millions of lipos are incident free inside cell phones and laptops. It's not the chemistry, it's the lack of safety features (overvoltage / undervoltage protection) the thirst for very high charge rates and the lack of a hard plastic / metal enclosure that makes them more dangerous. So the user has to provide those protections. Lipo's get slow even from sitting around due to a slow increase in internal resistance. Lipos that are old will get hotter at high charge rates. This is also a risk.
@purplenoise2002 Cell phones and laptops use Li-Ion aka LiFePO4 batteries. Less volatile chemistry. The Polymer in a LiPo battery is a longchain molecule, much like petroleum products. Longchain molecules are extremely volatile, but also more dangerous. The Li-Ion batteries in cell phones and laptops are still sensitive to overcharging and overdischarging, but less likely to combust and cause damage to the surrounding equipment. To verify this, check the voltage of your battery.
@FourDollaRacing Really? It's been cell phone and laptop batteries that have a history of catching fire or "exploding" and injuring users -- many of them before lithium polymer was common. Many newer laptops do use lithium polymer (which is the newer technology), as does the Chevrolet Volt (most other hybrid and electric cars on the current market use lithium-ion, aka LiFePO4 or lithium ferro-phosphate).
@SilntObsvr Yes, the stated nominal voltage of a battery pack will verify the cells chemistry: 1.2v for NiMH and NiCad, 1.5v for Alkaline, 3.3v-3.6v for A123 or LiFe, and 3.7v for LiPo. For example my laptop battery states 10.8v, (10.8volts/3cells=3.6volts) so I know it's not a LiPo pack. But, you are correct. Lithium-Ion can mean alot of things, as the technology improves and disproves. I'm from the old school: my hybrid cycles 120 D-sized NiMH cells, wired in series, at 144 volts.
I would recommend a LiPo charger with a LiPo battery.
Even a bottle of beer can be dangerous if you place it in your oven at 220 degrees celcius. So any kind of abuse is not to be blamed on the product. Only that they are not fool proof. Two leads can fool people into thinking this is just like hooking up their regular Pb or NiMh cells. So abusing the battery to have it explode can serve a purpose to wake people up on the potential of what improper handling can do.
Hi there, I have a few people coming over and I want to show them how dangerous these batteries are and of course everyone wants to see poof/boom, etc. Can I use a 12v 15Amp car charger (lead acid) to make it go BOOM or should I use the car charger on 12v 2 amp trickle? which is better? Thanks.
how does the bag work? Is there a chemical inside that tries to put out the fire leaving only smoke? Does this mean that once a battery has been smoked in a lipo bag, the bag can't be used again?
Hey, here's a good idea. Why not just charge the Lipo at the correct voltage with a Lipo charger. I have used them for 5 years, charge them in the house, the car, wherever and I don't need a silly bag to put them in and why??? Because I have a brain and am not sone dumbass idiot that cant operate a battery charger.
@phoebelala I'd driven a car for 15 years before someone cut me off and I ended up in the ditch with a broken neck at no fault of my own. By your logic I shouldn't have needed to wear the seatbelt that saved my life, since nothing bad had happened in the past. Yes, used properly lipos are safe but where's the harm in being proactive about safety? Your anger at a suggestion to use a safety product is misguided at best, ignorant and immature at worst. (lol, you're not "sone dumbass"....douche)
@s9lecomp Actually, you can't argue with statistics when it comes to people that wear seatbelts all their lives, yet never get an accident. So the argument pretty much goes both ways.
Its just as ignorant to think you'll inevitably will get in an accident, regardless of whether or not its your own fault. ;-)
Then again, when a lipo burns up your house, I'd bet you'd loved to have spent a few bucks on a safe bag, which is obviously all there's to it. Its not about chance, its about bad luck.
firstly ur been big headed and secondly wot if u have a faulty lipo that catches fire to uer house im pretty sure that one day everyone will laugh wen that happens no stop been cool cos u dont use lipo safe bags
@phoebelala Bad advice. I suggest to all new RC hobbyist, do some research, lipo fires are not just because of improper charging. Batteries can be damaged, chargers can malfunction, wires can short... use care and common sense and be prepared just in case, or you can just be a jack ass like this guy.
@alteredinstruments How dare you call me a Jack Ass! I think you are a very rude man! I am a thrusting young excecutive and won't tolerate this sort of attack. Now you take it back or I will come over there and make you eat slugs!
Lipo sack indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh how we laughed. :-O
I just saw a 22.2v lipo explode the other day, WITH a storage bag like this. All the cells went up in 1 bang, causing a large ball of fire, and enough smoke to fill almost the entire floor, causing security to panic. Luckily, no one was hurt. Be careful with lipos.
Don't they have a tendency to get warm when they start overcharging? Most manufacturers put all those warnings on the battery for a reason. I'll admit, it can happen if you plug it in and let it sit there for quite a bit longer than it would take to actually charge the battery, and shit does happen, but for the most part, it's kinda difficult to overcharge it to the point of such spectacular pyrotechnics.
5 people are pyromaniacs.
grabyourgat 2 weeks ago
it looks like it smokes more in the bag then what it does without it
brushlessmicrot 1 month ago
millions of lipos are incident free inside cell phones and laptops. It's not the chemistry, it's the lack of safety features (overvoltage / undervoltage protection) the thirst for very high charge rates and the lack of a hard plastic / metal enclosure that makes them more dangerous. So the user has to provide those protections. Lipo's get slow even from sitting around due to a slow increase in internal resistance. Lipos that are old will get hotter at high charge rates. This is also a risk.
purplenoise2002 5 months ago
@purplenoise2002 Cell phones and laptops use Li-Ion aka LiFePO4 batteries. Less volatile chemistry. The Polymer in a LiPo battery is a longchain molecule, much like petroleum products. Longchain molecules are extremely volatile, but also more dangerous. The Li-Ion batteries in cell phones and laptops are still sensitive to overcharging and overdischarging, but less likely to combust and cause damage to the surrounding equipment. To verify this, check the voltage of your battery.
FourDollaRacing 1 month ago
@FourDollaRacing Really? It's been cell phone and laptop batteries that have a history of catching fire or "exploding" and injuring users -- many of them before lithium polymer was common. Many newer laptops do use lithium polymer (which is the newer technology), as does the Chevrolet Volt (most other hybrid and electric cars on the current market use lithium-ion, aka LiFePO4 or lithium ferro-phosphate).
SilntObsvr 1 month ago
@SilntObsvr Yes, the stated nominal voltage of a battery pack will verify the cells chemistry: 1.2v for NiMH and NiCad, 1.5v for Alkaline, 3.3v-3.6v for A123 or LiFe, and 3.7v for LiPo. For example my laptop battery states 10.8v, (10.8volts/3cells=3.6volts) so I know it's not a LiPo pack. But, you are correct. Lithium-Ion can mean alot of things, as the technology improves and disproves. I'm from the old school: my hybrid cycles 120 D-sized NiMH cells, wired in series, at 144 volts.
FourDollaRacing 1 month ago
y do people always test with low voltage low mAh batteries???
timgaylehughes 5 months ago
Why would anyone vote dislike ?
very well done just show how things can go bad !!
boshalot 9 months ago
@boshalot
They are probably dyslexics, don't know the meaning of the two thumbs. :-D
Take care with those things. Have seen it happen. No damage, except a dead battery.
sablatnic 3 months ago
Either way,uhh if it doesnt flame up your house since its in the bag,its INDOORS... do u really wana breathe in toxic burning lithium metal?.....
demonsparkx 11 months ago
@demonsparkx Uhh, at least it didn't burn down your house?
krazykarl9z2 10 months ago
@krazykarl9z2 LOL hmm burn to death and or loose house in a fire... ORR toxic metal posioning? Damn u make it so hard to choose. -_-
demonsparkx 10 months ago
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does it destroy the bag ???
traxxasstampede71km 11 months ago
@alteredinstruments yeah, well i like turtles
MintberryCrunchify 1 year ago 2
Wow that's a nice way to burn your house
renekenshin6573 1 year ago
I would recommend a LiPo charger with a LiPo battery.
Even a bottle of beer can be dangerous if you place it in your oven at 220 degrees celcius. So any kind of abuse is not to be blamed on the product. Only that they are not fool proof. Two leads can fool people into thinking this is just like hooking up their regular Pb or NiMh cells. So abusing the battery to have it explode can serve a purpose to wake people up on the potential of what improper handling can do.
gunnarMyTube 1 year ago
Hi there, I have a few people coming over and I want to show them how dangerous these batteries are and of course everyone wants to see poof/boom, etc. Can I use a 12v 15Amp car charger (lead acid) to make it go BOOM or should I use the car charger on 12v 2 amp trickle? which is better? Thanks.
BigCatsWildlife 1 year ago
@BigCatsWildlife 15 amp
Thebadbeaver9 9 months ago
lithium polimere is toxic unless burned hot
that bag makes it a toxic bomb !
waterchildtera 1 year ago
@waterchildtera What is the alternative? death by breathing the toxic fumes of your furniture?
purplenoise2002 5 months ago
So you die from the fumes instead.
QuattroStig 1 year ago
Lucky multimeter.
yorky1230 1 year ago 22
You should call this the idiot bag. Because only idiots will blast lipos enough they will go off in an unimpressive fart of fire.
SvenOkonomi 1 year ago
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rhhobby 1 year ago
thats the only reason y i dont wanna get a lipo
zerofan107 1 year ago
how does the bag work? Is there a chemical inside that tries to put out the fire leaving only smoke? Does this mean that once a battery has been smoked in a lipo bag, the bag can't be used again?
W01fman1487 2 years ago
@W01fman1487 yes, just like a condom. LOL.
beneehall 1 year ago
Hey, here's a good idea. Why not just charge the Lipo at the correct voltage with a Lipo charger. I have used them for 5 years, charge them in the house, the car, wherever and I don't need a silly bag to put them in and why??? Because I have a brain and am not sone dumbass idiot that cant operate a battery charger.
phoebelala 2 years ago
@phoebelala I'd driven a car for 15 years before someone cut me off and I ended up in the ditch with a broken neck at no fault of my own. By your logic I shouldn't have needed to wear the seatbelt that saved my life, since nothing bad had happened in the past. Yes, used properly lipos are safe but where's the harm in being proactive about safety? Your anger at a suggestion to use a safety product is misguided at best, ignorant and immature at worst. (lol, you're not "sone dumbass"....douche)
s9lecomp 1 year ago
@s9lecomp
soooo
you broke your neck,and was lucky enough not to break your spinal cord ...
Well,to be safe ,lets be Christan or Protestant
y512516 1 year ago
@s9lecomp Actually, you can't argue with statistics when it comes to people that wear seatbelts all their lives, yet never get an accident. So the argument pretty much goes both ways.
Its just as ignorant to think you'll inevitably will get in an accident, regardless of whether or not its your own fault. ;-)
Then again, when a lipo burns up your house, I'd bet you'd loved to have spent a few bucks on a safe bag, which is obviously all there's to it. Its not about chance, its about bad luck.
PHeMoX 1 year ago
firstly ur been big headed and secondly wot if u have a faulty lipo that catches fire to uer house im pretty sure that one day everyone will laugh wen that happens no stop been cool cos u dont use lipo safe bags
FHProuductions1 1 year ago
@phoebelala Bad advice. I suggest to all new RC hobbyist, do some research, lipo fires are not just because of improper charging. Batteries can be damaged, chargers can malfunction, wires can short... use care and common sense and be prepared just in case, or you can just be a jack ass like this guy.
alteredinstruments 1 year ago
@alteredinstruments How dare you call me a Jack Ass! I think you are a very rude man! I am a thrusting young excecutive and won't tolerate this sort of attack. Now you take it back or I will come over there and make you eat slugs!
Lipo sack indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!! oh how we laughed. :-O
phoebelala 1 year ago
@phoebelala I like slugs.
alteredinstruments 1 year ago 7
@alteredinstruments they make great pets!
waterchildtera 1 year ago
@phoebelala bravo chap..bravo!
nighthawk0077 1 year ago
im debatin whether to get a lipo battery but i dont want it to well blow up everyone says it always happens how often does it actually happen
lookersd 2 years ago
it's a nice bag but if you overcharge this thing in this back... yes you can smeel the smoke in the full house
christiaan12nl 2 years ago
i loaded a lipo in a car lipo=fire car=fire i =fire
simon123as 2 years ago
I just saw a 22.2v lipo explode the other day, WITH a storage bag like this. All the cells went up in 1 bang, causing a large ball of fire, and enough smoke to fill almost the entire floor, causing security to panic. Luckily, no one was hurt. Be careful with lipos.
user123 2 years ago
Kinda hard to overcharge a lipo...
sheik480 2 years ago
@sheik480 if u dont have a charger that tells u its charged then it is actually very easy
lookersd 2 years ago
Don't they have a tendency to get warm when they start overcharging? Most manufacturers put all those warnings on the battery for a reason. I'll admit, it can happen if you plug it in and let it sit there for quite a bit longer than it would take to actually charge the battery, and shit does happen, but for the most part, it's kinda difficult to overcharge it to the point of such spectacular pyrotechnics.
sheik480 2 years ago
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I tried this at home and my house burnt down
dardull 2 years ago
Ur such an amazing liar
speedstakerguy 2 years ago
WOW.. that is a great bag I might have to get one, but then again.. be careful
legendarybod 3 years ago
thats one hot battery =p
santa898 3 years ago