UNBELIEVABLY AMAZING!!!! Durham, NC YOU should be PROUD of these 4 AMBASSADORS - FAB to the 7th power!!! They make me ashamed to be from Houston, Texas - we got nothing like them especially in 1982. Eh, good in business not great - Great in hospitality to visitors and new persons though. Great to minorities- Great INTERNATIONAL business city!!! Of which I am eternally grateful and proud but no drummers like yours! Oh well, can't have everything...
Daryl was my drum instructor from jr high through high school. This guy truly knew his music and was an awesome teacher. Never let us slack and demanded the best. He is the best teacher in NC!!!
Seeing how amazing and revolutionary this must have been to watch, i definitely don't think there was enough applause regardless of the amount of people in the crowd..
im shocked at many of the comments that were made. why can't people understand the significance of the video and read the description before lashing out. it doesnt matter that to some people they played "dirty" or that they were a "race" its the reality check you get. look at how far drumming has come since then. white, black asian, native.? doesnt matter. drumming is drumming and all that matters is "Respect". Real musicians recognize other musicians and show Respect for their efforts.
And in this world, someone like Justin Biber gets so much money, gets so famous, gets all the views other talented youtubers deserved, and all that, really, all that just because its good for the god damn music industry
@bobbyhawk. Yep - saw Jax do expo around 77 and they were doing some of this same stuff: A tomtom player on one end of line hit his left drum VERY HARD, popped his stick over entire lines heads, entire line passed a stick while it was flying, and drummer on other end stuck his hand out, caught the stick and they kept playing 'next door' etc. I've never seen anything like it to this day!! Those boys were BAD TO THE BONE. For the record I'm blk and their line was mostly wht. I SAW THIS IN 77!!
I can vouch for bobbyhawk re Jax State. Jax did expo at band competion they hosted in 76 or 77. Jax drumline was jamming/doing all this fancy stuff, playing each others drums etc. A tom tom player hit his left drum VERY HARD and popped/flew his stick over the ENTIRE drumline's heads. While it flew they all shifted a stick. Drummer on other end of line stuck out his hand, caught it and they picked up the jam!! I've never seen/heard anything like it to this day!! I repeat, this was 76 or 77!
I admire these brothers because that was an awesome performance! However, I remember our snare drummers were sticking like that back in the late 70's.
in 1982 this playing style would have been right off from DCI corps drumming of the mid to late 1970s. Drum lines did not start wearing leveled snares until the mid 1970s. Prior to that everything was traditional angled snare with thigh grip (heavy drums). The sticking is mixed traditional and DCI from that era. I remember back sticking from the early 1960s.
So you're the idiots that helped popularize that it doesn't matter what you sound like (that is the dirtiest worst snareline I've ever heard, seriously) it only matters what you look like. This kind of thinking is the reason why black college bands are a joke. Anyone who was in a real band program ever in their lives HATES show style marching. It is a controlled chaos. I challenge anyone black, white, or purple with polka-dots to look at DCI and then look at show style. DCI is all around better.
Also, to the video describer: This may have been started by 4 blacks and initially picked up by black schools, but don't you think it would be fair to say that it laid the foundation for ALL high school and college drumlines, no matter the race? We owe a lot of musical background to black culture, but blacks certainly not the only ones who play on drumlines these days.
@ptrol06 Nope. if my memory serves me correctly The Drumline was accualy Done by whites.. if you want to get racial. Drummer boys back in the civle war used the beat as a moral booster and a march beat.. witch was then brought to Military acadamies such as west point. were it was a practice... of course not as Sufisticated as The Drumlines of recent years. but all the same. 3-5 drummers would Perfect a Synced Fast paced Beat in front of OTher students. BTW fuck races. were all HUMAN
@tatumestes Credit where credit is due!!!!!!! Without a beginning, there would be no today. Why is it that even, today, others try to take away and/or deny accolades for the "firsts" by Black Americans? Remember.... if it was not for the then/ there would be no today nor tomorrow! Video describer, you are on the mark!
Considering that they probably had no real "teacher" for what they were doing here, one might expect them to be "dirty," so I find it unnecessary to point that out. Enjoy the historical value of what you're watching.
This goes way back when there were drummer boys hundreds years ago! marching with an army, they never invented this lmao. How dumb to make such a dumbfounded statement, what next they invented cars! haha.
Rudimentary drumming is older than the US. Backsticking and other "flash" is great but does not show off your chops. As others have pointed out, this is not clean. They sacrificed precision for showmanship, great for the uneducated crowds but not much else. High tension snares, PHOOEY! Try a skin head tightened with ropes; they have as much bounce as a phone book. Look up the Old Gaurd Drum Line. These guys may have inspired black drum lines, but "we started it all" is a laughable claim
@GregTheWhat I think because drum lines are a European oriented, used in Military and Parades.
This is more entertainment oriented plus emphasis on ethnicity of the drummers, may be to signal that they are free from European rigid performance traditions.
@GregTheWhat Because their traditional style of playing is linked to New Orleans style funeral bands. This style is more Corps style and disciplined. It requires extreme precision and team work to get this to work right. All the drummers must be on the same level of playing ability, in order to add the precision sticking and movements such as these. New Orleans style does not have this order of discipline in either playing or execution
@al928028 Are you nuts? Southern drum corps are the best in the USA. I would stack Jax State (Jacksonville Alabama) against anything DCI has to offer. Don't forget drum corps were born from the Scots and their pipe and drum corps. And where did the Scots settle in the United States ? Oh yea that would be North Carolina and South Carolina and Georgia and the hills or Tennessee. So the whole drum corp tradition is from the south
@bobbykhawk wow...you must have never seen DCI. Not only is there music more entertaining and complex but visually there is no comparison to those of the Corps in DCI. I feel bad for you if you think a university could stack against the likes of the Blue Devils, Cavaliers, Cadets, Caralina Crown, Phantom Regiment, Santa Clara Vanguard, Blue Coats and MANY others. You are SERIOUSLY missing out.
No, YOU'RE the dipshit. This was so fucking dirty it's pathetic. Hi-moms have been around since the dawn of time, and backstickings like those shown have been as well. mines434, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, you've apparently never heard of DCI, have you? This isn't High School shit, not college drumline. You tour for roughly three months, and each day, you commit 12-16 hours to your Corps, it's fucking hard as hell, and it consumes your life, your money, and time.
Great ass video, these guys changed drumlines for black and white schools. Yes, drumline the movie did all there moves. Until further proof of another video claiming to have started these drum moves, shut up and respect the Kings who started it all.
@mines434 Black Market Juggler is based on a song by Weather Report. I was done in DCI by the bridgemen ( taught and written by Dennis Delucia ) in 1982 and again in 1983. If you wanna see where these stick tricks came from lookup Oakland crusaders ( late 70's / taught by Tom Float ) and look up Anaheim Kingsmen 73 and 74. What is now " DCI " drumming and " HBCU " drumming all cam from 50's/60's drum corps ( before dci exhisted maybe VFW ?). Before that military 1800s us. 1300s the Swiss
sometimes i debate whether to help encourage some people when they make a statement such as: We started it all", to know the truth about what they say and then point to the trillion examples such as drumlines with african american drummers that are ALOT cleaner and have chops, but sometimes is it better to leave them with their own understanding?
i choose most of the time to share knowledge and encourage others to explore DCI from rob carson, sco jo, to steve campbell,feff queen
@jackhammer10101 - if you expand the title to see the entire description, you will notice that it's stated that they started this type of dumming at the highschools and colleges that they attended (They were not saying that they were the first to start this). 3 of us werent even old enough to have a drivers permit and of course we got much better. The oldest went on to play snare for Bayonne Bridgmen..
i want to say this nicely...Los Altos high school, Independence high school were some of the best lines out there...in 1982-1983 los altos got crushed by independence high school ....because more than half of Santa Clara Vanguard was in the high school line !!!
can you imagine HALF OF SCV in a high school line....what do you think these guys would look like if Independence high school or los altos high school were up on stage before them...
@Nameless531 may be comfortable for him to play don't tell these guys how to play they could rap you pure nature it's not about technique when your original.
jesus christ people.... really???? ummm comparing DCI to this style of drumming is ridiculous. like apples and oranges lol. yeah they aren't the greatest, but then again if you compare cavies 79 to cavies 2010 they really don't seem that impressive either... if you have an opinion why don't you check things out and do you own research on HBCU's (historically black colleges/universities)
I was in the Cavaliers back in 1979, and we used to battle the Vanguard back in the late 70s, So I don't know who these guys are saying they started it all.
They're sloppy as hell, they don't move together, and there sticking is not tight at all.
We were doing all that stuff in field competitions, drumline showoff spots in parade routes, football/basketball games all the time.
@toopster1 umm seeing how he was referring to a style of marching that includes the tricks and so on.. i seriously doubt that the 1979 director of the cavies was going around and teaching this stuff to various HBCU's so ummm how about we read and understand everything in the description, before talking and making ourselves look like an ignorant prick... remember apples and oranges
Just saying, even if I get bashed for liking the Cadets...but yeah...Cadets have been around for 75, this is going to be their 76th year...1935 man. I don't know if there are any groups before '35...but 35 is definitely before '82...you're not really close...at all.
Great to see this old skool video. This number although a little different than when performed by the Bridgemen drum and bugle corps, but if I am correct this tune was written by Dennis Delucia the drum caption head for the bayonne Bridgemen who won high drums in 1982 for this solo. I will still give credit to these young men for what they did back in the day. here's the link to the Bridgemen performing Black Market Juggler at the 1982 PASIC conference
Honestly, these guys are amazing. And I know drum lines are supposed to be in sync and things but I think (as a percussionist myself) that percussionists should show some style in their own unique way. These guys are kind of robotic. But they are FANTASTIC drummers.
according to researchers, these techniques were used my volcanic roks a few years before the dinosaurs existed. so they are not really original... who fkin cares if its not original, its awesome and thats what counts the most.
what I hear is PLUH PLUH PLUH PLUH PLUHYJGFFHDFDGHHDH!! especially for the diddles, but hey they have only been playing for one year who could blame them.
Sorry, but this is not even close. Not for drumlines at all and I doubt for "black" drumlines.
Do some homework. Look up on YouTube: Alex Duthart. He's been doing this stuff since the '60's. Also, research John Bosworth. He was with the Air Force Pipe Band back in the early 1960's. They played at Kennedy's funeral. He has been doing this type of style for decades. I've seen him perform.
Duthart did this stuff on an album in the 1960's. So, these guys are hardly original.
@LakeHighiii Back then it was not called Scotland..nor were they called Irish..or British. Those 3 places were called the Celt tribes. Interconnected. Many things and lore and history. Look up queen Boudica.
@LakeHighiii If you read the description you'd see these were the first BLACK drummers, who spured black drumlines. Read the fucking description smartass.
Uh, no, no where near right. This style goes so far back no one knows who started it and to claim that black people didn't play like this till 82 is simply incorrect. Besides that, the stuff these guys are attempting to play (I mean that kindly) is much better than the trash in that idiotic movie Drumline. That movie did an extreme disservice to the black community and percussionists everywhere. And I was playing in quartets by eight grade that were cleaner than this.
Absolutely incorrect on every level. First, this drum line style is very different from the Highland style. If you were a snare drummer in a pipe band, you would know this. Second, the Highland snare style was born in military regiments, the first being the Royal Regiment of Foot in 1633. Also, the snare drum evolved from a medieval drum called the "tabor" which was hand held...played with one stick, over 1,000 years after Christ. Where the hell did you get your information?
@LakeHighiii Modern Scottish style was invented by Alex Duthart in the late 70s and early 80s. The pipes have been around a while, but the drums never came to fruition til Duthart.
@TheJoe101 stupid comment sir this was 1982 meaning it was good for its time you dummy.I marched DCI for 2 years in the late 90's it makes me feel good to see this style even attempted in 82.
@TheJoe101 This was actually a DCI tune but you obviously are too young to know it. These guys helped put DCI where it is today so you should check your history before spewing B.S.
Now that is awesome historical footage...Right on man, right on!!!! Each and every culture or subculture has something inspirational to offer, just open your eyes and mind...
wait a minute bruh. you axed my comment when I defended your description. You were the only black competitors and made a milestone in history. you axed me but left the racist and insulting comment, why are all the black people fast? cause all the slow ones are in jail. What is wrong with my people?
No individual can claim they started it all because it is impossisible to find exactly where anything started. I knew these guys back then and the truth is that they NEVER presented themselve as CREATING a NEW drumming technique. It was Bridgemen's Black Market Juggler that's all. What cant be shown in a short video is the work that was the work done later in college and DCI and the others who picked up where they left off.
Give these guys props. All the debate among drummers still on the comments tells you something about their talent level. Sure the poster boast of starting it all inspires debate but if people weren't acknowledging these guys talent, they would just laugh it off completely.
I think you should say, these 4 youngmen CHANGED. You should patent or copyright your creation. Every black person should. We are stolen from but treated like crap.
For all you people nagging the ones saying "dirty" because you're too deaf to understand that it is dirty, stop. This vid is nothing special. African americans have been drumming with this technique since the civil war. As for the back sticking and various other things, thats not technique, thats a gimmick. They started nothing, DCI has been around since 1972, outdating these guys by a decade. I'm sorry if to some of you this sounds and looks amazing, but its not. plus its not even their piece.
I kinda HARDLY fucking doubt these people started it, because in 1978 my Uncle got tired of doing routine stuff and had a secret percussion sectional with UT's percussion and in the middle of the game all boring he started playing the song and one by one the rest of the section started to join in. So you started it my ass.
We were playing Marty Hurley charts (about 30 years with the Phantom Regiment) that were at least at this level and playing them cleaner with a full drumline in the mid to late 70s at Pearl High School of Pearl MS. This group is neither excellent for its time(80s), its location(the South) or its level (high school)--even outside of DCI.
UNBELIEVABLY AMAZING!!!! Durham, NC YOU should be PROUD of these 4 AMBASSADORS - FAB to the 7th power!!! They make me ashamed to be from Houston, Texas - we got nothing like them especially in 1982. Eh, good in business not great - Great in hospitality to visitors and new persons though. Great to minorities- Great INTERNATIONAL business city!!! Of which I am eternally grateful and proud but no drummers like yours! Oh well, can't have everything...
yvetteaonmyown 1 month ago
BAD ASS SHIT!!
lardhasfoundhislunch 1 month ago
Even if you did invent it, it doesn't make you the REAL Drumline, just the first. And you obviously didn't perfect it.
GDItsMeInTheFlesh 2 months ago
does anybody else care that the routine is sloppy?
mldrake01 2 months ago
Personally I don't like lines with snares like that. I think they're pussys. With a sound like that you're getting fake cleanliness.
Itachi90125 2 months ago
WOW!!
Mspendragon72 2 months ago
Aggie pride!! C/O 2004
Th3Gam31z0va 2 months ago
I KNEW IT WAS THE BLACKS!
999124999 3 months ago
@999124999 Soul stirring + amazing = !Blacks!
yvetteaonmyown 1 month ago
If these four "started it all in 1982", then what were those other guys playing during the Revolutionary War?
CR4TES 4 months ago
@CR4TES They were playing the basics. Tch...
yvetteaonmyown 1 month ago
weres the kevlar heads.......
Dubstepmeliek 4 months ago
@Dubstepmeliek Not invented yet bro
poopmcdoopdoop 2 months ago
LIE!!!... FAMU has been doin this kinda stuff since the (19)70's!!!... and this is only mediocre play
MrSuauveG 4 months ago
Daryl was my drum instructor from jr high through high school. This guy truly knew his music and was an awesome teacher. Never let us slack and demanded the best. He is the best teacher in NC!!!
bigshawty23 4 months ago
Seeing how amazing and revolutionary this must have been to watch, i definitely don't think there was enough applause regardless of the amount of people in the crowd..
TheSwiftyStars 5 months ago
im shocked at many of the comments that were made. why can't people understand the significance of the video and read the description before lashing out. it doesnt matter that to some people they played "dirty" or that they were a "race" its the reality check you get. look at how far drumming has come since then. white, black asian, native.? doesnt matter. drumming is drumming and all that matters is "Respect". Real musicians recognize other musicians and show Respect for their efforts.
-B20
Brinan20 5 months ago
And in this world, someone like Justin Biber gets so much money, gets so famous, gets all the views other talented youtubers deserved, and all that, really, all that just because its good for the god damn music industry
Sorry, but this has to be a fucking joke...
2PacOnSky 5 months ago
STAND UP
Wzilder1 6 months ago
@bobbyhawk. Yep - saw Jax do expo around 77 and they were doing some of this same stuff: A tomtom player on one end of line hit his left drum VERY HARD, popped his stick over entire lines heads, entire line passed a stick while it was flying, and drummer on other end stuck his hand out, caught the stick and they kept playing 'next door' etc. I've never seen anything like it to this day!! Those boys were BAD TO THE BONE. For the record I'm blk and their line was mostly wht. I SAW THIS IN 77!!
NKLnDime 6 months ago
I can vouch for bobbyhawk re Jax State. Jax did expo at band competion they hosted in 76 or 77. Jax drumline was jamming/doing all this fancy stuff, playing each others drums etc. A tom tom player hit his left drum VERY HARD and popped/flew his stick over the ENTIRE drumline's heads. While it flew they all shifted a stick. Drummer on other end of line stuck out his hand, caught it and they picked up the jam!! I've never seen/heard anything like it to this day!! I repeat, this was 76 or 77!
NKLnDime 6 months ago
I admire these brothers because that was an awesome performance! However, I remember our snare drummers were sticking like that back in the late 70's.
R4Love365 6 months ago
Starts at 0:50
DerSupersepp777 6 months ago
...they are dirty...
BM270musician 6 months ago
Search this video "Da'ood solo Darbuka with kick and hi-hat (samba) "
saleemdebu 6 months ago
No im sorry da Native American started this, we all just shred da drum and it was a lot bigger >(-_-)< ... LoL ...
savagejoe1983 6 months ago
i'm still trying to figure it out. what did you start??
crimn 7 months ago
Nice uniforms ;)
FirebrandNIRE 7 months ago
AMAZING TALENT!!!!!! close your eyes and tell me if you know what color they are.
sparkyinfla 7 months ago
just 1 year!
oharakatie14 7 months ago
in 1982 this playing style would have been right off from DCI corps drumming of the mid to late 1970s. Drum lines did not start wearing leveled snares until the mid 1970s. Prior to that everything was traditional angled snare with thigh grip (heavy drums). The sticking is mixed traditional and DCI from that era. I remember back sticking from the early 1960s.
bobbykhawk 7 months ago
souds like 4 drummers,the Santa CLARA VANGUARDS 10 SNARES SOUND LIKE 1
SKYBRITE 7 months ago 2
@SKYBRITE Agreed.
bluedevilsfanatic 6 months ago
Some of yall are so smart, yall cant even read SMH.
toofpick151 7 months ago
come on man, if you're going to claim ownership, do it while playing clean...
thisistides97 7 months ago
To be honest, Drum Corps were doing a lot of this before '82..
ghostlat 8 months ago 7
@ghostlat yes but not black drumlines. if you read the description it says so
TheDragonmaster18 5 months ago
we were doing better routines at ut-arlington 3 years before these guys, they aren't that special
mikee047x1 8 months ago
So you're the idiots that helped popularize that it doesn't matter what you sound like (that is the dirtiest worst snareline I've ever heard, seriously) it only matters what you look like. This kind of thinking is the reason why black college bands are a joke. Anyone who was in a real band program ever in their lives HATES show style marching. It is a controlled chaos. I challenge anyone black, white, or purple with polka-dots to look at DCI and then look at show style. DCI is all around better.
MySkeptic 8 months ago
So which one is Nick Cannon? :P
thatguitarkid 9 months ago
you started it all? YOU MUST BE KIDDING
Jerrytb1 9 months ago
Aaaannnnndddd just like in the movie "Drumline", the playing sucks.
ktphotog39 9 months ago
Also, to the video describer: This may have been started by 4 blacks and initially picked up by black schools, but don't you think it would be fair to say that it laid the foundation for ALL high school and college drumlines, no matter the race? We owe a lot of musical background to black culture, but blacks certainly not the only ones who play on drumlines these days.
tatumestes 10 months ago 8
@tatumestes - I was simply saying that we started this type of drumming at the highschools and colleges that we attended.
ptrol06 7 months ago
@ptrol06 Nope. if my memory serves me correctly The Drumline was accualy Done by whites.. if you want to get racial. Drummer boys back in the civle war used the beat as a moral booster and a march beat.. witch was then brought to Military acadamies such as west point. were it was a practice... of course not as Sufisticated as The Drumlines of recent years. but all the same. 3-5 drummers would Perfect a Synced Fast paced Beat in front of OTher students. BTW fuck races. were all HUMAN
lo0nyt0on666 6 months ago
@ptrol06 u didnt start shit nigga
lastmanstandingtv 3 months ago
@tatumestes Credit where credit is due!!!!!!! Without a beginning, there would be no today. Why is it that even, today, others try to take away and/or deny accolades for the "firsts" by Black Americans? Remember.... if it was not for the then/ there would be no today nor tomorrow! Video describer, you are on the mark!
fancee222 3 months ago
Considering that they probably had no real "teacher" for what they were doing here, one might expect them to be "dirty," so I find it unnecessary to point that out. Enjoy the historical value of what you're watching.
tatumestes 10 months ago
eh, blue devils can do better
Trapmaker677 10 months ago
ARE YOU SURE
JPSFT18 10 months ago
This goes way back when there were drummer boys hundreds years ago! marching with an army, they never invented this lmao. How dumb to make such a dumbfounded statement, what next they invented cars! haha.
MrAllsgood 10 months ago
wow *-*
MegaAua 10 months ago
foundation....
chelroy101 10 months ago
It would be different if it were CLEAN - its very muddy (may just be the age of the tape but sounds muddy
MrProgramdirector 10 months ago
What? I thought Nick Cannon started it all. He's the best drummer right? ;-)
samg701 11 months ago
They sound like concert snares.
duhdude95 11 months ago
Rudimentary drumming is older than the US. Backsticking and other "flash" is great but does not show off your chops. As others have pointed out, this is not clean. They sacrificed precision for showmanship, great for the uneducated crowds but not much else. High tension snares, PHOOEY! Try a skin head tightened with ropes; they have as much bounce as a phone book. Look up the Old Gaurd Drum Line. These guys may have inspired black drum lines, but "we started it all" is a laughable claim
Falconfixr71 11 months ago
why is it so emphasized on the 'black' drumlines?
GregTheWhat 11 months ago 9
@GregTheWhat I think because drum lines are a European oriented, used in Military and Parades.
This is more entertainment oriented plus emphasis on ethnicity of the drummers, may be to signal that they are free from European rigid performance traditions.
Mishkafofer 10 months ago
@GregTheWhat Guess.
Kneufin 10 months ago
@GregTheWhat Because their traditional style of playing is linked to New Orleans style funeral bands. This style is more Corps style and disciplined. It requires extreme precision and team work to get this to work right. All the drummers must be on the same level of playing ability, in order to add the precision sticking and movements such as these. New Orleans style does not have this order of discipline in either playing or execution
bobbykhawk 7 months ago
By entertaining standards, this was probably a spectacle. By today's musical standards, this is dirty beyond belief.
ctsbrg 11 months ago 3
Amazing!!
Oomamii 11 months ago
And thus the southern *drum*lines were born... Musicality seems to lack down there for some reason... Might be the hip... maybe the hop.
Check out some DCI. That's the closest to actual musicianship any of these poor time wasters will get...
al928028 11 months ago
@al928028 Are you nuts? Southern drum corps are the best in the USA. I would stack Jax State (Jacksonville Alabama) against anything DCI has to offer. Don't forget drum corps were born from the Scots and their pipe and drum corps. And where did the Scots settle in the United States ? Oh yea that would be North Carolina and South Carolina and Georgia and the hills or Tennessee. So the whole drum corp tradition is from the south
bobbykhawk 7 months ago 2
@bobbykhawk what about the blue devils huh?
ajcf1995 5 months ago
@bobbykhawk wow...you must have never seen DCI. Not only is there music more entertaining and complex but visually there is no comparison to those of the Corps in DCI. I feel bad for you if you think a university could stack against the likes of the Blue Devils, Cavaliers, Cadets, Caralina Crown, Phantom Regiment, Santa Clara Vanguard, Blue Coats and MANY others. You are SERIOUSLY missing out.
CHSsnare94 5 months ago
Hey, if "you invented it" you invented it dirty..
DJGreyyson 11 months ago 12
eww 8th notes nasty
MegaDrummerboy2010 1 year ago
Some drumline if they have ditry notes and no tenors or bass!
119rf 1 year ago
And look what happened next, check out..........
Top Secret Drum Corps Edinburgh Military Tattoo 2009
EbutUoyFAN666 1 year ago
alot of drumlines these days can learn from this
rejuvenatedent 1 year ago
Old school drumline yeah!
mandas2121 1 year ago
OLD SCHOOL DRUMLINE YEAH!!!
mandas2121 1 year ago
Don't look down dammit
kingtaythe2 1 year ago
@kingtaythe2 ikr! THE DRUM IS NOT GOING ANY WHERE! lol
drum192192 11 months ago
the left hand 8th notes r really dirty
drum95freak 1 year ago
you killed it all in 1982
zack7265 1 year ago
did you mean you started the new definition of dirt in 1982?
gothdrummer7 1 year ago
sparkling wiggles.
DCIdrumdude 1 year ago
its amazing diffrent the drums sound compared to now
drummer12371 1 year ago 3
No, YOU'RE the dipshit. This was so fucking dirty it's pathetic. Hi-moms have been around since the dawn of time, and backstickings like those shown have been as well. mines434, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, you've apparently never heard of DCI, have you? This isn't High School shit, not college drumline. You tour for roughly three months, and each day, you commit 12-16 hours to your Corps, it's fucking hard as hell, and it consumes your life, your money, and time.
thedevilssaints 1 year ago
Great ass video, these guys changed drumlines for black and white schools. Yes, drumline the movie did all there moves. Until further proof of another video claiming to have started these drum moves, shut up and respect the Kings who started it all.
mines434 1 year ago
@mines434 Black Market Juggler is based on a song by Weather Report. I was done in DCI by the bridgemen ( taught and written by Dennis Delucia ) in 1982 and again in 1983. If you wanna see where these stick tricks came from lookup Oakland crusaders ( late 70's / taught by Tom Float ) and look up Anaheim Kingsmen 73 and 74. What is now " DCI " drumming and " HBCU " drumming all cam from 50's/60's drum corps ( before dci exhisted maybe VFW ?). Before that military 1800s us. 1300s the Swiss
soundquality 1 year ago
@soundquality
sometimes i debate whether to help encourage some people when they make a statement such as: We started it all", to know the truth about what they say and then point to the trillion examples such as drumlines with african american drummers that are ALOT cleaner and have chops, but sometimes is it better to leave them with their own understanding?
i choose most of the time to share knowledge and encourage others to explore DCI from rob carson, sco jo, to steve campbell,feff queen
jackhammer10101 11 months ago 2
@jackhammer10101 - if you expand the title to see the entire description, you will notice that it's stated that they started this type of dumming at the highschools and colleges that they attended (They were not saying that they were the first to start this). 3 of us werent even old enough to have a drivers permit and of course we got much better. The oldest went on to play snare for Bayonne Bridgmen..
ptrol06 11 months ago
@ptrol06
i want to say this nicely...Los Altos high school, Independence high school were some of the best lines out there...in 1982-1983 los altos got crushed by independence high school ....because more than half of Santa Clara Vanguard was in the high school line !!!
can you imagine HALF OF SCV in a high school line....what do you think these guys would look like if Independence high school or los altos high school were up on stage before them...
they would get BOOed off the stage !
jackhammer10101 11 months ago
I'm glad yall didn't finish it.
drummeriskewl334 1 year ago
the guy on the right needs to lower his heights
Nameless531 1 year ago
@Nameless531 may be comfortable for him to play don't tell these guys how to play they could rap you pure nature it's not about technique when your original.
MattLaffDrum 1 year ago
@toopster1 hey dumbass, he was talking about changing the drumline for BLACK PEOPLE. You think your right but in reality your the dipshit.
blankz23 1 year ago
jesus christ people.... really???? ummm comparing DCI to this style of drumming is ridiculous. like apples and oranges lol. yeah they aren't the greatest, but then again if you compare cavies 79 to cavies 2010 they really don't seem that impressive either... if you have an opinion why don't you check things out and do you own research on HBCU's (historically black colleges/universities)
mcjbdrums 1 year ago
I was in the Cavaliers back in 1979, and we used to battle the Vanguard back in the late 70s, So I don't know who these guys are saying they started it all.
They're sloppy as hell, they don't move together, and there sticking is not tight at all.
We were doing all that stuff in field competitions, drumline showoff spots in parade routes, football/basketball games all the time.
ptrol06 you need to do some research my friend.
toopster1 1 year ago 4
@toopster1 umm seeing how he was referring to a style of marching that includes the tricks and so on.. i seriously doubt that the 1979 director of the cavies was going around and teaching this stuff to various HBCU's so ummm how about we read and understand everything in the description, before talking and making ourselves look like an ignorant prick... remember apples and oranges
mcjbdrums 1 year ago
lol that cameraman sucks!!
helioszxc 1 year ago
My uncle was on the drumline wayyyyyy before this. You cant really say you started this
headshotfanatic 1 year ago
This is a joke right?
stalkinyamom103 1 year ago
woah these guys actually have recognizable names. just goes to prove that naming your child Bonquisha is not out of heritage.
hidemysocks 1 year ago
is it just me or is there dirt EVERYWARE.
druminallday 1 year ago
Sounds just as bad as the move Drumline.
ogebogi 1 year ago
repetitive
2Calam 1 year ago
NMSU's Pride Band was doing this back in the '70's, as had the DCI groups.
PivottingSaxMan 1 year ago
...this has been around for 60 years before this video was taken...it's called drum & bugle corps. DCI all the way man.
treridings 1 year ago
Your way off in saying that this guys in 84/85 were changing drum lines, I was doing this in 80/81.......
dubberdo 1 year ago
Just saying, even if I get bashed for liking the Cadets...but yeah...Cadets have been around for 75, this is going to be their 76th year...1935 man. I don't know if there are any groups before '35...but 35 is definitely before '82...you're not really close...at all.
Veltholath 1 year ago
They were sick!...esp at the end!
choicemc 1 year ago
o shut up about all this race shit
you guys are fucking amazing srsly
YOU GUYS ROCK
luckyboys0 1 year ago
Great to see this old skool video. This number although a little different than when performed by the Bridgemen drum and bugle corps, but if I am correct this tune was written by Dennis Delucia the drum caption head for the bayonne Bridgemen who won high drums in 1982 for this solo. I will still give credit to these young men for what they did back in the day. here's the link to the Bridgemen performing Black Market Juggler at the 1982 PASIC conference
thundersnare 1 year ago
Honestly, these guys are amazing. And I know drum lines are supposed to be in sync and things but I think (as a percussionist myself) that percussionists should show some style in their own unique way. These guys are kind of robotic. But they are FANTASTIC drummers.
DeadLTBow 1 year ago
wheres mr hurley
DefineGamingEnder 1 year ago
Nice and Im proud of yall, but you did NOT start the drumline. No.
Pontiac127 1 year ago
these guys are amazing. very very nice.
lilbit0866 1 year ago
according to researchers, these techniques were used my volcanic roks a few years before the dinosaurs existed. so they are not really original... who fkin cares if its not original, its awesome and thats what counts the most.
jbunit2 1 year ago
damn...
truexgunnerxchronica 1 year ago
what I hear is PLUH PLUH PLUH PLUH PLUHYJGFFHDFDGHHDH!! especially for the diddles, but hey they have only been playing for one year who could blame them.
PMEIndoorPercussion 1 year ago
Sorry, but this is not even close. Not for drumlines at all and I doubt for "black" drumlines.
Do some homework. Look up on YouTube: Alex Duthart. He's been doing this stuff since the '60's. Also, research John Bosworth. He was with the Air Force Pipe Band back in the early 1960's. They played at Kennedy's funeral. He has been doing this type of style for decades. I've seen him perform.
Duthart did this stuff on an album in the 1960's. So, these guys are hardly original.
taocpa 1 year ago
Actualy this is identical to Scotish drum style, and was invented probably before the birth of Jesus
LakeHighiii 1 year ago 119
@LakeHighiii Back then it was not called Scotland..nor were they called Irish..or British. Those 3 places were called the Celt tribes. Interconnected. Many things and lore and history. Look up queen Boudica.
DarkGallahad 1 year ago
@LakeHighiii so before the birth of christ the black drumline was born kinda strange dont u think
slmpie 1 year ago
@LakeHighiii Haha!!! thats funny.
Chaguarama75 11 months ago
@LakeHighiii Actually it was probably started before in Africa since that's where all humans come from.
Product1999 11 months ago
@LakeHighiii what was before the scotts. The very first people were africans so scottish drum style is identical to african drum style. get it right.
Product1999 11 months ago
@LakeHighiii maybe on that long ago but ya, is damn old
jnm2008 10 months ago
@LakeHighiii If you read the description you'd see these were the first BLACK drummers, who spured black drumlines. Read the fucking description smartass.
BestDressed1three 8 months ago
@BestDressed1three
Uh, no, no where near right. This style goes so far back no one knows who started it and to claim that black people didn't play like this till 82 is simply incorrect. Besides that, the stuff these guys are attempting to play (I mean that kindly) is much better than the trash in that idiotic movie Drumline. That movie did an extreme disservice to the black community and percussionists everywhere. And I was playing in quartets by eight grade that were cleaner than this.
79nutterbutter 5 months ago
@LakeHighiii whatever
koreyknockout 6 months ago
@LakeHighiii
Absolutely incorrect on every level. First, this drum line style is very different from the Highland style. If you were a snare drummer in a pipe band, you would know this. Second, the Highland snare style was born in military regiments, the first being the Royal Regiment of Foot in 1633. Also, the snare drum evolved from a medieval drum called the "tabor" which was hand held...played with one stick, over 1,000 years after Christ. Where the hell did you get your information?
skooterkid 5 months ago
@LakeHighiii hahahah ur the man
WakeAndBakeBeats 5 months ago
@LakeHighiii Modern Scottish style was invented by Alex Duthart in the late 70s and early 80s. The pipes have been around a while, but the drums never came to fruition til Duthart.
tgt305 5 months ago
@LakeHighiii And where did the Europeans get drums? AFRIKA!
Southern70805 5 months ago
Needs work. Drums sound like shit.
Element499 1 year ago
Like several others reporting here, I can confirm that this was not new in 1982. Our band had most of these moves down in our 1976-1977 season.
jsmithy67 1 year ago
BAHAHAA this is lame. that roto tom bit was a total fail. DCI owns this shit
TheJoe101 1 year ago
@TheJoe101 DCI basically owns...everything musical that's under its rank lol
animelover3400 1 year ago
@TheJoe101 stupid comment sir this was 1982 meaning it was good for its time you dummy.I marched DCI for 2 years in the late 90's it makes me feel good to see this style even attempted in 82.
Channel615 1 year ago
@TheJoe101 This was actually a DCI tune but you obviously are too young to know it. These guys helped put DCI where it is today so you should check your history before spewing B.S.
thundersnare 1 year ago
@TheJoe101 DCI wasnt even invented back then dumbshit. respect your heritage.
SPHSdrumline 1 year ago
@SPHSdrumline Actually DCI was invented before this.
Snizzyplayer 1 year ago
Now that is awesome historical footage...Right on man, right on!!!! Each and every culture or subculture has something inspirational to offer, just open your eyes and mind...
Wallace4461 1 year ago 28
fantastic!!!
k1a1t1h1y1 1 year ago 3
That was AWESOME!!
phatbirdy3689 1 year ago 2
1 year of playing together and thats the outcome... ouch.
THemSnarez 1 year ago
there snares sound like crap
lij2015 1 year ago
@lij2015 thats how they sounded back then. high tension snares were non existant
SPHSdrumline 1 year ago
See, people in 1982 can hold a camera straight and catch all the action.
eh2erik 1 year ago
wait a minute bruh. you axed my comment when I defended your description. You were the only black competitors and made a milestone in history. you axed me but left the racist and insulting comment, why are all the black people fast? cause all the slow ones are in jail. What is wrong with my people?
ddsharper 1 year ago
@ptrol06 there was nothing racist about your post. why do you have to apologize for telling the truth?
ddsharper 1 year ago
Talk about setting a precedent!
Mauhadeeb28 1 year ago
No individual can claim they started it all because it is impossisible to find exactly where anything started. I knew these guys back then and the truth is that they NEVER presented themselve as CREATING a NEW drumming technique. It was Bridgemen's Black Market Juggler that's all. What cant be shown in a short video is the work that was the work done later in college and DCI and the others who picked up where they left off.
dcraig1865 1 year ago
Give these guys props. All the debate among drummers still on the comments tells you something about their talent level. Sure the poster boast of starting it all inspires debate but if people weren't acknowledging these guys talent, they would just laugh it off completely.
dcraig1865 1 year ago
@futureprimitive Give them a break. They were self taught highshool kids doing a non waterred down Bridgmen BMJ. That's impressive.
dcraig1865 1 year ago
i heard sumone say boo b4 they even started playing and i dnt think that was rite... whoeva said boo SUCKS ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
acefly5000 1 year ago
this makes me laugh
ghostsound4 1 year ago
actually that was quite boring
zmyboo 1 year ago
im not understaning how they started it all wen there were drumlines a 100 years b4 them. i dnt get it.
zmyboo 1 year ago
black drumlines have been entertainment since the 50s and 60s
LajitizN 1 year ago
fantastic..other words escape me at the mo.
Avenmarc 1 year ago
i wonder what was the 1st place act...........
woodenclock2 1 year ago
compared to my schools drumline, that is nothin
KelleighTV 1 year ago
I think you should say, these 4 youngmen CHANGED. You should patent or copyright your creation. Every black person should. We are stolen from but treated like crap.
ddsharper 1 year ago
Beautifull..just fucking beautifull
jrantman 1 year ago
w0w
danellskie 1 year ago
these niggaz love to beat the hell out of those white drums
ddrnold 1 year ago
Outstanding!
klank67 1 year ago
For all you people nagging the ones saying "dirty" because you're too deaf to understand that it is dirty, stop. This vid is nothing special. African americans have been drumming with this technique since the civil war. As for the back sticking and various other things, thats not technique, thats a gimmick. They started nothing, DCI has been around since 1972, outdating these guys by a decade. I'm sorry if to some of you this sounds and looks amazing, but its not. plus its not even their piece.
spartey01 1 year ago
Do you really start it all in 1982?
P4bL0k0 1 year ago
how do you expect a 28-year-old footage to be clear and sound clean?
lhlee888 1 year ago
Clean as a virgin ass hole
MrJubes88 1 year ago
I kinda HARDLY fucking doubt these people started it, because in 1978 my Uncle got tired of doing routine stuff and had a secret percussion sectional with UT's percussion and in the middle of the game all boring he started playing the song and one by one the rest of the section started to join in. So you started it my ass.
Firedrumma123 1 year ago
I kept waiting for the part where the start a brawl with the other drumline.
SKAman635 1 year ago
We were playing Marty Hurley charts (about 30 years with the Phantom Regiment) that were at least at this level and playing them cleaner with a full drumline in the mid to late 70s at Pearl High School of Pearl MS. This group is neither excellent for its time(80s), its location(the South) or its level (high school)--even outside of DCI.
drumpiano47 1 year ago
The ignorance of the this whole video amazes me
timartin91 1 year ago
these guys are great!!!
soundseven 1 year ago
kinda dirty
zedleppelin031 1 year ago 37
Well then people improved on it
LOLNOOBCAKES 1 year ago
@zedleppelin031 kinda? hahaha
prankcallz444 1 year ago
@zedleppelin031 kinda would be an understatement.
007qtpie 1 year ago
Cold Steel!!!
DeboFall1995 1 year ago
AWESOME!!!!!!!!
richcecere 1 year ago