People don't think of aging as "bad" or as a problem...people see it just as a fact of life. It's a matter of perspective. Certainly, if the issue were brought up in conversation, anyone would say that aging/death was bad. Another speaker at a different TED conference spoke about certain problems being invisible to people because they are either too big or too common/too familiar. I think that it applies with aging/death.
Here is the question, How can you keep all the expriences of life in all its stages from childhood to old age when you are still active like a 25 years old?, differnet exprience only can be achieved or realized when the body slows down, othewise a man in the football flied will run forever over this stupid ball for the rest of his life, if his body doesn't slows down and could no longer run fast. if he spend time on the brian from detoriateing would have much benefint than the physical aging
De Gray really needs a makeover. Not just physically. Don't get me wrong, I find his ideas exciting and his arguments worthwhile. I just don't think his personal presentation is one that will convince many. Until, y'know, he gets proven right.
Doesn't this technology mean, that, really, especially the rich and powerful will live longer? And then at the same time, those who do will want to sacrifice everything, and everyone, for their expensive life extension. I suggest reading the book "Super Sad True Lovestory".
Homosexual activists understand the power of words.
Please visit my channel to watch a one-minute video clip in which popular atheist author Richard Dawkins admits that homosexual activists "hijacked the word 'gay'".
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate because it, unlike the word "gay", actually describes the behavior/attraction/relationship being discussed.
The word "gay" helps homosexual activists push their agenda.
Even if you're not aging, even if you have no health issues, you're not immortal. You are still exposed to fatal accidents all throughout your life. The longer you live the more chance you'll die of an accident. What if I take a pistol and shoot a bullet through your head? You're dead.
Secret of immortality lies in your brain, not in stopping the aging process. Reincarnation not eternal youth.
So one guy says "don't try to live forever" and you're supposed to believe him? can he see into the future? does he have some scientific evidence to back up his claim?
So one guy says "don't try to live forever" and you're supposed to believe him? can he see into the future? does he have some scientific evidence to back up his claim?
While I know it's frowned upon, please visit the SENS Facebook page to support the cause. I am not related to SENS, though I am a fascinated onlooker who supports the cause. Just go to Facebook and search for SENS!
Aubrey is the devil. We are supposed to die, that is how God made us, to die. God needs us to die so that after our test on Earth we can be judged according to God's law and either be sent to Heaven or Hell.
Aubrey is the devil and he is allowing evil men never to die and never to be sent to Hell or judged by God!!
Immortality is not what he is talking about. That implies you will never die. You will still be vulnerable to choking, or getting hit by a bus, falling down an elevator shaft, etc. What he is talking about is extending potential life and giving people a choice about how long they would like to live. Then, if they decide they've had enough, they have a choice to not keep going.
..........................Don´t waste your money on useless smartphones, flatscreens and cars with parc assistance - things you don´t really need to lead a happy life. Think about donating to his foundation even if it´s not much. This man´s fight against the cruelty of human ageing has to be supported................................
I couldnt think of anything worse than being trapped in the prison that is the human mind for eternity. Its the FEAR of death that needs to be conquered, not death itself. Anyway, everybody will have the choice: Eternity in prison, or a humble death.
@mccoya2 Having been into Eckhart and others like him for awhile i knida see Your point, as an Ego though I would like the chioce of staying in ego as long as I like hhahaha I do get what U mean though by the lack of freedom being locked into a busy mind, when physical death comes though then "U" prob cease to exist anyway, so maybe the point of being here is to let go of the "prison" while still in the body, but heck I'm just posing questions.
The problem I see with this is over population. With children being born all the time and people living to be 1000, the earth is going to fill up pretty quick lol
Nobody should live forever, only me - so I can be God among men. MUHAHAHAHA
Just kidding, but I think once we figure out aging, we'll then need to deal with other vulnerabilities. I am confident one day Aubrey's goals will be achieved.
However, once done - we need to reinforce ourselves, with additional defenses, bulletproof skin, oxygen independence, perhaps solar powered skin, so we don't starve to death - but only ever feel weak without food. etc etc
The more TedTalks (TedX, TedWomen, TedMed, etc.) that I watch, the more disappointed I become with the so-called leaders of industry. They seem to constantly rehash each others' ideas with slightly different spins or apparently conflicting opinions, despite the fact that in order to achieve what they have achieved, they stand on the shoulders of giants. Without trust funds, none of these people would have done anything with their lives.
Always got to be someone wanting to stop progress hasn't there?..
People sceptical of the entire world of scientific progress, as if it's some inherent evil, hell bent on destruction.
Modern Health Care, Heart Surgery, Aeroplanes. All evil.
No doubt these views belong to literal readers of Religious texts, George Orwell's "1984", and Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" (with a particularly negative slant).
@ExtremeBogom It depends on how you define progress. Happiness to me is the ultimate in progress, and that may or may not involve longer lifespans. As for technology, it depends on the kind and how it is used. Yes, it has brought all the improvements you have mentioned, and also the potential for resource depletion, nuclear holocaust and catastrophic global warming.
@Rebphoenix Indeed, you're not alone at all. There are plenty life-hating retards like you, out there. THIS should be humanity's FIRST concern. Why bother with hunger, and disease, if ageing will blow it up anyway?
@Rebphoenix Looking at this garbage from a viewpoint outside of humanity, shows you how this "work" will destroy the earth. We're already on the brink of making this planet uninhabitable.
Ass holes and criminals would never stick with us. As any one with criminal records would be forever forbidden to do any type regenerating therapy and therefore doomed to die a "natural death" while others life goes on. Simple. And you know what? I just love that idea.
@Rebphoenix Imagine all the loss when great people die. It takes decades for an individual, even a talented one, to become proficient in intellectual crafts. When you have a doctor who is an asset to the world for the research they do it takes decades for someone else to get to their former level. Furthermore, how much more advanced would those people be if given more time to improve?
@Rebphoenix When you start shitting blood you'll think differently We see little criticism on incremental health advancements - I think that Aubrey's argument is such a jump forward that it un-nerves people.
However the pace of technological advancement is obviously increasing - unless you are living in a box - so we need to start thinking about this NOW as immortality is not far away in human terms. Look at the impact on pensions due to a minimal increase in life expectancy for a teaser!
When they discover a true way to prevent the aging process, the government will step in and ban this product or therapy. Why you ask? Exponential growth due to instant demand, it will likely result in peak global population within the next decade. This in turn will exhaust all the resources and will cause a global catastrophe. Well, it's a good thing this will be unlikely due to the fact of the complexities of the aging process, not one single therapy or method will prevent aging.
@Zenome Not everyone will be able to afford this "therapy". Only, once again, the very rich will be able to afford it. They'll want this so they can maintain their grip on humanity for as long as possible.
@Kostly And at the moment the rich receive better treatment in old age than poorer people. So what exactly are you trying to avoid? - clearly not pain and suffering... your intellectual dishonesty is staggering.
This guy spends a tremendous amount of time talking about everything except what to actually do to maintain youth. Should we? Will we save money? Quit your babbling, and spit out the important details, con man. You talk too much, yet say too little, always a definite sign of not enough content.
@PUFFTHEMAGICMARMOT You miss the audience and purpose. The purpose isn't to add 10 more years to someone's life (which is about as much as any average regimen will do) but to fundamentally reverse the aging process.
Compared to cancer, heart disease, alzheimer's, diabetes, and other diseases, aging is a much more common factor in people's death, yet the funding for anti-aging pales in comparison to any of those. And that's his target, one that requires research, as we don't have the answers.
Preferably the 99.99% pure selegiline citrate. Also see 109 yr old that looks and acts 70 by eating small amounts of food which are raw fruits, vegies and occasional steamed fish. google Bernando LaPallo. So by combining the 2 you should make it to 120 so we can take advantage of new repair technologies
1. Aging is a problem: suffering, death should be avoided. (1:00-3:00)
2. Thoughts on death: when do you wish to die?/how? (3:00-5:00)
3. Regenerative medicine offers a way to slow/stop aging. By halting damage secondary to metabolism, aging can be halted. Halting can be done by simple maintenance of the body.
Totally disagree, I have watched both and several other Aubrey videos. He is smother, better slides and more entertaining and enthusiastic. His job as he tells it is to promote the health benefits of anti aging and I found this video as great.
@li7liquid Maybe so,but he is after all a computer scientist and biologist(more biologist now though),it is not so important how he says it,as long as he does,But I do agree that it has a great impact on people understanding and accepting his speeches.
Maybe, but I maybe sound silly or naive.. but most of people is turning to be more reasonable than 10 or 20 years ago.. what we see in christianity or islam is.. in my judgement, the last stand of extremely conservative society against these major break throughs in science.
I became interested in anti-aging almost 50 years ago, and yes people are more reasonable by far than they were then. But not focused enough to spend the effort to solve this in a decade, though they could (witness the moon landing effort of 60s). The problem will solve itself, given trends. But to solve it quick, we'll need to focus. It's not a simple problem.
De Grey's beard may go beyond western standards, certainly draws the attention of many in front of new audiences. He has some pronunciation problem and seems insecure speaking in public, perhaps shifting the attention helps him relax his insecurity, who knows? In any case, his weird looks & oratory weaknesses doesn't knock down the neat line of his reasoning, whereas better orators with fake arguments manage to captivate their audiences but have no ideas to offer & make you waste your time.
Having met Aubrey I can assure you he's more than comfortable around crowds -- but -- he always has a lot to say in such a very short space, and often seems to be thinking on his feet. His off-stage personality reminds me a little of Tom Wilkinson's portrayal of Benjamin Franklin in the American series John Adams.
Whether his ideas take 50 or 500 years to come to fruition, future Homos will regard Aubrey de Grey as the most important Homo sapien to this point in history.
@BenNCM I'm not comfortable with 100,000 innocent people dying every day, particularly not through the vicious processes of aging. Are you? Does it really matter if a terrorist organization orchestrates the deaths? Slow, painful death is bad. Period.
@Badhabitsjay We're not ignoring that problem, you people are ridiculous really. There's easily $200 billion dollars spend on medical research every year, that's more than what's spend on space programs and fundamental physics combined.
If anything we are ignoring the fact that we should develop interstellar travel, real energy solutions and methods to deflect meteors if we want to ensure the survival of our SPECIES. But no, having an erection when you're 80 is a lot more important.
@noxure I think you misunderstood, we do ignore the problem because we consider ageing to be "natural". Anything that steps into a person's philosophical boundary as sounding like immortality instantly makes them brand you a tin foil hat.
The extreme examples and imagery is necessary to illicit a positive response from a typically negative audience.
@Badhabitsjay True, the "fun -> not fun" slide is pretty epic. It's necessary to have this debate, because sooner our later science and technology will allow us to maintain a human body like any other machine and society should be prepared for it. But I think it's wrong to make it a priority to drastically extend peoples lifespans as long as there are still many who don't even have the chance to lead a 'natural' life.
@noxure Actually, I think focusing on ageing is far more important, the only places the majority don't get to lead a "natural" life are third world countries, this isn't a scientific or medical problem, it's an infrastructure problem and tehrefore not relevant to the scientific discussion. The biggest killer in our day and age is ageing, the second biggest killer is cancer, in order for us to defeat ageing we have to defeat cancer as cancer falls into the category of "cells reproducing too much"
@Badhabitsjay Re: in order to defeat aging we have to defeat cancer
If we defeat aging and ignore cancer, we'll save far more lives than if we defeat cancer and ignore aging. Cancer is far, far more prevalent in 70 year olds than in 20 year olds. Turning every 70 year old back to a 20 year old will greatly lower the death rate from cancer by over 80%. But ending all cancer would only slightly lower the death rate from age related illness.
@neoaeonian I think you have a major misunderstanding of the problem here. Cancer is an age related illness, 2 of the major problems of aging are cells that stop reproducing properly(cell degradation - visual symptoms of aging) and cells that start over reproducing (cancer).
They are two completely linked problems I'm afraid. Failure to understand that is a failure to understand one of the simplest of things in life extension science.
Only in regards to telomere lengthening mechanisms, which both cancer and anti-aging require.
The body already has cells that rebuild the telomeres, particularly the colon and muscles. The colon has slightly above avarage cancer rates, the muscles do not. Cancer (other than early detection) is not the low-hanging fruit that will extend most lives.
Cure cancer and people will die at 80% the rate they are now. Cure aging and it would be 10%.
@BenNCM No really. Please explain to us why it's tasteless? He's saying the death toll from aging is a tragedy. He really means it. Why shouldn't he compare it to something like 9/11 to make that point?
I'm not picking a fight. I genuinely want to know what you mean.
Understanding the above distinction is key to inculcating an awareness of this work that encourages its continued development in a positive way.
Aubrey, while I love hearing you speak, what you need is a real media, advertising, and PR effort to bring your work to the cultural tipping point in the strategically best possible way.
One minor point in re 16:48 (that also builds on the other two comments above):
The way the press treats your work, Aubrey, is not designed to keep readers emotionally distant from the issue. Rather, it is designed to do precisely the opposite: engage their most deeply seeded hopes and fears. What the media's treatment does is keep people *intellectually* distant.
Nice beard
SelectedArmor 1 week ago
I just think it's astonishing that anyone has to convince anyone that aging is bad.
I can't seem to wrap my head around it at all, but there it is.
toddmorrow1 2 weeks ago 3
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People don't think of aging as "bad" or as a problem...people see it just as a fact of life. It's a matter of perspective. Certainly, if the issue were brought up in conversation, anyone would say that aging/death was bad. Another speaker at a different TED conference spoke about certain problems being invisible to people because they are either too big or too common/too familiar. I think that it applies with aging/death.
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I often stomp around my house bollock naked wearing only my Aubrey De Grey false beard.
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awhitesoul2012 3 weeks ago
Here is the question, How can you keep all the expriences of life in all its stages from childhood to old age when you are still active like a 25 years old?, differnet exprience only can be achieved or realized when the body slows down, othewise a man in the football flied will run forever over this stupid ball for the rest of his life, if his body doesn't slows down and could no longer run fast. if he spend time on the brian from detoriateing would have much benefint than the physical aging
ayobpala 1 month ago
look up transhumanism
devo1v3d 1 month ago
De Gray really needs a makeover. Not just physically. Don't get me wrong, I find his ideas exciting and his arguments worthwhile. I just don't think his personal presentation is one that will convince many. Until, y'know, he gets proven right.
UniversalRee 1 month ago
I SUPPORT THE ONE CHILD POLICY!
nathernrock 1 month ago
Doesn't this technology mean, that, really, especially the rich and powerful will live longer? And then at the same time, those who do will want to sacrifice everything, and everyone, for their expensive life extension. I suggest reading the book "Super Sad True Lovestory".
alpenjon 1 month ago
@alpenjon At first, yes.
But it's been that way throughout all of history. It's that way right now. It will be that way tomorrow.
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Homosexual activists understand the power of words.
Please visit my channel to watch a one-minute video clip in which popular atheist author Richard Dawkins admits that homosexual activists "hijacked the word 'gay'".
The word "homosexual" is more appropriate and accurate because it, unlike the word "gay", actually describes the behavior/attraction/relationship being discussed.
The word "gay" helps homosexual activists push their agenda.
lightandbeautiful 1 month ago
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Even if you're not aging, even if you have no health issues, you're not immortal. You are still exposed to fatal accidents all throughout your life. The longer you live the more chance you'll die of an accident. What if I take a pistol and shoot a bullet through your head? You're dead.
Secret of immortality lies in your brain, not in stopping the aging process. Reincarnation not eternal youth.
Umbrage00 2 months ago
If anyone is interested I have a facebook group called life extension should be an important priority, if anyone is interested in joining.
Keim4ever 2 months ago
"Mama always said, dying was a part of life. I sure wish it wasn't."
usafadb 2 months ago
“Do not try to live forever. You will not succeed.” George Bernard Shaw
golf23101987 2 months ago
@golf23101987
So one guy says "don't try to live forever" and you're supposed to believe him? can he see into the future? does he have some scientific evidence to back up his claim?
jinorz 2 months ago 3
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@golf23101987
So one guy says "don't try to live forever" and you're supposed to believe him? can he see into the future? does he have some scientific evidence to back up his claim?
jinorz 2 months ago
This man is a dangerous ideologist - an elitarian fascist behind a legere Hippie Fassade
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Aubrey is the devil. We are supposed to die, that is how God made us, to die. God needs us to die so that after our test on Earth we can be judged according to God's law and either be sent to Heaven or Hell.
Aubrey is the devil and he is allowing evil men never to die and never to be sent to Hell or judged by God!!
AUBREY IS THE DEVIL! AGING IS GOOD!
mysql0 3 months ago
OH AUBREY I SOOOO WISH YOU WERE NOT MARRIED..
ThePrrstar 3 months ago
he's slurring through his beard hair.
mentalmetal1 4 months ago
Immortality is not what he is talking about. That implies you will never die. You will still be vulnerable to choking, or getting hit by a bus, falling down an elevator shaft, etc. What he is talking about is extending potential life and giving people a choice about how long they would like to live. Then, if they decide they've had enough, they have a choice to not keep going.
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foxfireman188 4 months ago
He reminds me of Alan Moore
AristotleP 4 months ago
Who other than Pharmanex is providing real solutions to aging?
Pharmanex now has product in the market and has a plan and system to discover more.
AntiAgeTechnology 4 months ago
@AntiAgeTechnology Univera and its sister company, Unigen.
UscholdM 3 months ago
dude aubrey grey has an epic beard....i'm calling it the Aubrey.... HAha im growing an aubrey
kushnjuice 5 months ago
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"you know I mean"
GodEquals3 5 months ago
Lets hope we keep avancing, would be good!
SaludesHealth 5 months ago
..........................Don´t waste your money on useless smartphones, flatscreens and cars with parc assistance - things you don´t really need to lead a happy life. Think about donating to his foundation even if it´s not much. This man´s fight against the cruelty of human ageing has to be supported................................
sirmixalotLXXXIX 5 months ago
I think peters griffin's birds found a new home lol
jerseydog423 5 months ago
putting a shirt on would not be an easy task with such a glorious mane
LoLFlail 6 months ago
I couldnt think of anything worse than being trapped in the prison that is the human mind for eternity. Its the FEAR of death that needs to be conquered, not death itself. Anyway, everybody will have the choice: Eternity in prison, or a humble death.
mccoya2 6 months ago
@mccoya2 Having been into Eckhart and others like him for awhile i knida see Your point, as an Ego though I would like the chioce of staying in ego as long as I like hhahaha I do get what U mean though by the lack of freedom being locked into a busy mind, when physical death comes though then "U" prob cease to exist anyway, so maybe the point of being here is to let go of the "prison" while still in the body, but heck I'm just posing questions.
Myflesh101 6 months ago
@mccoya2 Exactly.
squamish4244 3 months ago
The problem I see with this is over population. With children being born all the time and people living to be 1000, the earth is going to fill up pretty quick lol
theBartone9119 6 months ago
Nobody should live forever, only me - so I can be God among men. MUHAHAHAHA
Just kidding, but I think once we figure out aging, we'll then need to deal with other vulnerabilities. I am confident one day Aubrey's goals will be achieved.
However, once done - we need to reinforce ourselves, with additional defenses, bulletproof skin, oxygen independence, perhaps solar powered skin, so we don't starve to death - but only ever feel weak without food. etc etc
superhamzah85 6 months ago
Millions long for immortality who do not know what to do with themself on a rainy afternoon.
Hermoor 7 months ago
@Hermoor millions long for immortality who do know what to do with themselves on a rainy afternoon
AwfulPun 6 months ago 2
20 sec intro is unnecessary.
H1TMANactual 7 months ago
The prophet of immortality.
someThinkingApe 7 months ago
Is it just me, or does Aubrey look younger than his 2007 TED talk?
0pteryx 7 months ago
The more TedTalks (TedX, TedWomen, TedMed, etc.) that I watch, the more disappointed I become with the so-called leaders of industry. They seem to constantly rehash each others' ideas with slightly different spins or apparently conflicting opinions, despite the fact that in order to achieve what they have achieved, they stand on the shoulders of giants. Without trust funds, none of these people would have done anything with their lives.
sbhattacherya 7 months ago
He needs to calm down..................the trick to fighting his nervousness is to consciously say things slower.
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curingaging00 7 months ago
"Aubrey de Grey passionately talks about the ultimate quest for significantly longer, healthier beard!" That's the TED talk I wanna see.
acosmichippo 7 months ago
bryan callen too.
yoimanton 8 months ago
joe rogan sent me
yoimanton 8 months ago
We need a Person who can convince in a grade like HITLER did for Nazism in his time.
Or a popular person, a movie star that the mass people will follow and do.
EnricoSWE 8 months ago
@EnricoSWE
I agree.
redmapleleaf 5 months ago
@EnricoSWE Yeah, that mentality worked out really well for everyone.
squamish4244 3 months ago
We need a Person who can convince in a grade like HITLER did for Nazism in his time.
Or a popular person, a movie star that the mass people will follow and do.
EnricoSWE 8 months ago
Fucking awesome beard, I want one!
Fanaz10 8 months ago 2
Always got to be someone wanting to stop progress hasn't there?..
People sceptical of the entire world of scientific progress, as if it's some inherent evil, hell bent on destruction.
Modern Health Care, Heart Surgery, Aeroplanes. All evil.
No doubt these views belong to literal readers of Religious texts, George Orwell's "1984", and Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" (with a particularly negative slant).
ExtremeBogom 8 months ago
@ExtremeBogom It depends on how you define progress. Happiness to me is the ultimate in progress, and that may or may not involve longer lifespans. As for technology, it depends on the kind and how it is used. Yes, it has brought all the improvements you have mentioned, and also the potential for resource depletion, nuclear holocaust and catastrophic global warming.
squamish4244 3 months ago
YOU SHALT NOT AGE!!!
DocUnsane 10 months ago 25
@DocUnsane LOOOOOOOOOL :DDDD Gandalf win :DDDD
azujevas 8 months ago
Wow he looks yound for 182
DK0526 10 months ago
Truly the only thing to ever kill this man will be breaking his neck on the awesome beard.
Charlesperalo 10 months ago 3
the death will die
zoveia 10 months ago
WTF is TEDMED?
rooley 11 months ago
This person is obviously a heavy LSD user, that thinks he can 'CURE AGING'
He drinks beer and eats candy every day, and considers himself a qualified person to discuss health and reverse disease ?
Health starts at the basic cellular health, and sugar is not one of those things...
This guy will be dead at 60.
korvix 11 months ago
@korvix the woman who lived 120 years drank a glass of wine every day and smoked. Candy isnt unhealthy if you dont eat too much
dopert2 11 months ago 2
@korvix Nice critique, there, sport.
Saerain 10 months ago
why does this sound soo much like southpark
the way he talks, his voice
sounds like a southpark episode.
cpretartedmuch 11 months ago
pero cual es la formula a seguir? carajo!
tocaplay 1 year ago
@tocaplay Yo me pregunto lo mismo!
someThinkingApe 7 months ago
To me death is the final relief of a good long (or short) life. To me immortality would be a curse, and I don't think I'm alone with this either.
Rebphoenix 1 year ago 5
@Rebphoenix Indeed, you're not alone at all. There are plenty life-hating retards like you, out there. THIS should be humanity's FIRST concern. Why bother with hunger, and disease, if ageing will blow it up anyway?
PedroNGCProductions 11 months ago
@PedroNGCProductions Aubrey's work is ill-thought out. Fountain of youth NONSENSE.
Kostly 11 months ago
@Kostly
So better than you have tried to debunk him and failed.
Can you explain why it is ill thought out?
SidandCoke 9 months ago
@Rebphoenix Looking at this garbage from a viewpoint outside of humanity, shows you how this "work" will destroy the earth. We're already on the brink of making this planet uninhabitable.
Kostly 11 months ago
@Kostly I agree. Imagine having all the assholes throughout history stick with us for all eternity.
Rebphoenix 11 months ago 14
@Rebphoenix
Ass holes and criminals would never stick with us. As any one with criminal records would be forever forbidden to do any type regenerating therapy and therefore doomed to die a "natural death" while others life goes on. Simple. And you know what? I just love that idea.
It's a great way to make criminality drop.
SKarmytech 10 months ago
@SKarmytech Yes, what a great ethical way to deal with people!
squamish4244 3 months ago
@Rebphoenix Imagine all the loss when great people die. It takes decades for an individual, even a talented one, to become proficient in intellectual crafts. When you have a doctor who is an asset to the world for the research they do it takes decades for someone else to get to their former level. Furthermore, how much more advanced would those people be if given more time to improve?
zstxkn 4 months ago
@Kostly
If you feel so guilty about being human then go commit suicide
SidandCoke 9 months ago
@Rebphoenix but life extension and qulaity of life improvement wouldn't neccessarily be a bad thing
A0Candle0In0The0Dark 9 months ago
@Rebphoenix When you start shitting blood you'll think differently We see little criticism on incremental health advancements - I think that Aubrey's argument is such a jump forward that it un-nerves people.
However the pace of technological advancement is obviously increasing - unless you are living in a box - so we need to start thinking about this NOW as immortality is not far away in human terms. Look at the impact on pensions due to a minimal increase in life expectancy for a teaser!
SidandCoke 9 months ago
@SidandCoke I get your point, however I don't see this particular improvement in technology as a positive thing.
Rebphoenix 9 months ago
@Rebphoenix you are not alone, but I don't want you deathlovers condemning me to a short life.
KurosenvsGrither 4 months ago
When they discover a true way to prevent the aging process, the government will step in and ban this product or therapy. Why you ask? Exponential growth due to instant demand, it will likely result in peak global population within the next decade. This in turn will exhaust all the resources and will cause a global catastrophe. Well, it's a good thing this will be unlikely due to the fact of the complexities of the aging process, not one single therapy or method will prevent aging.
Zenome 1 year ago
@Zenome How can people still be this (Zenome) dumb? Aubrey aproached all those 'stupidnesses' in this freakin video, didn't you even bother to hear?
PedroNGCProductions 11 months ago 2
@Zenome Not everyone will be able to afford this "therapy". Only, once again, the very rich will be able to afford it. They'll want this so they can maintain their grip on humanity for as long as possible.
Kostly 11 months ago
@Kostly Only 'the rich' can afford anything new. Like cars and cell phones....
Saerain 10 months ago
@Kostly And at the moment the rich receive better treatment in old age than poorer people. So what exactly are you trying to avoid? - clearly not pain and suffering... your intellectual dishonesty is staggering.
SidandCoke 9 months ago
He should play Radagast in the hobbit.
Hermoor 1 year ago 4
I could wrap myself up in that beard. #_#
ClovenCorpse13 1 year ago 2
Age 47 but looks like average 30 year old, looks very healthy for 47.
Hermoor 1 year ago
This guy spends a tremendous amount of time talking about everything except what to actually do to maintain youth. Should we? Will we save money? Quit your babbling, and spit out the important details, con man. You talk too much, yet say too little, always a definite sign of not enough content.
PUFFTHEMAGICMARMOT 1 year ago
@PUFFTHEMAGICMARMOT You miss the audience and purpose. The purpose isn't to add 10 more years to someone's life (which is about as much as any average regimen will do) but to fundamentally reverse the aging process.
Compared to cancer, heart disease, alzheimer's, diabetes, and other diseases, aging is a much more common factor in people's death, yet the funding for anti-aging pales in comparison to any of those. And that's his target, one that requires research, as we don't have the answers.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
I think we can all come together and agree that his beard is EPIC
skarules111 1 year ago
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ssssaaafff 1 year ago
Quick Summary:
1. Aging is a problem: suffering, death should be avoided. (1:00-3:00)
2. Thoughts on death: when do you wish to die?/how? (3:00-5:00)
3. Regenerative medicine offers a way to slow/stop aging. By halting damage secondary to metabolism, aging can be halted. Halting can be done by simple maintenance of the body.
4. The human body is a machine. (11:00 :12:00 )
Book Pitch at 15:20.
Novel word: "longevity escape velocity"
SanjayRaisoni 1 year ago 2
His 2006 talk at TED was better. ted.com/talks/aubrey_de_grey_says_we_can_avoid_aging.html
dandvd 1 year ago
Totally disagree, I have watched both and several other Aubrey videos. He is smother, better slides and more entertaining and enthusiastic. His job as he tells it is to promote the health benefits of anti aging and I found this video as great.
ssssaaafff 1 year ago
I want to see Aubrey debate a critic who has a lot of credibility...
Just because I feel like Aubrey might win.
hellomate639 1 year ago
Aubrey needs to upgrade his vocabulary, god...
li7liquid 1 year ago
@li7liquid Maybe so,but he is after all a computer scientist and biologist(more biologist now though),it is not so important how he says it,as long as he does,But I do agree that it has a great impact on people understanding and accepting his speeches.
filipminic91 1 year ago
Guthrie Govan needs to grow his beard.
invertedchords 1 year ago
I won't examine the desirability because I don't think it's feasible.
I won't examine the feasibility because I don't think it's desirable
Yep, heard that a lot.
Aging will be defeated.
"When" is not a matter of science, but a matter of reason winning over superstition and tradition.
So "When?" If people reasoned, it could happen in 5 to 10 years. But given that they don't, it will probably take 50 or more.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
@neoaeonian
Maybe, but I maybe sound silly or naive.. but most of people is turning to be more reasonable than 10 or 20 years ago.. what we see in christianity or islam is.. in my judgement, the last stand of extremely conservative society against these major break throughs in science.
Necropedophile90 1 year ago
@Necropedophile90 Re: people more reasonable than 20 years ago.
I became interested in anti-aging almost 50 years ago, and yes people are more reasonable by far than they were then. But not focused enough to spend the effort to solve this in a decade, though they could (witness the moon landing effort of 60s). The problem will solve itself, given trends. But to solve it quick, we'll need to focus. It's not a simple problem.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
this is great! :)
4michael22 1 year ago
he's to lazy to shave
Nightwithe 1 year ago
@Nightwithe
All those lazy Oxford people...
hellomate639 1 year ago
@Nightwithe I dont blame him!
Starwithnoname 1 year ago
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NGC6188 1 year ago
I take his ideas seriously.
But I cant help but be distracted by the sheer awsomeness of his beard.
spacecowboy95 1 year ago 43
@spacecowboy95 haha yeah
LandyYecla 8 months ago
The guy bleeds genius!
trickyoutrickme 1 year ago 6
De Grey's beard may go beyond western standards, certainly draws the attention of many in front of new audiences. He has some pronunciation problem and seems insecure speaking in public, perhaps shifting the attention helps him relax his insecurity, who knows? In any case, his weird looks & oratory weaknesses doesn't knock down the neat line of his reasoning, whereas better orators with fake arguments manage to captivate their audiences but have no ideas to offer & make you waste your time.
heathmoor 1 year ago
@heathmoor
Having met Aubrey I can assure you he's more than comfortable around crowds -- but -- he always has a lot to say in such a very short space, and often seems to be thinking on his feet. His off-stage personality reminds me a little of Tom Wilkinson's portrayal of Benjamin Franklin in the American series John Adams.
inkstersco 1 year ago
Milions of people die of cancer, aids, aging etc. Now we can do research and
find cures for all diseases. If we can do it, then it becomes a moral
obligation to do so. Turning our back to people who are dying becomes
Imoral. Also, eventually it will be us. So you are turning your back
to YOU! Invest in biotech. Or research it. I am doing my part, as a
student of biotech. What are you doing?
With 2 or 3 times more money and brains in biotech we could cure all diseases in 10 years.
mario6k 1 year ago 21
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Milions of people die of cancer, aids, aging etc. Now we can do research and
find cures for all diseases. If we can do it, then it becomes a moral
obligation to do so. Turning our back to people who are dying becomes
Imoral. Also, eventually it will be us. So you are turning your back
to YOU! Invest in biotech. Or research it. I am doing my part, as a
student of biotech. What are you doing?
With 2 or 3 times more money and brains in biotech we could cure all diseases in 10 years.
mario6k 1 year ago
Merlin is alive!
QuestionableEthics 1 year ago
your right name must be DORIAN!!.......except this you are right!!!!!!!!
pietrod1221 1 year ago
Respect the BEARD!
firuinthehouse 1 year ago 8
Whether his ideas take 50 or 500 years to come to fruition, future Homos will regard Aubrey de Grey as the most important Homo sapien to this point in history.
OmnipotentAnthropoid 1 year ago 3
He's the merlin of science!!!!!!!!
rbdzntsfrlk 1 year ago 4
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30 World Trade Centers???? Talk about a tasteless analogy...
BenNCM 1 year ago
@BenNCM What's tasteless about it? It's the truth.
frusciantelove 1 year ago
@frusciantelove You fucking moron. I will waste no further time on scum like you.
BenNCM 1 year ago
@BenNCM I'm not comfortable with 100,000 innocent people dying every day, particularly not through the vicious processes of aging. Are you? Does it really matter if a terrorist organization orchestrates the deaths? Slow, painful death is bad. Period.
frusciantelove 1 year ago 5
@BenNCM It's a necessary extreme in order to put the reality of how bad the problem is that we all ignore every single day.
Badhabitsjay 1 year ago
@Badhabitsjay We're not ignoring that problem, you people are ridiculous really. There's easily $200 billion dollars spend on medical research every year, that's more than what's spend on space programs and fundamental physics combined.
If anything we are ignoring the fact that we should develop interstellar travel, real energy solutions and methods to deflect meteors if we want to ensure the survival of our SPECIES. But no, having an erection when you're 80 is a lot more important.
noxure 1 year ago
@noxure I think you misunderstood, we do ignore the problem because we consider ageing to be "natural". Anything that steps into a person's philosophical boundary as sounding like immortality instantly makes them brand you a tin foil hat.
The extreme examples and imagery is necessary to illicit a positive response from a typically negative audience.
Badhabitsjay 1 year ago
@Badhabitsjay True, the "fun -> not fun" slide is pretty epic. It's necessary to have this debate, because sooner our later science and technology will allow us to maintain a human body like any other machine and society should be prepared for it. But I think it's wrong to make it a priority to drastically extend peoples lifespans as long as there are still many who don't even have the chance to lead a 'natural' life.
noxure 1 year ago
@noxure Actually, I think focusing on ageing is far more important, the only places the majority don't get to lead a "natural" life are third world countries, this isn't a scientific or medical problem, it's an infrastructure problem and tehrefore not relevant to the scientific discussion. The biggest killer in our day and age is ageing, the second biggest killer is cancer, in order for us to defeat ageing we have to defeat cancer as cancer falls into the category of "cells reproducing too much"
Badhabitsjay 1 year ago
@Badhabitsjay Re: in order to defeat aging we have to defeat cancer
If we defeat aging and ignore cancer, we'll save far more lives than if we defeat cancer and ignore aging. Cancer is far, far more prevalent in 70 year olds than in 20 year olds. Turning every 70 year old back to a 20 year old will greatly lower the death rate from cancer by over 80%. But ending all cancer would only slightly lower the death rate from age related illness.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
@neoaeonian I think you have a major misunderstanding of the problem here. Cancer is an age related illness, 2 of the major problems of aging are cells that stop reproducing properly(cell degradation - visual symptoms of aging) and cells that start over reproducing (cancer).
They are two completely linked problems I'm afraid. Failure to understand that is a failure to understand one of the simplest of things in life extension science.
Badhabitsjay 1 year ago
@Badhabitsjay re: Cancer and Aging are linked -
Only in regards to telomere lengthening mechanisms, which both cancer and anti-aging require.
The body already has cells that rebuild the telomeres, particularly the colon and muscles. The colon has slightly above avarage cancer rates, the muscles do not. Cancer (other than early detection) is not the low-hanging fruit that will extend most lives.
Cure cancer and people will die at 80% the rate they are now. Cure aging and it would be 10%.
neoaeonian 1 year ago
@BenNCM No really. Please explain to us why it's tasteless? He's saying the death toll from aging is a tragedy. He really means it. Why shouldn't he compare it to something like 9/11 to make that point?
I'm not picking a fight. I genuinely want to know what you mean.
RoboDouche 1 year ago
He has his beard so long for he carries pints in it.
ebt12 1 year ago
well done sir
mittROMNEY666 1 year ago
He looks like a Son of Blackbeard. :D
LordGarvals 1 year ago
Understanding the above distinction is key to inculcating an awareness of this work that encourages its continued development in a positive way.
Aubrey, while I love hearing you speak, what you need is a real media, advertising, and PR effort to bring your work to the cultural tipping point in the strategically best possible way.
snowdwellr 1 year ago 47
@snowdwellr
You should email him. I sincerely doubt he'll get this.
Suggest a PR. Hell, find a PR initiative, or someone he could hire. He answers his emails. I've emailed him.
Deraek 1 year ago
@snowdwellr He can make that possible. All he has to do is shave that beard.
navyseals91 1 year ago
One minor point in re 16:48 (that also builds on the other two comments above):
The way the press treats your work, Aubrey, is not designed to keep readers emotionally distant from the issue. Rather, it is designed to do precisely the opposite: engage their most deeply seeded hopes and fears. What the media's treatment does is keep people *intellectually* distant.
snowdwellr 1 year ago 26
I agree, hughtub, it would also, I hope, help people take his very important ideas more seriously.
spoonfuloffructose 1 year ago
Brilliant guy but minimalism is a virtue and a long beard is too high maintenance to be ideal. Oughta trim it to just a few inches long at most.
hughtub 1 year ago
@hughtub Ha! Good joke!
Ch4osW4rrior 1 year ago