Your English is fine. From my experience with speaking with poultry breeders around the word, typically in the US they call a male fowl a rooster and in the UK they call a male fowl a cock. All the same thing. The use of which term just mostly depends on the region.
Do you have a website with photos of your birds? I'd like to see them.
Those are Chabo 矮鶏 (チャボ), "Japanese Bantams". There are many kinds of Chabo. In general, large combed Chabo are called Higo Chabo 肥後チャボ. There are then two kinds of Higo Chabo, the Daruma Chabo 達磨チャボ with the short tail and large comb such as the black ones you referred to and the Taikan Chabo 大冠チャボ with the large comb and regular, taller tail. If you watch later in the film (in part 2) there is even a bearded Chabo, the Okina (old man) Chabo 翁チャボ.
There was a lady here in the US who was going to try to translate subtitles for it, but I've not heard from her in a long time. I can understand about only breed names.
Hi Tommy, All is well here. Though it is getting cold. Has been down to 7*F here already this winter.
Glad to hear that all is well there. I do have one question though, why are you using Knut Roder's bbr bird to represent your "(1) American Onagadori (NM) Juvenile" in your web store instead of showing one of your own birds?
The "proto" misnomer is one I fell into at first too. The term was originated by my friend Marc King. "Proto" is a latin term, meaning "that with gave rise to", past tense. Something isn't actually "proto" until it's given rise to something better than itself. Marc was speaking of birds back in history when he used that term. Not current day birds.
My birds don't do well running outdoors. Most culls that I don't have room to house indoors often don't make it. That's a direct Onagadori trait, they are cage birds with dietary and climate sensitivities. Being apparently hardier, your bird has some Phoenix in him I would guess?
The longest tail so far that I've gotten was this young one's father at 6.5 Ft. Mine aren't pure either, but getting close.
Heterosis, hybrid vigor, is always a good thing. It's something that about every breed is in need of. It's important to select back to type for one or the other though before calling them by either name. Until the type for one breed is set, they're just mixes. That's something I admit with my own non-molting fowl. They have a lot of Onagadori behind them, but also some Phoenix and Ohiki. Until I get all of the traits in order, they are just mixes.
American Onagadori doesn't = Phoenix. An Onagadori, of any lineage, is a non-molter. The Phoenix, a German breed, molts regularly, has wider, harder, feathers, and so on. Phoenix contain more Leghorn and Modern Game genetics than Onagadori genetics.
Locustofcontrol is correct, it is an Onagadori. Yokohama molt. Onagadori coverts, sickles, and saddle feathers continue to grow for periods of 4 yrs or longer. Also, the Yokohama is not a Japanese breed. It is a European breed that was developed from a random assortment of various Japanese breeds exported from Port Yokohama during WWII. So though the Yokohama has some Japanese ancestry, it is not a Japanese breed as is the Onagadori.
video molto interessante per gli amanti del settore, da notare la scrupolosità e la pulizia della mostra.. bellissimi soggetti di Nagasaki (Chabo).. bello!
Thank you so much for posting this video. I have been studying these breeds for two years now and this is the first time I have seen any of them in real time video. I live in the US and have only seen photos before. I work with oriental breeds myself. amazing stuff, i really appreciate you taking the time to post this!
Love the Koeyoshi at the beginning! If only we had those in the US. . .
Illiasc 5 months ago
if i was walking around in the woods and i heard the crow that the rooster at 5:40 did, i would run like a bat out of hell
teenmod12 1 year ago
wooooooooooow
DajajQ8 1 year ago
that was the longest crow i ever heard, it should be onteh genius world record.
yasumpuss1ey 2 years ago
@yasumpuss1ey You are right. That crow lasted more than 10 seconds. Amazing.
kjaan 1 year ago
5 *****
KATSIMAMALO 2 years ago
Hi, i also have Onagadoris. Tell me do they call cocks or rooster? I,m from germany and speek a very bad english!
zipfelfrosch 2 years ago
Your English is fine. From my experience with speaking with poultry breeders around the word, typically in the US they call a male fowl a rooster and in the UK they call a male fowl a cock. All the same thing. The use of which term just mostly depends on the region.
Do you have a website with photos of your birds? I'd like to see them.
raregallus 2 years ago
@zipfelfrosch rooster but you can call them cocks for a nickname
boingboing32 10 months ago
What breed is the chicken at 0:16 with the enormous comb and wattles?
BrittenLi 2 years ago
Those are Chabo 矮鶏 (チャボ), "Japanese Bantams". There are many kinds of Chabo. In general, large combed Chabo are called Higo Chabo 肥後チャボ. There are then two kinds of Higo Chabo, the Daruma Chabo 達磨チャボ with the short tail and large comb such as the black ones you referred to and the Taikan Chabo 大冠チャボ with the large comb and regular, taller tail. If you watch later in the film (in part 2) there is even a bearded Chabo, the Okina (old man) Chabo 翁チャボ.
raregallus 2 years ago
damn,that rooster @ 5:40s got some powerful lungs...lol
diehardbreeder 3 years ago
i hope there where english translation...
greenpalaka 3 years ago
There was a lady here in the US who was going to try to translate subtitles for it, but I've not heard from her in a long time. I can understand about only breed names.
raregallus 3 years ago
Hi Tommy, All is well here. Though it is getting cold. Has been down to 7*F here already this winter.
Glad to hear that all is well there. I do have one question though, why are you using Knut Roder's bbr bird to represent your "(1) American Onagadori (NM) Juvenile" in your web store instead of showing one of your own birds?
raregallus 3 years ago
I breed american onagadori, or proto onagadori, and my roosters feathers would get that long, but hes allowed to run around outside.
showbrd 3 years ago
It sounds like you enjoy your bird very much! :-)
The "proto" misnomer is one I fell into at first too. The term was originated by my friend Marc King. "Proto" is a latin term, meaning "that with gave rise to", past tense. Something isn't actually "proto" until it's given rise to something better than itself. Marc was speaking of birds back in history when he used that term. Not current day birds.
raregallus 3 years ago
My birds don't do well running outdoors. Most culls that I don't have room to house indoors often don't make it. That's a direct Onagadori trait, they are cage birds with dietary and climate sensitivities. Being apparently hardier, your bird has some Phoenix in him I would guess?
The longest tail so far that I've gotten was this young one's father at 6.5 Ft. Mine aren't pure either, but getting close.
raregallus 3 years ago
but, what is happened with the American Onagadori , or Phoenix chickens, is they are crossed, building a better bird.
showbrd 3 years ago
Heterosis, hybrid vigor, is always a good thing. It's something that about every breed is in need of. It's important to select back to type for one or the other though before calling them by either name. Until the type for one breed is set, they're just mixes. That's something I admit with my own non-molting fowl. They have a lot of Onagadori behind them, but also some Phoenix and Ohiki. Until I get all of the traits in order, they are just mixes.
raregallus 3 years ago
American Onagadori doesn't = Phoenix. An Onagadori, of any lineage, is a non-molter. The Phoenix, a German breed, molts regularly, has wider, harder, feathers, and so on. Phoenix contain more Leghorn and Modern Game genetics than Onagadori genetics.
raregallus 3 years ago
The Mad City Chickens youtube group at:
youtube(dot)com/group/madcitychickens
The largest collection of backyard poultry vids on youtube! Everything chicken.
tarazod 3 years ago
Locustofcontrol is correct, it is an Onagadori. Yokohama molt. Onagadori coverts, sickles, and saddle feathers continue to grow for periods of 4 yrs or longer. Also, the Yokohama is not a Japanese breed. It is a European breed that was developed from a random assortment of various Japanese breeds exported from Port Yokohama during WWII. So though the Yokohama has some Japanese ancestry, it is not a Japanese breed as is the Onagadori.
raregallus 3 years ago
the first chicken that showed what kind of chiken breed is that and it has very long tail that i never seen b4.
shanenouwen 3 years ago
actually it is an Onagadori, yokohama doesn't get that long
Locustofcontrol 3 years ago
video molto interessante per gli amanti del settore, da notare la scrupolosità e la pulizia della mostra.. bellissimi soggetti di Nagasaki (Chabo).. bello!
wildwest70 4 years ago
Thank you so much for posting this video. I have been studying these breeds for two years now and this is the first time I have seen any of them in real time video. I live in the US and have only seen photos before. I work with oriental breeds myself. amazing stuff, i really appreciate you taking the time to post this!
javachickn 4 years ago 2