Table Tennis Service Variations 1 - Tomahawk Type

[jk032994bama]

What kind of paddle do you have and how thick is it?

[jamfreddie]

@jk032994bama I have a Galaxy T-4 blade which is around 6mm thick with Stiga Calibra LT - Max on both sides (around 4mm each).

[coocoonutt]

Coach, I viewed your other serves in your other videos. Thumbs UP!!!

[coocoonutt]

No one cares about my rating. I'm so critical because I'm a coach. For instance, topspin serves should be disguised because they can be easily attacked. Show us a reversed pendulum serve with sidespin combined with UNDERSPIN. Then I'll respect your serves. Right now, you look like a rookie!

[jamfreddie]

@coocoonutt Well, having seen how well you analyse the game, I suspect you will be inundated with pupils wanting to learn from you. I'm a coach too by the way. I'm going away for a few days with the regional squad so won't be around for a bit, but will gladly get back to you after Thursday (unless I can get online whilst away?).

The reverse BACKSPIN is easier than the reverse topspin for me, but at the moment, I can only manage to serve properly 2 or 3 times before my arm starts to hurt.

[schwazer210]

Your fat, but your serves are awesome so it balances out

[coocoonutt]

wrong grip. what a dumb demonstration!

[jamfreddie]

@coocoonutt Is that code for 'I wish I could do that'?

[coocoonutt]

@jamfreddie Ha, ha...I'm laughing so hard that my stomach hurts. Seriously, if you know the right grip, why don't you demonstrate it? Hint...The index is pointed upward, the three fingers are curled under the handle to allow more rotation. Don't forget to lower your body by bending. I know it's not easy for an overweight player, but give it a try. If you want to get fancy, try the reversed tomahawk.

Good day!

[jamfreddie]

@coocoonutt There is no correct grip, just different grips which have different strengths and weaknesses. I am merely demonstrating my grip. A grip which has helped me to develop some very effective serves within my level of play. At the end of the day that is what we all want to have isn't it? My grip allows me to accelerate the bat very quickly over a short distance and achieve quite a bit of deception, but you are welcome to put your video up to show how to do it 'properly'.

[coocoonutt]

@jamfreddie There are correct grips used by high level players and in particular the pros. Get the DVD "Service Secrets Revealed" and get with the program!

[jamfreddie]

@coocoonutt I wondered when you would get on to pro's and DVD's etc. I don't want to be a pro, and neither do most people who watch my vids. I have serves which are very good within my level of play. They are very effective and link well with my game. Most people just want to improve their game and they do not need to copy pro players to do that. Copying a pro's style and then not putting in the 6 hours a day of practice will only give you a poor imitation of a pro's serve.

[coocoonutt]

@jamfreddie Your serves are efficient but you can improve the spin by lowering your body by bending the knees on the tomahawk serve and using a "violent" motion. SERVE VIOLENTLY!!!

[jamfreddie]

@coocoonutt My serves are as good as I want them to be. If I was still playing competitively then there would be other areas of my game I would work on first. The whole point is that they don't look very good, but they work and if you can't see why they work, then you are not really good enough to be on here giving me tips, are you!!

[coocoonutt]

@jamfreddie Cut the bull...what's your rating?

[jamfreddie]

@coocoonutt Difficult to say as I am not in the US and haven't played any tournaments or in our National League for a couple of years. Last time I really played competitively, I was ranked around 140th on the English ranking list and was playing at a similar standard when I injured my arm last summer. My serves (and the rest of my game) have been good enough to allow me to beat a player ranked 13 in England and many in the top 50, so they can't be all that bad, can they?

What about you?

[coocoonutt]

@jamfreddie Please, if you're going to demonstrate services and you're too lazy or out of shape to get low by bending your knees, at least say so in your demonstration. When you're standing upright, your serves are going to be too high over the net. I wouldn't recommend your "lazy" stance to anyone. Serve violently, don't just stroke the ball to get spin...get maximum spin with proper technique!

[jamfreddie]

@coocoonutt I notice you make no mention of your rating. Come on, I've told you my level. Other than watching vids, tell us all why you feel you are such an expert and able to be so critical.

I can assure you, my serves (particularly my chop) are amongst the most spinny you are ever likely to receive and they have given problems to players inside the top 300 in the world. If they were so bouncy or lacked spin then I would have had my serve taken apart by these players, but it wasn't.

[Exquisious614]

do the traditional tomahawk serve, otherwise it's a stupid arm movement which makes you look stupid

[jamfreddie]

@Exquisious614 At least it is only my arm movement and not my ignorance that makes me look stupid.

[LexCazzie05]

u dont really play ping pong do you..

[jamfreddie]

@LexCazzie05 Not a lot any more, since I got injured last summer.

[rulomoc]

Hey dude can you make another video with more serves?? this help me alot!!

[mjshaheed]

What paddle are you using Fred?

[jamfreddie]

@mjshaheed Fred uses a Stiga Optimum Plus with 2mm Calibra LT on FH and 1.8mm Calibra LT Sound on BH.

[bmxscootersoccer123]

Thanks very helpful viveo:) and size doesnt matter in table tennis freddie! Your good

[CrAzY976431]

1:45

[MrGodlessGR]

Serves in 1:38 then Scratches his balls xD :P

[jamfreddie]

@MrGodlessGR You should take a look at Fred's 'Interesting Free Arm Technique' video. He does lots of that sort of thing.

[ViolentFury1]

could it be frank calliendo ? :D

search for him on ytube

[jamfreddie]

@ViolentFury1 If you cannot see the gulf in class between Frank and me, then I suspect that your level is closer to Frank's than mine.

[ViolentFury1]

@jamfreddie

1. i dont play this game at all

2. i only saw Frank near a table like this

3. i tought you are him judging only by your look

4. are you bragging about your level ?

5. what made you so upset ?

[jamfreddie]

@ViolentFury1 You are comparing me to someone because we are both overweight and you wonder why I might get upset? I am not bragging about my level either, because I don't even play competitively any more.

[ViolentFury1]

@jamfreddie

i saw many owerweight people in table tennis, but you reminded me of Frank because of your stance. Somehow i remember him when i saw your stance and i didnt see your face so i really tought you are him. So its not "just because" youre both owerweight. and i didnt mean to hurt you.... i tought Frank is famous in USA ( i dont really know, cuz im not from USA) so i wrote it here. I tought many people will recognice him in you...

[ViolentFury1]

@ViolentFury1 recognize*

[freakkit]

someone needs to take that boy to a doctor...he might have jock itch!

[valtra44]

you dont have to be evil, it's a good serve!

[Hearthless27]

that's my service! 1:32 (Slight Backspin)

[jenksey14]

what bat are you using

??

[jamfreddie]

@jenksey14 I use a Galaxy T-4 blade with Max Calibra LT on both sides.

[Nutzelpivot]

hehe kkeep it up and one day you might 10x better instead of 9x better =D

[Nuinu848]

Its primitive services -not for professional games....

[jamfreddie]

@Nuinu848 Actually these serves are used quite a lot in the professional game though I am sure they work at theirs a lot harder than I do.

[jamfreddie]

@Nuinu848 I think you should look again, this type of service is used quite widely in the pro game, particularly a backspin/kicker combination. Anyway, for that matter 99.999% of people who look at this will not be pro players, so why do they need pro serves - their opponents cannot read the double and treble bluffs anyway.

[epicnub123]

U are freaking fat slow mo makes u ugly and ur service are slow like shit

[jamfreddie]

@epicnub123 If you think that serves have to be fast to be effective then you haven't made it out of the basement yet so keep practicing.

[98nfsmw98]

@jamfreddie But it does help to have speed.

[Nutzelpivot]

@epicnub123 what about a drop shot, thats realy slow, the slower and smaller the better!

[Angudragu]

The boys growing uptoo fast

[haylenj08]

what rubbers do you have on your bat



[jamfreddie]

@haylenj08 Stiga Calibra LT - Max

[NmNm4all]

why that kid has to touch his penis right after each serve!?!? lol

[jamfreddie]

@NmNm4all Because he is a boy.

[xiaoken2000]

Awesome....I wish i could serve like that.... :(

[RupertGriffin1]

epic serves

[maxk880]

I'm the best server of the club but not even close to the best player