The peole who attacked the u.s.s. cole and other millitary establishments could have legitamatly been prosicuted in a courts martial. Like KSM, a real trail as opposed to a show trial could have gone a long way to repairing americas damaged repution and credibility.(unfortunatly protecting war criminals became more important)
...cutters onto international flights. See the difference yet? Lol!
Saying that you think "terrorists deserve to be treated as enemy combatants," and that we should've contained the problem by invading their native countries is a lot like saying that JFK should've treated militant KKK members "as enemy combatants," and that he should've contained the problem by invading Alabama and setting up a new government there that is sympathetic to the Feds. Lol! What stupidity! It's demonstra
"Terrorists" are not an army. They aren't even a military. (In the case of Al-Qaida, at least.) There's no country or government backing them. They are (again, in the case of Al-Qaida, at least) just an extreme, Islamic Right-wing, religious, criminal organization. They are an association of like-minded religious criminals, NOT a country organizing a fighting force bent on our destruction. _Countries_ have cruise missles. _Terrorists_ sneak box
No, dude, she's saying that there are two different kinds of people in this world, with VERY different sets of rights: soldiers and civilians. If you are a soldier, you are following _direct_ orders from your country's government. You have no right to refuse, but you are officially claimed by, working for, and protected by your government. If you are a civilian, however, you are NOT taking orders from any government, but rather you are your own person and can do w/e you want as long
We are not afraid, it's that we are granting terrorists the same rights of citizens. We trialed US soldiers in Military Tribunals for Waterboarding, are you saying that terrorists deserve more rights than the brave hardworking soldiers that fight for our freedom. These trails are a mistake and Rachel Maddow is a flatout idiot.
Not saying that they didn't did or didn't contribute but weren't the people who were responsible for 9/11 on the planes that crashed and werent they told by Osama? (almost wrote Obama) who are these people and what have they "allegedly" done? I know they werent on the planes. Theres a chance that these people are just random people the govt pinned it on.
their on trail... which means there is a possibility that it wasn't them. There is that possibility. if they did it i hope were smart enough to convict them...if they didn't they don't deserve to die in Prison.
"We all know it was Bush anyways... " I guess Bush was also responsible for all the attacks that occurred during the Clinton administration including the '93 WTC bombing. If you believe that Alex Jones B.S. then you should also believe the Obama administration is the flip side of the same coin and has the same N.W.O. agenda.
Why would you say it's Bush's fault? You write about how these terrorist maybe innocent and have nothing to do with the 9/11 attack, but you believe Bush had something to do about it!? Are you an idiot?
As usual, Rachel Maddow doesn't understand the issue. I doubt she ever will. It cracks me up how she sarcastically asks why conservatives think the way they do, yet she's afraid to have one on to actually explain it to her. It's much easier to come across as intelligent when you don't have someone else on the show to contrast your opinion. Get some nerve and have a conservative on Maddow. They don't bite.
I see a lot of conservatives on Rachael Maddow's show. She has a wonderful handle on the issues. She is such a refreshing change from the conservative talking heads that paved the way for her successful ability to piss off the conservatives. And we all know the only good con is a pissed off con. The more they're yelping, the less likely they are to know they're going down the toilet.
I disagree I believe America is not tolerent when it comes to freedom of speech because of all the death threats that follow. If America was so tolerant you could say what you wanted without worring that someone is gonna try and kill you! America is a very violent nation, probably the most violent in the world and I wonder if that has anything to do with freedom of speech especially the NEGATIVE form of speech!
Eric Holder was Attorney General( under Clinton) when USS Cole was attacked. They do not deserve rights under the Constitution! This will be a circus.
New York voted for this train wreck of an administration so if this ends up with New York becoming nothing more than a smoking hole in the ground - so be it.
Why dont we ask some real questions? Sit bush, cheney, donald rumsfeld, rudy guliani, larry silverstein, condeleeza rice, paul wolfowitz, the whole PNAC group, NORAD, and everyone else under oath separated from eachother and see their varied stories. we need to persecute the real conspirators behind 9/11.
McCain: "A war criminal shouldn't have the same rights as an ordinary cicitzen and they should be tried in military tribunals" - great , I'd accept a military trial for Bush and Cheney any day!
They should spend their whole life in a cell, not killed. They should have to sit and wait and think. Killing them is too easy an option. They kill people, so we kill them? Pffft.
Did Wil Wheaton from Star Trek TNG get a sex change!
Geneva Convention does not apply to non-uniformed terrorists that kill civilians and our POW's. They should be tried by military and subject to firing squad if found guilty. It's a two way street , captured US personnel have not received any civilized treatment, in fact they are usually tortured before being murdered.
They aren't war criminals and cannot be tried in World Court because they are not soldiers recognized by the Geneva Convention and thus would never be given a trial in World Court.
The peole who attacked the u.s.s. cole and other millitary establishments could have legitamatly been prosicuted in a courts martial. Like KSM, a real trail as opposed to a show trial could have gone a long way to repairing americas damaged repution and credibility.(unfortunatly protecting war criminals became more important)
dsspike51 3 months ago
@MrJsundy
...It's demonstrably ignorant, out-right _insane_ and just an all-around *TERRIBLE* idea!
macgeek2004 6 months ago
@MrJsundy
...cutters onto international flights. See the difference yet? Lol!
Saying that you think "terrorists deserve to be treated as enemy combatants," and that we should've contained the problem by invading their native countries is a lot like saying that JFK should've treated militant KKK members "as enemy combatants," and that he should've contained the problem by invading Alabama and setting up a new government there that is sympathetic to the Feds. Lol! What stupidity! It's demonstra
macgeek2004 6 months ago
@MrJsundy
...as it doesn't violate civilian law.
"Terrorists" are not an army. They aren't even a military. (In the case of Al-Qaida, at least.) There's no country or government backing them. They are (again, in the case of Al-Qaida, at least) just an extreme, Islamic Right-wing, religious, criminal organization. They are an association of like-minded religious criminals, NOT a country organizing a fighting force bent on our destruction. _Countries_ have cruise missles. _Terrorists_ sneak box
macgeek2004 6 months ago
@MrJsundy
No, dude, she's saying that there are two different kinds of people in this world, with VERY different sets of rights: soldiers and civilians. If you are a soldier, you are following _direct_ orders from your country's government. You have no right to refuse, but you are officially claimed by, working for, and protected by your government. If you are a civilian, however, you are NOT taking orders from any government, but rather you are your own person and can do w/e you want as long
macgeek2004 6 months ago
What a joke this is, the actual perps will never be brought in, they're sipping cocktails on a beach right now.
MrROTD 1 year ago
We are not afraid, it's that we are granting terrorists the same rights of citizens. We trialed US soldiers in Military Tribunals for Waterboarding, are you saying that terrorists deserve more rights than the brave hardworking soldiers that fight for our freedom. These trails are a mistake and Rachel Maddow is a flatout idiot.
MrJsundy 1 year ago
@MrJsundy Why are we treating 9/11 attacks different from the 93 attacks their the same thing both were criminal acts not acts of war.
JJbubbs 1 year ago
Are we afraid of terrorism?
If we are, the terrorists win...
and we are pussies.
squanto2 2 years ago
9:15 is the man in the background doing laps?
Paulwhoisvegan 2 years ago
What is that man behind Senator Whitehouse doing?
Paulwhoisvegan 2 years ago
out of anger we could convict innocent people while the people responsible are still out there...
lilramey01 2 years ago
LogansGT good point. they could have someone on the jury that is Radical Muslim...
lilramey01 2 years ago
Not saying that they didn't did or didn't contribute but weren't the people who were responsible for 9/11 on the planes that crashed and werent they told by Osama? (almost wrote Obama) who are these people and what have they "allegedly" done? I know they werent on the planes. Theres a chance that these people are just random people the govt pinned it on.
lilramey01 2 years ago
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DaGreatKikos 2 years ago
their on trail... which means there is a possibility that it wasn't them. There is that possibility. if they did it i hope were smart enough to convict them...if they didn't they don't deserve to die in Prison.
We all know it was Bush anyways...
lilramey01 2 years ago
"We all know it was Bush anyways... " I guess Bush was also responsible for all the attacks that occurred during the Clinton administration including the '93 WTC bombing. If you believe that Alex Jones B.S. then you should also believe the Obama administration is the flip side of the same coin and has the same N.W.O. agenda.
SaddamsFedora 2 years ago
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Why would you say it's Bush's fault? You write about how these terrorist maybe innocent and have nothing to do with the 9/11 attack, but you believe Bush had something to do about it!? Are you an idiot?
DaGreatKikos 2 years ago
As usual, Rachel Maddow doesn't understand the issue. I doubt she ever will. It cracks me up how she sarcastically asks why conservatives think the way they do, yet she's afraid to have one on to actually explain it to her. It's much easier to come across as intelligent when you don't have someone else on the show to contrast your opinion. Get some nerve and have a conservative on Maddow. They don't bite.
cano21 2 years ago
I see a lot of conservatives on Rachael Maddow's show. She has a wonderful handle on the issues. She is such a refreshing change from the conservative talking heads that paved the way for her successful ability to piss off the conservatives. And we all know the only good con is a pissed off con. The more they're yelping, the less likely they are to know they're going down the toilet.
callouschristian 2 years ago
I disagree I believe America is not tolerent when it comes to freedom of speech because of all the death threats that follow. If America was so tolerant you could say what you wanted without worring that someone is gonna try and kill you! America is a very violent nation, probably the most violent in the world and I wonder if that has anything to do with freedom of speech especially the NEGATIVE form of speech!
iLuvAkeys4ever 2 years ago
Eric Holder was Attorney General( under Clinton) when USS Cole was attacked. They do not deserve rights under the Constitution! This will be a circus.
sogairborne 2 years ago
Justice was delayed because of people like these idiot commentators at msnbc
jaaagosto 2 years ago 2
We now know why MSNBC's ratings are in the toilet. Americans are going to die. Mostly civilians because the terrorist will be treated with kid gloves
jaaagosto 2 years ago 2
New York voted for this train wreck of an administration so if this ends up with New York becoming nothing more than a smoking hole in the ground - so be it.
TexanFiveThree 2 years ago
Why dont we ask some real questions? Sit bush, cheney, donald rumsfeld, rudy guliani, larry silverstein, condeleeza rice, paul wolfowitz, the whole PNAC group, NORAD, and everyone else under oath separated from eachother and see their varied stories. we need to persecute the real conspirators behind 9/11.
thechadmanhl2 2 years ago
Firing squad anyone?
webhead124 2 years ago
McCain: "A war criminal shouldn't have the same rights as an ordinary cicitzen and they should be tried in military tribunals" - great , I'd accept a military trial for Bush and Cheney any day!
happyinnanaimo 2 years ago
I would love to see Ann Coulture or Michelle Malkem rip this bitch a new asshole.
limajoe100 2 years ago
Rachel Maddow = typical MSNBC far-left tool.
People aren't upset that they're being brought to justice, they're upset about where it's being done.
Prosecuting "alleged" terrorists in civilian court is the dumbest thing that this naive administration has done to date.
They should have held the trials in the Bronx Zoo, because it's gonna be a media circus.
This process will prove to be a huge mistake and our enemies will be laughing at us if a jury finds even one of these cretins not guilty.
logansGT 2 years ago 2
"This process will prove to be a huge mistake and our enemies will be laughing at us if a jury finds even one of these cretins not guilty."
So, either you think they aren't guilty or you think the justice system doesn't work.
GoldeneBremm 2 years ago
@GoldenBrown - Here's another possibility.
There's a Muslim jury member with the same mindset as the OJ Simpson jury.
logansGT 2 years ago
@lohansClit (ha, ha)
So, the justice system doesn't work?
GoldeneBremm 2 years ago
@GoldenShower (*_~)
The justice system might work just fine if there weren't so many jury members whose IQ is the same as their age.
logansGT 2 years ago
In 4:04, since when does President Obama have a lighter skin tone than Bush?? WTF??
harshLesson 2 years ago
They should spend their whole life in a cell, not killed. They should have to sit and wait and think. Killing them is too easy an option. They kill people, so we kill them? Pffft.
bcFiRe12 2 years ago
Did Wil Wheaton from Star Trek TNG get a sex change!
Geneva Convention does not apply to non-uniformed terrorists that kill civilians and our POW's. They should be tried by military and subject to firing squad if found guilty. It's a two way street , captured US personnel have not received any civilized treatment, in fact they are usually tortured before being murdered.
SaddamsFedora 2 years ago
Scum, madmen, criminals and enemies of humanity. Try them as such, throw them in jail and lets forget them.
xhagast 2 years ago
Because there was no war John. They weren't soldiers Rudi...they were terrorists...remember that word? Your Republican brand.
Thanks Rachel. You just keep exposing these hypocrites time after time. You are beacon of truth and responsible journalism.
seamoremonster 2 years ago 4
"They do not wear uniforms, so the Geneva Convetion does not apply"
Roonskii 2 years ago
They aren't war criminals and cannot be tried in World Court because they are not soldiers recognized by the Geneva Convention and thus would never be given a trial in World Court.
deathVANQUISHED 2 years ago
i <3 Rachel. she's so awesome.
TheOnlyOreilly 2 years ago 4