2Pac | Machiavelli's Astrological Chart is Identical!

[WERNERPAZ]

idk watu talkin about..........LIKE IF YOU LIKE SANDWICHES :D

[kpo489]

I was hoping the end said Venus in Uranus

[DaMostEnigmatic]

my bro's bday is four days a part from pac's, and they're born the same year, i know, crazy!! and he kind of looks like him

[11CosmicJoker11]

respect well spotted what a game, i sharede it

[guitaoist]

thanks thought it obvious too once i just randomly asked myself that question of astrological correspondences between em

[alibenhaal]

Cynical but extremely smart guy! Check out the animated moderne intrepretaion of chapter 7: The mind of a leader animation series Machiavelli.

OR if you want to go deeper into the subject visit the modern leadership series: The mind of a leader Machiavelli.

[emmacass]

I think Pac had Pisces moon, he just has those eyes; and I'd be surprised if he didn't have a prominent sign in water.

[suckmykickz]

@emmacass Your right it's moon in Pisces!

[jrsmooth90210]

u mean come bacc. i never left.!! die sLow ma' fucca. n the Real machiavelli never even faked his death. smh. if u read some common literature. than basing everything u know on youtube. u mightve known that .

[guitaoist]

i have more tupac books than u, if thats ur argument that my only knowledge is youtube my friend.

[jrsmooth90210]

@guitaoist the rose that grew from concrete lol. read a machiavelli book go to ur library smart azz.

[guitaoist]

Ok? I already have the prince mayne, and I never said he faked his death.

[GuardadoMusic]

@guitaoist your books must've been poorly written if they said that Machiavelli faked his death

[nathanstrange1401]

I would like to know tupac's ascendant, but no one knows what time he was born.

[jrsmooth90210]

We Aint Ready to have a Black President.!!! Changes" Wasnt Obamas Quote Changes.??!!?!? fucc'n smarties puzzle that one for me.

[gurresimme]

pac was inspired by this guy

[TheFormula22]

@guitaoist that dosnt really help me peace the puzzle together

[jrsmooth90210]

what tha fucc man, tha real machiavelli is dead now tho right, and 1 day, 500 years from now. somefuckhead will do the same thing as pac, it just dont never quit,

[guitaoist]

sorry were you trying to say something im posed to translate?

[NeRoNxZwie]

@jrsmooth90210 1 up two down stfu u don't know shit =] gtfo if u don't know anything about 2pac aka makaveli srs tho... pac was inspired by him retarddd maybe that somefuckhead is you =]

[jrsmooth90210]

@NeRoNxZwie the weakest shyt i've ever heard tupacs real name is calvin broadus' hahaha and if he was soo "inspired" by Machiavelli . why the fucc he go out like a puss'

[Mr360Dashing7210]

@jrsmooth90210 TUPAC AINT A PUSS BITCH

[NeRoNxZwie]

@jrsmooth90210 maybe not to get killed durr would u liked to be fucken chased down while the media and shitty fags with cameras surrounding u while u try and fucken hide...when u can do makaveli and fucken fake ur death to be free..maybe u need to hear more of those satanic bible songs so u can open ur shitty burned out brain...btw why respond if u hating on tupac retardedmuch?? =]

[jrsmooth90210]

@NeRoNxZwie fucc u' Look at a person like PRincess Diana that DIED BECAUSE of the media. before you say shyt like that. and speculate. if pacs alive good for him. but if hes alive why do u give a fucc if i say anything, its not like im talking shyt on a dead man right. fucc'n smarty's shut the fucc up and leave the 90's where theyre at.

[NeRoNxZwie]

@jrsmooth90210 LOL at u raging at me, grow some nerve n then come bak n talk for real kid =] if tupac did wat he did its his shit n why bring other ppl into this shit we r talking about tupaC xD

[UNIQUE1982]

Even if they were which I doubt, what difference does it make?

[guitaoist]

doubt what? this is fact: they share half of their astrological make-up. thats why pac was so influenced by him.

[UNIQUE1982]

@guitaoist I'm not an astrologist so I can't really comment I was just saying, not sure it makes any difference. In any case it was not due to the similarities in their charts but more the literature he produced. He was influenced by a lot of literature which was written by people who I'm sure did not have similar charts.

[guitaoist]

but he changed his name to the one he had the most similarities with..is all

[ethericplane]

The two charts do not look the same to me. WTF?

[guitaoist]

because nicolos ascendant is capricorn and we dont know the time of day pac was born so the house placement is unkown which makes it look off key.. but the outer and inner planets being in the same zodiacal degrees is the interesting part nonetheless.

[TheCavs1234]

where did u get the picture that is at 50 seonds i have been looking for it and i cant find it

[kabfik]

you forgot to mention his chinese zodiac sign is boar, which pretty much explains his personality to a letter T, it describes the way his personality was throughout his life to 110%, i don't believe so much in western astrology anyway, i think the chinese zodiac is FAR MORE ACCURATE IN DESCRIBING A PERSON'S PERSONALITY.

[pearlexperience]

maybe put it on a blog...or separate vid...either way i'd like to hear more

[colster4life]

How could Pac have had Moon trine Saturn, if moon is either late Pisces/early Aries and Saturn was in Taurus?

Anyway, Aries Asc (outspoken, upfront) with chart ruler Mars (fearless) in Aquarius (revolutionary) makes most sense to me. All the Gemini in 3rd would explain the natural communicator/lyricist that he was! Just wish we knew the exact birthtime!

[guitaoist]

the trine is almost equivalent to a sextile which is what you mention, oftentimes the energy isn't as easily flowing with the sextile but it is still more harmonic than that bloody square :)

don't take these house placements seriously tho... we don't know the time so the houses in this specific chart are irrelevant

[pearlexperience]

good topic, but probably better to talk about these things

[TonyStress360]

you aint make no sense. what was you tryin to say?. let me know.

[guitaoist]

Im saying since Tupac knew about Astrology (youtube my video "2Pac Astrology") then he would most def be interested in the fact that he shared half of his Astrological Reading with his Favorite historical figure.

Never heard that track "Break Em Off Somethin" btw, its good

[TonyStress360]

ok. i understand. and yea i got that track. i have a lot of pac originals, unreleased, instrumentals & accapella's. any song you want let me know and i'll send you some

[imtheone06]

geminis can be best friends or worst enemies. a good example is how biggie and pac used to be boys but then they turned enemies and started an entire coastal beef.

[MalikDon777]

I wish they were both still around. Hip-Hop would have been so different...probably better :-(

[kidfitted]

@imtheone06 No the illuminati started that shit

[EppicChick]

Good Observation

[guitaoist]

thnx

no one said it yet

[Lilart1981]

My only point is that he DEFINITELY had an Aries/Mars influence because he spoke about WAR, COWARDS, & DESTRUCTION!

I'm really convinced that his Asc was Aries because if his Moon was Pisces, it would put it in the 12 house which would put it in a very Dangerous place with the opposition to Pluto.

Besides Gemini. Uranus, Neptune and Aries stands out in his chart.

Overall, he was a Highly Intelligent brotha misunderstood.

Pac was this generation's Malcolm X (also Aries Moon)...

[guitaoist]

Now THAT is interesting! im glad youre very well versed in the Houses, im still just getting comfy with them, but yeah, youve got good evidence, i just hope Afeni gets back to Leila Steinberg for me to find his exact time....in time:)

[Lilart1981]

Knowing that the 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th are the strongest houses, it would also explain other factors.

1st house Moon represented by Aries would explain his militant, combative nature.

4th house Venus represents Poetry, smooth lyrics (no effort)!

7th house Uranus represents Originality, REBELLIOUSNESS (esp against police, judges, overall corrupt people) & Social Awareness.

10th house Neptune represents COMPASSION.

It explains why I'm not sure if his moon or asc is Aries/Mars...

[watermaninaquarius]

you may be right ,but i think he must have the venus opposition neptune( art ) and neptune conjunct jupiter in 4th & 10th house so he must have ascendant virgo or pisces

[Lilart1981]

waterman) That's pretty interesting...

I really hope that Guitoist is able to find his birth time and PLACE. I've been trying to figure out his birthchart eversince I first became addicted to Astrology.

I'm also a Gemini (Pac-6/16/71 and me-6/20/81) so it gave me bragging rights! Then I found out that Biggie was a Gemini too and I really got the big-head then (5/21/72)...

Hopefully we'll soon find out...

Good day to ya...

[Lilart1981]

I just re-did Pac's Birth chart (solar chart) & the only way I can see him having a Moon/Jupiter Trine is his moon being Pisces.

Gotdamn I wish I knew his time of birth. I don't know how I did it but I think his Rising sign (ascendant) is Aries especially if his moon is Pisces which would explain his strong compassionate side.

[thugonthaglock7]

killuminati?

he sais it in alot of songs and i like that song too.

[guitaoist]

i dunno if he was refering to himself or what he was against. gotta listen 2 the context of each time he said it; got stuff 2 do now i guess'; ha

[thugonthaglock7]

thats ma nigga tho rip m7

[thugonthaglock7]

If you want to know about who killed 2pac learn about the illuminati he is dead sorry people.

[thugonthaglock7]

2pac died with a message dude that you all need to understand.

KILLUMINATI !!!!!!!

[retroserval]

oh yea I remember that song

[thugonthaglock7]

Im an astrologist you are right they're charts have similiar traits but there houses are probably different you dont know what time 2pac was born either.

He probably liked his literature cuz there similiar in some planets.

But who knows Machiavelli could of been tupac shakur in his past life they both went in the same ways.

A life that's lived incomplete will be given another chance. He will return even though he hated the thought of reincarnation lol.

[guitaoist]

He hated the responsibility of this shitty world to have to come back and fix things all over again.

Reincarnation just showed his twisted sense of humour:)

but yeah he's dead 4 sure, o well he mighta liked obama even with the "black prezident" comment NaS uses in his own track as the chorus

[gethigh213]

R.I.P, he lives on in his poems to me

[watermaninaquarius]

thats not true thats aries 15 degree

[guitaoist]

Sorry?

[watermaninaquarius]

the ascendant is one of the most important part of any chart, and this is not the right ascendant of tupac you got that chart of astrotheme but the birthtime is unknown,i am looking for the right ascendant i think its virgo and gemini on the tenth house u understand?

[guitaoist]

Ah, of course, ur right NO ONE except his family knows his birth time. Sucks for us I guess. I hope his ascendant is also Gemini too, that would be overload! thnx for the comment

[thugonthaglock7]

The sun, ascendant, moon& mercury are your most important signs.

2pac had his mercury in Gemini explains y he is sick wit his lyrics communication is his gift.

His strongest planet is Mercury.

of course we dont know his ascendant u gota know the exact time he was born!

[guitaoist]

**:)** right on....

He also had his Mercury, Sun and Ceres conjuncting....

We should start a petition to see if Afeni could tell us his time of birth!

[aczech12]

Nice.

[5446Numba]

pretty cool man, keep up the good work :)

[UniversalBrother108]

thats very interesting