@hitachi088 It works with gasoline (better White gas), but smaller jet size is required. Otherwise there will be too big flame. Check video"White gas stove" in my YouTube account. For kerosene I suppose pump is needed to get initial pressure or maybe longer preheat as usually. But I would not sagest to tray kerosene with glass burner.
hey there i just made one of these after seeing your vid. took like 15 min. I hand bent the copper tubing w/o crimping it. used the 3/8" OD referigerator copper and a small jar for roasted garlic i believe. took me about an hour to get to working right. I used the metal wire from a bread tie and wrapped around a sccrewdriver to make a coil for a flame catcher, inserted a bit of kevlar fire wick and fastened it in the mid of the loop. works great now and burns on 91% isopropyl :) yay thanks
@lebammabel I recorded one, but it was on my phone and my computer won't play this file type. if I can figure it out I will deffinitely post it. Even my feiance was impressed by the outcome, and she wants me to make some more for hunting season. have you had any luck with 4 coil burners? or perhaps eliptical coils w/ multiple jet's to increase surface area? just a thought. thanks again for the great info.
@demnlordd666 I made two coil burner - video "Homemade double jet alcohol stove". It is little more powerful than single coil burner. But I like more smaller single coil burner which is enough powerful for me. If you want to make coil with multiple jets than jet's summary size should be not bigger than your single jet size. Otherwise you may lose jet flame. To increase surface area I would propose to use flame deflector like I have in video-Homemade copper alcohol stove (modified).
@superbungabunga I think it is possible. Just make comparatively smaller diameter tube like construction and preserve fuel from entering tubs when burner is upside down.
@lebammabel hey i was watching a scram jet video and this think kinda works like a scram jet in some ways, thought i let you know, its pretty kool, i think i'm try to make an alcohol based blow torch one day, as soon as i can gather up some motivation and resources
@itisblart I inserted wick until point where tube starts to curve. But I think that wick can be little shorter. You can check by experimenting which size of wick is best for your burner.
@Dri0m I haven't tried to bend 12mm pipe and can only guess. I think it won't be easy at least by hands unless you heat it up to make softer . Coil diameter will be comparatively bigger (seems to be too big). To tell truth 10 mm tube is more than enough. For small portable stove 8 mm or 6mm tube is OK.
@VerifyVeracity I know that filling the tubing with water then freezing it then bending it works fine, but filling tubes with fine sand for me is easier and better.
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@WantToSeeClips To tell truth I haaven't thought about temperature of flame. As far as I know it depends on fuel you use. Gasoline will burn with higher temperature, alcohol ( my favorite) slightly lower temperature but still high enough to boil water quite fast.
@varmintslayer311 Those holes I saw on similar burner on internet. Later I tried to make burner without them from 8 mm tube, and burner worked just fine. For burner made out of 6 mm tube those holes are needed (at least in my case and at least one hole) but I made it just beneath lid. Otherwise there was fuel fountain out of jet hole.
@lebammabel Oh boy . . . that would be scary in a tent! :-o Thank you for your information. I think I'm going to try my hand at making one of these. They look fun. I'm curious how a light weight one would perform in the cold weather. Thanks again. :-)
@ZebbMassiv. It is possible, I have even seen pictures on internet with more loops and two jets. Only thing I don't know will there be enough pressure of vapor to feed two jets. In worst case there will be two (not jet) flames. But if you make jets smaller then should be OK.
To tell truth I don't see reason for two jets unless, like somebody told me, you need to feed entire allied forces.
@guruji243. As far as I know %-tage of alcohol in non distilled alcohol (from fermentation alone) is very small. Therefore it cannot be used. I use 94 or 96 % alcohol. It works fine even in cold weather (video: Homemade copper alcohol stove winter test). I don't know lowest acceptable %-tage of alcohol for this burner, haven't tested yet. Depending on jet size I can use as fuel gasoline, gasoline and alcohol mixture (mixes when heated), acetone and maybe something else.
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Hello I am curious as to why you chose copper for the tube. Copper is very conductive, if you run the burner for a long time does the heat travel down into the jar?
@macro202. This good conductivity is actually needed to generate vapor pressure if you want to have jet flame. Other things is to prevent overheating which I experienced in hot weather (around 30 degree Celsius) with my copper stove. But only problem was slight increase of pressure which leads to stronger flame and bigger fuel consumption. By some cooling measures it is possible to fix this problem. In my last video I tried to show one way of fixing this problem.
@k2chris1983. Only thing what comes to my mind is that flame can be hotter not because of boiling alcohol, but because of complete vaporization of alcohol (more vapor) and bigger pressure of vapor. In short - more vapor per time > stronger flame > hotter flame. But those are only thoughts. they are not based on scientific measurements and calculations.
I haven't had any problems with this burner and with other I have made ( in my account). If you make burner out of glass jar, than you have to use it carefully in order do not brake it. Otherwise I don't see other risk, just make burner good quality. However those small jars are quite strong. And I use alcohol as fuel which I think is safer than gasoline. Copper burner is even safer.
I have made bigger glass jar burner out of 10 mm pipe (video "Homemade single jet alcohol stove") and I am quite sure that bigger copper burner also will work. What about pipe - i don't sea reason to make coil out of 15 mm pipe, 10 mm in my opinion is enough. I think that even 8 mm pipe will work OK.
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Hi I'm from Holland and we don't have J-B Weld dut only BISON Epoxy Metal
Two-part adhesive based on epoxy resins. Grey resin and beige hardener.
Properties * Temp. resistance: from - 60°C up to + 100°C. * Frost resistance: good. * Resistance to moisture: good. * Resistance to chemicals: very good. * Filling capacity: good.
I used to have a commercial version of this type of burner. It used PETROL. To turn it off you had a cork which fitted into the coil, effectively cutting off the supply. SCARY!!!
To turn off my stove I just blow it off. Cork I use to prevent remaining alcohol from leaking when stove falls down. With alcohol there is nothing scary.
I turn it off by blowing it off, which is quite easy. Only disadvantage is that you have to bring it close enough to blow. But I haven't experienced inconvenience because of that. In one of videos I am trying adjustable flame burner, there turning off is by closing jet.
I have tried it with alcohol, gasoline, acetone and mixtures of alcohol with gasoline (white gas) and acetone. Gasoline, acetone and mixtures require smaller jet size (diameter).
Burner with glass jar is cheap. I had to buy peace of copper tube ( around 2 $), pair of compression hardware (around 3-4 $), heat resistant silicone (around 4 $), peace of wick which I made from fiberglass thread. Prices in USA may be different, something maybe even cheaper.
Fuel depending from jet size: alcohol, white gas, acetone, mixture of them.
well I will be building one of these on the weekend so I can use it to heat my can of soup at lunch while I work in the bush logging. AWSOME. maby even bring my little 6 " iron skillet.
I have seen pictures with 2 and 3 coils (not in action). But my selves I don't see reason for two coils. Maybe two coil burner will be more powerful ( as my two separate coils burner), but fuel consumption I suppose also will be bigger. For my needs one coil stove is more than enough powerful.
I don't know much about physics of gases and everything can be differently, but as far as I see it, tubes are primary vaporization chambers and if they are not closed at least with fuel (in jar), initially it will take time to fill all empty space of jar (while preheating) and only then there will be enough pressure for "jet" flame. My stoves start jet flame quite fast. However I haven't tried short tubes and can't prove that with short tubes jet flame will start later.
The true story is that I saw in internet Pitorch burner (which is little different) and it had long tubes till almost bottom, leaving space for wick. And I made the same way. Somebody asked me about holes on tubes. They also were present on Pitorch burner and therefore initially I also made them. Later I made one 8mm burner without them and it worked fine. Looks like they are not needed. But my 6mm burner needs them, otherwise there is fountain of fuel. I hope I didn't make you bored.
Forgot to mention, tubes heat up and vaporize fuel in jar. Especially it is needed for glass jar, because glass it selves won't heat up fuel just from lid. If tubes will be short, I think there won't be enough high pressure of vapor when fuel comes to end.
Thanks this answered allot of what I was wondering ..I have one right now that I made with a short stems and maybe one or the other I get flame but no jet ....that or my hole is too big ..when I put a small jet nail in the hole it does start to jet and I have experimented with different wicks ...I guess I will have to make another one with longer stems ...Bummer I was hoping I can fix this one.
i was thinking ...is it importend that the tube must be made from copper¿ ...this is needed to heat the gas quicker or so ( sorry for the poor english)
thnxs for the help anyway
He, maybe it's an idea to put a X in a row for heating a stove .....mmmm ok ok I'am running to fast ....lol.(friend of me is making a knife....just for fun....)
I think that tubes can be from any metal as far as they are conducting heat. Somebody in his comment told that he used steel tube and it worked. Aluminum heat conducting abilities are higher but copper is good enough and available in any plumbing store (soft tubes).
I haven't measured time. I think video "Baking eggs and bacon with coil pipe stove" can give you some idea about fuel consumption. In this video I am baking bacon with eggs, boiling water and some fuel have left. Only thing this burner is working on mixture (alcohol and White gas) and has slightly smaller jet size then pure alcohol burner has.
I was wrong. Looks like I have made some measurements. In video's "Homemade coil pipe alcohol stove - mini" annotation I have written that approximate time of burning with 60 mm (2 oz) of alcohol around 30 minutes .
Sand is needed to fill inner space of tube in order to prevent tube from breaking. Sand has to be dry, better fine and impacted in tube. Tube has to be from soft copper.
Ahhh, so you do not even need real wick or carbon wick, Fiberglass wool would work , (well mabe not that), or cheapest wicks you can buy!
Excellent
And they never burn so you never replace them.
On the copper that goes into the fuel about 1/4 way from bottom you have two holes drilled. What is their porpose, do you need them? Or was that just the piece of pipe you had in the shop?
I inserted wick till coils horizontal center line where tube starts to curve. But probably it can be inserted not so high, let's say till level of lid. It shouldn't be inserted too high, otherwise on start up and on end you can have fountain from jet.
The way the flame passes between the two other pipes in the curl vaporizes the wicked-up fuel and makes it continue to burn right? And starting will work with simply heating the two top pipes like with a match?
Also, I get the wick part, but what are the inner vapor holes for? Are they nessicary? I assume the vapor holes need to be above the fuel correct? Does distance from fuel matter?
Yes, coil works as vapor generator heated up by preheat.
Taking in account that I am not inventor of this type of burner (I just made it my way), I can't say for sure about inner holes. In my burner I made them on lower part of tube when used 8mm and 10 mm tubes. Ones I tried to close inner holes on 8 mm burner, it worked too, but I didn't check difference.
I know for sure that inner holes are needed when you use 6 mm tube. I made them under lid. Without them fuel gets pushed out of jet.
Unfortunately place where I am making jet hole is covered with letter "e" of word "hole" starting from 58 second. Jet hole is on the inner side of coils bottom part. Hopefully my explanation is understandable.
peroxide does not work its not flammable, and i don't know what you mean by w/e. lots of liquids are flammable just read the warning label it will say warning flammable. but i recommend using alcohol because some flammable things are toxic when there burned. if your doing this out side than you shouldn't worry about the fumes so much. overall i would stick with 91% alcohol as a fuel!
Alcohol burner has 1mm or slightly bigger jet hole. I made it with sharpened screw because couldn't find long enough bore. This type of burner burns also white gas or even gasoline, but then very small jet hole is needed.
First of all it has to be soft copper tube. To bend my 10 mm tube I used 2,5 cm metal tube. When you are bending use maximum force in order to avoid appearance of spaces between both tubes (bendable and that you bend around). I don't know does it helps or not, but when bending additionally I am trying to pull each end of tube like trying to stretch them.
This is a well thought out and constructed stove you have. Although I see that it must weigh a bit more then I would want to carry with me on a trail. Have you thought about a way to bring down the weight by using another type of cannister?
I have made one smaller burner, which is made from 6 mm tube and 70 ml glass jar (video - Homemade coil pipe stove - mini). It is still heavier than beverage can burner but for my selves I don't consider it heavy. However I am trying to decrease wight and have one burner going to be made from small cafe can and 6 mm copper tube. Size of this burner will be similar to my glass jar mini burner.
Actually I think that size and weight depends in big on size and material off cans and jars available in shops, as far as I don't make them by my selves.
very well! i built a mini stove with a 4mm ironpipe, but mine has no vaporholes. the thermal conductiviry of iron is worse than copper, so i put a thin wire on the top of the wounded coil to light the alcohol. it works also well, the flame is about 8cm
I don't know exactly, but I have feeling that burner made from 10mm copper tube doesn't need those vapor holes. But my 6mm copper pipe burner requires them, otherwise fuel is jumping out from jet (I suppose the reason is what you menshened). And those holes I made closer to lid.
Do you use wick in your burner? And what kind of wire (what material) do you use for priming? Would be nice to see video with your burner.
Just for your info. You can fill the tube with water, and then freeze it. Then you can bend it before the ice melts. It works well, but be aware that the ice breaks into little pieces. So you only get one quick try to bend it.
If you haven't done it, you can try to ram (beetle) sand in tube to make sure that there are no empty spaces. I think that for coiling of 10 mm tube 20mm tube is too small. 25 mm maybe, but try to use slightly biger one, maybe 30 mm. I don't know does it works or not, but when I am banding tubes, I try to pull them around biger tube and at the same time pulling each end like trying to stretch them. Very complicated for my English, but hopefully you will understand.
hi there im haveing trouble with my copper pipeing im trying to coil it around another pipe but it keeps kinking and not going right...................................
Hi, I have to ask some questions to understand where is problem: - have you filled tube with dry sand or something similar, - what is size of tube you want to coil, - what diameter of another tube you use to coil burner's tube?
this stove looks like it would stay cool to the touch, better that some other stoves that you have to let cool before touching. Do you blow on it to put it out?
I can only compare with beverage can stove. And yes coil pipe burner with glass jar is cooler to touch. But it depends also from fuel, when burning alcohol jar gets hotter, when burning acetone jar is just warm. I think it depends on vaporization temperature.
When there is no flame holder or wind screen, it is easy to blow it off and in most cases I blow on it to put it out. In some cases flame blows off it selves when removing flame holder. You can see it on some of my videos.
I made only one jet hole, in size around 1mm for alcohol burner. If you want to use fuel which vaporizes better then alcohol, for example white gas (gasoline) or as I used alcohol and white gas mixture, then jet hole should be smaller.
I think that you can make more than one jet, but then I suppose overal size of those jets shouldn't be biger than single jet's size. If there is too big jet hole, won't be jet flame.
grate vedio i learnd somthing new thanks for the efort im a fisherman and i nead such gadget i can make tha size i want that is sutable 4 me. meny thanks
One additional thing: Try to use not very big in hight jar(and maybe not too big at all for 8mm tube). I have feeling that this size of tube doesn't generate enough vapor for high an big jar. But it also depends on quality of alcohol. Size of jet should be not bigger then 1mm. Good luck. Please give response when finished.
I don't know how it is for hikers, but I used it in my vocation this summer, when traveled by car to Ukraine, for preparing tea, coffee(more than one liter) and other. All kit with pot stand(exempt bottle of fuel) I had in box of size 15cm*11cm*11cm.
I don't want to change your mind, but not all what is good for you is good for others and of course in opposite.
Maybe you have another interest but thing is that: 1) I have both - pepsi stoves and this type, 2) I got bored with pepsi stoves and wanted something other, 3)it isn't complicated to make this stove at all if you like to do something yourself, 4) this particular stove is twice smaller some commercially made ones, 5) to judge is it practical or not, you should try it, otherwise it is only "air startling".
I've not seen this design before. Very interesting! It looks like the most efficient home made stove I've seen so far. A bit bulky for a serious hiker but it would be great for home when the power and gas go out from disasters.
Glass is fragile it's true, but you can use metal jar. I already found metal one and sometime I'll try to use it. But I haven't had any problems with glass jar. It is quite heat resistant, you can poor in it boiling water and it is ok. Burner's jar doesn't reach so high temperature in burning process. As you can sea I hold it in hand. And if the pressure is too high it will simply blow off the fire(read written text).
BTW on market you can find this type factory- made glass alcohol burners. I've noticed that this small one even doesn't have enough heat to vaporise alcohol in comparatively cold weather (approx. +5 +10 degrees Celsius).
Lebammabel, can I ask how big the size of the fuel jet holes are? Are they around 1mm diameter? I have to ask this sorry as the hole size is quite impartant right?
I agree that jet's size is important. Jet's size i my stove is aprox. 1mm (I made it by thumb tack). But I think that it depends also on quality of alcohol, there for I am trying to make adjustable jet size like on video "Adjustable flame coil pipe stove" in order to be able to use different quality fuel including white gas.
someone can tell me if this would work with car gas and kerosene?
hitachi088 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@hitachi088 It works with gasoline (better White gas), but smaller jet size is required. Otherwise there will be too big flame. Check video"White gas stove" in my YouTube account. For kerosene I suppose pump is needed to get initial pressure or maybe longer preheat as usually. But I would not sagest to tray kerosene with glass burner.
lebammabel 1 month ago
hey there i just made one of these after seeing your vid. took like 15 min. I hand bent the copper tubing w/o crimping it. used the 3/8" OD referigerator copper and a small jar for roasted garlic i believe. took me about an hour to get to working right. I used the metal wire from a bread tie and wrapped around a sccrewdriver to make a coil for a flame catcher, inserted a bit of kevlar fire wick and fastened it in the mid of the loop. works great now and burns on 91% isopropyl :) yay thanks
demnlordd666 1 month ago
@demnlordd666 Thanks for your interest. If possible make video. If you don't mind I would like to see your burner.
lebammabel 1 month ago
@lebammabel I recorded one, but it was on my phone and my computer won't play this file type. if I can figure it out I will deffinitely post it. Even my feiance was impressed by the outcome, and she wants me to make some more for hunting season. have you had any luck with 4 coil burners? or perhaps eliptical coils w/ multiple jet's to increase surface area? just a thought. thanks again for the great info.
demnlordd666 1 month ago
@demnlordd666 I made two coil burner - video "Homemade double jet alcohol stove". It is little more powerful than single coil burner. But I like more smaller single coil burner which is enough powerful for me. If you want to make coil with multiple jets than jet's summary size should be not bigger than your single jet size. Otherwise you may lose jet flame. To increase surface area I would propose to use flame deflector like I have in video-Homemade copper alcohol stove (modified).
lebammabel 1 month ago
looks like it could be made into an alc blow torch, you think so? maybe for like glass would be cool
superbungabunga 1 month ago
@superbungabunga I think it is possible. Just make comparatively smaller diameter tube like construction and preserve fuel from entering tubs when burner is upside down.
lebammabel 1 month ago
@lebammabel hey i was watching a scram jet video and this think kinda works like a scram jet in some ways, thought i let you know, its pretty kool, i think i'm try to make an alcohol based blow torch one day, as soon as i can gather up some motivation and resources
superbungabunga 1 month ago
@lebammabel then i'm use it for making art with metal and glass
superbungabunga 1 month ago
Great job.
Jellyf0x 1 month ago
What Is the fuel?
spinaway 2 months ago
@spinaway Alcohol.
lebammabel 2 months ago
About how far do you have to insert the wick into the pipe?
itisblart 2 months ago
@itisblart I inserted wick until point where tube starts to curve. But I think that wick can be little shorter. You can check by experimenting which size of wick is best for your burner.
lebammabel 2 months ago
for bending, fill tube with water and soap, then freeze it
Dri0m 2 months ago
@Dri0m With fine sand I don't need to wait. Just fill and start bending.
lebammabel 2 months ago
@lebammabel i found some pipe 12mm thick, can i use it?
Dri0m 2 months ago
@Dri0m I haven't tried to bend 12mm pipe and can only guess. I think it won't be easy at least by hands unless you heat it up to make softer . Coil diameter will be comparatively bigger (seems to be too big). To tell truth 10 mm tube is more than enough. For small portable stove 8 mm or 6mm tube is OK.
lebammabel 2 months ago
Try filling the tubing with water then freezing it then try bending it. Let me know who it gos if you want.
VerifyVeracity 3 months ago
@VerifyVeracity I know that filling the tubing with water then freezing it then bending it works fine, but filling tubes with fine sand for me is easier and better.
lebammabel 3 months ago
me ha encantado tu sistema intentare realizarlo en cuanto tenga algo de tiempo, te paso el video de mi primera cocina con lata de coca colo, un saludo y genial video de nuevo!!!
vanhaker 3 months ago
trippy beat
3709280 4 months ago
ME GUSTA MUCHO SU VIDEO, GRACIAS POR SU EXPLICACION. HARE UN APARATO IGUAL A ESTE. SALUDOS.
MIRONCITO1959 5 months ago
Тут русские есть или украинцы?
Chare71 6 months ago
@Chare71 Net, a chto?
lebammabel 6 months ago
@Chare71 Jesli cto nuzhno, sprashivai.
lebammabel 6 months ago
What kind of temperature would you expect to get from the flame in this setup?
WantToSeeClips 7 months ago
@WantToSeeClips To tell truth I haaven't thought about temperature of flame. As far as I know it depends on fuel you use. Gasoline will burn with higher temperature, alcohol ( my favorite) slightly lower temperature but still high enough to boil water quite fast.
lebammabel 7 months ago
thanks for the straightforward slideshow. very informative.
pabbananna 7 months ago
Hello :-) I was wondering something about the vapor holes. Are they for excess pressure in the fuel reservoir to bleed off?
varmintslayer311 8 months ago in playlist FORNELLO AD ALCOHOL 3
@varmintslayer311 Those holes I saw on similar burner on internet. Later I tried to make burner without them from 8 mm tube, and burner worked just fine. For burner made out of 6 mm tube those holes are needed (at least in my case and at least one hole) but I made it just beneath lid. Otherwise there was fuel fountain out of jet hole.
lebammabel 8 months ago
@lebammabel Oh boy . . . that would be scary in a tent! :-o Thank you for your information. I think I'm going to try my hand at making one of these. They look fun. I'm curious how a light weight one would perform in the cold weather. Thanks again. :-)
varmintslayer311 8 months ago
Forgive me. I did not mean to offend you!!!
I did favorite you video first so I could view it again in the future. Best wishes form Kansas City.
Thanks for sharing! ;0)
b1aflatoxin 9 months ago
peace
jmg1957 9 months ago
damn havent seen any one fell tubes with sand and bend them for a LONNG time ^^
duetodie 10 months ago
could you make another few loops and make another jet hole?
ZebbMassiv 1 year ago
@ZebbMassiv. It is possible, I have even seen pictures on internet with more loops and two jets. Only thing I don't know will there be enough pressure of vapor to feed two jets. In worst case there will be two (not jet) flames. But if you make jets smaller then should be OK.
To tell truth I don't see reason for two jets unless, like somebody told me, you need to feed entire allied forces.
lebammabel 1 year ago
Can non distilled alcohol be used as fuel?
Thanksmfor the vid
guruji243 1 year ago
@guruji243. As far as I know %-tage of alcohol in non distilled alcohol (from fermentation alone) is very small. Therefore it cannot be used. I use 94 or 96 % alcohol. It works fine even in cold weather (video: Homemade copper alcohol stove winter test). I don't know lowest acceptable %-tage of alcohol for this burner, haven't tested yet. Depending on jet size I can use as fuel gasoline, gasoline and alcohol mixture (mixes when heated), acetone and maybe something else.
lebammabel 1 year ago
Can you write please the name of details that you put on a tube
MrGroundy 1 year ago
@MrGroundy
Posmotrite video v (rutube.ru ) pod takimze nikom - lebammabel. Tam jestj video SAMODELNAJA SPIRTOVAJA GORELKA . ppocti toze samoje tolko na russkom (v vtoroi polovine video). Trubki k kriske krepil kompresionimi sojedenenijami dla mednih trubok kotorije kupil v santehniceskom magazine (dla 10mm trubki). Dla 8 mm i 6 mm trubok v specialnom kompresornom magazine. v dobavok ispolzoval avto germetik zarostoikij. Nadejus mozno budet razobratj.
lebammabel 1 year ago
Hello I am curious as to why you chose copper for the tube. Copper is very conductive, if you run the burner for a long time does the heat travel down into the jar?
macro202 1 year ago
@macro202. This good conductivity is actually needed to generate vapor pressure if you want to have jet flame. Other things is to prevent overheating which I experienced in hot weather (around 30 degree Celsius) with my copper stove. But only problem was slight increase of pressure which leads to stronger flame and bigger fuel consumption. By some cooling measures it is possible to fix this problem. In my last video I tried to show one way of fixing this problem.
lebammabel 1 year ago
@macro202. Another reason is that copper pipe is simply available in shops,
It is soft enough to be bent and at the same time strong enough to withstand heat generated by stove.
lebammabel 1 year ago
@macro202 If your alcohol is heated or boils it will make the flame hotter. From what I was told....
k2chris1983 1 year ago
@k2chris1983. Only thing what comes to my mind is that flame can be hotter not because of boiling alcohol, but because of complete vaporization of alcohol (more vapor) and bigger pressure of vapor. In short - more vapor per time > stronger flame > hotter flame. But those are only thoughts. they are not based on scientific measurements and calculations.
lebammabel 1 year ago
is this same bro i thought it will explode how was that??? risk
jovanport 1 year ago
@jovanport
I haven't had any problems with this burner and with other I have made ( in my account). If you make burner out of glass jar, than you have to use it carefully in order do not brake it. Otherwise I don't see other risk, just make burner good quality. However those small jars are quite strong. And I use alcohol as fuel which I think is safer than gasoline. Copper burner is even safer.
lebammabel 1 year ago
could you make a big one out of 15mm pipe or would it not work?
Dale44443 1 year ago
@Dale44443
I have made bigger glass jar burner out of 10 mm pipe (video "Homemade single jet alcohol stove") and I am quite sure that bigger copper burner also will work. What about pipe - i don't sea reason to make coil out of 15 mm pipe, 10 mm in my opinion is enough. I think that even 8 mm pipe will work OK.
lebammabel 1 year ago
I noticed how you made the hole at the bottom for the flame, how long will the copper tubing last before it starts melting?
martialartist34 1 year ago
@martialartist34
Copper is quite soft, but flame temperature of this burner is not enough high to melt it.
lebammabel 1 year ago
great video thanks i subscribed
starkilla21 1 year ago
Thank you so much... from thailand.
YUTHANA9394 1 year ago
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XDSlavaXD 1 year ago
Hi I'm from Holland and we don't have J-B Weld dut only BISON Epoxy Metal
Two-part adhesive based on epoxy resins. Grey resin and beige hardener.
Properties * Temp. resistance: from - 60°C up to + 100°C. * Frost resistance: good. * Resistance to moisture: good. * Resistance to chemicals: very good. * Filling capacity: good.
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Can you use 12mm copper tube
XDSlavaXD 1 year ago
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Can you use 12mm copper tube
XDSlavaXD 1 year ago
I used to have a commercial version of this type of burner. It used PETROL. To turn it off you had a cork which fitted into the coil, effectively cutting off the supply. SCARY!!!
r1273m 1 year ago
@r1273m
To turn off my stove I just blow it off. Cork I use to prevent remaining alcohol from leaking when stove falls down. With alcohol there is nothing scary.
lebammabel 1 year ago
Thanks I had seen other peoples builds but your video is the first how to. Great Idea to use sand to bend the pipe too.
Cheers
teb0atoz 1 year ago
Thanks a lot man love the vid keep up the good work :)
pernellandrew 1 year ago
@pernellandrew
Thanks, I am happy to have comment from Australia.
lebammabel 1 year ago
how do you turn it off? have you tried it with gasoline?
humanentropy 2 years ago
I turn it off by blowing it off, which is quite easy. Only disadvantage is that you have to bring it close enough to blow. But I haven't experienced inconvenience because of that. In one of videos I am trying adjustable flame burner, there turning off is by closing jet.
I have tried it with alcohol, gasoline, acetone and mixtures of alcohol with gasoline (white gas) and acetone. Gasoline, acetone and mixtures require smaller jet size (diameter).
lebammabel 2 years ago
thanks
humanentropy 2 years ago
Two questions: 1) how much do you think this project
cost?
2) what type of fuel do you need to use?
Sylvia441 2 years ago
Burner with glass jar is cheap. I had to buy peace of copper tube ( around 2 $), pair of compression hardware (around 3-4 $), heat resistant silicone (around 4 $), peace of wick which I made from fiberglass thread. Prices in USA may be different, something maybe even cheaper.
Fuel depending from jet size: alcohol, white gas, acetone, mixture of them.
lebammabel 2 years ago
Gee do you not know what An alcohol stove is?????
Bassman018 2 years ago
Clarify if you know.
lebammabel 2 years ago
An alcohol stove runs off of Denatured Alcohol, or HEET in the Yellow Bottle
Bassman018 2 years ago
In my country alcohol bottles look differently.
lebammabel 2 years ago
Well HEET is a product that alsways comes in the Yellow Bottle, And I said that so so one got the HEET in the Red Bottle which is isoproply.
Bassman018 2 years ago
well I will be building one of these on the weekend so I can use it to heat my can of soup at lunch while I work in the bush logging. AWSOME. maby even bring my little 6 " iron skillet.
brenthoser99 2 years ago
so i see that every coil stove only has 1 turn in the copperpipe is there a reason for this can you put 2 turns ?
cory8791 2 years ago
I have seen pictures with 2 and 3 coils (not in action). But my selves I don't see reason for two coils. Maybe two coil burner will be more powerful ( as my two separate coils burner), but fuel consumption I suppose also will be bigger. For my needs one coil stove is more than enough powerful.
lebammabel 2 years ago
Love it !...but do the coils have to touch the alcohol is there a specific lenght that needs to be in the jar ? thanks again great vid 5/5
brutallindigo 2 years ago
I don't know much about physics of gases and everything can be differently, but as far as I see it, tubes are primary vaporization chambers and if they are not closed at least with fuel (in jar), initially it will take time to fill all empty space of jar (while preheating) and only then there will be enough pressure for "jet" flame. My stoves start jet flame quite fast. However I haven't tried short tubes and can't prove that with short tubes jet flame will start later.
lebammabel 2 years ago
The true story is that I saw in internet Pitorch burner (which is little different) and it had long tubes till almost bottom, leaving space for wick. And I made the same way. Somebody asked me about holes on tubes. They also were present on Pitorch burner and therefore initially I also made them. Later I made one 8mm burner without them and it worked fine. Looks like they are not needed. But my 6mm burner needs them, otherwise there is fountain of fuel. I hope I didn't make you bored.
lebammabel 2 years ago
Forgot to mention, tubes heat up and vaporize fuel in jar. Especially it is needed for glass jar, because glass it selves won't heat up fuel just from lid. If tubes will be short, I think there won't be enough high pressure of vapor when fuel comes to end.
lebammabel 2 years ago
Thanks this answered allot of what I was wondering ..I have one right now that I made with a short stems and maybe one or the other I get flame but no jet ....that or my hole is too big ..when I put a small jet nail in the hole it does start to jet and I have experimented with different wicks ...I guess I will have to make another one with longer stems ...Bummer I was hoping I can fix this one.
brutallindigo 2 years ago
i was thinking ...is it importend that the tube must be made from copper¿ ...this is needed to heat the gas quicker or so ( sorry for the poor english)
thnxs for the help anyway
He, maybe it's an idea to put a X in a row for heating a stove .....mmmm ok ok I'am running to fast ....lol.(friend of me is making a knife....just for fun....)
Technolab 2 years ago
I think that tubes can be from any metal as far as they are conducting heat. Somebody in his comment told that he used steel tube and it worked. Aluminum heat conducting abilities are higher but copper is good enough and available in any plumbing store (soft tubes).
lebammabel 2 years ago
Very neat like the way you did this.
Thnxs for sharing.
Technolab 2 years ago
Thanks, I was trying to do my best.
lebammabel 2 years ago
nice way to set fire to your house if you dont take care though
MarkC2010 2 years ago
There are many other ways to set fire if you are not careful. This fire is not more dangerous then candle fire.
lebammabel 2 years ago
It looks like about only 1/3 of it's total volume is filled with liquid. How long does it burn?
giuseppi1955 2 years ago
I haven't measured time. I think video "Baking eggs and bacon with coil pipe stove" can give you some idea about fuel consumption. In this video I am baking bacon with eggs, boiling water and some fuel have left. Only thing this burner is working on mixture (alcohol and White gas) and has slightly smaller jet size then pure alcohol burner has.
lebammabel 2 years ago
I was wrong. Looks like I have made some measurements. In video's "Homemade coil pipe alcohol stove - mini" annotation I have written that approximate time of burning with 60 mm (2 oz) of alcohol around 30 minutes .
lebammabel 2 years ago
hallo,
i had a few meters of the pipe from school and i tryd it few minutes ago but i had something like why doesnt it work ???
becouse when i tried to end it was going good for a little while but every time "knick" so i was pissed off.
so thats whare the sand is for?
does it work good?
scuffieduffie 2 years ago
Sand is needed to fill inner space of tube in order to prevent tube from breaking. Sand has to be dry, better fine and impacted in tube. Tube has to be from soft copper.
It works fine for me.
lebammabel 2 years ago
Ahhh, so you do not even need real wick or carbon wick, Fiberglass wool would work , (well mabe not that), or cheapest wicks you can buy!
Excellent
And they never burn so you never replace them.
On the copper that goes into the fuel about 1/4 way from bottom you have two holes drilled. What is their porpose, do you need them? Or was that just the piece of pipe you had in the shop?
tnx
swazooli
Swazooli 2 years ago
does the wick go all the way up and end t end in the coil or does it only go up an inch on each side
tnz
swzooli
Swazooli 2 years ago
I inserted wick till coils horizontal center line where tube starts to curve. But probably it can be inserted not so high, let's say till level of lid. It shouldn't be inserted too high, otherwise on start up and on end you can have fountain from jet.
lebammabel 2 years ago
Questions,
The way the flame passes between the two other pipes in the curl vaporizes the wicked-up fuel and makes it continue to burn right? And starting will work with simply heating the two top pipes like with a match?
Also, I get the wick part, but what are the inner vapor holes for? Are they nessicary? I assume the vapor holes need to be above the fuel correct? Does distance from fuel matter?
WoWJakfrost 2 years ago
Yes, coil works as vapor generator heated up by preheat.
Taking in account that I am not inventor of this type of burner (I just made it my way), I can't say for sure about inner holes. In my burner I made them on lower part of tube when used 8mm and 10 mm tubes. Ones I tried to close inner holes on 8 mm burner, it worked too, but I didn't check difference.
I know for sure that inner holes are needed when you use 6 mm tube. I made them under lid. Without them fuel gets pushed out of jet.
lebammabel 2 years ago
great vid thanks
mrmomo0472 2 years ago
where did you make the hole???
mhvdm1995 2 years ago
Unfortunately place where I am making jet hole is covered with letter "e" of word "hole" starting from 58 second. Jet hole is on the inner side of coils bottom part. Hopefully my explanation is understandable.
lebammabel 2 years ago
whats the fuel???????????
cambigfoot88 2 years ago
Depending of jet size alcohol, white gas (or gasoline) or mixture of both of them can be used.
lebammabel 2 years ago
almost anything flammable gasoline alcohol denatured alcohol
MacsCanfly 2 years ago
Does Perxoide or w/e work?
NowayLaughs 2 years ago
peroxide does not work its not flammable, and i don't know what you mean by w/e. lots of liquids are flammable just read the warning label it will say warning flammable. but i recommend using alcohol because some flammable things are toxic when there burned. if your doing this out side than you shouldn't worry about the fumes so much. overall i would stick with 91% alcohol as a fuel!
MacsCanfly 2 years ago
oops :(
I meant rubbing alcohol.
But thanks!
I learned a lot about the fuels from a video by Tinny.
I guess that HEAT product burns well.
Thanks again!
-Dwin
NowayLaughs 2 years ago
What size hole did you drill for the jet?
Petezaguy 2 years ago
Alcohol burner has 1mm or slightly bigger jet hole. I made it with sharpened screw because couldn't find long enough bore. This type of burner burns also white gas or even gasoline, but then very small jet hole is needed.
lebammabel 2 years ago
Had a go at one of these today but cannot for the life of me get the copper pipe to bend without kinking it.
Its 10mm copper pipe and I've tried twice filling it with dry sand and packing it as tight as I can but both times it kinked.
Got any ideas?
Also what diameter of pipe should I be bending it round?
Help!!!
Gumbob1967 2 years ago
First of all it has to be soft copper tube. To bend my 10 mm tube I used 2,5 cm metal tube. When you are bending use maximum force in order to avoid appearance of spaces between both tubes (bendable and that you bend around). I don't know does it helps or not, but when bending additionally I am trying to pull each end of tube like trying to stretch them.
lebammabel 2 years ago
5/5 wuts the music?
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
Thanks, music is Creedance - Clearwater Revival (album) - Green River (song), I suppose.
lebammabel 2 years ago
tnx verry much im making a vid of my tealight stove but im downloading the song D: takes hours but i have an question How farr must the wig go in ?
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
Wick goes approximately till point where tube starts to curve.
lebammabel 2 years ago
K ty!
SthealthRaider 2 years ago
Ive got to try that as ive got most of all them bits lying around ☺ 5/5
cornflakes002 2 years ago
what type of wick is the best to use?
CamperDale 2 years ago
I have used cotton and fiberglass wicks, both work ok. Fiberglass wick seems to be more resistant to heat.
lebammabel 2 years ago
This is a well thought out and constructed stove you have. Although I see that it must weigh a bit more then I would want to carry with me on a trail. Have you thought about a way to bring down the weight by using another type of cannister?
conradstesttable 2 years ago
I have made one smaller burner, which is made from 6 mm tube and 70 ml glass jar (video - Homemade coil pipe stove - mini). It is still heavier than beverage can burner but for my selves I don't consider it heavy. However I am trying to decrease wight and have one burner going to be made from small cafe can and 6 mm copper tube. Size of this burner will be similar to my glass jar mini burner.
lebammabel 2 years ago
Actually I think that size and weight depends in big on size and material off cans and jars available in shops, as far as I don't make them by my selves.
lebammabel 2 years ago
one of the best "how to" stove videos I have seen. Thank you for posting
WorldStove 2 years ago
very well! i built a mini stove with a 4mm ironpipe, but mine has no vaporholes. the thermal conductiviry of iron is worse than copper, so i put a thin wire on the top of the wounded coil to light the alcohol. it works also well, the flame is about 8cm
knallgasidiot 3 years ago
I don't know exactly, but I have feeling that burner made from 10mm copper tube doesn't need those vapor holes. But my 6mm copper pipe burner requires them, otherwise fuel is jumping out from jet (I suppose the reason is what you menshened). And those holes I made closer to lid.
Do you use wick in your burner? And what kind of wire (what material) do you use for priming? Would be nice to see video with your burner.
Bye.
lebammabel 3 years ago
how long the wick must be? should i not make it reach the vent hole?
vanellisarion 3 years ago
Wick goes approximately till point where tube starts to curve (till coil's horizontal centerline).
lebammabel 3 years ago
Using soft copper like the refrigeration copper easy to bend.
I thought you're going to make induction spoon .
Good job
Thanx 4 sharing.
SlickManChoux 3 years ago
Just for your info. You can fill the tube with water, and then freeze it. Then you can bend it before the ice melts. It works well, but be aware that the ice breaks into little pieces. So you only get one quick try to bend it.
huckuba 3 years ago
Woohoo! CCR!
mrmikerotch 3 years ago
ive even try heating up my pipe aswell
daveyboy5182 3 years ago
yes i have filled it with dry sand,
the sized of pipe i want to coil is 10mm and the the pipe im trying to coil it around is about 20-25mm
daveyboy5182 3 years ago
If you haven't done it, you can try to ram (beetle) sand in tube to make sure that there are no empty spaces. I think that for coiling of 10 mm tube 20mm tube is too small. 25 mm maybe, but try to use slightly biger one, maybe 30 mm. I don't know does it works or not, but when I am banding tubes, I try to pull them around biger tube and at the same time pulling each end like trying to stretch them. Very complicated for my English, but hopefully you will understand.
lebammabel 3 years ago
your english is good i do understand.......
thank you for your tips and info, im hopeing it will help with my problem i will post my finished stove on here if i manage to sort it
and again thank you for the info..........
daveyboy5182 3 years ago
how long the wick must be? should i not make it reach the vent hole? i mean the holes for vapor
vanellisarion 3 years ago
hi there im haveing trouble with my copper pipeing im trying to coil it around another pipe but it keeps kinking and not going right...................................
any info how to sort this out would be great
daveyboy5182 3 years ago
Hi, I have to ask some questions to understand where is problem: - have you filled tube with dry sand or something similar, - what is size of tube you want to coil, - what diameter of another tube you use to coil burner's tube?
lebammabel 3 years ago
this stove looks like it would stay cool to the touch, better that some other stoves that you have to let cool before touching. Do you blow on it to put it out?
Perktube1 3 years ago
I can only compare with beverage can stove. And yes coil pipe burner with glass jar is cooler to touch. But it depends also from fuel, when burning alcohol jar gets hotter, when burning acetone jar is just warm. I think it depends on vaporization temperature.
When there is no flame holder or wind screen, it is easy to blow it off and in most cases I blow on it to put it out. In some cases flame blows off it selves when removing flame holder. You can see it on some of my videos.
lebammabel 3 years ago
haha, i love this song! i hear it on san andreas
BryanBeatsYouAll 3 years ago
Question: How far down you push the wick into the tubing?
alaincoli 3 years ago
Approximately till coil's horizontal centerline.
lebammabel 3 years ago
bravo~
how to many hole to coil?
1 or 2pcs ?
from korea
chlqnwkd 3 years ago
Thanks for interest.
I made only one jet hole, in size around 1mm for alcohol burner. If you want to use fuel which vaporizes better then alcohol, for example white gas (gasoline) or as I used alcohol and white gas mixture, then jet hole should be smaller.
lebammabel 3 years ago
I think that you can make more than one jet, but then I suppose overal size of those jets shouldn't be biger than single jet's size. If there is too big jet hole, won't be jet flame.
Good luck.
lebammabel 3 years ago
grate vedio i learnd somthing new thanks for the efort im a fisherman and i nead such gadget i can make tha size i want that is sutable 4 me. meny thanks
amjadjj 3 years ago
Marvelous !
I'll built one to verify.
Bravo from France.
micsolaire 3 years ago
Thanks for interest.
One additional thing: Try to use not very big in hight jar(and maybe not too big at all for 8mm tube). I have feeling that this size of tube doesn't generate enough vapor for high an big jar. But it also depends on quality of alcohol. Size of jet should be not bigger then 1mm. Good luck. Please give response when finished.
lebammabel 3 years ago
no offense but this seems to big and bulky so i think it is realy immpracticle and complicated to make unlike the pop(pepsi)can stove .......:\
timaaaa34 3 years ago
I don't know how it is for hikers, but I used it in my vocation this summer, when traveled by car to Ukraine, for preparing tea, coffee(more than one liter) and other. All kit with pot stand(exempt bottle of fuel) I had in box of size 15cm*11cm*11cm.
I don't want to change your mind, but not all what is good for you is good for others and of course in opposite.
lebammabel 3 years ago
Maybe you have another interest but thing is that: 1) I have both - pepsi stoves and this type, 2) I got bored with pepsi stoves and wanted something other, 3)it isn't complicated to make this stove at all if you like to do something yourself, 4) this particular stove is twice smaller some commercially made ones, 5) to judge is it practical or not, you should try it, otherwise it is only "air startling".
lebammabel 3 years ago
I will try to make mini one.
lebammabel 3 years ago
I've not seen this design before. Very interesting! It looks like the most efficient home made stove I've seen so far. A bit bulky for a serious hiker but it would be great for home when the power and gas go out from disasters.
strokenskwert 3 years ago
excellent! i think i will make one of those when i get bored.
GTFORDMAN 3 years ago
NICE
cm15579 3 years ago
nice! whats the name of the song ??
coshyno 3 years ago
I suppose song is "Green River", album "Clearwater Revival" and band CREEDANCE.
lebammabel 3 years ago
Does the wick extend through the entire pipe, or just up each leg to where the coil starts?
Thanks
yoyodynepropulsions 3 years ago
Just up each leg to where the coil starts. Otherwise it'll be difficult to adjust wick size.
lebammabel 3 years ago
And bending of tube also could be difficult with wick inside.
lebammabel 3 years ago
I would be very concerned about the glass shattering from heat or pressure or both.
HikerDave3 3 years ago
Glass is fragile it's true, but you can use metal jar. I already found metal one and sometime I'll try to use it. But I haven't had any problems with glass jar. It is quite heat resistant, you can poor in it boiling water and it is ok. Burner's jar doesn't reach so high temperature in burning process. As you can sea I hold it in hand. And if the pressure is too high it will simply blow off the fire(read written text).
lebammabel 3 years ago
BTW on market you can find this type factory- made glass alcohol burners. I've noticed that this small one even doesn't have enough heat to vaporise alcohol in comparatively cold weather (approx. +5 +10 degrees Celsius).
lebammabel 3 years ago
Lebammabel, can I ask how big the size of the fuel jet holes are? Are they around 1mm diameter? I have to ask this sorry as the hole size is quite impartant right?
malayrojak 3 years ago
I agree that jet's size is important. Jet's size i my stove is aprox. 1mm (I made it by thumb tack). But I think that it depends also on quality of alcohol, there for I am trying to make adjustable jet size like on video "Adjustable flame coil pipe stove" in order to be able to use different quality fuel including white gas.
lebammabel 3 years ago
thankyou, this gives me some ideas to mess with in my spare time. I will share them if the experiment works out.
NCHiker1970 3 years ago
NICE!!!!!!!
xsplosive1975 3 years ago
Bravo. Bel progetto e ottima costruzione. Mi piace.
Good. Beautiful plan and optimal construction. I like it.
benniblueyes 3 years ago