the podcasts on underground wellness are interviews with various experts with scientific backing, so that's why i thought you'd like it.
also, environment and genetics are impossible to distinguish since their is a constant influence of the the environment (including diet) on how our genes switch on and off.
exhibited very different diets. I mentioned the Inuits and Masai already. SO in this book there are 14 examples, specific dietary diffs and yet all were completely healthy if they stuck to their native diet.
Heh, just realized I am not quoting from the book, but my toddler is getting antsy. To save both of us time typing, there is a video clip summing up the info in this particular text on facebook, Nourishing Our Children. I think you will find it very interesting.
that .01% can speak volumes with regards to dietary requirements. Look around you. You even said for yourself that when you were sick you had to vary your diet tremendously...and i'm sure you know plenty of people who eat the opposite way (high in carbs) and seem to thrive. the books on my recommended page are example after example of quotes. I'll give you a quick one tho, In Nutrition & Physical Degeneration (Weston Price) he went to 14 diff countries over 10 years and the diff tribes
there is a lot of research on genetic diversity. you mentioned the eskimos surviving almost exclusively on animal fat and protein and almost no veggies. the masai is another example. if you want to learn a lot of specifics on biochemical individuality and diversity, i have some specific books on my website that will take you as far down the rabbit hole as you'd like to go.
"Humans are a relatively homogeneous species with genetic distance less than .01% between any 2 people. To put this into perspective, the genetic differences between humans and chimps is approximately 10 times less than between the mouse and rat" Nature Genetics 36, S28 - S33 (2004).
"surviving almost exclusively on animal"
That's a different topic. u can 'surive' consuming ppl.
Quite interesting. I got INCREDIBLY sick only one week after I cut my fat to under 5% of daily calories. Also, I gained a lot of weight after I started to eat breakfast (supposed to be healthy). After I got healthy again, I cut nearly all kinds of processed foods, allowed myself to eat everything I wanted to and started combat sports for 3-4 times a week. Guess what. I don't eat for 16 hours a day, eat whatever I want to and have a body fat percentage around 12%. I look lean and well trained.
@Chrisisms I highly recommend you reference Paul Chek (swiss ball, metabolic typing, etc) and his work. I really don't know how to disagree with this guy everything he says just makes sense
Why? I checked his videos. He is inexperienced w/elimination diets and does not have an answer for the popular, degenerative diseases rampant across cultures on high protein/fat diets. He emphasizes body image/fitness.
"I really don't know how to disagree"
Simple, ask how it is all other members of the great ape biological family (all of which have more genetic diversity than humans yet eat the same diets) lack nutritional deficiencies and enjoy better digestive health?
@Chrisisms absolutely, Paul Chek is awesome and right on when it comes to health. He writes about Metabolic Typing in his book How To Eat, Move and Be Healthy and also in his video Flatten Your Abs Forever.
The diet part of MT is only part of the whole health picture, as you mention. Part of the program includes methods for testing for proper gut, detoxification, hormonal and immune function.
OK, so you like paul. Any evidence to support the claim that humans are genetically diverse enough to warrant consuming varied food categories with opposing digestive processes?
"He writes about Metabolic Typing in his book"
Perhaps u could provide a summary statement or ANY evidence to support his findings?
"and also in his video Flatten Your Abs Forever"
To improve self-image? What does it have to do w/digestion/degenerative diseases?
@Chrisisms it won't let me post the link to my website, but it is choosinghealthnow under recommended reading. there is also a really good podcast called Underground Wellness you might like to check out.
Don't worry about that. Do u have any scientific reference (as opposed to popular websites) regarding varying genetic requirements for food categories that require opposing digestive processes i.e. fruit and fish or sprouts and cow dairy?
"there is also a really good podcast called Underground Wellness you might like to check out"
That website doesn't seem 'good' and definately not scientific. I checked it out a few yrs ago...
"..carbs might energize one person while making the next person tired and grouchy."
Complex carbs, depending on food source certainly can be consumed in excess. This is not in question. Humans differ a bit on a molecular level but not a systemic level.
"MT isnt about eating according to genes, its about being at tip top condition, feeling satisfied, energetic and keeping the diseases away"
To keep diseases away eat fruit, avoid meat. Goes for all humans...
"...metabolic typing doesnt hold water!!!" but can you really say that its a pseudoscience?"
Without a doubt. There is no evidence otherwise. Members within a species do not eat patently different diets based on metabolic types. Do you know what the greatest difference in metabolic rates are between humans? Where is the evidence that any 'metabolic type' has a matching metabolic-type specific breast milk composition?
Of course there are some differences between humans. The issue is that most of the differences are psychological and the genetic differences are slight, yet exaggerated. Humans are a homogeneous species. Before adopting a 'metabolic diet' were you curious about the genetic variance between humans, relative to breast milk composition or other members within a species?
"a guy that fed his cancer-striken wife meat on her deathbed which led to recovery"
Because oranges are mutated citrus, NOT biochemically optimal food. There is NO such thing as a "metabolic type" in regard to digestion/nutrient requirements: not for humans, not for ANY animal. Members within species differ at the molecular level but not systemically. This is precisely why we see remarkably similar breast milk composition as long as Mom doesn't have a nutrient deficiency. Try a Pubmed search to see how non-existent the evidence is in favor of blood type/metabolic type diets.
the podcasts on underground wellness are interviews with various experts with scientific backing, so that's why i thought you'd like it.
also, environment and genetics are impossible to distinguish since their is a constant influence of the the environment (including diet) on how our genes switch on and off.
rebecca4fitness 6 months ago
exhibited very different diets. I mentioned the Inuits and Masai already. SO in this book there are 14 examples, specific dietary diffs and yet all were completely healthy if they stuck to their native diet.
Heh, just realized I am not quoting from the book, but my toddler is getting antsy. To save both of us time typing, there is a video clip summing up the info in this particular text on facebook, Nourishing Our Children. I think you will find it very interesting.
rebecca4fitness 6 months ago
that .01% can speak volumes with regards to dietary requirements. Look around you. You even said for yourself that when you were sick you had to vary your diet tremendously...and i'm sure you know plenty of people who eat the opposite way (high in carbs) and seem to thrive. the books on my recommended page are example after example of quotes. I'll give you a quick one tho, In Nutrition & Physical Degeneration (Weston Price) he went to 14 diff countries over 10 years and the diff tribes
rebecca4fitness 6 months ago
there is a lot of research on genetic diversity. you mentioned the eskimos surviving almost exclusively on animal fat and protein and almost no veggies. the masai is another example. if you want to learn a lot of specifics on biochemical individuality and diversity, i have some specific books on my website that will take you as far down the rabbit hole as you'd like to go.
rebecca4fitness 6 months ago
"lot of research on genetic diversity"
"Humans are a relatively homogeneous species with genetic distance less than .01% between any 2 people. To put this into perspective, the genetic differences between humans and chimps is approximately 10 times less than between the mouse and rat" Nature Genetics 36, S28 - S33 (2004).
"surviving almost exclusively on animal"
That's a different topic. u can 'surive' consuming ppl.
"i have some specific books"
Yeah, me too... Any worth quoting?
Chrisisms 6 months ago
Quite interesting. I got INCREDIBLY sick only one week after I cut my fat to under 5% of daily calories. Also, I gained a lot of weight after I started to eat breakfast (supposed to be healthy). After I got healthy again, I cut nearly all kinds of processed foods, allowed myself to eat everything I wanted to and started combat sports for 3-4 times a week. Guess what. I don't eat for 16 hours a day, eat whatever I want to and have a body fat percentage around 12%. I look lean and well trained.
Alhazred2 8 months ago
"how did the Eskimos survive without vegetables in the ice?"
How do some humans survive eating candy? Inuit are among the unhealthy humans.
"Their bodies were designed to take in meat"
False. Inuit are humans and lack the NeuG5c gene. They have short life expectancies consuming meat.
"People that originated in the tropical islands did great on fruit"
The ecological niche for all hominidae is the tropics and humans digest fruit best.
"absurd to say were all one on a scientific level"
1 species.
Chrisisms 1 year ago
@Chrisisms I highly recommend you reference Paul Chek (swiss ball, metabolic typing, etc) and his work. I really don't know how to disagree with this guy everything he says just makes sense
LTMagic21 10 months ago
"reference Paul"
Why? I checked his videos. He is inexperienced w/elimination diets and does not have an answer for the popular, degenerative diseases rampant across cultures on high protein/fat diets. He emphasizes body image/fitness.
"I really don't know how to disagree"
Simple, ask how it is all other members of the great ape biological family (all of which have more genetic diversity than humans yet eat the same diets) lack nutritional deficiencies and enjoy better digestive health?
Chrisisms 10 months ago
@Chrisisms absolutely, Paul Chek is awesome and right on when it comes to health. He writes about Metabolic Typing in his book How To Eat, Move and Be Healthy and also in his video Flatten Your Abs Forever.
The diet part of MT is only part of the whole health picture, as you mention. Part of the program includes methods for testing for proper gut, detoxification, hormonal and immune function.
rebecca4fitness 6 months ago
@rebecca4fitness "Paul Chek is awesome"
OK, so you like paul. Any evidence to support the claim that humans are genetically diverse enough to warrant consuming varied food categories with opposing digestive processes?
"He writes about Metabolic Typing in his book"
Perhaps u could provide a summary statement or ANY evidence to support his findings?
"and also in his video Flatten Your Abs Forever"
To improve self-image? What does it have to do w/digestion/degenerative diseases?
Chrisisms 6 months ago
@Chrisisms it won't let me post the link to my website, but it is choosinghealthnow under recommended reading. there is also a really good podcast called Underground Wellness you might like to check out.
rebecca4fitness 6 months ago
@rebecca4fitness "it won't let me post the link to my website"
Don't worry about that. Do u have any scientific reference (as opposed to popular websites) regarding varying genetic requirements for food categories that require opposing digestive processes i.e. fruit and fish or sprouts and cow dairy?
"there is also a really good podcast called Underground Wellness you might like to check out"
That website doesn't seem 'good' and definately not scientific. I checked it out a few yrs ago...
Chrisisms 6 months ago
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"..carbs might energize one person while making the next person tired and grouchy."
Complex carbs, depending on food source certainly can be consumed in excess. This is not in question. Humans differ a bit on a molecular level but not a systemic level.
"MT isnt about eating according to genes, its about being at tip top condition, feeling satisfied, energetic and keeping the diseases away"
To keep diseases away eat fruit, avoid meat. Goes for all humans...
Chrisisms 1 year ago
"...metabolic typing doesnt hold water!!!" but can you really say that its a pseudoscience?"
Without a doubt. There is no evidence otherwise. Members within a species do not eat patently different diets based on metabolic types. Do you know what the greatest difference in metabolic rates are between humans? Where is the evidence that any 'metabolic type' has a matching metabolic-type specific breast milk composition?
Chrisisms 1 year ago
"we are individual internally..."
Of course there are some differences between humans. The issue is that most of the differences are psychological and the genetic differences are slight, yet exaggerated. Humans are a homogeneous species. Before adopting a 'metabolic diet' were you curious about the genetic variance between humans, relative to breast milk composition or other members within a species?
"a guy that fed his cancer-striken wife meat on her deathbed which led to recovery"
How?
Chrisisms 1 year ago
Blood type and metabolic type are two VERY different things.
Thanks for your comment.
rebecca4fitness 1 year ago
Because oranges are mutated citrus, NOT biochemically optimal food. There is NO such thing as a "metabolic type" in regard to digestion/nutrient requirements: not for humans, not for ANY animal. Members within species differ at the molecular level but not systemically. This is precisely why we see remarkably similar breast milk composition as long as Mom doesn't have a nutrient deficiency. Try a Pubmed search to see how non-existent the evidence is in favor of blood type/metabolic type diets.
Chrisisms 1 year ago