What's the Problem with Universal Health Care?

[Cosmo1093]

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Regardless, the differences between life expectancy rates of the US and other developed nations with universal healthcare systems is more attributed to lifestyle choices and other factors outside of medicine or the healthcare system.

[Malafede122112]

@Cosmo1093 The idea was that people were afraid of communism. Sort of a joke.

But back then I thought that universal health care was what Obama was after.

So, it turns out the joke is on me.

But no one has said any thing about the arrangement of The International. I tried to make is sound sneaky.

[Cosmo1093]

@Malafede122112 Well, with the "reform" we go, now it's just going to be the top 1-2% subsidizing the public option, which is inherently socialism anyway.. I'd say that universal healthcare was what Obama was truly after, but he couldn't even get that with his Democrat majority, so he went for the next best thing, in his opinion anyway.

[Cosmo1093]

Haven't checked the life expectancies for the other countries, but once you factor out the higher murder and (fatal) car accident rates in the US, the life expectancy between the US and Canada are damn near equal... Granted, it won't stay that way for very long given the fact that 1/3+ of Americans are now obese..and that this generation of children have shorter life expectancies than their parents as a result of the obesity (or the causes/results of obesity).

[Iisdabest889]

So... universal healthcare+Longer life expectancy = INSTANT CONNECTION.

I'm not convinced sorry, also note that they also have different populations, different diets, etc...

[Malafede122112]

@Iisdabest889 I wouldn't say that either. Many countries with universal healthcare have a shorter life expectancy. I just made the point that your not more likely to die if there is universal health care.

I think that the health care for the people with money is as good in America as you are going to get. But the people with money, who control things here, don't want no commie health care, where a poor person has as good a chance of getting better as they do.

[Iisdabest889]

@Malafede122112 I agree to whichever system suits best. I

[juxtn]

It is funny that they show the German flag, plus a few others that honestly can't be called government run health systems. German and Belgium healthcare systems, for example, are financed via private insurance companies. A higher percentage in fact when contrasted with our U.S. system. Private plans cover everyone and they can't drop you when you get sick. Plus all the different companies collaborate with each other to keep and administrative waste down with commonly used billing practices.

[Malafede122112]

@juxtn The video says Universal Health care. Germany, according to most sources, is the first country to have Universal Health care, dating back to von Bismark's Health Insurance Bill of1883. I'm not sure what you are arguing, but according to The World Health Organization, Germany's Health care system was 77% government funded and 23% privatly funded as of 2004.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

The United States basically pays for Israels healthcare but they screw their own citizens. Makes sense don't it?

[Malafede122112]

Oh. Isreal is different than other countries fucking there own citizens?

Why shouldn;t they fuck too?

The United States pays for all kinds of bullshit, all over the world. Bullshit that doesn't do me,Or You, any good. Why? I guess bowing isn't enough.

But, plenty of folks are getting fucked here. Maybe you could be our champion, rather than worry about who is getting fucked in Isreal.

[xxdiogenescynicxx]

I think we can worry about both, it is important to know where tax payers money is going.

[b1gr1g]

These countries also pay the highest amount of taxes..Especially Scandinavia.

[Malafede122112]

That is true. But last year my tax dollars went to banks and occupying countries. Health sounds better.

Have you heard about a new type of tax. I didn't catch what it was, but the news(?) people on CNN were making out like it wasn't good.

[ty13rv]

nice and to the point

[brotherturtle]

well done

[STEEEVVYZ]

bravo!!!