Die ganzen RAF - Mitglieder, insbesondere widerliche Mörder wie Boog, Klar etc. verdienen auch jetzt noch immer die Todesstrafe. Dass solche Gestalten frei rumlaufen dürfen bzw. wie Boog durch die Medien tinglen ist einfach nur krank
One of the most and best activist groups ever ! I mean if they do not want Carnation Revolution we are there as RAF members ! I hate many stories about IRA ! And stupid ppl and concern about duty to the land in any way ! Our only duty is to defend a freedom a truth freedom mostly from governments and that by any cause needed !
Capitalism sucks but state socialism doesn't work.
A planned economy might work at a village level, but a whole country? Then you waste resources on propaganda saying everything's OK, and more resources on repressing the folk that don't believe the propaganda.
When the state organises things that are better organised by communities or that don't need organising then people get angry. Angry people whose voices don't count don't work hard, so the economic plans become even more unrealistic.
@UnterGrundSport Informier dich erstmal aus anderen Quellen wie der BILD bevor du hier groß das Maul aufreißt. Das traurige ist, das die Männer und Frauen der RAF vor allem für Deppen (wie dich) gekämpft haben, die zu blöde sind genau das zu kapieren. Fang an selbst zu denekn und halt bis dahin das Maul....
schade, dass es hier nur Bilder gibt - man muß sie im Original hören was sie selber gesagt haben ! Immer nur die Kommentare der saudummen Moderatoren von ARD&Co die nichts kapieren bzw. nichts kapieren dürfen.
thanks for the video. people will always be enthralled by these guys. you can analyse it all you want, it's epic - and heartbreaking, as all great heroic epics are.
imagining it's about politics and logic is to fail to see the astonishing dynamics at work. i wish those who get so upset about them entering the history books would reflect on their own response.
@shelleyite Thanks. Can you imagine doing it, going the whole way, crossing the line to the point of no return? Even in doing that im sure there's a new freedom that's discovered. RAF crossed the line
CNZ. spot on. there are some dazzling facets to this saga, and dark and depressing ones too. my heart just breaks for ulrike. they really paid a price for that 'euphoric self realisation' , that leap. i thank them all for their lives, their attempt to stand up at that time.
anyway CNZ, cheers, and please, ignore the spluttering angry posts. just be glad you made them angry - they are punishing themselves in their confusion.
In May 2009, it was revealed that Kurras, known for shooting Ohnesorg, was an agent of the East German secret service, the Stasi, as well as a long-time member of the East German communist party, the Socialist Unity Party of Germany. He had approached the East German communist regime in 1955, offering his services and expressing the wish to defect. He was convinced to remain in West Berlin and was recruited as an agent for the Stasi. He became a member of the East German communist party in 1964.
Mein Bruder Markus Bott ist vom BND fünfeinhalb Jahre lang gefoltert und dann am 11 Juli 09 ermordet worden. Die BRD hat die Todesstrafe abgeschafft. Die Geheimdienste morden ohne Gerichtsurteil. Wie in der NAZI Zeit. Ich habe heute keinen Zweifel mehr daran, daß auch die RAF Mitglieder gezielt ermordet wurden. Die Aufnahmen aus Stammheim lassen die Gehirnwäsche und Steuerung erkennen. Dazu Filme auf meinem Kanal.
Die Mitglieder der RAF hatten vielleicht nicht nur gute Ideale, aber wenigstens hatten sie den Mut für sie zu kämpfen anstatt nur davon zu reden. Man sieht ja wohin es führt wenn man der politischen und wirtschaftlichen Elite freien Lauf lässt...
@CommunistNewZealand Thanks for uploading this movie. I don t know what makes me puke more. Either these atrocious and cowardous crimes committed by the RAF or the dumb, unthoughtful, stupid ideological indoctrination, mental blockade and lies of the RAF members. If you really think about what the RAF members say, their stupidity and ideological blindness really hurts. It makes me puke that they even think that they did things for a "good, just" cause. Yuck!
@arkadyka if you cant still see what chaos capitalism and imperialism has caused and still cause you may have mental problems, blindness and deafness or just very low IQ or your father may be very rich. Communism forever ! yeah gulag for you :D
ulrike meinhof und co-arme deutsche kriegskinder die ALLES glaubten was die alliierten verbrecher ihnen in die gehirne äzten! während ihre eltern noch für die freiheit gekämpft hatten kämpften sie schon für juda-traurig traurig!!
and stop citing that crap about 100, million dead etc.
See RedNick's vids on Stalin and the Gulag Myth.
No, it's not revisionistic, it;s based upon Soviet documents released under the Gorbachev administration in the early 1990s. These documents refute western statistics
He quotes absolutely no source, so all he does is throwing around random numbers, playing things down and then blaming other nations for other events.
you ones who criticize RAF, but could you do it, would you have the balls?
You speak like Communists must be perfect in their conduct in their bahaviour. But who can ever fully achieve this? You sit back making these petty little comments in attempt to discredit RAF etc.
But would you starve yourself to death like Holger Meins? Or place yourself in the firing line like Petra Schelm (shot in the eye & killed)?
Ulrike Meinhof non riesco a smettere di pensarti spero solo che esista il paradiso dove potremo incontrarci ed io avro la possibilita di corteggiarti e se' saro' fortunato amarti per sempre riposa in pace mio infinito amore
But he even defended members of the RAF at one stage. Should he be in this vid for what he contributed to RAF or not? Because, it is undeniable, that, at that time, he did indeed assist them
the father of my grandmother, a communist also, was sent to a labour camp.
You seem to admire the bolshewist party, althought you probably know, that lenin was the innovator of such nice places, where you could easily beg out, without being found guilty of somethig.
I want You stand here looking in my face and explain to me, what kind of freedom the modern fans of totalitarian stat promice to me.
lol, this comment ,defending Horst Mahler, proves how close fascists and communists are in the end. they are interchangeable, totalitarian ideologies.
they are not close they are opposites, fascist nazi scum are the eternal enemy of all Communists
The manifesto mahler penned whilst in prison was rejected by the RAF.
If anything is to be equated with fascism it's this pig system of capitalism and it's depraved form of distorted social Darwinism, no doubt you libertarians enjoy it\s sadistic edge though ay?
i am a member of a human right organisation and i do it cause i beleave in equal right for every one, i beleave in humanity.
and it doesn't any difference to me, either an american president violents rights of people or a sadist calling himself communist, like lenin or stalin. Both is bad enough. And eben if i sypathize with socialist ideas and negative every kind of nationalism, I will never accept a murderer on the top of a state.
I would like, however, to observe, that Guantanomo and such kind of prisons originate out of a war, in which the USA face - even if the gevernment is responsible to it - a frightening ennemy.
@Skullchaser08 no one needs you to cite your academic bullshit in support of your twisted fascist beliefs. There are countless articles written about numerous topics, of course contradictions will arise. Have you got a bourgeois education, you need to attend a compulsory Communist re-education camp in Vietnam
@Skullchaser08 Da die meisten sich ja nicht um die Geschichte, wie sie passiert ist, interessieren, oder sonst wie sich in dem Thema belesen möchten, hier wenige wichtige Dokumentarfilme über das, wofür die RAF stand und wofür sich Terroristen wie Klar eingesetzt haben (Diese Filme sind Dokumentarfilme und beruhen auf Fakten, die historisch belegbar sind):
Spinner, nur weil man HISTORISCHE FAKTEN; ARGUMENTE und LOGIK gegen deinen beschissenen Kommunismus hervorbringt, ist das schon lange keine Propaganda. Propaganda ist ein Instrumentarium totalitärer kommunistischer Staaten.
@Skullchaser08 No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
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@shanghaikidx All generalisations are false so is this one. As Politics is a generalisation of its own all Politics are false. Both the left and the right. And in the middle is an endless discussion of agreements no-one gets better too.
Can you name a country were Politics do work actually? Beyond election day that is.
Dipshit, yes this politics is called liberalism and capitalism. The government does not solve any problems. The govrnment is the problem.
"All generalisations are false so is this one."
Generally, I would say that you are right that not all generalizations are correct but there is NO example of communism that did NOT end in a complete disaster. That people have to live a dictatorship and in poverty in communist is not only clear in practice, but foremost in theory.
It's agree-able. I would say turn it arround and you have the same outcome. There is NO example of Capitalism that did NOT end in a complete disaster: Economy Crisis. That people have to live a dictatorship by banks and industrials , stockholders and in poverty of the free market. (haves and don't haves) and slavery to work and buy . Capitalism is not only clear in practice, but foremost in theory. The quest for bigger better more...till it reach its limits and you got a empty balloon.
"NO example of Capitalism that did NOT end in a complete disaster:"
Are you kidding??? USA; Western Europe, Japan, now China that has undergone CAPITALISTIC reforms and has grown its GDP 49 times since 1980!! Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, Chile, ALL countries that applied CAPITALISTIC measures ie. free market, private property, competition, individual rights and freedom.
Really, what kind of drugs are you taking. Bcs all u said is against the FACTS and EMPIRICS and THEORY!
@shanghaikidx My Drugs : Ferdinand Lassalle. Not Marx, Engels or Lenin. I believe in the socialism but only national. Education, Healthcare (medicines, hospitals, doctors), Railways, Mailmarket, Energy, Electricity, Water, Basic (Agricultural) Food , Heavy Industry or other High Value, Important Industry must be in propety of the State. Other industry can be private property. Workers must earn fair prices: no currency with cheap countries or enemy take overs in the important industry.
@viowave Quite honestly, I did not fully understand what you said, because I cant fully understand your English. Deutsch can be preferred, if you want.
Ich sehe aber, dass du ein ernsthaftes Argument führst, jenseits der üblichen linken ignoranten und dummen Propaganda.
Ich weiss jetzt nicht, was du also Sozialismus bezeichnest. Du scheinst der Auffassung zu sein, dass es darum geht, die Wirtschaft staatlich zu organisieren. Das ist nur teilweise richtig.
Hinsichtlich Privatisierung oder nicht, kann ich nur sagen, dass man dies vollkommen ideologie-frei diskutieren muss. Im Endeffet kommt es auf den Nutzen und Nachteile ALLER beteiligten Gruppen an, dh. MItarbeiter aber auch Kunden, Anteilshaber, Lieferanten, Umwelt, etc. Obwohl ich ein Vertrerter des freien Marktes bin stimme ich auch nicht jeder Privatisierung zu.
Ich verstehe, dass du bei der Post arbeitest und von einer Kündigung betroffen bist/bzw. dir eine droht. Ja, das ist ein Problem und ich stehe zum Grundsatz, dass man von seiner Arbeit LEBEN können soll. Tarfiverträge werden seit der Privatisierung der Post ausgehebelt, was ich auch nicht richtig finde.
Die Privatisierung der Post als Ganzes möchte ich jedoch dennoch verteidigen, da sie die Post in einen modernen Dienstleistungsbetrieb umgewandelt hat.
@viowave DIe Frage, ob Privatisierung oder nicht, kann man jedoch nicht an den Grenzen eines Landes beschränkt sehen. Man muss sich - ob man will oder nicht - auf kurze oder lange Sicht mit der Tatsache auseionander setzen, dass andere Länder - eben wie Polen - ein anderes Lohngefüge haben. Alles andere wäre schädlich ignorant.
@shanghaikidx Your Capitalism is that a dutch pig is imported into Italy, stay there the last three months of his miserable life. Slaughtered and is now called an italian pig and if in the region of Parma. It can be called parma ham, which we import at a much higher price. It is that we sell our Dutch cows and import Argentine meat, because it is cheaper. Due Privatising the Electricity market the cost aren't cheaper - and the mailfunction of the net is much higher.
Das HErumgeschiebe von Gütern wie Schweinen von Holland nach Italien hin und zurück finde ich auch absurd. Letztendlich entscheidet jedoch der informierte Kunde darüber, ob diese Absurdität unterstützenswert ist oder nicht. Da muss man sich selber an die Nase fassen. Eine Salami oder Wurst könnte man ja bspw. auch beim Bauern in der Region kaufen.
@shanghaikidx Besides as a full-time mailman who gets loan on a monthbase: 37 hours á week against an hour-pay. I am too expensive since the concurrency arrived who pay their employes a price per letter or pakket.
So our company -thanks to the free market - need to reorganize again and again to become cheaper. With the result that I am unemployed in about 2 years. I am about to be replaced by Polish people, school children or housewives who accept to low wage. But so are the supermarketworkers
@viowave "Besides as a full-time mailman who gets loan on a monthbase: 37 hours á week against an hour-pay"
Das habe ich nicht verstanden. Was meinst du damit? Das ein standardmäßiger Tarifverträge mit festen Arbeitszeiten in einen flexiblen Arbeitsvertrag mit variabler Stundenanzahl umgewandelt wird?
Dipshit, communism as you might phantasize has perhaps not been created yet, because this is IMPOSSIBLE. Yet this does not matter, since the COMMUNIST SHITHOLES mankind had to witness so far are the EXACT, DIRECT and LOGIC consequences of putting communist goals into practice.
If you think differently, feel free to explain how communism can be realised in FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY and how it shall lead to PROSPERITY.
Hahahahahahahahah ... yeah, we have seen that how "possible" communism is. It ALWAYS led, leads and will lead to DICTATORSHIPS, DEATH, MURDER, HUNGER, POVERTY and ecological DISASTER.
"Before communism is socialist level."
Ah, really, so it took 80 years of SOCIALIST NIGHTMARES To find out that communism is not possible?=?
I knew you wouldnt be able to answer how communism can be realised in FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY and how it shall lead to PROSPERITY
@songunactivist Dictatorship of proletariat. Death, murder, hunger, poverty and ecological disaster that all is product of west imperialism in third world. Communism is possible, but there is class struggle in socialism. Battle between revolution and reaction. Communism is realised in socialism what is absolute freedom and democracy. This is prosperity for masses of workers and peasants who are today exploited in third world by imperialism.
Dipshit, only that it was NOT possible ALWAYS when communists tried it out, in 100 % of the cases. Neither do THEORETICAL ARGUMENTS exist that would foresee that communism is possible in a FREE system that woudl create PROSPERITY.
@shanghaikidx Your comment is bullshit because you call Fascism communism. Fascism is indeed a rotten shithole but Communism is the opposite of a government. How then do you criticize communism, only in ignorance.
@shanghaikidx You are blaming communism and as I understand you are even unaware of basic concepts about it. So just tell me what capitalism has given to world? Most of the countries today are ruled by capitalistic ideology. Except Europe, USA and a few others most of them are in poverty and war. We are living in a world, which rich gets richer and poor gets poorer. many civilians die in wars coused by capitalists for benefıts of mega companies in every continent.
Infantile utopian ideology that only the socially ackward is attracted to=losers.
Every where that has been implemented has resulted in economic and social, cultural decay and disaster.
mirarostodo 5 days ago
Die ganzen RAF - Mitglieder, insbesondere widerliche Mörder wie Boog, Klar etc. verdienen auch jetzt noch immer die Todesstrafe. Dass solche Gestalten frei rumlaufen dürfen bzw. wie Boog durch die Medien tinglen ist einfach nur krank
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nietzscheprime 4 months ago
Es wird Zeit für die 4. Generation!...
APLEalex 4 months ago
le RAF non moriranno mai ULRIKE ti adorerò per sempre.Tu sei stata la sola
vittima innocente
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One of the most and best activist groups ever ! I mean if they do not want Carnation Revolution we are there as RAF members ! I hate many stories about IRA ! And stupid ppl and concern about duty to the land in any way ! Our only duty is to defend a freedom a truth freedom mostly from governments and that by any cause needed !
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AcousticJazzMaster 5 months ago
What we need in this world right now is a new Genghis Khan to bring back law and order!
888snuffy 6 months ago
VIVA RAF!!!
kifinass 7 months ago
Capitalism sucks but state socialism doesn't work.
A planned economy might work at a village level, but a whole country? Then you waste resources on propaganda saying everything's OK, and more resources on repressing the folk that don't believe the propaganda.
When the state organises things that are better organised by communities or that don't need organising then people get angry. Angry people whose voices don't count don't work hard, so the economic plans become even more unrealistic.
groinhat 7 months ago
The free market zealots have been weakened in Iraq and Afghanistan and more is comming.
They will pay for our stolen lifes and hopes.
Ulrike will be avenged.
Mouhyiddine777 9 months ago 2
my conclusion is that Ulrike Meihof is much more sexy than Ousama Ben Laden
plocplocgloupgloup 9 months ago
Please remove the comment von "Kyritz1". Thank you.
RotesSprachrohr 11 months ago
@RotesSprachrohr und du gleich mit dabei dreckiger roterbrauner nazikommunist du
dobrovoljac1971 10 months ago
Dieser parasitäre linke Dreck gehört erschossen
Kyritz1 11 months ago
Scheiß RAF!
BadAddicts07 1 year ago
No offense man, but it´s "die RAF".
Anyways, love your RAF vids...cheers man....
ohrblut666 1 year ago
scheiss raf scheiss mörder!!!!!! solche menschen wünsch ich den tot
UnterGrundSport 1 year ago
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@UnterGrundSport Informier dich erstmal aus anderen Quellen wie der BILD bevor du hier groß das Maul aufreißt. Das traurige ist, das die Männer und Frauen der RAF vor allem für Deppen (wie dich) gekämpft haben, die zu blöde sind genau das zu kapieren. Fang an selbst zu denekn und halt bis dahin das Maul....
ohrblut666 1 year ago
schade, dass es hier nur Bilder gibt - man muß sie im Original hören was sie selber gesagt haben ! Immer nur die Kommentare der saudummen Moderatoren von ARD&Co die nichts kapieren bzw. nichts kapieren dürfen.
edgar0001 1 year ago
Rechtsanwälte e estranho tambem.. Outro video legal nada a ver com isso mas olhem. Mire watch?v=PY-MVyEdWyI depois do youtube.com .
Prometo que vejo o de vcs tambem.. rsrsrss ahh e ainda dou desconto quando vcs vierem no Brazil/Paraguai ou nas cataratas do Iguaçu. Valew
alexbigbox 1 year ago
Einfach nur DANKE!!!!!!!!!
Moritz4618 1 year ago
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avrupagonuldas 1 year ago
Das Leben ist Hässlich ... die welt auch ... vielleicht könnte ich noch etwas daraus machen ...
NoemmemaarPietje 1 year ago
thanks for the video. people will always be enthralled by these guys. you can analyse it all you want, it's epic - and heartbreaking, as all great heroic epics are.
imagining it's about politics and logic is to fail to see the astonishing dynamics at work. i wish those who get so upset about them entering the history books would reflect on their own response.
shelleyite 1 year ago
@shelleyite Thanks. Can you imagine doing it, going the whole way, crossing the line to the point of no return? Even in doing that im sure there's a new freedom that's discovered. RAF crossed the line
CommunistNewZealand 1 year ago
CNZ. spot on. there are some dazzling facets to this saga, and dark and depressing ones too. my heart just breaks for ulrike. they really paid a price for that 'euphoric self realisation' , that leap. i thank them all for their lives, their attempt to stand up at that time.
anyway CNZ, cheers, and please, ignore the spluttering angry posts. just be glad you made them angry - they are punishing themselves in their confusion.
shelleyite 1 year ago
@shelleyite it's probably better to make a stand like they did than spent an entire life time living like a subjugated dog
CommunistNewZealand 1 year ago 6
In May 2009, it was revealed that Kurras, known for shooting Ohnesorg, was an agent of the East German secret service, the Stasi, as well as a long-time member of the East German communist party, the Socialist Unity Party of Germany. He had approached the East German communist regime in 1955, offering his services and expressing the wish to defect. He was convinced to remain in West Berlin and was recruited as an agent for the Stasi. He became a member of the East German communist party in 1964.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@CommunistNewZealand that´s so true. One life, one chance, no compromises.
Junkyjoe999no 10 months ago
@CommunistNewZealand Yeah, killing innocent people sounds like a good way to feel better. You are a moron.
Hackmannhasstaudi 4 months ago 2
Vergessen Sie nicht, Ingeborg Barz!
badnycpoet 1 year ago
HASTA LA VICTORIA SIEMPRE!!!!
RAF FOREVER!
greetings from Poland, on this moment - from uk
caribre1979 1 year ago
monkeys
rheinboden 1 year ago
..taken.used.wasted.nwo
5baphomet5 1 year ago
unser gedanke sei bei den die für den kommunismus ihr leben hingaben
Ady1848 1 year ago
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5baphomet5 1 year ago
@5baphomet5 are you meaning yourself?
CommunistNewZealand 1 year ago
@5baphomet5 ..???-i have no idea what ya talkin abt buddy.
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Mein Bruder Markus Bott ist vom BND fünfeinhalb Jahre lang gefoltert und dann am 11 Juli 09 ermordet worden. Die BRD hat die Todesstrafe abgeschafft. Die Geheimdienste morden ohne Gerichtsurteil. Wie in der NAZI Zeit. Ich habe heute keinen Zweifel mehr daran, daß auch die RAF Mitglieder gezielt ermordet wurden. Die Aufnahmen aus Stammheim lassen die Gehirnwäsche und Steuerung erkennen. Dazu Filme auf meinem Kanal.
Martin Bott
wwwtotalitaerde 1 year ago
würde sowas zurück kommen ?? was ist euere meinung
AlevitenHerz62 1 year ago
Wird Zeit das die RAF wieder zurück kommt,oder zumindest etwas was genauso ist,sonst beginnt in den Straßen von Deutschland das Totale Chaos.....
Vursik 1 year ago
Die Mitglieder der RAF hatten vielleicht nicht nur gute Ideale, aber wenigstens hatten sie den Mut für sie zu kämpfen anstatt nur davon zu reden. Man sieht ja wohin es führt wenn man der politischen und wirtschaftlichen Elite freien Lauf lässt...
omgitsolithegeek 1 year ago
Who singes this song ?
Merlo177 1 year ago
One for all and all for one
Merlo177 1 year ago
wir waren
wir sind
wir werden
Veteran379 1 year ago
If in 2010 you are still a Communist, you have a mental problem and need serious help.
arkadyka 1 year ago
@arkadyka it is mentally deranged assholes like you that should be locked up in a gulag, hmm hmm
CommunistNewZealand 1 year ago
Nope, he's totally right.
Communists need some serious bandaids for their minds.
Skullchaser08 1 year ago
@CommunistNewZealand Thanks for uploading this movie. I don t know what makes me puke more. Either these atrocious and cowardous crimes committed by the RAF or the dumb, unthoughtful, stupid ideological indoctrination, mental blockade and lies of the RAF members. If you really think about what the RAF members say, their stupidity and ideological blindness really hurts. It makes me puke that they even think that they did things for a "good, just" cause. Yuck!
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@arkadyka if you cant still see what chaos capitalism and imperialism has caused and still cause you may have mental problems, blindness and deafness or just very low IQ or your father may be very rich. Communism forever ! yeah gulag for you :D
ClaudeFrollon 1 year ago
Terrorists, nothing but rich Terrorists, who thought they knew... when rich parents kids did'nt know anything!!!
BurndownBlue 1 year ago
Tell the German governement,to do the same with the right wings als they do with the left,that's another story,oder?
gourcuff31 1 year ago
You mean funding them with millions of tax payers money?
The results would be interesting to put it mildly.
Skullchaser08 1 year ago
ulrike meinhof und co-arme deutsche kriegskinder die ALLES glaubten was die alliierten verbrecher ihnen in die gehirne äzten! während ihre eltern noch für die freiheit gekämpft hatten kämpften sie schon für juda-traurig traurig!!
nachtschattenuser 1 year ago
Danke!
kobaeins 2 years ago
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fuck raf
TheManurules 2 years ago
YES THE TIME TI FIGHT IS NOW
all against the war !!!
padn999 2 years ago
great video; thanks for posting!
ignore the liberal cowards;
the time to fight is NOW!
markbradleyf1 2 years ago 4
Thanks Comrade!
Just wish Horst mahler was not in it. At the time ComNZ had only begun to stdy RAF. However, Mahler, did defend members of the RAF and Kommune 1
CommunistNewZealand 2 years ago
and stop citing that crap about 100, million dead etc.
See RedNick's vids on Stalin and the Gulag Myth.
No, it's not revisionistic, it;s based upon Soviet documents released under the Gorbachev administration in the early 1990s. These documents refute western statistics
CommunistNewZealand 2 years ago
I just watched them.
They're laughable.
He quotes absolutely no source, so all he does is throwing around random numbers, playing things down and then blaming other nations for other events.
Is that supposed to impress me?
If so, fission mailed.
Skullchaser08 1 year ago
you ones who criticize RAF, but could you do it, would you have the balls?
You speak like Communists must be perfect in their conduct in their bahaviour. But who can ever fully achieve this? You sit back making these petty little comments in attempt to discredit RAF etc.
But would you starve yourself to death like Holger Meins? Or place yourself in the firing line like Petra Schelm (shot in the eye & killed)?
You are way out of your league
CommunistNewZealand 2 years ago
They were heroes.
The greatest hero of modern german history
Whizkik 2 years ago 2
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!! XD
Skullchaser08 1 year ago
BHA sEITE MIR EGAL HELDEN MU? MANN EHREN
suppenk123 2 years ago
Ekelhafte Kommunisten morden und rauben und es gibt wirklich Leute die das toll finden? Ich glaub mich knutscht'n Elch?
Verena Becker war übrigens IM des Verfassungsschutzes. Benno Ohnesorg wurde vom Stast Mitarbeiter Karl-Heinz Kurras umgebracht.
Lest euch mal das Schwarzbuch Kommunismus durch.
Es ist so traurig eine bessere Welt in einer roten Terror-Diktatur zu suchen.
MarkderSachse 2 years ago
es stimmt, die suche wird erfolglos sein, insbesondere, wenn man blutspuren hinterlässt.
amyria3 2 years ago
obwohl ein kommunist an sich nicht zwangsläufig ein arschloch ist.
Aber ein Leninist-Stalinist ist entweder völliger Idiot oder ein Arschloch
amyria3 2 years ago
kann mir jemand sagen wie das lied heisst?
tarik92one 2 years ago
kann mir jemand sagen wie das lied heisst?
tarik92one 2 years ago
was is das für ein lied
tarik92one 2 years ago
Forever RAF!
DrGallax 2 years ago 6
Forever MORD, GEHEIMDIENSTE und ARBEITSLAGER!
YEEEH!!!
amyria3 2 years ago
Die Sau ist TOT JUHUUUUUUU
ofdaiunsst4 2 years ago
RAF, Heros of the Fatherland!!!!
lunafringe10 2 years ago
Working Class Hero
LONG LIVE TO RAF ARMY!
saveyoursoul1 2 years ago
Glory for German Heroes !
jancsipl 2 years ago 17
Ulrike Meinhof non riesco a smettere di pensarti spero solo che esista il paradiso dove potremo incontrarci ed io avro la possibilita di corteggiarti e se' saro' fortunato amarti per sempre riposa in pace mio infinito amore
bandleriano 2 years ago 14
if youre not a communist, pis off
CommunistNewZealand 2 years ago
HORST MAHLER IS A TRAITOR!
BOLSHEVIXTREME 2 years ago
that's correct Comrade, he is.
But he even defended members of the RAF at one stage. Should he be in this vid for what he contributed to RAF or not? Because, it is undeniable, that, at that time, he did indeed assist them
CommunistNewZealand 2 years ago
that is true
BOLSHEVIXTREME 2 years ago
Dear dear Bolshevist-Lover!
Please tell me one:
the father of my grandmother, a communist also, was sent to a labour camp.
You seem to admire the bolshewist party, althought you probably know, that lenin was the innovator of such nice places, where you could easily beg out, without being found guilty of somethig.
I want You stand here looking in my face and explain to me, what kind of freedom the modern fans of totalitarian stat promice to me.
amyria3 2 years ago
what the hell are you about?
Why was your grandfather sent there?
'lenin was the innovator of such nice places, where you could easily beg out, without being found guilty of somethig.'
That sounds like Guantanamo bay? Provide more information for your assertions. You cite not one authority.
totalitarian stat?? lol you live under one now, it's called capitalism. Try to change it, even by election, and see what happens to you
CommunistNewZealand 2 years ago
lol, this comment ,defending Horst Mahler, proves how close fascists and communists are in the end. they are interchangeable, totalitarian ideologies.
kamill10 2 years ago
in your ignorance you obviously misunderstood the comment. It is your sick capitalism that hops into bed with fascism
CommunistNewZealand 2 years ago
and what happens?
I can criticize this state as much as I want and nothing bad happens to me. Wat a privilege.
Why was he? For nothing, he did nothing, exactly as the majority of 20 Millions russions repressed during Stalins regime.
amyria3 2 years ago
how melodramatic lol, did you think you would be sent to a siberian gulag? lol. Well... (don't give us ideas lol)
'20 Millions russions repressed during Stalins regime. '
Did you see the Stalin vid?
And how is Guantanamo Bay going these days?
CommunistNewZealand 2 years ago
they are not close they are opposites, fascist nazi scum are the eternal enemy of all Communists
The manifesto mahler penned whilst in prison was rejected by the RAF.
If anything is to be equated with fascism it's this pig system of capitalism and it's depraved form of distorted social Darwinism, no doubt you libertarians enjoy it\s sadistic edge though ay?
CommunistNewZealand 2 years ago
i am a member of a human right organisation and i do it cause i beleave in equal right for every one, i beleave in humanity.
and it doesn't any difference to me, either an american president violents rights of people or a sadist calling himself communist, like lenin or stalin. Both is bad enough. And eben if i sypathize with socialist ideas and negative every kind of nationalism, I will never accept a murderer on the top of a state.
amyria3 2 years ago
I would like, however, to observe, that Guantanomo and such kind of prisons originate out of a war, in which the USA face - even if the gevernment is responsible to it - a frightening ennemy.
Stalin acted only to save his own potency
amyria3 2 years ago
your western society is responsible for countless atrocities (here'a another one "Wounded Knee" slaughter-google it)
The statistics from the west regarding the Stalinist era are incorrect. See RedNick's vids on Stalin and the one CommNz made
CommunistNewZealand 2 years ago
I speak about the majority of russian historians
amyria3 2 years ago
Mixing up Fascism and National-Socialism is a basic error that you inherited from your Red God Stalin.
How about a lecture of Ludwig von Mises' "Die Gemeinwirtschaft"?
Would fix your distorted picture of reality a good bit.
Skullchaser08 1 year ago
@Skullchaser08 no one needs you to cite your academic bullshit in support of your twisted fascist beliefs. There are countless articles written about numerous topics, of course contradictions will arise. Have you got a bourgeois education, you need to attend a compulsory Communist re-education camp in Vietnam
CommunistNewZealand 1 year ago
Mindless fanatic.
You are lost to logic, to reason and to humanity as a whole.
You live in the wrong time, you'd be a much better fit among Stalins terror brigades.
To dumb to ask questions, to much a coward to disobey your murderous orders and enough of a sadist to enjoy your work.
You are nothing but filth on the shoes of humanity.
Skullchaser08 1 year ago
@Skullchaser08 it will came back to bite you, the Red Cells never die
CommunistNewZealand 1 year ago
LOLOLOL!!! :D :D :D
Skullchaser08 1 year ago
@Skullchaser08 Da die meisten sich ja nicht um die Geschichte, wie sie passiert ist, interessieren, oder sonst wie sich in dem Thema belesen möchten, hier wenige wichtige Dokumentarfilme über das, wofür die RAF stand und wofür sich Terroristen wie Klar eingesetzt haben (Diese Filme sind Dokumentarfilme und beruhen auf Fakten, die historisch belegbar sind):
- watch?v=kUxcOqWMviw
- watch?v=COOQrHk7F3U&feature=related
- watch?v=sDBec4HdWfk&feature=related
- watch?v=2es9HnqFxNA
shanghaikidx 1 year ago 40
@shanghaikidx dumme antikommunistische Propaganda der billigsten Sorte. Skrupellose Lügen, weil man weiß dass sich keiner die Mühe macht zu prüfen.
edgar0001 1 year ago
@edgar0001
Ach, tatsächlich??
Spinner, du kannst gerne TATSACHEN und FAKTEN präsentieren, die der angeblichen Propaganda widersprechen.
Spinner, es handelt sich hier (leider) um HISTORISCHE FAKTEN, die wissenschaftlich belegbar und erfasst sind.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@edgar0001
Spinner, nur weil man HISTORISCHE FAKTEN; ARGUMENTE und LOGIK gegen deinen beschissenen Kommunismus hervorbringt, ist das schon lange keine Propaganda. Propaganda ist ein Instrumentarium totalitärer kommunistischer Staaten.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@Skullchaser08 No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
shanghaikidx 1 year ago 40
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@shanghaikidx All generalisations are false so is this one. As Politics is a generalisation of its own all Politics are false. Both the left and the right. And in the middle is an endless discussion of agreements no-one gets better too.
Can you name a country were Politics do work actually? Beyond election day that is.
viowave 1 year ago
@viowave @viowave
Dipshit, yes this politics is called liberalism and capitalism. The government does not solve any problems. The govrnment is the problem.
"All generalisations are false so is this one."
Generally, I would say that you are right that not all generalizations are correct but there is NO example of communism that did NOT end in a complete disaster. That people have to live a dictatorship and in poverty in communist is not only clear in practice, but foremost in theory.
TheVladtheimpaler 1 year ago 35
It's agree-able. I would say turn it arround and you have the same outcome. There is NO example of Capitalism that did NOT end in a complete disaster: Economy Crisis. That people have to live a dictatorship by banks and industrials , stockholders and in poverty of the free market. (haves and don't haves) and slavery to work and buy . Capitalism is not only clear in practice, but foremost in theory. The quest for bigger better more...till it reach its limits and you got a empty balloon.
viowave 1 year ago
@viowave
"NO example of Capitalism that did NOT end in a complete disaster:"
Are you kidding??? USA; Western Europe, Japan, now China that has undergone CAPITALISTIC reforms and has grown its GDP 49 times since 1980!! Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, Chile, ALL countries that applied CAPITALISTIC measures ie. free market, private property, competition, individual rights and freedom.
Really, what kind of drugs are you taking. Bcs all u said is against the FACTS and EMPIRICS and THEORY!
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@shanghaikidx My Drugs : Ferdinand Lassalle. Not Marx, Engels or Lenin. I believe in the socialism but only national. Education, Healthcare (medicines, hospitals, doctors), Railways, Mailmarket, Energy, Electricity, Water, Basic (Agricultural) Food , Heavy Industry or other High Value, Important Industry must be in propety of the State. Other industry can be private property. Workers must earn fair prices: no currency with cheap countries or enemy take overs in the important industry.
viowave 1 year ago
@viowave Quite honestly, I did not fully understand what you said, because I cant fully understand your English. Deutsch can be preferred, if you want.
Ich sehe aber, dass du ein ernsthaftes Argument führst, jenseits der üblichen linken ignoranten und dummen Propaganda.
Ich weiss jetzt nicht, was du also Sozialismus bezeichnest. Du scheinst der Auffassung zu sein, dass es darum geht, die Wirtschaft staatlich zu organisieren. Das ist nur teilweise richtig.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@viowave
Hinsichtlich Privatisierung oder nicht, kann ich nur sagen, dass man dies vollkommen ideologie-frei diskutieren muss. Im Endeffet kommt es auf den Nutzen und Nachteile ALLER beteiligten Gruppen an, dh. MItarbeiter aber auch Kunden, Anteilshaber, Lieferanten, Umwelt, etc. Obwohl ich ein Vertrerter des freien Marktes bin stimme ich auch nicht jeder Privatisierung zu.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@viowave
Ich verstehe, dass du bei der Post arbeitest und von einer Kündigung betroffen bist/bzw. dir eine droht. Ja, das ist ein Problem und ich stehe zum Grundsatz, dass man von seiner Arbeit LEBEN können soll. Tarfiverträge werden seit der Privatisierung der Post ausgehebelt, was ich auch nicht richtig finde.
Die Privatisierung der Post als Ganzes möchte ich jedoch dennoch verteidigen, da sie die Post in einen modernen Dienstleistungsbetrieb umgewandelt hat.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@viowave DIe Frage, ob Privatisierung oder nicht, kann man jedoch nicht an den Grenzen eines Landes beschränkt sehen. Man muss sich - ob man will oder nicht - auf kurze oder lange Sicht mit der Tatsache auseionander setzen, dass andere Länder - eben wie Polen - ein anderes Lohngefüge haben. Alles andere wäre schädlich ignorant.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@shanghaikidx Your Capitalism is that a dutch pig is imported into Italy, stay there the last three months of his miserable life. Slaughtered and is now called an italian pig and if in the region of Parma. It can be called parma ham, which we import at a much higher price. It is that we sell our Dutch cows and import Argentine meat, because it is cheaper. Due Privatising the Electricity market the cost aren't cheaper - and the mailfunction of the net is much higher.
viowave 1 year ago
@viowave
Das HErumgeschiebe von Gütern wie Schweinen von Holland nach Italien hin und zurück finde ich auch absurd. Letztendlich entscheidet jedoch der informierte Kunde darüber, ob diese Absurdität unterstützenswert ist oder nicht. Da muss man sich selber an die Nase fassen. Eine Salami oder Wurst könnte man ja bspw. auch beim Bauern in der Region kaufen.
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@shanghaikidx Besides as a full-time mailman who gets loan on a monthbase: 37 hours á week against an hour-pay. I am too expensive since the concurrency arrived who pay their employes a price per letter or pakket.
So our company -thanks to the free market - need to reorganize again and again to become cheaper. With the result that I am unemployed in about 2 years. I am about to be replaced by Polish people, school children or housewives who accept to low wage. But so are the supermarketworkers
viowave 1 year ago
@viowave "Besides as a full-time mailman who gets loan on a monthbase: 37 hours á week against an hour-pay"
Das habe ich nicht verstanden. Was meinst du damit? Das ein standardmäßiger Tarifverträge mit festen Arbeitszeiten in einen flexiblen Arbeitsvertrag mit variabler Stundenanzahl umgewandelt wird?
shanghaikidx 1 year ago
@TheVladtheimpaler Communism hasn't been created yet.
stureremil1942 7 months ago
@stureremil1942 test
songunactivist 7 months ago
@songunactivist What test?
stureremil1942 7 months ago
@stureremil1942
Dipshit, communism as you might phantasize has perhaps not been created yet, because this is IMPOSSIBLE. Yet this does not matter, since the COMMUNIST SHITHOLES mankind had to witness so far are the EXACT, DIRECT and LOGIC consequences of putting communist goals into practice.
If you think differently, feel free to explain how communism can be realised in FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY and how it shall lead to PROSPERITY.
But we both know you wont resp. cant!
songunactivist 7 months ago
@songunactivist Communism is possible. Before communism is socialist level.
stureremil1942 7 months ago
@stureremil1942
" Communism is possible"
Hahahahahahahahah ... yeah, we have seen that how "possible" communism is. It ALWAYS led, leads and will lead to DICTATORSHIPS, DEATH, MURDER, HUNGER, POVERTY and ecological DISASTER.
"Before communism is socialist level."
Ah, really, so it took 80 years of SOCIALIST NIGHTMARES To find out that communism is not possible?=?
I knew you wouldnt be able to answer how communism can be realised in FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY and how it shall lead to PROSPERITY
songunactivist 7 months ago
@songunactivist Dictatorship of proletariat. Death, murder, hunger, poverty and ecological disaster that all is product of west imperialism in third world. Communism is possible, but there is class struggle in socialism. Battle between revolution and reaction. Communism is realised in socialism what is absolute freedom and democracy. This is prosperity for masses of workers and peasants who are today exploited in third world by imperialism.
stureremil1942 7 months ago
@stureremil1942
"Communism is possible,"
Dipshit, only that it was NOT possible ALWAYS when communists tried it out, in 100 % of the cases. Neither do THEORETICAL ARGUMENTS exist that would foresee that communism is possible in a FREE system that woudl create PROSPERITY.
Next patient please!!
songunactivist 7 months ago
@songunactivist Visit llco . org
stureremil1942 7 months ago
@stureremil1942
Only a dead communist is a good communist
hollebKN 3 weeks ago
@hollebKN After that I stabbed you in eye!
stureremil1942 3 weeks ago
@shanghaikidx Your comment is bullshit because you call Fascism communism. Fascism is indeed a rotten shithole but Communism is the opposite of a government. How then do you criticize communism, only in ignorance.
relaxingmusic101 9 months ago
@shanghaikidx You are blaming communism and as I understand you are even unaware of basic concepts about it. So just tell me what capitalism has given to world? Most of the countries today are ruled by capitalistic ideology. Except Europe, USA and a few others most of them are in poverty and war. We are living in a world, which rich gets richer and poor gets poorer. many civilians die in wars coused by capitalists for benefıts of mega companies in every continent.
ELSHADAZERI 3 months ago
na na na diggler
dein 88 war auch nicht gerade ohne fehl und tadel!
ondiras 3 years ago 27
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scheiss auf euch kommis!!!!
ihr habt doch die ddr gehabt und nichts erreicht. nur ein volk geteilt und dann noch drauf geschossen. scheiss auf euch!
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diggler88x 3 years ago
Die DDR hatte mit dem Kommunismus in etwa soviel zu tun wie du mit Schulbildung.
Mehr Schein als Sein.
Wholecar77 2 years ago
danke dir komrade
Guevaristas 3 years ago 29
good video
guevaraernesto68 3 years ago 24