I challenge Labarum312 to refute Graffffik on Biblical alteration and Biblical Plagiarism~!

[garyheller55661]

THROWDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[graffffik]

Other 'Egyptian' Similarities to 'The Bible' OSIRIS had a 'last meal' which he offered up BEER* symbolizing his Blood, Pastry to symbolize his body, then proclaimed one amongst his followers would Betray him. The next day a Follower did betray him bu Crucifying him into pieces (crucify because he knew he was to be killed and went anyways)

BEER* is a regular religious practice often mixed with narcotics to symbolize 'Blood Of gods' Nearly every Egyptian 'good' god had a ritual like this

[graffffik]

Be back later guys don't have much time to stay here leave a message on my background if you need me

[graffffik]

'RA' created the universe in nearly identical fashion to how 'the Gods' Did it in 'The Egyptian Book of the dead' (sorry can't think of exact section off hand maybe 'A hymn to Ra' )

Egyptology also had a 'Garden of 2 Trees' of which all gods, and all man were originally formed. Tended by a 'Divine Lady Of EDIN' It of course came fully equipped with an evil tempting serpent

This later info is harder to come by but it is part of Egyptian religion

[Dhorpatan]

@graffffik

Labarum on this video : watch?v=45uKY9JDFt8

basically implies you are wrong about the alternations. If I understand Labarum correctly, he is saying less than 2% of the texts are altered/changed in the manner of serious doubt on them, in the New testament texts.

In that video, he also says Osiris doesn't get resurrected nor rises from the dead. He rises from the living, to living among the dead. Can you refute Labarum on this video Grafffik : watch?v=45uKY9JDFt8

[graffffik]

@Dhorpatan

Resurrection of 'Horus' in 'The Pyramid Texts' circa approx 2400 BCE

SARCOPHAGUS CHAMBER Utterance 219

167: To say the words:

"Atum, this your son is here, Osiris, whom you have preserved alive. He lives! He lives! This Unas lives! He is not dead, this Unas is not dead! He is not gone down, this Unas is not gone down! He has not been judged, this Unas has not been judged! He judges, this Unas judges!

Resurrection of Osiris by Horus is in the Pyramid texts as well

[lipoicacid]

@graffffik Ra and all of the Egyptian gods are one.Each is a manifestation of the one god most likely Kneph-the Oroboros serpent.Edin was an man made irrigated plain in the area of Sumer.

[graffffik]

I'll review this video later been a bit busy and Just been told of it.

1st off the bible is in fact plagiarized there's zero doubt in this

Plagiarized does not always mean word for word match. For example google

"The Egyptian Book of the Dead Spell 125"

Nearly every last commandment is in here including all the petty ones in the following sections. All authors did was change things like "I WILL NOT' to "THOU SHALT NOT"

[graffffik]

'THE BIBLE' is NOT a book by 'the Jews' it is an altered, changed, skewed, amended, whole sections deleted, whole sections added and so on. it is 100% invention of the Holy Roman "CATHOLIC" Empire' and later re-edited, re-changed, re-altered and so on constantly to this day via various cultures.

For example 'RED SEA' = Complete nonsense. no ancient Jew reported any 'red sea' or anybody 'parting' it This was altered from 'PARTING OF THE REEDS' which was said by ancient jews

[XxC0NDEMNEDxX]

@graffffik Ah, that makes even more sense. I know christianity was copied by another particular religion that predates it by thousands of years, but I didn't realize that it also stole its ideas from Egyptian mythology. I think they also stole some ideas from Sumerian mythology. I've read some important parts of ancient texts and noticed many similarities in all of them. Not only is the bible completely absurd and contradictory to science, it's just another useless forgery.

[graffffik]

@XxC0NDEMNEDxX

They 'borrowed' from everyone they could (the word 'plagiarized was not invented yet)

Noahs ark is in fact altered from 'The Epic Of Gilgamesh Tablet 11' Adam and Eve is in fact altered from 'The Epic Of Gilgamesh Tablet 1' (Sumerian / Syrian / Mesopotamian)

In case of Tablet 1 it was a 'wild man' tempted by a 'Harlot' with the food and drink of 'the gods' which gave 'Understanding of all knowledge' With slight tweaking they made that into Adam and eve and a 'tree of knowledge'

[XxC0NDEMNEDxX]

@graffffik Hmm. Seems like the biblical authors were trying to be sneaky little assholes, making it seem like their book is original until an educated person inspects the other texts and compares the similarities. Was Lilith part of the Adam and Eve story too? I've heard a lot about Lilith being Adam's first wife, but they removed her from the story because it conflicted with their preferences for certain content in the book.

[graffffik]

@XxC0NDEMNEDxX

Nothing of 'the bible' is 'first stories' of 'the old testament'

For that you need to reed JEWISH TEXTS from between 100 bce and 1000 bce

perhaps try 'The Dead sea scrolls' for an early account of that

'The Bible' is an 'EDIT JOB' of countless authors re-editing the stories whenever they see fit.

'Jews' (the kingdom of Judea' originally wrote the original Old Testament stories Not 'The Bible'

[XxC0NDEMNEDxX]

@graffffik If you haven't already read any ancient texts from India, I recommend researching the story of Krishna. He is a messiah/god who did all of the things Jesus supposedly did. That one predates the bible and possibly even the original texts. I suspect that even the original Judea-Christian texts are results of plagiarism.

[graffffik]

@XxC0NDEMNEDxX

I am aware of that as well. However think of a Huge MIXER. You got this blender, you toss in all well-known stories of the time, mix them all together, add a bit of spice pour it into a mold and bake - You get Jesus Horus however did around 80% or more of what Jesus did, with only slight variations, Miracle birth, under star, child teacher, followers, raising the dead, death, 3 days in hell glorious ascension to heaven etc

others perhaps 20-50%

[XxC0NDEMNEDxX]

@graffffik Also, Apollonius of Tyana. He is another messiah figure who supposedly healed people and raised the dead. It's all magical nonsense. The only way ANY of it can be true is if extraterrestrials visited this planet and provided extraordinary technology to simulate magical powers. Many ancient texts and wall inscriptions actually describe spacecraft descending from the sky and strange people exiting the ships, having god-like powers from superior technology. They worshiped them as gods.

[graffffik]

@XxC0NDEMNEDxX

'RAISING THE DEAD' = plants regrowing after snow melts by THE SUN.

'Healing the Sick' = THE SAME. 'I was Blind, And Now I can See!' = MORNING

Fighting evil and winning = Night is over and daytime comes

It's not magical space beings doing it. these myths are hymns and chants to that big yellow ball of hot gas in the daytime sky. THE SUN. they just make long drawn out elaborate myths to it

It's sun worship

[XxC0NDEMNEDxX]

@graffffik Indeed, some of it is sun and moon worship.

[XxC0NDEMNEDxX]

(Continued...) That is the ONLY way any of these myths could be remotely true. If extraterrestrial beings were not the cause, then it was all purely imagination.

[graffffik]

@XxC0NDEMNEDxX

zeitgeistmovie . com no spaces - the vid on right pretty much sums how religion was created

BE WARNED HOWEVER here's were people fail to pay attention

the guy says 'BROADLY SPEAKING THE FOLLOWING IS TRUE' remember this

He is discussing parallels not 100% word for word matches

Like Jesus had Followers he called disciples. Horus had followers who did his bidding and preached his words These are not IDENTICAL but there is enough contextual similarity to call it IDENTICAL CONTEXT

[XxC0NDEMNEDxX]

@graffffik I've seen all the Zeitgeist movies. The producer's information is indeed accurate and verified with archaeological evidence. 

[lipoicacid]

@XxC0NDEMNEDxX No need to suspect it.They are mostly plagiarized.You can start with the Ugaritic and Hittite texts.

[HonestTechnoAtheist]

The best Labby could do is show that christianity has not been copied, this would in no way prove that it is true.

[ozmoroid]

If Christianity had a "beer and bread" Eucharist I might rethink my atheism. ;-)

[supersmash43]

Great question. I know for certain much of the Bible has been edited and revised i.e. in Exodus 22:18 "thou shall not let a witch live" is probably an example of a verse that was added in the Middle Ages or Inquisition. I wonder how much the Koran has been edited from its original form.

[nutty01]

thank you



[Alaric11]

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