I want to join the military because im not responsibile and this will help me be more responsible and i think it will open a lot of doors for me. Im also scared to face the world, i need to stop being a a lil b1tch. Air force here i come.
Yeah he wont be too tough when he comes back. There using depleted uranium in the artillery and small arms ammo. Killing innocent civilians just for the corporations. Pushing forward and putting your life on the line for Agenda 21. Let the children of the politicians and corporation scum go and do what the poor do! There fighting for our freedom? 9-11 was a inside job? We are not over there for our freedom! We are over there for Opium, Oil, and for the destruction of there land and people Truth
How can you encourage people to join the military like it's going to better them or be a good experience? Do the world a favor and put one in your fucking head. Dont listen to this idiot anyone, your life is worth more than being a fucking pawn or a mindless drone. Fuck this guy and fuck the troops.
@waywithoutgod Stand up comedian, you need to work on your jokes. They are losing their humor and becoming slightly offensive. Plus, I prefer not to have sex with this man (or any man), I am not a whore and I will not have sex with ALL of the female troops. Some of them though, oh yeah!
@waywithoutgod Some people need leadership. By the time I was 14 I was selling LSD so I fell like it was a good step for me. Plus by the time your out if you were smart enough you could have a good bit of cash at the end of the whole ordeal.
Ok i plan on joining the Marines when I graduate. I was trying to go in as a aircraft mechanic. I heard that in the Marine everyone is a rifleman does that mean I will be sent on patrols and have to fight on side infantry? Please answer. Cant trust recruiters these days.
The military is the biggest CULT on earth! They recruit, then isolate you, break you down, then brainwash, then indoctrinate, then send you out to do their dirty work and have you do it for peanuts! How sick is that?
Great video to the people that are thinking about the United States military. I enlisted into the Navy. I didn't do it for fame, pay, or thanks. I did it for the honor. The honor of taking that oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of Americana. I signed to help the people of this country. I know we army perfect, but I want to do my part. I find it honor able to lay down your life for this cause. Great video, and thank you for your service.
if you like being out in hot deserts and holding a gun and shootin shit while carrying heavy ass equipment and sell your life away while risking your own life all at the same time for some cheap ass pay .. then yeah sure, go for it ...
I did a video about how basic training is, hope you check it out. lots of little things to know, like i was so surprised that the food is pretty good.
I Don't trust Obama So I'm thinking if he gets elected again I'm not joining . But If we get someone better I Might Consider the Marines . But since I'm 18 I got alot of time to think about it lol
@fishermate1 You should try to be an officer because you put the time in for your education. You would get more pay off the bat, but more responsibilities. You would get more respect if you were prior enlisted, but you would be the new guy twice. Once for being a "boot" enlisted, and then when you go to officers training you'd be a "boot" again, kind of, until you hit the fleet. Depends on the job you want too. This is from the Marine's though. Could be different on the Airforce.
If I have a Bachelor Degree and am interested in joining the Air Force, should I try to be an officer? On the flip side, since I would be a "rookie" would I not have the same respect given to me as a more seasoned/experienced enlisted person? Does that make sense?
I just turned 19, i wan't to join the u.s marines aswell. Not necessarily, however, because of some sense of patriotism to my state but, instead i yearn for experience. Im shrouded by the veil of ignorance, there are some things i need to know, some things i need to see. I think that the marines will help me to better understand the world in which i was thrusted into, to help uncover my veil. I would really like some input on this (preferably from someone wise).
Keep in mind, I joined in 1982, active-duty Air Force. Twenty years later I was allowed to retire. However, due to service-connected injuries, I'm now 100% disabled at only 40 years old. What is your life worth?
Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the US yet one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current US military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights.
the government can take our rights away if we let them BUT if the military defends us from the foreign countries who want to destroy our way of life which means they would destroy our freedoms, therefore by defending our country they are also defending our freedoms
Joining the military may cost you your limbs, your mind, or even your life. There is no end in sight to the Iraq war. Many thousands were killed. Hundreds of these have had limbs amputated. Untold numbers suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder. Some soldiers will spend the rest of their lives unable to work. Don't trust the recruiter who tells you that you won't be sent to Iraq. They are getting so desperate that they are blatantly lying to potential recruits.
Joining the military means that you will be helping to carry out an evil, reckless, and interventionist U.S. foreign policy. Joining the military means that you will be expected to unconditionally follow orders. Joining the military means that you will be pressured to make a god out of the military. Joining the military means that you may be put into a position where you will have to kill or be killed.
i would like to thank you for your service, i am joing the Marines myself, however i was put on a waiting list due to my tier 2 education but i can use that time to work on my physical conditioning
i know this is a rather personal question but what changes did you expirance that made you stop "feeling" the military? what thoughts did you have and what brought them on? was wanting to raise a family part of it?
@BRONCOWEN I need to clarify I guess. After a bachelor's degree you can commission as an officer but you do still have to go to OCS so that you can learn what all an officer has to do in the line of duty.
I want to join the marines but people tell me the navy and airforce have better benefits. I want to travel and have better training, but I want to come out of service with more than a soldiers wit. Which branch has the best benefits as well as a good training program?
@KraftdinnerHD The Navy in my opinion is better trained and better benefited (the marines are ranked under the navy) DO NOT JOIN ARMY though, they may get better equipment but they are poorly trained and placed on the lowest rank besides rangers though. the marines is amazingly trained in combat(also know what job you what in your branch) the navy is basically trained all around pretty well and definitely better benefited but is a helluva lot harder, hope this helped :) i prefer marines though
@ampecsu no, every man is scared shitless when joining, any marine who said they weren't even slightly scared when joining are lying lol, just avoid the risk, you can do it it is for you/ don't let fear lock you down!
Your a true patriot for us all U.S. citizens. We the people are America, not the land itself. I want to join up but I do not want to kill anyone. How does death fix anything. Could you give me any advice on careers in the army that require peak physical fitness and stamina that do not involve me in any future ploys that go unrecorded in our history books. I want both the physical and mental training but will not discard the deep philosophical insight I feel I can share for America.
the only logical reason to join the army in my opinion is if you want to be a police officer or something in that kind of career field. otherwise, i can't see any possible sane reason to do this.
not corrupt government pigs? have a fun adventure when you end up in the middle east lol what a dumbass you are, like you actually have a choice or a voice.18 thumbs up means their are still 18 pawns who haven't learned the military is a joke. a business and you're the pawn in a chess game you know nothing about.
@kingvic97 In reality it might be true. But you have the power to actually prevent war crimes and military corruption. If i am sent to say Costa rica to fight against a drug cartel that has been terrorizing the local population I can put an end to the evils of that drug cartel. at the same time the Govt might be doing some of its own interests like stealing the oil from Costa rican grounds. Sadly thats how it seems too work.
@airforcerotc305 Cont: I try to keep bad things from happening over there and i have an oath to protect the weak from evil. If the stupid Govt wants to take oil what am I supposed to do? I want to help people who are in danger but at the same time I am working to protect the interests of the damn Govt. It sucks but I make sure to keep people from getting harmed.
@airforcerotc305 thanx for reply. my issue is being told to fight people i don't know. what if those cartel members are doing what they are doing because of corruption in their own govt and they are trying to sustain their way of life, just like me? I'm not down w/ killing somebody for someone else's reasons. i do respect any one who signs up but honestly, the people of this country could use folks like that in better ways. no one should have to join out of poverty. I'm conflicted on this.
@smellmyclock i know to people like you, i may seem that way.. but maybe some day you will grow to understand what im saying, and what im all about.. im not brainless, im not gutless, im not immoral.. im just wise enough to see what this goverment is doing to the people of america, and the rest of the world.. i respect men that want to defend their countrymen and loved ones... but you need to realize that being in this tool of destruction for a tyrannical goverment, is not how to do that
@smellmyclock you forgot to mention that the asvab "test" cant be failed. you just get a shitty job if your a stupid fuck. or they send you down the hall to the army or marine recruiter
@longfootbuddy the military hasn't ruin america, the people of america have ruined america. pushing technology so far that everyone just sits in front of a screen all day, no one talks face-to-face anymore, everyone overly concerned with living a lavish luxurious lifestyle full of unnecessary expensive things that they buy on credit and cant afford.. then the government uses the money assuming ppl will eventually pay it off but the fucks never do and now were in debt as a whole.
@bmathers21 THANK YOU SIR! EVERY SINGLE WORD IN YOUR COMMENT IS WHAT I BELIEVE!!! american soldiers are blamed for Americas flaws! but its not at all! its the idiots inside of of it!
@longfootbuddy the military hasn't ruin america, the people of america have ruined america. pushing technology so far that everyone just sits in front of a screen all day, no one talks face-to-face anymore, everyone overly concerned with living a lavish luxurious lifestyle full of unnecessary expensive things that they buy on credit and cant afford.. then the government uses the money assuming ppl will eventually pay it off but the fucks never do and now were in debt as a whole.
Too bad the government is cutting 50% of Veteran's pensions.. That's a real incentive isn't.. Or is it that they make you be an international terrorist. Meanwhile they tell the U.S. public, that we're fighting terrorist.. Tools
Not saying anything bad about you but when I think about it, I could be a older man and not really enjoyed life (not saying your life wasn't great) as a normal person. Or do I want to try to find a way to make it without the army. But when I think about the end of your video. In the end I will have a history my children can look back on my life wasn't a waste as I would have things saying I helped. I would be well off money wise. So it makes me think if I should join or not.Thanks for your video
I pretty well did the same thing as you.I put in a few more years and when I retired from USMC my MOS was 0369, Infantry Unit Leader.Just wondering what your MOS was.I think you said at one time you were a MP, which I was too early in my years.Also,I was wondering about scar's because I got scar's on my face and chest area.You got one on top right side of your face.Is that something you got over the years?I had started to develop PTSD.That took care of it.Have a good one.
@jakurmaskie do it! do it! do it! ROTC will be the best part of your military career, JROTC, ROTC, join join join im in JROTC and its the best part of my day
@jakurmaskie if you want to be an officer or have a 4-yr degree.. this is the best way to get commissioned. like its almost gauranteed.. ESPECIALLY for air force! do it! :)
@jakurmaskie If it was me, I'd go enlisted the go for OTS. In order to lead you need to understand what your dealing with. Best way to know who your dealing with is to be one.
@slingblade1977 you're forgetting veteran's preferences in government jobs and job experience that you have to put on a resume that will get you a job over almost any college graduate with the same degree as you without military experience. It's not just about the college money, it's also about the training that comes along with it. Not to mention the things you can experience through the military that the average person doesn't experience in a life time.
thank you for ur info for the CF im Canadian and grade 9 16 and i want to join the CF and go as a recond but i cant cuz of my ears but all that info on what ur state is wheather u want to go or not and i want to go as a black smith , sheet metal , iron man under the military mp librarian ( very ) i think u no that or u might not what u think might be a good option for me i do work out at school and i do not a hole lot of cardio at home but i can do some like i biked 60km some times
I would genuinely love to see any advocate or ex/member of the military to actually talk about the moral issues they tackled when deciding to join or not. From what I've seen, all people talk about is what the military can do for you and how it can throw lots of "opportunities", begins to sound like materialistic bribery to commit crimes against humanity. Akin to that of a hitman. I'm hoping it honestly entered your mind that what you do may be wrong on some level. Not trying to sound hostile.
first of all...the military isnt for everyone...ive been in for 5 years and i wouldnt have it any other way. to me personally its easier to be in than it is to be a civilian with the way the economy is but then again it isnt about the money. Ive done alot of really cool stuff, met some good people and i cant get enough of it. if you do decide to join, have a open mind and be prepared for a life changing event
i'm almost 18 and i realy want to join the military, but now i've heard the goverments not paying any soldiers and not giving them any benifites when there done with the military. I mean don't get me wrong, i have my good reasons for wanting to join but it would be nice to have benifits or support if your gonna risk life and death everyday
Air Force. Specifically the Linguistics AFSC, crazy stuff, really. I didn't get the scores for it, but I wanted to get into it, and it's crazy fun stuff from what I've heard.
before you do anything!! Shouldn't you learn what Money is!!?
I mean all the sheeps are running from morning to afternoon without knowing what the f. is the Bl. Money!!? That is why our so called masters lauf at us all!! Learn why America become America, and why America's time is over unless people start using their Brains. Learn why the so called Elit think they are GOD, and us ordinary people just sheeps. Nice Video thou...:-)
I would honorably join if someone explain me this whole thing and shows me Im wrong ...I use to be a US supporter , I admire it but as model of a democracy , HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO HELP FINANCIALLY TO HOSNI MUBARAK ? THAT IS A REGIME .......... FOR HOW LONG WAS HE ON POWER ? be the change you wish to see in the world that is no excample of democracy ...and irak , israel men!
transparent cause , something worth it all this soldiers are giving their life for democracy and freedom for a better world ,But we are so greedy and behind all this there is the bankers and corporations and their self interest , they don't care about common good , about the people ...its happening
My respect to you . it is an honor to hear you thank you ....I have to be sincere to myself, I should do some good research. I don't agree with current administration and what they are doing . There where no weapons of mass destruction , they lied to you . How can US support a leader like hosni mubarak , what was he doing with all that money . US is loosing credibility and has a very delicate exterior diplomacy , there is a lot of tension globally ......and to m y heart I fight for a
im 17 a senior went my local recruiter for a sit down we talked i took a practice asvab scored a 19 but i took an official asvab at school a few months before and scored a 36 i am currently working on memorizing the ranks, salors creed, general orders, and chain of command i not fat but not skinny either im around 5'9 195lbs 24% BMI no record no tats perfect health i do wear glasses yet he still seem a little unimpressed what is the best way to get him to give me contract and let me go to meps
@HardCoreKilla241 I can tell you from experience, if you join she will leave you. She may not do it right away, but eventually it will happen. It's not because you are aren't around as much as because you are both young. Even if you get somethig going now, chances are good, no matter what you do with your life, she will leave you or you will leave her anyway. IF you think you can let her go, which you need to do, then do it and join.
for anyone asking this question if your thinking about joining the military, if your in high school or college join JROTC or ROTC
JROTC is for high school and ROTC is for college
this program gives you a taste of the military life as to the mental side like learning common knowledge and military history but you also do physical activities as any other military personnel do daily.
I myself am in JROTC and is hoping to enlist in the marines as an infantry man
get real. it is against the oath taken when you join to ever reveal what you know without clearance. so what if a hint of conspiracy is intended? you mean you believe that our govt went to war on faulty intelligence? that is an excuse. you definitely should join the military if you want to let civilians wield your ass like a pawn then go for it. if you can't grow up without joining get busy. you need some help.
i am currently a sophemore in college and not enjoying it at all. I dont make the best grades because im lazy and feel like i have no structure within my own life. Should I just go ahead and enlist and come back later as a more mature and independent person and make better grades, or continue to get my degree and be an officer like i had originally planned?
U R a good man and a Mighty fine soldier!!! If GOD ALMIGHTY were 2 ask me about your integrity on judgement day I would give U a triple thumbs-up!!! I watched all 14:55 and I would have been proud 2 serve with U....U R a GREAT MAN!!! YHWH BLESS U Soldier!!! PEACE!!!
I joined the military just for the training to be honest. I went infantry and they gave me all the experience I could swallow and then some. I've been out for some time now and I still have retained many of my military mannerisms.
4 yrs Marine Corps from 88 to 92. wish when I got out, Iwould have understood how fast 20 yrs was gonna go by. the military is the best place for a professionally minded, hard working, under educated (meaning no college degree) individual who wishes to have a career with benefits and a retirement, but doesn't want or can't afford to go to college. and geez...SAR, can't believe how young I still am at 40!! keep up the good vids!
@Chriznak Yeah, but most states that don't have major gang violence have pretty liberal gun laws...California, NY, Maryland are among the strictest...but places like Alaska and Vermont have hardly any rules at all.
great video. ive heard alot of things about the military especially that they only use you and dont bother to help u later on. is this true? or did the people that told me this have bad experiences?
My father in law spent 30 years in the army, and he loved military life. However, by the time his 30 was up, he was glad to retire. Not because he was sick of being in the army, but because of what the military had become. I salute anyone who has served our country in any military capacity, and I salute you.
We weren't lied to about weapons of mass destruction. It was a simple intelligence failure. Nothing more. Nothing less. And there was a hell of a lot more reasons for why we removed the depraved and genoicidal Hussein regime than "only" weapons of mass destruction. The President layed out those justifications quite clearly numerous times. If you didn't agree with them, that's fine. But don't act as if the decision to support democratic revolution within Iraq was based on an evil conspiracy.
thanks i really needed this, im down in florida and this saturday the 18th Border patrol plans to hire 2500, im going to try to get in, but If that dosent go well which i hope it does, ill decide in a yr when theres a new president and decide then, to join the military, you da man steve
@LeathermanFan Not stories but info from unclassified briefings by general officers in the 90s that korea was a big concern because of North Korea but that the middle east, iraq, iran and afghanistan, would be the direction the military would face in the future.
Yeah, it's called common sense. Everyone who watched the news knew that the middle east was an unstable hot bed of anti-American jihadism. And Iran has arguably been our #1 security threat for over 30 years. They chant "Death to America!" on a weekly basis for goodness sakes. No crap military conflict with them is possible. And we've technically been at war with the Hussein regime in Iraq since Desert Storm and throughout the 1990s into the early 2000s. Another no brainer.
And al qaeda was well known to those that were informed on defense issues and global affairs long before 9/11. We knew they were based in Afghanistan but Clinton didn't take the threat from them seriously enough so he passed up the oppurtunity to take them out several times. It doesn't surprise me at all that our military leaders were keeping an eye on them. That's their job. I fail to see the conspiracy you're almost certainly hinting at.
So if you're trying to suggest, and I hope you're not, that we allowed the 9/11 attacks to occur so we could carry out some new Crusade in the middle east; you might want to take some of your own advice and do some careful thinking about that. In this case, and in the case of weapons of mass destruction, these supah sekret conspiracy theories can just be chalked up to simple bureaucratic incompetence. That's just the sad reality. People become complacent and then the tragedies occur.
Dude, shut up. Unless you served in the Military, you have no right to say that he's "hinting" at a conspiracy. He's not at all. If you went to Iraq, spent months/years there for an objective, and after about 4,000 American deaths that objective wasn't accomplished, or even substantial in the first place, because of "bad intelligence", I think you'd be fucking mad too.
@TooLateTomorrow LOL i love you americans OVER 4000 AMERICANS DEAD!?!?!? Ask yourself how many iraqi civilans died by the hands of american soldiers?!!? Much more than 4000: And objective was to find nuclear weapon which of course wasnt find and of course nobody is going to do about it and of course everybody knows that nuclear weapons was just decoy for real objectives- resources. One last thing: You americans arent only one on the world and certanly you arent blessed from god himself.
Okay, what's your point? I'm saying invading Iraq was a poor choice by our Government. Everyone knows that a lot of Americans and even more Iraqi civilians died, pretty much for nothing. It's sad.
They could've taken out Saddam Hussein and his sons with air strikes or SF just as "easily" as Bush decided to invade. It's pathetic decision making on his part and makes you wonder if he actually invaded for petroleum.
I think our Government has made a lot of stupid decisions, but that's only a testament to the people who elect the people who make those decisions into office. Unfortunately, half of America is just plain stupid. To say that we don't have any morals is just a plain ignorant statement. Also, we're not dangerous, we're smart. Other countries' military's have the ability to be dangerous. Look at the BRIC nations for instance, or terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda, Taliban, and Hamas.
your 13 i know it seems like you need to pick but youve got forever, dont rush
YMMeyer101 1 week ago
I'm 13 and I need to decide what to do a chef or a military soldier plz help and inbox me
paintballLegend4ever 1 week ago
@paintballLegend4ever you can always be a chef in the military.
gangstastyle55 1 week ago
I want to join the military because im not responsibile and this will help me be more responsible and i think it will open a lot of doors for me. Im also scared to face the world, i need to stop being a a lil b1tch. Air force here i come.
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Yeah he wont be too tough when he comes back. There using depleted uranium in the artillery and small arms ammo. Killing innocent civilians just for the corporations. Pushing forward and putting your life on the line for Agenda 21. Let the children of the politicians and corporation scum go and do what the poor do! There fighting for our freedom? 9-11 was a inside job? We are not over there for our freedom! We are over there for Opium, Oil, and for the destruction of there land and people Truth
MrCowboyjoe21 3 weeks ago
slaughter mothers and children
gallardowilliam 1 month ago
is that an 870 in the background
LucasWitt15 1 month ago
How can you encourage people to join the military like it's going to better them or be a good experience? Do the world a favor and put one in your fucking head. Dont listen to this idiot anyone, your life is worth more than being a fucking pawn or a mindless drone. Fuck this guy and fuck the troops.
waywithoutgod 1 month ago
@waywithoutgod FUCK the troops? you should be killed there the reason your ass is alive fuck you my brothers a marine.
iMAMACANTYOUSEE 1 month ago 4
@waywithoutgod fuck you
11bHOOAHH 1 month ago
@waywithoutgod Stand up comedian, you need to work on your jokes. They are losing their humor and becoming slightly offensive. Plus, I prefer not to have sex with this man (or any man), I am not a whore and I will not have sex with ALL of the female troops. Some of them though, oh yeah!
USAFFuturePilot 1 month ago
@waywithoutgod Fuck you US navy PO1
deadman66661 1 month ago
@waywithoutgod Some people need leadership. By the time I was 14 I was selling LSD so I fell like it was a good step for me. Plus by the time your out if you were smart enough you could have a good bit of cash at the end of the whole ordeal.
thatguru877 1 month ago
Ok i plan on joining the Marines when I graduate. I was trying to go in as a aircraft mechanic. I heard that in the Marine everyone is a rifleman does that mean I will be sent on patrols and have to fight on side infantry? Please answer. Cant trust recruiters these days.
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911 was a jew job - not muslim - here is the proof -
Larry Silverstein incriminates himself in only 24 seconds -
/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100
Israelis Admit on Live TV they had Prior Knowledge To 9/11 -
/watch?v=W8FlSWitOpg
halliburtoncrusher 1 month ago
I want to become an 18B, an Army Special Forces Sergeant, one of our Green Berets receiving specific training in weapons.
BlaringSnake40 1 month ago
Were u skinny when u joined? I want to but i'm worried i'm 5'11 and only like 155 -__-
hyderulez94 1 month ago
@hyderulez94 try 6'3 160...
werno175 1 month ago
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The military is the biggest CULT on earth! They recruit, then isolate you, break you down, then brainwash, then indoctrinate, then send you out to do their dirty work and have you do it for peanuts! How sick is that?
aceshigh8881 2 months ago
@aceshigh8881 eat shit, asshole. I don't get paid in peanuts.
LikeAstraightBOSS 2 months ago
Great video to the people that are thinking about the United States military. I enlisted into the Navy. I didn't do it for fame, pay, or thanks. I did it for the honor. The honor of taking that oath to protect the Constitution of the United States of Americana. I signed to help the people of this country. I know we army perfect, but I want to do my part. I find it honor able to lay down your life for this cause. Great video, and thank you for your service.
jka478 2 months ago
@Teamdu1 you dont have the balls to do what they do they fight for our country without them you would have no freedom
Pahrty 2 months ago
Military = Bunch of frustrated men fucking each other while their girlfriends lay down to dirty hippies and fuck for peace.
There is no adventure in sitting in a greenzone base all day long.
Wanna fight for your country? Rise the gadsden flag on capitol hill. Join the Border Patrol but for god sake do not join the globalist enforcers!
Foxtrott Tango Alpha.
Fuck the army
Weintraubeheld221 2 months ago
Some people dont do it for pay.
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if you like being out in hot deserts and holding a gun and shootin shit while carrying heavy ass equipment and sell your life away while risking your own life all at the same time for some cheap ass pay .. then yeah sure, go for it ...
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I did a video about how basic training is, hope you check it out. lots of little things to know, like i was so surprised that the food is pretty good.
soinlove8306 2 months ago
I Don't trust Obama So I'm thinking if he gets elected again I'm not joining . But If we get someone better I Might Consider the Marines . But since I'm 18 I got alot of time to think about it lol
pballa321123 2 months ago
@fishermate1 You should try to be an officer because you put the time in for your education. You would get more pay off the bat, but more responsibilities. You would get more respect if you were prior enlisted, but you would be the new guy twice. Once for being a "boot" enlisted, and then when you go to officers training you'd be a "boot" again, kind of, until you hit the fleet. Depends on the job you want too. This is from the Marine's though. Could be different on the Airforce.
O8WRx 2 months ago
If I have a Bachelor Degree and am interested in joining the Air Force, should I try to be an officer? On the flip side, since I would be a "rookie" would I not have the same respect given to me as a more seasoned/experienced enlisted person? Does that make sense?
fishernate1 2 months ago
@fishernate1 Dude, go officer. More pay + better chance for rank
LikeAstraightBOSS 2 months ago
@LikeAstraightBOSS Its a lot harder to go up in rank as an officer. you get two tries then you get the boot.
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I just turned 19, i wan't to join the u.s marines aswell. Not necessarily, however, because of some sense of patriotism to my state but, instead i yearn for experience. Im shrouded by the veil of ignorance, there are some things i need to know, some things i need to see. I think that the marines will help me to better understand the world in which i was thrusted into, to help uncover my veil. I would really like some input on this (preferably from someone wise).
LifePixelated 3 months ago
Keep in mind, I joined in 1982, active-duty Air Force. Twenty years later I was allowed to retire. However, due to service-connected injuries, I'm now 100% disabled at only 40 years old. What is your life worth?
rockbay79 3 months ago
Joining the military does not mean that you will be defending the country. The purpose of the U.S. military should be to defend the US yet one of the greatest myths ever invented is that the current US military somehow defends our freedoms. First of all, our freedoms are not in danger of being taken away by foreign countries; if they are taken away it will be by our own government. It is not a country making war on us that we need to fear, it is our government making war on the Bill of Rights.
animaregius 3 months ago 18
@animaregius actually you are only partly right..
the government can take our rights away if we let them BUT if the military defends us from the foreign countries who want to destroy our way of life which means they would destroy our freedoms, therefore by defending our country they are also defending our freedoms
spaceninja199 3 months ago
@animaregius u r an asshole
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Joining the military means that you will be helping to carry out an evil, reckless, and interventionist U.S. foreign policy. Joining the military means that you will be expected to unconditionally follow orders. Joining the military means that you will be pressured to make a god out of the military. Joining the military means that you may be put into a position where you will have to kill or be killed.
animaregius 3 months ago
i would like to thank you for your service, i am joing the Marines myself, however i was put on a waiting list due to my tier 2 education but i can use that time to work on my physical conditioning
i know this is a rather personal question but what changes did you expirance that made you stop "feeling" the military? what thoughts did you have and what brought them on? was wanting to raise a family part of it?
HunterKiller308 3 months ago
Do I agree with the current administration? Hah...and they say there is no such thing as a dumb question.... lol
RockerRocco1 3 months ago
I want to join so I can police the world
0688223 3 months ago
@0688223 you are a very ignorant individual
HunterKiller308 3 months ago
7:00-7:45, I like how you mention honor, it's a quality I don't want to see become extinct here in the u.s.
CombatMedicBuddy 3 months ago
How good does your health have to be to join the army?
DemonRazor88 3 months ago
whats a good website to get a better asvab score ??
mitsubishi433 3 months ago
@mitsubishi433 military.com. they have a 216 question sample asvab.
atheistjacob 3 months ago
If I go to a private college for four years can I join the Army as an officer?
BRONCOWEN 4 months ago
@BRONCOWEN get in the ROTC and thats one way you can
freeandaccepted357 3 months ago
@BRONCOWEN if you receive at least a bachelor's degree, then yes you can commission as an officer right after basic training.
atheistjacob 3 months ago
@atheistjacob You don't need to do OCS? As soon as you complete basic if you have a bachelor's you're a second lieutenant?
BRONCOWEN 3 months ago
@BRONCOWEN I need to clarify I guess. After a bachelor's degree you can commission as an officer but you do still have to go to OCS so that you can learn what all an officer has to do in the line of duty.
atheistjacob 3 months ago
@atheistjacob That's what I thought haha
BRONCOWEN 3 months ago
I want to join the marines but people tell me the navy and airforce have better benefits. I want to travel and have better training, but I want to come out of service with more than a soldiers wit. Which branch has the best benefits as well as a good training program?
KraftdinnerHD 4 months ago
@KraftdinnerHD The Navy in my opinion is better trained and better benefited (the marines are ranked under the navy) DO NOT JOIN ARMY though, they may get better equipment but they are poorly trained and placed on the lowest rank besides rangers though. the marines is amazingly trained in combat(also know what job you what in your branch) the navy is basically trained all around pretty well and definitely better benefited but is a helluva lot harder, hope this helped :) i prefer marines though
usmcburleson 4 months ago
@usmcburleson the army is poorly trained marine? hmpph I think not.
CombatMedicBuddy 3 months ago
thanks for making this video
nic0dem8D 4 months ago
I'd join in a heartbeat if it wasn't for the death risk
ampecsu 4 months ago
@ampecsu Once you do join, you are taught to ignore that.
usmcburleson 4 months ago
I would have to be taught that BEFORE i joined. I guess it's just not for me.
ampecsu 4 months ago
@ampecsu no, every man is scared shitless when joining, any marine who said they weren't even slightly scared when joining are lying lol, just avoid the risk, you can do it it is for you/ don't let fear lock you down!
usmcburleson 4 months ago
Your a true patriot for us all U.S. citizens. We the people are America, not the land itself. I want to join up but I do not want to kill anyone. How does death fix anything. Could you give me any advice on careers in the army that require peak physical fitness and stamina that do not involve me in any future ploys that go unrecorded in our history books. I want both the physical and mental training but will not discard the deep philosophical insight I feel I can share for America.
exploittruth 4 months ago
I am going to serve for the experience, adventure and the brotherhood among men, not corrupt government pigs. I will honor the tradition.
airforcerotc305 5 months ago 49
the only logical reason to join the army in my opinion is if you want to be a police officer or something in that kind of career field. otherwise, i can't see any possible sane reason to do this.
moviemanwill 3 months ago
@airforcerotc305
not corrupt government pigs? have a fun adventure when you end up in the middle east lol what a dumbass you are, like you actually have a choice or a voice.18 thumbs up means their are still 18 pawns who haven't learned the military is a joke. a business and you're the pawn in a chess game you know nothing about.
IslamIstheWayforMe 2 months ago
@IslamIstheWayforMe Thanks for your polite and informative comment. You must be the smartest person here on youtube.
airforcerotc305 2 months ago
@airforcerotc305 but you work for corrupt govt pigs. and they are your bosses.
kingvic97 1 month ago
@airforcerotc305 therefor your doing their bidding.
kingvic97 1 month ago
@kingvic97 In reality it might be true. But you have the power to actually prevent war crimes and military corruption. If i am sent to say Costa rica to fight against a drug cartel that has been terrorizing the local population I can put an end to the evils of that drug cartel. at the same time the Govt might be doing some of its own interests like stealing the oil from Costa rican grounds. Sadly thats how it seems too work.
airforcerotc305 1 month ago
@airforcerotc305 Cont: I try to keep bad things from happening over there and i have an oath to protect the weak from evil. If the stupid Govt wants to take oil what am I supposed to do? I want to help people who are in danger but at the same time I am working to protect the interests of the damn Govt. It sucks but I make sure to keep people from getting harmed.
airforcerotc305 1 month ago
@airforcerotc305 thanx for reply. my issue is being told to fight people i don't know. what if those cartel members are doing what they are doing because of corruption in their own govt and they are trying to sustain their way of life, just like me? I'm not down w/ killing somebody for someone else's reasons. i do respect any one who signs up but honestly, the people of this country could use folks like that in better ways. no one should have to join out of poverty. I'm conflicted on this.
kingvic97 1 month ago
@airforcerotc305 Good man.
SamHubydee 1 week ago
Can I join with add?
iiSocrates 5 months ago
@iiSocrates yeah just don't mention it at MEPs
MrMase12 5 months ago
tried to join the national guard a few years ago but i have a bad knee they didn't let me
masterofnotmuch 5 months ago
if you have no brains or morals, join the military of our tyrannical goverment...be the mindless muscle behind an evil agenda that has ruined america
longfootbuddy 5 months ago
@longfootbuddy u sir are a dumb shit
theres a test called the "ASVAB" which means, u gotta have brains to be in it, not just common sense
hell there are scholar athletes i know tht decided to join the military, why?
cus they wanna fight for the self fish fucks like u, they wanna protect our country, they arent just brainless, amoral idiots
seriously ur comment is stupid
smellmyclock 5 months ago 5
@smellmyclock i know to people like you, i may seem that way.. but maybe some day you will grow to understand what im saying, and what im all about.. im not brainless, im not gutless, im not immoral.. im just wise enough to see what this goverment is doing to the people of america, and the rest of the world.. i respect men that want to defend their countrymen and loved ones... but you need to realize that being in this tool of destruction for a tyrannical goverment, is not how to do that
longfootbuddy 5 months ago
@smellmyclock by the way, do you really expect me to take you seriously... smellmyclock? seriously? thats even worse than my name
longfootbuddy 5 months ago
@longfootbuddy cus my name?
so lets say ur joining teh army, u talk to a recruiter, but his name was "Bigbutt FUcktard"
would u take his advice? fuck ur an idiot, just becus my name? rly...
smellmyclock 5 months ago
@smellmyclock well i think bigbutt fucktard is a good name for an army recruiter.. very fitting for the job
longfootbuddy 5 months ago
@smellmyclock you forgot to mention that the asvab "test" cant be failed. you just get a shitty job if your a stupid fuck. or they send you down the hall to the army or marine recruiter
jsmorel86 1 month ago
@jsmorel86 lol ye
smellmyclock 1 month ago
@longfootbuddy the military hasn't ruin america, the people of america have ruined america. pushing technology so far that everyone just sits in front of a screen all day, no one talks face-to-face anymore, everyone overly concerned with living a lavish luxurious lifestyle full of unnecessary expensive things that they buy on credit and cant afford.. then the government uses the money assuming ppl will eventually pay it off but the fucks never do and now were in debt as a whole.
bmathers21 5 months ago 2
@bmathers21 THANK YOU SIR! EVERY SINGLE WORD IN YOUR COMMENT IS WHAT I BELIEVE!!! american soldiers are blamed for Americas flaws! but its not at all! its the idiots inside of of it!
usmcburleson 4 months ago
@longfootbuddy the military hasn't ruin america, the people of america have ruined america. pushing technology so far that everyone just sits in front of a screen all day, no one talks face-to-face anymore, everyone overly concerned with living a lavish luxurious lifestyle full of unnecessary expensive things that they buy on credit and cant afford.. then the government uses the money assuming ppl will eventually pay it off but the fucks never do and now were in debt as a whole.
bmathers21 5 months ago
Too bad the government is cutting 50% of Veteran's pensions.. That's a real incentive isn't.. Or is it that they make you be an international terrorist. Meanwhile they tell the U.S. public, that we're fighting terrorist.. Tools
JOCAMPO87 5 months ago
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51Saffron 6 months ago
great video
redhcp101 6 months ago
can i join wen iam 20 years old?
MegaOrci 6 months ago
@MegaOrci
legal age to join is 18.
finessewes9119 6 months ago
@finessewes9119 Actually, Legal age to join is 17 years old.
iguardcalifornia 6 months ago
@iguardcalifornia wow i had no idea. thanks.
finessewes9119 6 months ago
@finessewes9119 No problem.
iguardcalifornia 6 months ago
very good video
ChocolateLoverROFL 6 months ago
I LOVE that American flag on the wall.
ChristopherSinnosuke 6 months ago 2
great video u talked about both sides of the argument
TheMontanto 7 months ago
I respect you bro but I disagree with you there were wmds
thereddog223 7 months ago
as a veteran, i agree with you 100%. things couldn't have been said better. this is a GREAT video about the subject. thank you.
BootlegBilly 7 months ago 2
Not saying anything bad about you but when I think about it, I could be a older man and not really enjoyed life (not saying your life wasn't great) as a normal person. Or do I want to try to find a way to make it without the army. But when I think about the end of your video. In the end I will have a history my children can look back on my life wasn't a waste as I would have things saying I helped. I would be well off money wise. So it makes me think if I should join or not.Thanks for your video
gamerplay 7 months ago
I pretty well did the same thing as you.I put in a few more years and when I retired from USMC my MOS was 0369, Infantry Unit Leader.Just wondering what your MOS was.I think you said at one time you were a MP, which I was too early in my years.Also,I was wondering about scar's because I got scar's on my face and chest area.You got one on top right side of your face.Is that something you got over the years?I had started to develop PTSD.That took care of it.Have a good one.
profsat5 8 months ago
What would your opinion on ROTC be?
jakurmaskie 8 months ago 13
@jakurmaskie do it! do it! do it! ROTC will be the best part of your military career, JROTC, ROTC, join join join im in JROTC and its the best part of my day
dethbang13 6 months ago
@jakurmaskie It's for faggots
zachfresh 5 months ago
@jakurmaskie if you want to be an officer or have a 4-yr degree.. this is the best way to get commissioned. like its almost gauranteed.. ESPECIALLY for air force! do it! :)
Direx230 2 months ago
@jakurmaskie If it was me, I'd go enlisted the go for OTS. In order to lead you need to understand what your dealing with. Best way to know who your dealing with is to be one.
daredeval756 2 months ago
If you have a brain, don't join the military. There are better ways to get college money.
slingblade1977 8 months ago
@slingblade1977 you're forgetting veteran's preferences in government jobs and job experience that you have to put on a resume that will get you a job over almost any college graduate with the same degree as you without military experience. It's not just about the college money, it's also about the training that comes along with it. Not to mention the things you can experience through the military that the average person doesn't experience in a life time.
xJakex068 8 months ago
marine: My Ass Rides In Navy Equipment
hurricanenet31 8 months ago
thank you for ur info for the CF im Canadian and grade 9 16 and i want to join the CF and go as a recond but i cant cuz of my ears but all that info on what ur state is wheather u want to go or not and i want to go as a black smith , sheet metal , iron man under the military mp librarian ( very ) i think u no that or u might not what u think might be a good option for me i do work out at school and i do not a hole lot of cardio at home but i can do some like i biked 60km some times
siner117 9 months ago
I would genuinely love to see any advocate or ex/member of the military to actually talk about the moral issues they tackled when deciding to join or not. From what I've seen, all people talk about is what the military can do for you and how it can throw lots of "opportunities", begins to sound like materialistic bribery to commit crimes against humanity. Akin to that of a hitman. I'm hoping it honestly entered your mind that what you do may be wrong on some level. Not trying to sound hostile.
JonathanHassall 9 months ago
first of all...the military isnt for everyone...ive been in for 5 years and i wouldnt have it any other way. to me personally its easier to be in than it is to be a civilian with the way the economy is but then again it isnt about the money. Ive done alot of really cool stuff, met some good people and i cant get enough of it. if you do decide to join, have a open mind and be prepared for a life changing event
LegKilla 9 months ago
hmm I wonder what the guy with a shotgun and a don't tred on me flag thinks of the us military?
brandtaylor93 10 months ago
i'm almost 18 and i realy want to join the military, but now i've heard the goverments not paying any soldiers and not giving them any benifites when there done with the military. I mean don't get me wrong, i have my good reasons for wanting to join but it would be nice to have benifits or support if your gonna risk life and death everyday
rogan200139 11 months ago
Great video gave me a lot to think about
myboyblue91 11 months ago
I am looking to get into military intelligence, but can't decide if I should go army or marines. any suggestions?
ttigs44 11 months ago
@ttigs44
Air Force. Specifically the Linguistics AFSC, crazy stuff, really. I didn't get the scores for it, but I wanted to get into it, and it's crazy fun stuff from what I've heard.
EpsilonKias 8 months ago
I don't know if I join in 3 years time I mean i caN live with killing someone but is the mint good bad or is the war a bad place to go to
danielcoppock 11 months ago
before you do anything!! Shouldn't you learn what Money is!!?
I mean all the sheeps are running from morning to afternoon without knowing what the f. is the Bl. Money!!? That is why our so called masters lauf at us all!! Learn why America become America, and why America's time is over unless people start using their Brains. Learn why the so called Elit think they are GOD, and us ordinary people just sheeps. Nice Video thou...:-)
AnglesM888 11 months ago
thanks! i like the Boy Scout comment by the way ;)
drum192192 1 year ago
i wont to join the air force for a long time but i dont no if wont to join. i am scared a little i love to fly but i dont no if i can make it.
technomaster222 1 year ago
I would honorably join if someone explain me this whole thing and shows me Im wrong ...I use to be a US supporter , I admire it but as model of a democracy , HOW THE HELL ARE YOU GOING TO HELP FINANCIALLY TO HOSNI MUBARAK ? THAT IS A REGIME .......... FOR HOW LONG WAS HE ON POWER ? be the change you wish to see in the world that is no excample of democracy ...and irak , israel men!
bsmoe1 1 year ago
transparent cause , something worth it all this soldiers are giving their life for democracy and freedom for a better world ,But we are so greedy and behind all this there is the bankers and corporations and their self interest , they don't care about common good , about the people ...its happening
bsmoe1 1 year ago
My respect to you . it is an honor to hear you thank you ....I have to be sincere to myself, I should do some good research. I don't agree with current administration and what they are doing . There where no weapons of mass destruction , they lied to you . How can US support a leader like hosni mubarak , what was he doing with all that money . US is loosing credibility and has a very delicate exterior diplomacy , there is a lot of tension globally ......and to m y heart I fight for a
bsmoe1 1 year ago
im 17 a senior went my local recruiter for a sit down we talked i took a practice asvab scored a 19 but i took an official asvab at school a few months before and scored a 36 i am currently working on memorizing the ranks, salors creed, general orders, and chain of command i not fat but not skinny either im around 5'9 195lbs 24% BMI no record no tats perfect health i do wear glasses yet he still seem a little unimpressed what is the best way to get him to give me contract and let me go to meps
jr7rockets 1 year ago
@jr7rockets if your asvab is that low theres probably not a whole lot of jobs you qualify for.
cloudpaladin 11 months ago
@HardCoreKilla241 I can tell you from experience, if you join she will leave you. She may not do it right away, but eventually it will happen. It's not because you are aren't around as much as because you are both young. Even if you get somethig going now, chances are good, no matter what you do with your life, she will leave you or you will leave her anyway. IF you think you can let her go, which you need to do, then do it and join.
sempergumbyusmc 1 year ago
for anyone asking this question if your thinking about joining the military, if your in high school or college join JROTC or ROTC
JROTC is for high school and ROTC is for college
this program gives you a taste of the military life as to the mental side like learning common knowledge and military history but you also do physical activities as any other military personnel do daily.
I myself am in JROTC and is hoping to enlist in the marines as an infantry man
XxL3G1TxXVIDZ 1 year ago
i appreciate all but i have a feeling your making it sound too good better than it is lol and what do you think about the air force?
th3toiletguy9111111 1 year ago
get real. it is against the oath taken when you join to ever reveal what you know without clearance. so what if a hint of conspiracy is intended? you mean you believe that our govt went to war on faulty intelligence? that is an excuse. you definitely should join the military if you want to let civilians wield your ass like a pawn then go for it. if you can't grow up without joining get busy. you need some help.
sob1952 1 year ago
Honestly I don't know I want to join but I don't know
hbondvd 1 year ago
911 was an inside j o b.
the "war on terror" is a fraud.
building 7 is the smoking gun.
buggsmalone 1 year ago
i want to join but both of my parents say no and if i do join they will stop talking to me and i dont want that to happen :( so idk what to do...
auroraionaa 1 year ago
@auroraionaa Then they arent good parents and you dont need them
saj12100 9 months ago
I'm going to get the military scholarship. Free education for three years of service. Serving my country and helping my future. What could be better.
EvanGravelle 1 year ago
Good Video. Hats off to the guys that make a career out of the military. I did my 4 in the corps and got the hell out.
760guy 1 year ago
Does the same thing go for women in the army...in other words do the women go into combat?
MsTAYSHAUN 1 year ago
i am currently a sophemore in college and not enjoying it at all. I dont make the best grades because im lazy and feel like i have no structure within my own life. Should I just go ahead and enlist and come back later as a more mature and independent person and make better grades, or continue to get my degree and be an officer like i had originally planned?
12jfowler 1 year ago
@12jfowler don't join.. do anything else.
buggsmalone 1 year ago
you can earn that structure with the power of will , if you want to really change ....l
bsmoe1 1 year ago
this is a very helpful video for me. thank you.
jeremycfer 1 year ago
U R a good man and a Mighty fine soldier!!! If GOD ALMIGHTY were 2 ask me about your integrity on judgement day I would give U a triple thumbs-up!!! I watched all 14:55 and I would have been proud 2 serve with U....U R a GREAT MAN!!! YHWH BLESS U Soldier!!! PEACE!!!
zyruemusic 1 year ago
@zyruemusic
more senseless military baloney.
funny how a christian nation has the largest military in the world.
the dude is a man. he served. listen to what his experience teaches. digest and decide.
too bad our govt has not used the military to protect and serve. military is a necessary evil not a glorius occupation.
sob1952 1 year ago
I joined the military just for the training to be honest. I went infantry and they gave me all the experience I could swallow and then some. I've been out for some time now and I still have retained many of my military mannerisms.
romeodelta1178 1 year ago
I'm in college right now, and I'm concidering joining the Marine Corps when I finish. I just don't know if it's thr right move or not...
Patriot725 1 year ago
4 yrs Marine Corps from 88 to 92. wish when I got out, Iwould have understood how fast 20 yrs was gonna go by. the military is the best place for a professionally minded, hard working, under educated (meaning no college degree) individual who wishes to have a career with benefits and a retirement, but doesn't want or can't afford to go to college. and geez...SAR, can't believe how young I still am at 40!! keep up the good vids!
jwgbmp40 1 year ago
@RugB346 good job using the word liberal in its true sense
Chriznak 1 year ago
I'm in DEP for ARMY right now baby. Going in as an E4 and plan to apply for OCS down the road.
scuds03 1 year ago
too bad your firearms are subject to the state laws of whatever state you get located to.
Chriznak 1 year ago
@Chriznak Yeah, but most states that don't have major gang violence have pretty liberal gun laws...California, NY, Maryland are among the strictest...but places like Alaska and Vermont have hardly any rules at all.
RugB346 1 year ago
I get out in 2 weeks... and it's for the exact same reasons..
pranachimana 1 year ago
great video. ive heard alot of things about the military especially that they only use you and dont bother to help u later on. is this true? or did the people that told me this have bad experiences?
MrPatron79 1 year ago
Focus to achieve is right.
coffeefish 1 year ago
My father in law spent 30 years in the army, and he loved military life. However, by the time his 30 was up, he was glad to retire. Not because he was sick of being in the army, but because of what the military had become. I salute anyone who has served our country in any military capacity, and I salute you.
thebudgetarmory1 1 year ago
We weren't lied to about weapons of mass destruction. It was a simple intelligence failure. Nothing more. Nothing less. And there was a hell of a lot more reasons for why we removed the depraved and genoicidal Hussein regime than "only" weapons of mass destruction. The President layed out those justifications quite clearly numerous times. If you didn't agree with them, that's fine. But don't act as if the decision to support democratic revolution within Iraq was based on an evil conspiracy.
TaskForceSixTwoSix 1 year ago
Hey steve,
thanks i really needed this, im down in florida and this saturday the 18th Border patrol plans to hire 2500, im going to try to get in, but If that dosent go well which i hope it does, ill decide in a yr when theres a new president and decide then, to join the military, you da man steve
sheepdogmilitia 1 year ago
Did you just say that you heard stories about going to war with Iran years and year before it happened by commanding officers?
Is that something you are allowed to talk about even more?
LeathermanFan 1 year ago
@LeathermanFan Not stories but info from unclassified briefings by general officers in the 90s that korea was a big concern because of North Korea but that the middle east, iraq, iran and afghanistan, would be the direction the military would face in the future.
Interesting that we are in 2 out of the three.
;)
SafeArmsReview 1 year ago 3
Yeah, it's called common sense. Everyone who watched the news knew that the middle east was an unstable hot bed of anti-American jihadism. And Iran has arguably been our #1 security threat for over 30 years. They chant "Death to America!" on a weekly basis for goodness sakes. No crap military conflict with them is possible. And we've technically been at war with the Hussein regime in Iraq since Desert Storm and throughout the 1990s into the early 2000s. Another no brainer.
TaskForceSixTwoSix 1 year ago
And al qaeda was well known to those that were informed on defense issues and global affairs long before 9/11. We knew they were based in Afghanistan but Clinton didn't take the threat from them seriously enough so he passed up the oppurtunity to take them out several times. It doesn't surprise me at all that our military leaders were keeping an eye on them. That's their job. I fail to see the conspiracy you're almost certainly hinting at.
TaskForceSixTwoSix 1 year ago
So if you're trying to suggest, and I hope you're not, that we allowed the 9/11 attacks to occur so we could carry out some new Crusade in the middle east; you might want to take some of your own advice and do some careful thinking about that. In this case, and in the case of weapons of mass destruction, these supah sekret conspiracy theories can just be chalked up to simple bureaucratic incompetence. That's just the sad reality. People become complacent and then the tragedies occur.
TaskForceSixTwoSix 1 year ago
@TaskForceSixTwoSix
Dude, shut up. Unless you served in the Military, you have no right to say that he's "hinting" at a conspiracy. He's not at all. If you went to Iraq, spent months/years there for an objective, and after about 4,000 American deaths that objective wasn't accomplished, or even substantial in the first place, because of "bad intelligence", I think you'd be fucking mad too.
TooLateTomorrow 1 year ago 4
@TooLateTomorrow
Amen to that.
cole91v 1 year ago
@TooLateTomorrow LOL i love you americans OVER 4000 AMERICANS DEAD!?!?!? Ask yourself how many iraqi civilans died by the hands of american soldiers?!!? Much more than 4000: And objective was to find nuclear weapon which of course wasnt find and of course nobody is going to do about it and of course everybody knows that nuclear weapons was just decoy for real objectives- resources. One last thing: You americans arent only one on the world and certanly you arent blessed from god himself.
tukarak 1 year ago
@tukarak
Okay, what's your point? I'm saying invading Iraq was a poor choice by our Government. Everyone knows that a lot of Americans and even more Iraqi civilians died, pretty much for nothing. It's sad.
They could've taken out Saddam Hussein and his sons with air strikes or SF just as "easily" as Bush decided to invade. It's pathetic decision making on his part and makes you wonder if he actually invaded for petroleum.
TooLateTomorrow 1 year ago
@TooLateTomorrow your goverment and people you choose just doesnt hane any morals and because america is leading force on earth that can be dangerous
tukarak 1 year ago
@tukarak
I think our Government has made a lot of stupid decisions, but that's only a testament to the people who elect the people who make those decisions into office. Unfortunately, half of America is just plain stupid. To say that we don't have any morals is just a plain ignorant statement. Also, we're not dangerous, we're smart. Other countries' military's have the ability to be dangerous. Look at the BRIC nations for instance, or terrorist organizations like Al Qaeda, Taliban, and Hamas.
TooLateTomorrow 1 year ago