stungful bcuz maybe da clonin session wusnt complete
or maybe he jus wanted to get rid of the body
cuz after dat
all his scarss are gone and his force signature were new
lets find out today da game is out
yaboyfamousstunna 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna That was just a code name for a medical experiment to bring him back to life. He was the real galen all along
BetaBucky312 1 year ago
@BetaBucky312
yeah well in da second game u start off as a clone n u know ur clone
supposively galen died
yaboyfamousstunna 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna its just a number
starwarstheclone1000 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna 1138 Is the clone Commando Boss, it may be just a number reference
happyhowey 1 year ago
@happyhowey
1138 would be a reference to George Lucas' 1971 film "THX 1138"
thewookiee22 1 year ago
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@happyhowey
1138 would be a reference to George Lucas' 1971 film "THX 1138"
thewookiee22 1 year ago
@yaboyfamousstunna, Galen marek aka starkiller was a powerful force-user. Vader trained him to become a unstoppable force from the time he was a boy to the time that he was knighted as Vader's secret appearentice. However do to the events in the first game, Galen converted to the light side and became a jedi. he was so strong that he defected his former master and the emporer as well but died in the prossess of protecting the senitor's that would lead the rebel alliance.
graveseller1 1 year ago
it is obviously a fanmade trailer
clayheathcoat 1 year ago
does someone know the track?
KenpoIllidan 1 year ago
6)He also starts to remember everything little by little.
7)and this is one is crucial,Vader is obsessed with DEATH!,remember guys anakin couldnt let things go,hence padme.You really think that trait didnt carry to the darksideHe brought Galen back once who's to say he didnt do it twice but the second time whipe his memory
Jayrell06 1 year ago
1)you cant clone someone that powerful successfully
2)He cant be stronger then the original
3)why would vader not just let him go being that if he truely was a clone,cell degeneration would kill him anyways........
4)Kota sensed him,NOT HIS SOUL INSIDE THE CLONE.I highly doubt he would be wrong being that he's a jedi master
5)Yoda said he would have 2 find the truth inside himself
Jayrell06 1 year ago 5
Force users can be cloned; look up Jorus C'baoth.
Sky7x 1 year ago 21
@Sky7x I'm guessing that this isn't a clone of starkiller. My theory is that starkiller was on the verge of death and vader saved him/brought him back and tried to clone him so not to deal with star killers change of ways.
nightshade1124 1 year ago
@Sky7x Also look up Luuke Skywalker. No it's not a type O. That's Luke's clone's actual name.
omegax05 1 year ago
@Sky7x , cboth,x1,x2,sidious has been cloned like 20 plus times lol ,people are idiots sayin force users cant be cloned
afshin021 1 year ago
@afshin021 Yeah, but remember, this is 1 year before the Battle of Yavin. At this time, there is no KNOWN case of a successful Jedi clone. Perhaps this is why Kota is so coffused on the issue. Kota says that the Kaminoans and the Khommites have tried for THOUSANDS of years attempting it. But eventually, the Khommites stopped trying and began to actually weed out Force Sensitivity from their family lines! Perhaps THIS is when Palpatine DISCOVERED how to transfer his essence into clone BODIES...
katarnlunney 1 year ago
@katarnlunney @katarnlunney look up x1 and x2 and there was a jedi clone back in the day of the jedi exile i just forgot her name,it was a clone but just not stable , i think that starkiller has a mixture of vaders dna ,because they say he is made more powerfull ect and in the book in the first one they pretty much tell u hes a clone,so in a few days well find out lol
afshin021 1 year ago
@Sky7x The question isn't whether you can clone a Jedi as it is keeping them sane. You CAN clone a Jedi, but because they are in touch with the Force, they become unstable. Joruus C'boath was an imperfect clone, mad and cofused with his identity. In the novel CROSSCURRENT, Jaden Korr discovered an Imperial plot to clone Jedi and SIth Masters, but they too suffered clone-madness and destroyed the outpost and their creators before escaping.
katarnlunney 1 year ago
@Sky7x Yes. they can. but they invariably go insane shortly afterward.
NinjaxPrime 1 year ago
Yeah well, even so, Starkiller was probably to strong to be cloned. So I think he some how came back to life, and Vader just wiped his memories.
Silverterror 1 year ago
@Sky7x
Uhhhh... What do you mean?
Jorus C'baoth WAS a clone.
Nihm420 1 year ago
@Nihm420 He must have been cloned from someone right?
FreakyBow 1 year ago
have you not played number 1???
teddybear1829 1 year ago
@Sky7x or x1 and x2
bond5000 1 year ago
@Sky7x its an old sith trick long forgoten
lordrevan571 1 year ago
u r such a dumbass
javierandrap 1 year ago
Anyone who thinks that is a real trailer is a complete idiot
grazza96 1 year ago
Question: was that a real trailer? Because it was only clips from the game I'd already seen besides one, and oddly put together. Hmmm...
Alexrider808 1 year ago
I think this is an awesome trailer! I cannot wait to get this game. November is such a good month for buying video games. Does anyone know what the name of this soundtrack is? Lovely piece of music and a great trailer
WarriorOfShadows99 1 year ago 3
Poxsess:
No he cloned him. there's a scene with lots of different Galen Marek (Starkiller)'s in. They said he died. He did die and was cloned.
WolfytheWolf5667 1 year ago
have they even successfully cloned a force user? in Episode 2 they talked about how the jedi were outnumbered and were not meant to be soldiers, you think they would've cloned more jedi durring the clone wars in order to rush victory. Just amagine... an army of yoda clones!
7xprototype 1 year ago
@7xprototype it's the Empire. In a short story I read, it states how the Emperor wanted to make an entire army of cloned force users.
MarshalGeorgiZhukov 1 year ago
which song is it?
Gusztika3 1 year ago
He's a clone but he's different than the others. He's the first experiment.
Trunkline97 1 year ago
Who thinks hes a clone.....
cometvideos 1 year ago
@cometvideos I do.
The original died. There's no way the emperor would've missed sensing life in the body.
kaishiomo 1 year ago
'Juno' :D
soulfire667 1 year ago
I think that after galen's death his spirt came to his clone
dagothversur4 1 year ago
@Dufase19089 which lion king song ?
KenpoIllidan 1 year ago
i think someone else. like the writer decides about the story and Lucas approves it...
Lahirukevin 1 year ago
when you where on the medical frigate in part 1 vader already started cloning Galen.
jaspertheking4life 1 year ago
was good until 1:30, what was the music throughout?
3hundyz 1 year ago
My guess? Kota senses Galen's spirit in the clone, that's why he's confused about him being a clone
Palpatine may have learned from galen how to infuse his spirit into clones of himself, if you have ever read the comics
NeoGamemaster 1 year ago
lol this isnt even an actual trailer, you just spliced a bunch of scenes from the first one mixed with the website and screenshots
witchking3434 1 year ago
was i the only one who noticed that when he *deid* in the first game he never returned to the force ... he wasnt dead YET he was almost dead but wasnt is what i think. It was proble like a revan thing were he was almost dead ,but was barley alive and in the level where you are reserected in the first game he is called subject 1138... which is mentioned is the voice logs for subject 1157
aleanajadeskywalker 1 year ago
oh god he did not clone him a read the graphic novel and the book... cause the graphic novel is the story based on proxys point of view and the book is based on star killers point of view wich is revealed his name that is galem his original name given by his dad... when he blacks out he sees the vision from his dad and the wookie skyhook before waking up, so he wasnt clone.
TheViceBoys 1 year ago